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From: "eftegs" <erik@...>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 at 3:51:21 PM
Subject: Re: [GEN] -Mackie Control and Two 828's vs Yamaha 01V96
Message #143450
This is a reply to #143442.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "mikekiraly1" <MIKEKIRALY1@C...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Currently using Logic 6.1 on a DP800 G4 and a MOTU 828. I would like > to hear opinions and experiences on these two setups for working in > Logic: Either buying a Mackie Control and a second 828 and running > all of my inputs and outputs through the interfaces exclusively or > buying a Yamaha 01V96 and continue mixing externally, albeit with a > considerable amount more convenience then with my Mackie 1604. I can > see advantages to both scenarios. The Mackie Control/828 option seems > to be a bit more future proof, as I can always add more > expanders/interfaces if my system expands, whereas the 01V96 can't > upgrade it's in's and out's too much more (and I'm already close to > the limit). Also, going to an internal setup seems like it would tame > the cable monster slowly growing behind my console desk. However, the > 01V96 does have some great features, and I would be able to mix > externally with recall, and there has been a lot of discussion lately > on the benefits of summing channels outside of Logic (or any other > DAW for that matter). If anybody would like to comment on there > experiences, I would really appreciate the input. You can email me > privately if this seems like an OT thread. Quite strongly I recommend going purely the computer route. Here are a few good reasons: 1. All mix data is automatically saved into a song. You don't have to remember much of what you do to keep your mix always sounding like that. If you move an eq, it's saved in the song, if you automate a fade in-- the automation view lets you edit the fade right on top of your waveform. If you like to automate FX musically (i.e. popping in a tape delay on the last snare hit in bar four, then pop it out for the rest of the pattern) It's all there saved in your song. 2. Access to the finest EQ/compressors available. These days developers aren't coming out with new hardware compressors- it's all software for the most part. Plus the things that are available- bomb factory, UAD1, waves, are OUTSTANDING. It always surprises me how wildly different plug-ins can sound. And you can use them musically-- you can use a waves C1 and make it sound extreme- or use a rcomp for a gentle feel. It's like having a choice of microphones, sometimes the high end neumann is what you need to pick up every nuance- sometimes the shure SM58 is the best choice. Computer based mixing allows the same variety in mixing by using different eqs and so forth. 3. No real limit to tracks/channels etc. Yes there is a limit, but it's so huge that if you were regularly encountering it as a limitation it would probably be just as easy to buy another computer and link them. 4. Expandability- future proof like qualities like you mentioned in your post. Now, one thing you may want to consider is getting a faster computer or a Powercore/UAD1. DP800 is cool, but as you do more and more mixing on the computer you'll find between soft synths and plug-ins you may need more horsepower. If you use the powercore or UAD1, you'll get that additional horsepower for plug-ins. (Same goes if you jump to the G5) Hope this helps you make your decision! _________________________ Erik J. Martin 773.972.6136 http://www.soundanswer.com
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