>Recently Subala wrote: > >> System: >> Mac G4/500 AGP >> os9.0.2 >> Unitor8 MkII >> LAMG 4.1.2/G4 version >> Using mac's a/v inputs, no sound card yet. >> >> I'm in the learning phase, still and I'm pulling my (little bit of) >> hair out. I don't yet have a audio I/O card, but I'm trying to learn >> the audio portion of LAM while I work with the midi stuff. I can't >> get the audio from my system into LAM. I've tried recording from cd >> (internal drive) and tape (via the a/v input), but no matter what I >> do, it won't pass into LAM and it doesn't register on the meters in >> the environment or arrangement screens. > >Set the input to external microphone before opening logic. Afaik you may not >record from the CD input but its anyway better to grab audio directly by >using the "open movie", selecting the audio CD track and saving it to disk >as aiff file. There is a options button just before you save that allows you >to save only parts of the track, very useful for sampling CDs. > >> ......... > >> Since I'm able to set up and record on my other system, I'm almost >> certain I'm setting everything in LAM properly, but maybe I'm missing >> something? Is this a bug in os9/Sound Manager/LAMG? Anything else I >> can try? > >Set Logic to Auto Input Monitor, arm a track and you will be able to hear >what comes in on the mini-jack Mac input. > > >cu klo Thanks Klaus, This indeed did the trick. I guess it's an os9 thing and the new Sound Manager control panel. The older os doesn't have an external mic and an line input setting. Bias Peak requires the line input, where as LAM seems to require the mic input. Unfortunately this makes it impossible to use both programs simultaniously for this function. Seems as though once either of them boots that it "takes control" of all the audio input settings, preventing you from switching them without closing out the program. The other thing I've noticed is that by using the ext mic setting for LAM, the audio is VERY low. Much too low for a noise free recording. The line input setting seems to provide the expected levels (when compared to my tape's output meters). I don't know why this is. Do you think it's due to my input plug? I know the inputs on the older macs used a different length plug to access different internal connections to the motherboard via the same input jack. This is how they know when you're using a mic or a line signal. I would think that the G4 would follow the same convention (I'm using the same cables I use on my 7100 mac), but there's no guarrantee...they seem to have changed everything else in the audio system. Neither Peak or LAM seem to be seemless when working with the new hardware/software a/v system. Peak does record directly from the CD (or any other audio source playing in the mac), but it too is a little buggy in its settings. It takes a bunch of button pressing and trips back and forth between control panles to eventually get it to "recognize" the audio as it passes through the system. Once you get it going it seems to work until you have to change it for another program. It's a drag, but I'm hoping that all of that will be a moot point once I get a real audio I/O card happening. Thanks again, Subala