> shut, this is so weird!, if i open one of my old songs (pre 6.3.3) > they work as they were patched!, but if i try to patch a new one then > it does not work, > > and yes!, if you set the output of the first bus to itself then it > works! Ok ok. yeah that works for me now. Very unusual way of doing I would have thought. ________________________________________ Matt McKenzie-Smith Composer - Arranger PO Box 10395 Sound Design Adelaide 5000 Logic Programmer South Australia +61416 197 883 ________________________________________ ----------