On 31/1/06 10:44, "Ian Henderson" <ian@thinkteam.co.za> wrote: > Averaged out year on year, are the WUP fees any more than others are > charging for similar plugins? The Platinum bundle is quite a lot of > plugins - looks like about $60 per year for WUP, on the above > figures, so I guess it's quite a small fee per plugin. > > I was thinking of buying a Rennaissance Maxx package, or perhaps Gold > bundle. The demo Ren EQ and Comp are pretty nice - which Waves > plugins to people find most useful? Well I have the Platinum Bundle and the Musicians Bundle (which I only bought to get doubler as they don't sell it on it's own) Both my versions are current and up to date but assuming (and it's a pretty safe assumption) that Waves will make it so that Mac Intel support is only available to people covered by a WUP, it will cost me just under $400 just to make my current software work on what will then be the current Mac. My WUP expired in Oct 2004 and my versions are still current so look how many great updates Waves released in that time for all the money I could have paid out on WUP! :-( Personally I think it's so wrong that I've been trying like many, to find alternatives that are cheaper to maintain. I now only use the stereo imager and the Ren Channel and I've signed up to the current group buy as I hope that WaveArts trackplug will replace Ren Channel. The once vital L3 has been replaced in my set up by the vastly superior Powercore MD3, the Ren compressors by the UAD analogue emulations. Both of these companies consistently supply updates FREE. As for Apple charging for it's updates, the update that got me all the previously chargeable add ons, bundled in was a complete steal and the one that got me Sculpture, Ultrabeat, Guitar Amp, and the various other plugs was also great value. All you get with Waves is "pay us in case there is an upgrade". So wrong. Now you have to buy an iLok if you want to DEMO their new products! As soon as I find a replacement for Waves Stereo Imager, I will have have no further need of Waves. I just hope I get one before I get an Intel Mac! If you are thinking of buying Waves I strongly advise against it. I've been a customer of theirs for 8 years and have always appreciated the quality of the product, however they are now in market where many companies offer similar products with equal or better quality and no "golden handcuffs". Rant over! Gareth