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From: "the covert operative" <the_covert_operative@...>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 at 6:37:52 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Roland V Drums Recording quesiton?
Message #151145
This is a reply to #151120.
<quotes repositioned and trimmed by admin> > Hey everyone, > > I am very very new to the whole MIDI process, just wondering if someone could help me out. > > I have to record with a Roland v drum set later this week, and I want to input the set MIDI so i can separate the snare, kick, toms, etc.. > > > Is this complicated to work with or is there another way to separate each drum? The drummer just got the set and he doesn't't know much about its MIDI capabilities, just looking for a step by step process somewhere. Sorry for all the trouble, you guys are great! > > Thanks! > > Joe For recording the V_Drums... 1st. Plug the midi out of the V-Drums to the in of your computer and vice versa, switch local off under "Global" or "setup" or "utilities"?on the V-drums. Create a midi instrument for the V-Drums in the environment ("new" pulldown menu), select the new instrument, name it, select port and midi out for the V-drums from the parameters on the left and choose a channel on both (GM is 10), then select the instrument on a track on the arrange page. Have him play, No sound? Make sure the port and channel settings are correct on both. Still no sound, check your cabling and port settings again on the instrument in the environment and on the V-drum brain, check your audio outs (you don't need to record them at this stage just monitor them on the desk or directly). If its the first track your laying (i.e. your not simply replacing drums) just get the approximate tempo for the song (tap along to him practicing). Send your drummer the click via the metronome (with audio) while he's recording, if its a replace simply get him to play along to the existing tracks. The V-Drums make it extremely easy to manipulate the drum tracks post recording as you can nudge them around after they've been recorded, swap the sounds and even quantise them aslong as you get the drummer to play to a click in the first place. The hard part is getting the drum to actually play in time to the click... The even harder part is figuring out why so few drummers can actually play to a click ??? Once its recorded you can punch in any replacements, overdub any fills or cymbals to other midi tracks and cut them together with more ease than the audio. By accessing the V-Drum front panel, or an editor such as Sounddiver, you can assign the drums to the sounds you want. You can tune them, tweak them with the modelling parameters inside the v-drum and then use the individual outs to record the audio from them in one pass right at the end to seperate audio channels (or a pass at time but you need to demix your midi drum track). You can even pack the rest of the kit up and just use the module as a sounds source or re-assign the sounds to any other midi sampler, midi drum machine or Soft Sampler like the EXS24 to find that perfect drum mix. Its a god-send. Doesn't get much more powerful than that... Drumagog is often used if you want to replace audio drums, its far more of a headache. You even save your ears with the V-Drums as there's no moving expensive mics around while your drummer deafens you. Amen! -the operative
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