>>>> Beat detective is way different. Apple loops are kind of like acid >>>> loops, Beat detective is a section of PT that finds the attack >>>> transient of a sound, makes virtual cuts of the take, and allows you to >>>> realign the data. Way more complex... >>> >>> and way more useful for editing live drums! >> >> and Cubase SX has had this for 'way' longer > > I use ReCycle. L6 and up support REX2 files so it's almost like > they're integrated. Using a separate sequencer program to do this sort > of work is overkill. > > It is definitely a feature Logic should have in addition to a refined > sample editor. > In looking at Apple Loops and ReCycle, both do the attack transient detection. With ReCycle, that gets translated into midi triggered audio chunks, whereas with Apple loops, it appears to be time and pitch stretch markers. Remember, Apple loops also work very well with pitch and follow your tempo and chord change markers. They transpose and time stretch simultaneously in real time. That is pretty a sophisticated process, and sounds very transparent. Try doing some chord and tempo changes with one of their stock loops. As for lining up or quantizing off beats in a live track, I don't believe you can do that with apple loops. Beat Detective would be better, and ReCycle works great for that. I've performed some pretty iffy live shaker parts and tambourine parts and repaired them very nicely with ReCycle. James