> Just so I'm clear, what exactly did you remove from your system to > recover stability - just the native instruments DFD extensions (the > file you need to enable DFD capability in NI sample products)? <snip> > PS. For the record, I've also found that Fxpansion BFD beta 9 caused > repeatable Logic crashes (possibly fixed in the new beta 14) and > Hartmann Neuron can crash Logic and cause project wide MIDI transpose > irregularities. Any accounts of other rogue plugins welcome. Hi Jules, Ther are 2 sets of extensions/libraries hat I removed, which in essence disabled the DFD capabilities of the NI plug ins. The first time I saw them, they were listed as 1_4, 1_5, 1_6 etc.etc.etc, so I thought I had a bunch of older ones installed, and that may have been causing conflicts. So I removed them all, and reinsatlled from the latest NI version. It just put back all those old libraries. They are located in home/library/application support/native instruments they are also located in home/library/cfm support I just dragged all of those to a desktop folder. Actually, I'm thinking Logic may have compatibilty problems with almost any Instrument that features disk streaming. George and I were having a conversation on this list about my crash logs. One that stood out was an obvious crash of Synthogy's Ivory, which also features disk streaming. BFD does as well, and that may very well be where some of it's instabilities comes from. seeya, Jon