On 30/05/2006, at 4:26 PM, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > > >>> What do you have on your G4, just out of interest? > > From: "Paul Najar" paulnajar@jaminajar.com > > >> Not fully clear what your asking here. > > I meant what software - what are you serving. Ah I see. OK. It's where the iTunes music collection is stored for the whole house and can be accessed from the laptop either through iTunes sharing or Apple remote Desktop. Same for our iPhoto collection. It's also the central server for my contact database that updates across the network so I can open my dairy or look for a contact on any mac on the network and it will always be up to date. You can also enter new info from any mac and this will update everywhere. I have a internal ATA100 7200 RPM 250GB drive that performs as well over the gigabit network as it does on the mac it's installed on. About 45 - 50 MB per second over the network. Great for daily backups from all the other macs and serving extra bits of EXS library. I was testing network midi and AU Net send & receive in conjunction with AU Lab on the server but the G5 does not ever seem to run out of steam and I think it was you that mentioned that latency seemed to change after a period of time with this stuff. I can also hang extra Firewire drives off the server and then mount them back on the G5 over the GB net and more evenly share bus traffic. I have a Multiface and 2 x UAD-1 cards in the G5 so it's PCI bus is cooked. I currently have one 250GB Library FW drive on the G5 FW 400 port that runs things like VSL, Ivory, BFD and all EXS so I'm in no hurry to place more traffic on this bus so the GB ethernet bus allows easier expansion. I see, but I still don't quite follow why it's advantageous having an > $800 G4 connect to the internet rather than a router that costs > literally 1/20 the price (the router is also a computer, just a much > more basic one with a cheap CPU and none of the surrounding stuff, > of course). Surely there's more to this than just being able to print > from the PowerBook on the wi-fi connection? Yes there is. See above. Also when I got the G5 it was irresistable for me to spend the $30 on the card and $80 on the GB switch to make it all happen. Even though I'm not using this arrangement to full potential the day will come I'm sure. Music production has a habit of expanding to use all available resources I've found. > We happen to have a big article in our current issue about using > several PCs on a network, and in this set-up the server has a RAID > array from which all the other machines on the network stream > samples. You can also use a dedicated machine as a bridge between PCs > and Macs, since FX Teleport (www.fx-max.com), which streams audio and > MIDI across all the PCs, doesn't work on Mac yet. It all gets pretty > involved - although you can (and I do) use some of the ideas rather > than the whole thing. In the full set-up described in the article, > which is really elegant, the server makes sense - although even then > it's not connecting to the internet, a router is. In addition to asking all the things of the server you mention here, getting it to be a router by connecting to the net is not much more to ask of it. And I like you use bits of the big picture setup you describe. Maybe I'll end up becoming a Gigasampler user. It's meant to be the best I've heard many people say. All it would take is for a new movie score job to come in and I would consider it - because I have a machine ready and waiting to dedicate the software to. (Um not sure weather GS runs on Mac???) any way, I think you get the picture. > > Paul wrote: > >> All this happens automatically now Nick. Give me an example of what >> you mean. And just for the record I am certainly no network guy >> myself. I'm just a curious music guy that doesn't mind getting my >> hands dirty occasionally. > > Okay. In my set-up, I have MIDI-Over-LAN (musiclab.com) going from > one G5/Logic machine to a slave G5 and three Windows slaves. Since > moving to a 30" Cinema display, I've also been controlling the slaves > over the network (Remote Desktop) recently - my physical KVM switcher > has been sitting on the floor unused. > > To make that work, each slave machine has to have a fixed IP address; > if you just use DHCP, the IP addresses are liable to change every > time you turn a machine on and off, and you will go fricking nuts > trying to get everything to connect. I also have a color laser > printer and another network printer (an all-in-one); they too need > fixed addresses, especially the laser printer, since I turn it off > when I'm not using it (the noise is unbearable). Plus my daughter's > Mac is on the network so she can share a third printer. (There's > rhyme and reason to why I have all these printers - I'm only slightly > bonkers. :) ) > > That means you have to go in and assign each machine on the network > an IP address manually. Same with the printers - you have to dig > through the cryptic menus and assign them numbers. > > This isn't a huge deal once you understand what's going on, but I > only learned how to do this recently. Without wanting to sound > overly arrogant, I've been working on Macs literally all day long for > the past 20 years and making my living writing about music and > recording technology for about 15 of those years. If I only just > figured this out, I have a massive enough ego to believe that it's > more complicated than it needs to be. :) > > You can use Rendezvous to locate all the machines, but it's not > automatic - especially if you have Macs and Windows and other stuff. > It purports to be automatic, but before setting up my network > correctly I would have to spent ten minutes figuring out why > something wasn't seeing MIDI every time. And I mean every time. > > That's what I mean when I say it should all be automatic. You should > be able to set up networks as easily as you can define your MIDI rig > in Audio MIDI Setup. > > > Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher > Virtual Instruments Magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers > www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com > 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) > 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101 > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until May 31st! > See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Logic Users Group (LUG) - http://logic-users.org > Search the LUG: http://logic-users.org/forums/LUG/search > Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > List Policy: http://logic-users.org/forums/LUG/policy > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Yahoo! 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