>How many different variations of "5.1 is only available for >LogicControl users. A free subrelease for all 5.x users >will be available as soon as it ready" do you need to hear? As many variations as it takes to help you see that 'shipping' equals 'available', and that 'shipping' equals 'ready'. To say that it ships with 5.1 and simultaneously claim it's not available is doublespeak. You can't have it both ways. Either it's not shipping or it is. If it's shipping to some, it's available. if it's available with the additional purchase of the LC then it's available. I resent the fact that Emagic has only made this crucial feature repair available to LC purchasers. There's a famous Jack Nicholson scene from "Five Easy Pieces" that informs this discussion