>The RME stuff isn't exactly built like tanks.......fairly thin steel build, >almost aluminum......tin can like...... Huh? As an owner of both an RME Digiface and a MOTU 2408, I can tell you that this couldn't be farther from the truth. The RME stuff is solidly built, well designed and performs perfectly. In addition, I think RME writes far better ASIO drivers . . .and RME's TotalMix makes Motu's CueMix look like a total joke. best, Jon -- config-- Apple G4 Dual 800, 1.5 gig of ram, Mac OS 9.2.2, RME Hammerfall DSP/ Digiface, MOTU 2408, MOTU MTP AV (USB), Apogee WC Master, Spirit Digital 328 (digital mixer/controller), ATI Radeon AGP, ATI Rage128 (second monitor).