Another problem for some of us PC users is the large ESX libarys we have been amassing. If we change program all we have is the VST player version EXP-24, we really need a full VST version of the EXS-24 that we can use in other programs. Oh and perhaps they could give it to us for fee, because I doubt there will any money comming from the 70,000 LAW users hands ever again!!! I am Soooo glad I chose not to pay the $400aus to upgrade. I knew something didnt feel right. Adam Calaitzis Toyland Recording Studio Melbourne Australia www.toyland.com.au