Am 20.03.2006 um 23:13 schrieb darealbasoski: > was wondering if there are any Logic users out there who control it > with the Mackie HUI? > So not a protools setup, but strictly Logic? > Is it comparable with using an MCU? Same (or enhanced maybe) > functionality? > Any info on this is welcome! Some time ago I created a sheet where control surfaces can be compared regarding Logic's support. Please format the below table with monospaced font. You can see that the Mackie Control has some features the HUI hasn't and vice versa. Logic Control Surface support comparison "+" means: press simultaneously "," means: additional steps may be required to enter a specific mode. Emagic/Mackie Mackie CM Labs Radikal Function LC/MC HUI Motormix SAC-2k Global functionality Toggle between name and value display NAME/VALUE COMPARE SHIFT+Rotary Selector Master Volume à - - à Master Volume by foot pedal External Control - - - Track name display with number OPTION+NAME/VALUE - - - Split edit (splits up encoders in 2 se- - - - Set parameter to Min/Max OPTION+ OPTION/ ALL+ ALL+ - Modify parameter at higher resolution CMD/ALT+ CMD/ALT/ FINE+ SHIFT+alt/fine - Set parameter to default value V-Select DEFAULT, V-SEL - Encoder Push Flip mode "Duplicate" FLIP SHIFT Rotary Selector Master Select Flip mode "Swap" SHIFT+FLIP - - - Flip mode "Zero" ("Motors off") CONTROL+FLIP - - - Shift parameter assignment by bank Cursor left/right SCROLL </> Channel Strip button Shift parameter assignment by one CMD/ALT+Cursor left/rigCMD/ALT/ FINE+SCROLL SHIFT+</> - Song handling Save Song SAVE SAVE SHIFT+disk Num, Save Save Song asÉ OPTION+SAVE OPTION/ ALL+SAVE - - Revert to saved - - - - Undo UNDO UNDO UNDO Num, Undo Redo SHIFT+UNDO SHIFT/ADD +UNDO - - Open Undo History OPTION+UNDO OPTION/ ALL+UNDO - - Toggle Replace mode REPLACE - - SHIFT+RECORD Toggle Click CLICK - - - Toggle Solo SOLO - - - Solo Lock SHIFT+SOLO - - - Toggle internal/external sync SHIFT+CLICK ON LINE - - Cut CMD/ALT+F1 CUT - - Copy CMD/ALT+F2 COPY - Num, Copy Paste CMD/ALT+F3 PASTE - Num, Paste Clear CMD/ALT+F4 DELETE - - Select All CMD/ALT+F5 - - - Select All Following CMD/ALT+F6 - - - Select Similar Objects CMD/ALT+F7 - - - Select inside locators CMD/ALT+F8 - - - Create new track OPTION+SELECT - - - Create new track with next instrument SHIFT+OPTION+SELECT - - - Select next tool EDIT TOOL - - Select Arrow tool - EDIT TOOL +1 SHIFT+tool, Select- Select Pencil tool - EDIT TOOL +2 SHIFT+tool, Select- Select Rubber tool - EDIT TOOL +3 SHIFT+tool, Select- Select Text Edit tool - EDIT TOOL +4 SHIFT+tool, Select- Select Scissors tool - EDIT TOOL +5 SHIFT+tool, Select- Select Glue tool - EDIT TOOL +6 SHIFT+tool, Select- Select Solo tool - EDIT TOOL +7 SHIFT+tool, Select- Select Mute tool - EDIT TOOL +8 SHIFT+tool, Select- Select Zoom tool - EDIT TOOL +9 - - Alerts Button x V-Select DSP Select Select Encoder Push Cancel Button CANCEL F8/ ESC ESC - Default Button ENTER ENTER ENTER Enter Track View Switch to Mixer View GLOBAL SHIFT/ADD +GROUP SHIFT+bank, SelectSHIFT+Audio Switch to Global View GLOBAL SHIFT/ADD +CREATE - - Switch to Arrange View SHIFT+GLOBAL SHIFT/ADD +SUSPEND SHIFT+bank, SelectSHIFT+MIDI Global View: MIDI tracks MIDI SHIFT/ADD +F1 SHIFT+bank, SelectMIDI Global View: Inputs INPUTS SHIFT/ADD +F2 SHIFT+bank, SelectInput Global View: Audio tracks AUDIO TRACKS SHIFT/ADD +F3 SHIFT+bank, SelectAudio Global View: Audio Instrument tracks INSTRUMENTS SHIFT/ADD +F4 SHIFT+bank, SelectInst Global View: Aux objects AUX SHIFT/ADD +F5 SHIFT+bank, SelectSHIFT+Inst Global View: Busses BUSSES SHIFT/ADD +F6 SHIFT+bank, SelectBus Global View: Outputs + Master OUTPUTS SHIFT/ADD +F7 SHIFT+bank, SelectSHIFT+Input Global View: Folders + other objects - SHIFT/ADD +F7 SHIFT+bank, SelectSHIFT+Bus Multiple object classes in Global Viewà - - - Enter Folder ENTER ENTER - - Leave Folder CANCEL F8/ ESC - - Track Lock (track display indep. From CMD/ALT+NAME/VALUE, V +S- - - Fader Bank Shift Fader Bank by bank BANK < > BANK < > bank, </> 1-8 / 9-16 Shift Fader Bank by one channel CHANNEL < > CHANNEL < > bank, </> 17-24 / 25-32 Shift to Fader Bank 1 SHIFT+MIDI - - - Shift to Fader Bank 2 SHIFT+INPUTS - - - Shift to Fader Bank 3 SHIFT+AUDIO TRACKS - - - Shift to Fader Bank 4 SHIFT+INSTRUMENTS - - - Shift to Fader Bank 5 SHIFT+AUX - - - Shift to Fader Bank 6 SHIFT+BUSSES - - - Shift to Fader Bank 7 SHIFT+OUTPUTS - - - Shift to Fader Bank 8 SHIFT+USER - - - Transport Stop STOP STOP STOP STOP Play PLAY PLAY PLAY PLAY Pause SHIFT+PLAY SHIFT/ADD +PLAY SHIFT+transport, S- Record RECORD RECORD SHIFT+transport, SRECORD Shuttle rewind REWIND REWIND RWD << Shuttle forward F.FWD F.FWD FFWD >> Rewind by one bar - - - - Forward by one bar - - - - Play/Stop by foot switch User Switch A Foot switch 1 - - Drop in/out by foot switch User Switch B Foot switch 2 - - Go to left locator - RTZ SHIFT+locate, SeleSHIFT+From Go to right locator - END SHIFT+locate, SeleSHIFT+To Clock display SMPTE/BEATS F7 à à SMPTE display SMPTE/BEATS F7 - - Jog wheelmodes Move SPL by bar SCRUB SCRUB - Scrub Scrub SCRUB SCRUB - Scrub Shuttle SHIFT+SCRUB SHUTTLE - Scrub Cycle Toggle Cycle CYCLE LOOP SHIFT+locate, SeleSHIFT+PLAY Set left locator to SPL - PRE - From Set right locator to SPL - POST - To Engage Cycle and set left locator to SCYCLE+REWIND - - - Engage Cycle and set right locator to CYCLE+F.FWD - - - Define Cycle locators & enable Cycle CYCLE+Jog Wheel - - - Drop Toggle Drop DROP QUICK PUNCH SHIFT+locate, Sele- Set Drop In locator to SPL - IN - - Set Drop Out locator to SPL - OUT - - Engage Drop and set Drop In locator toDROP+REWIND - - - Engage Drop and set Drop Out locator tDROP+F.FWD - - - Define Drop locators & enable Drop DROP+Jog Wheel - - - Screen Sets / Windows Recall Screensets F1..F7 F2..F6 - 1É9 Toggle Lock Screenset - Toggle Arrange window SHIFT+F1 EDIT WINDOW, Select 1 - Toggle Track Mixer window SHIFT+F2 MIX WINDOW, Select 2 - Toggle Event Editor window SHIFT+F3 CMD/ALT/ FINE+F3 WINDOW, Select 3 - Toggle Score window SHIFT+F4 CMD/ALT/ FINE+F4 WINDOW, Select 4 - Toggle Hyper Edit window SHIFT+F5 CMD/ALT/ FINE+F5 WINDOW, Select 5 - Toggle Matrix Editor window SHIFT+F6 CMD/ALT/ FINE+F6 WINDOW, Select 6 - Toggle Transport window SHIFT+F7 TRANSPORT WINDOW, Select 7 - Toggle Audio window SHIFT+F8 CMD/ALT/ FINE+F8 WINDOW, Select 8 - Toggle Sample Editor window - ALT - - Toggle Audio Pool window - STATUS - - Toggle Marker List window - MEM- LOC SHIFT+locate, Sele- Open System Performance window - - SHIFT+status - Open Automation Settings window - - SHIFT+utility - Close Plug-in window F8 - - - Switch Arrange window to Volume Automa- - - - Switch Arrange window to Pan Automatio- - - - Level Meters Signal indicator à - - - Vertical bar SHIFT+NAME/VALUE à - à Stereo - à - - Horizontal bar SHIFT+NAME/VALUE - - - Off SHIFT+NAME/VALUE - - - Peak hold display - à - - Overload display à à - à Clear overload display CONTROL+NAME/VALUE F1 - - Global track parameters Track parameters channel strip view TRACK - - - Track parameters multi channel view TRACK - à - Choose displayed parameter Cursor left/right - Rotary Encoder - Control Volume with faders à à à à Assign encoders to / (Edit on selected track) Volume TRACK+F1 - - - Pan TRACK+F2 PAN - - Track mode TRACK+F3 - - - Input TRACK+F4 INPUT - - Output TRACK+F5 OUTPUT - - Automation Mode TRACK+F6 (AUTO) SHIFT+mode - Parameter displayed in Arrange windoTRACK+F7 - - - First group track belongs to TRACK+GROUP - SHIFT+group - Toggle Record Ready REC/RDY REC/ RDY record SHIFT+Mute/Solo, Mute/Solo 1É8 Disable Record Ready for all tracks OPTION+REC/RDY REC/RDY ALL - - Toggle Solo of track SOLO SOLO SOLO Mute/Solo, Mute/Solo 1É8 Disable Solo for all tracks OPTION+SOLO OPTION/ ALL+SOLO - - Toggle Mute of track MUTE MUTE MUTE Mute/Solo, Mute/Solo 1É8 Disable Mute for all tracks OPTION+MUTE OPTION/ ALL+MUTE - - Select track SELECT SELECT Select Select 1É8 Set Volume to unity level (0dB) SHIFT+SELECT DEFAULT +SELECT - - Pan/Surround parameters Pan/Surround parameters channel strip PAN/SURROUND PAN - - Pan/Surround parameters multi channel PAN/SURROUND - select Pan Choose displayed parameter Cursor left/right - Rotary Selector - Assign encoders to / (Edit on selected track) Surround angle PAN+F1 (DSP Encoder 1) - - Surround radius PAN+F2 (DSP Encoder 2) - - Surround LFE PAN+F3 (DSP Encoder 3) - - Surround mode PAN+F4 (DSP Encoder 4) - - Angle on encoders, radius on faders PAN+F6 - - - X on encoders, Y on faders PAN+F8 - - - X/Y on joystick - - - - EQ parameters EQ parameters channel strip view EQ - - Eqs EQ parameters multi channel view EQ - - High/HiMid/LowMid/Low Choose displayed parameter Cursor left/right - - - Choose edited band Cursor up/down - Rotary Encoder High/HiMid/LowMid/Low+Encoder 9 Assign encoders to / (Edit on selected track) Frequency EQ+F1 - SHIFT+eff-1 Encoder 9 Gain EQ+F2 - SHIFT+eff-2 High/HiMid/LowMid/Low / Encoder 10 Q Factor EQ+F3 - SHIFT+eff-3 Encoder 11 Bypass EQ+F4 - SHIFT+eff-4 Encoder 12 Toggle Bypass status of selected EQ baSHIFT+MUTE - SHIFT+eff-1 - Frequency on encoders, Gain on faders EQ+F7 - - - Frequency on encoders, Gain on faders EQ+F8 - - - Send parameters Send parameters channel strip view SEND - - - Send parameters multi channel view SEND - - Snd/Ins, Snd/Ins 1É4 Choose displayed parameter Cursor left/right - - - Choose edited Send Cursor up/down SEND AÉ E, SHIFT/ADD+SRotary Encoder Snd/Ins 1É4 Channel strip view 2 (other sorting) SEND+F6 SEND AÉ E, SHIFT/ADD+S- Assign encoders to / (Edit on selected track) Destination SEND+F1 ASSIGN SHIFT+assign (Encoder 9) Level SEND+F2 SEND AÉ E, SHIFT/ADD+SLAST Snd/Ins, Snd/Ins 1É4 / (Encoder 10) Position SEND+F3 - - (Encoder 11) Mute SEND+F4 (DSP Select) - (Encoder 12) Toggle pre/post status of selected senSHIFT+SOLO MUTE, V- SEL pre/post - Toggle Mute status of selected send SHIFT+MUTE MUTE, V- SEL s-mute - Destination on encoders, Level on fadeSEND+F7 - - - Destination on encoders, Level on fadeSEND+F8 - - - Plug-in parameters Plug-in selection channel strip view PLUG+IN INSERT - - Plug-in selection multi channel view PLUG+IN - PLUG-IN Snd/Ins, Snd/Ins 1É4 Choose insert Cursor up/down - Rotary Selector Snd/Ins 1É4+Encoder 9 Choose plug-in, enter plug-in param edV-Select DSP Select Select Inserts/Sends Toggle between Plug-in Assign and Edit- INSERT/ PARAM - - Bypass current insert (Multi Channel VSHIFT+MUTE BYPASS, INSERT fx bypass - Bypass current insert (edited plug-in)- BYPASS SHIFT+bypass - Instrument parameters Instrument selection multi channel vieINSTRUMENT - SHIFT+compare - Instrument parameter editor V-Select - Rotary Selector Instrument Mute instrument SHIFT+MUTE - SHIFT+bypass - Track Automation Set selected track's automation to OffREAD/OFF OFF - - Set selected track's automation to ReaREAD/OFF READ - - Set selected track's automation to TouTOUCH TOUCH - - Set selected track's automation to LatLATCH LATCH - - Set selected track's automation to WriWRITE WRITE - - Set other track's automation to Off READ/OFF+SELECT OFF +AUTO SHIFT+fnctC - Set other track's automation to Read READ/OFF+SELECT READ +AUTO SHIFT+fnctB - Set other track's automation to Touch TOUCH+SELECT TOUCH +AUTO burn - Set other track's automation to Latch LATCH+SELECT LATCH +AUTO SHIFT+fnctA - Set other track's automation to Write WRITE+SELECT WRITE +AUTO write - Set all track automation to Off OPTION+READ/OFF OPTION/ ALL+OFF ALL+SHIFT+fnctC - Set all track automation to Read OPTION+READ/OFF OPTION/ ALL+READ ALL+SHIFT+fnctB - Set all track automation to Touch OPTION+TOUCH OPTION/ ALL+TOUCH ALL+burn - Set all track automation to Latch OPTION+LATCH OPTION/ ALL+LATCH ALL+SHIFT+fnctA - Set all track track's automation to WrOPTION+WRITE OPTION/ ALL+WRITE ALL+write - Toggle Automation of Volume - FADER - - Toggle Automation of Pan - PAN - - Toggle Automation of Plug-in parameter- PLUG IN - - Toggle Automation of Mute - MUTE - - Toggle Automation of Send Level - SEND - - Temporarily display tracks' automation- AUTO - - Markers Go to previous marker MARKER+REWIND - LAST SHIFT+<< Go to next marker MARKER+F.FWD - NEXT SHIFT+>> Go to marker... - . Recall Marker Create Marker without rounding MARKER+F1 - - - Create Marker with rounding MARKER+F2 = SHIFT+STOP/locate,Store Marker Delete Marker MARKER+F3 CLR SHIFT+STOP/locate,SHIFT+Store Marker Display/Go to x first markers 5 9 6- Marker name display with chars 6 0 4- Nudge Set Nudge value to Tick NUDGE+F1 - - - Set Nudge value to Format NUDGE+F2 - - - Set Nudge value to Beat NUDGE+F3 - - - Set Nudge value to Bar NUDGE+F4 - - - Set Nudge value to Frame NUDGE+F1 - - - Set Nudge value to 1/2 Frame NUDGE+F2 - - - Nudge left by nudge value NUDGE+REWIND - - - Nudge right by nudge value NUDGE+F.FWD - - - Track Groups Group editing GROUP GROUP group Group Display of group name 10 characters up to 30 characters up to 30 character9 characters Display of group number 2 digits up to 30 characters up to 30 character- Edit group parameters à (8) à (4) à (8) à (10) Scroll parameter view Cursor left/right SCROLL SHIFT+Bank </> Encoder 11 Previous/next group Cursor up/down INSERT/ PARAM, SCROLL Rotary Encoder Encoder 12 Edit track membership SELECT SELECT SHIFT+group Select 1É8 Create new group SHIFT+GROUP CREATE SHIFT+create - Momentary Group Clutch CONTROL CTRL/ CLUTCH SUSPEND - Toggle Group Clutch - SUSPEND - - Cursor, Zoom, Scrolling Toggle cursor keys between cursor and ZOOM MODE - - Move cursor Cursor keys Cursor keys - Num, 2/3/4/8 Zoom horizontal/vertical Cursor keys Cursor keys - - Change individual Track zoom SHIFT+up/down SHIFT/ADD +up/down - - Reset individual track zoom of selecteSHIFT+left SHIFT/ADD +left - - Reset individual track zoom of all traSHIFT+right SHIFT/ADD +right - - Scroll by page ZOOM+Cursor keys CMD/ALT/ FINE+Cursor k- - Scroll to top/bottom/left/right - OPTION/ ALL+Cursor key- - Beste GrŸ§e - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The above message is my private opinion. It is not an official Apple or Emagic message. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -