I think all has been said at this point in time. Yes it might be really good to have a 'LAB', however, the for reasons already stated on this list over recent weeks, it quite possibly won't happen. I recently had a look at the Be site and was suprised to see a lack of apps available both in full and beta stages. What if we did have LAB? What about all the third party plugins and the like. ( I am assuming they would all have to be rewritten to support the platform.? Anyway, I think it has all been said and if it aint going to happen then, that is pretty much it, don't you think? Cheers and no offence intended to anyone. ;-) -- Matt McKenzie-Smith c/o Rocket Sound 64 North Terrace Kent Town. 5067 +61 8 8363 1110 +61 8 8363 0494 Fax +61 416 197 883 Mobile Web. http://rocketsound.net