- ok, so I gave ProTools 7.3 a serious chance thinking the latest features would make it possbile for me not to feel too restricted and bored with working entirely in PT. I Use NI Akustik Piano, BFD drums (andy johns expansion pack is the bomb), Spectrasonics etc etc a lot...rarely more than stereo recording on top of that. But I have to say I think the RTAS performance on my system (dual 2.5 G5, 4bg, HD3) sucks A LOT compared to what Logic gives me with ESB (which is annoying too I have to say). Do any of you who have switched to PT found that RTAS is just not very effecient on CPU as well ? I hate when the playback takes a couple of seconds to start and that moving a loop makes the audio stop. There are many great things in ProTools but I cannot sit and wait 4 minutes for it to bounce an RTAS instrument in realtime every time I'm out of CPU power and then thing makes clicks and pops....grrrrr !!! Logic TDM is still better for me...I'd pay serious money for a Logic that is rewire slave compatible with ProTools... Thanks to everyone for keeping this list alive.... Peter

How have you set your processor performance / playback engine in PT? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ---- Original Message ---- From: "peterstengaard" <peterstengaard@mac.com> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: [L-TDM] protools rtas performance vs. coreaudio > - ok, so I gave ProTools 7.3 a serious chance thinking the latest > features would make it possbile for me not to feel too restricted and > bored with working entirely in PT. I Use NI Akustik Piano, BFD drums > (andy johns expansion pack is the bomb), Spectrasonics etc etc a > lot...rarely more than stereo recording on top of that. But I have to > say I think the RTAS performance on my system (dual 2.5 G5, 4bg, HD3) > sucks A LOT compared to what Logic > gives me with ESB (which is annoying too I have to say). Do any of > you who have switched to PT found that RTAS is just not very > effecient on CPU as well ? I hate when the playback takes a couple of > seconds to start and that moving a loop makes the audio stop. There > are many great things in ProTools but I cannot sit and wait 4 minutes > for it to bounce an RTAS instrument in realtime every time I'm out of > CPU power and then thing makes clicks and pops....grrrrr !!! > > Logic TDM is still better for me...I'd pay serious money for a Logic > that is rewire slave compatible with ProTools... > > Thanks to everyone for keeping this list alive.... > > Peter

Yea, i find I can only get about 30% or less of the power under RTAS as I can with core audio or ESB with my dual 2.7 gig G5...I NEVER pushed the limits of the native engine while using Logic and I'm bumping into quite a bit with PT. PT7 was supposed to bring more efficient RTAS but i can't say i've seen it. Maybe digi's own AIR inst are the only plugs to take advantage of it. i definitely couldn't get the job done without my Gigastudios. I'm considering some sort of advanced patchbay system so I can easily go between an HD2 protools rig and a native setup with a 2408mkiii in the same computer. besides the RTAS limitations PT7.3.1 is a killer update though. -judson On Feb 13, 2007, at 2:27 AM, peterstengaard wrote: > - ok, so I gave ProTools 7.3 a serious chance thinking the latest > features would make it > possbile for me not to feel too restricted and bored with working > entirely in PT. I Use NI > Akustik Piano, BFD drums (andy johns expansion pack is the bomb), > Spectrasonics etc etc a > lot...rarely more than stereo recording on top of that. But I have > to say I think the RTAS > performance on my system (dual 2.5 G5, 4bg, HD3) sucks A LOT > compared to what Logic > gives me with ESB (which is annoying too I have to say). Do any of > you who have switched to > PT found that RTAS is just not very effecient on CPU as well ? I > hate when the playback takes > a couple of seconds to start and that moving a loop makes the audio > stop. There are many > great things in ProTools but I cannot sit and wait 4 minutes for it > to bounce an RTAS > instrument in realtime every time I'm out of CPU power and then > thing makes clicks and > pops....grrrrr !!! > > Logic TDM is still better for me...I'd pay serious money for a > Logic that is rewire slave > compatible with ProTools... > > Thanks to everyone for keeping this list alive.... > > Peter > > >

Hi Peter, > But I have to say I think the RTAS > performance on my system (dual 2.5 G5, 4bg, HD3) sucks A LOT compared to > what Logic > gives me with ESB (which is annoying too I have to say). Agreed about the performance, but at least they sound awesome... OTOH, ESB (though it worked absolutely fine under OS 9) is simply unusable under X and it will always be, even if they fix it, and the one and only reason why I for one will ***never*** use it is its crappy, and I mean it, crappy sound. Same can be said about offline bouncing. To me if I need some ESB tracks in my session, there's no other way then rebooting to 9 and working there... Unfortunately no longer an option for those of you using newer machines :-( . This is the only reason why I don't see Logic TDM as my way for future upgrades and am still trying to decide whether I should move to PT or go native with Logic... Best, Andy

FYI Pro Tools 7.3.1cs1 Updates for all Pro Tools 7.3 or 7.3.1 versions for Mac OS X and Windows XP: Pro Tools HD Pro Tools LE Pro Tools M-Powered Pro Tools Academic Available for download from the Pro Tools CS Updates Quick Link in the Support & Downloads section: www.digidesign.com/support In addition to the important fixes from Pro Tools 7.3.1, all Pro Tools 7.3.1cs1 updates for all platforms include the following fix: Fixed: Adjusting Send Levels While Recording Audio Can Result in the Send Levels Resetting to "0" When Reopening The Session (Item #86186) This would occur if no automation had been written on the Send. Pro Tools HD 7.3.1cs1 for Mac OS X also includes the following: Fixed: Disabling "Auto Input Monitoring" on Logic Pro 7.2.x (Direct TDM Configuration) Results In Random Error Messages (Item #85250) This problem does not occur with "Auto Input Monitoring" enabled. Pro Tools HD 7.3.1cs1 for Windows XP also includes the following: Fixed: Moving OMF Video Clips On The TimeLine Could Result In an Access Violation Error Message (Item #85536) This would usually occur a number of drag and dropped OMF video clips from the Workspace were moved around on the timeline. The message was "Could not complete the Region Slide command because Access violation occurred". -------------------- Digi Web Admin

Hello, i am sure many of you are familiar with the I/O setup (input/outputs assignments/labels) in ProTools (PT). I am also sure that many of you are aware of the fact that those assignments in logic are not per song as they are in PT. I find PT's per song approach really useful, mainly because i am working in several projects at the same time, conmuting between a MacBook and a Logic TDM station with a G5. I am trying to come up with a fast way to change that part of the Audio Configuration (the lables). Anyone has a suggestion, maybe with applescript or something like that involved. I am posting this also in the Logic TDM list, i think this info is useful in both lists. warm regards from Mexico Vico

Have you constructed your auto load song? That is the best way to make your most frequent template. You can also like PT make template sessions and mark them as ³stationary² pad in the info pane of the session. Click on the session once and type cmd>I. --

- thanks for the response to all...I don't think I hear any sound differerence in RTAS over using ESB in Logic..when I bounce - even offline in Logic my tracks sound the same in PT and logic with NI synths for instance. Anybody else second the opinion that RTAS sounds better than CoreAudio/ESB ?? I only really get into ESB problems when the CPU gets overloaded...then I have to restart and it sucks but other than that it works fine here. My main problem with Logic TDM is the lack of delay compensation on the TDM side. The midi is still way better and I actually like the environment idea in Logic...it crashes when I have too many audio edits and move loops around on the fly but PT has weird crashes as well....I just haven't found the workarounds to those yet...btw my hardware settings in PT are usually 512 and level 2...that's ok until I load Akustik piano and BFD...then I get clicks and pops left and right and I wanna throw out my PT rig :-) Best Regards Peter

> Anybody else second the opinion that RTAS sounds > better than CoreAudio/ESB ?? I guess I need to clarify my point here: it's not RTAS VS ESB, but PT driver/mixer VS Digi CoreAudio Driver/ESB... I meant with PT/RTAS you don't use the Digi CoreAudio driver, therefore the sound is noticeably better. Real TDM tracks sound fine in Logic, though honestly I still hear the difference between my mixes done in Logic and PT... Best, Andy

So...has anyone actually tried it and can confirm that auto input monitoring can now be either 'on' or 'off'? Which version of LOGIC? Thanks Brio On 13 Feb 2007, at 13:32, mkbeatwebde wrote: > FYI > > Pro Tools 7.3.1cs1 Updates for all Pro Tools 7.3 or 7.3.1 versions > for Mac OS X and > Windows XP: > Pro Tools HD > Pro Tools LE > Pro Tools M-Powered > Pro Tools Academic > > Available for download from the Pro Tools CS Updates Quick Link in > the Support & > Downloads section: > www.digidesign.com/support > > In addition to the important fixes from Pro Tools 7.3.1, all Pro > Tools 7.3.1cs1 updates for > all platforms include the following fix: > > Fixed: Adjusting Send Levels While Recording Audio Can Result in > the Send Levels > Resetting to "0" When Reopening The Session (Item #86186) > This would occur if no automation had been written on the Send. > > Pro Tools HD 7.3.1cs1 for Mac OS X also includes the following: > > Fixed: Disabling "Auto Input Monitoring" on Logic Pro 7.2.x (Direct > TDM Configuration) > Results In Random Error Messages (Item #85250) > This problem does not occur with "Auto Input Monitoring" enabled. > > Pro Tools HD 7.3.1cs1 for Windows XP also includes the following: > > Fixed: Moving OMF Video Clips On The TimeLine Could Result In an > Access Violation Error > Message (Item #85536) > This would usually occur a number of drag and dropped OMF video > clips from the > Workspace were moved around on the timeline. The message was "Could > not complete the > Region Slide command because Access violation occurred". > > -------------------- > Digi Web Admin > > >

Yes, it works. Logic Pro 7.2.3 on a Dual 2.5GHz G5, HD3 Accel Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Am 16.02.2007 um 01:39 schrieb brio: > So...has anyone actually tried it and can confirm that auto input > monitoring can now be either 'on' or 'off'? Which version of LOGIC?

I've re-installed today PT7.3, PT7.3.1cs1 and a complete de-and re- install of logic 7.2 (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html? artnum04018) + updates 7.2.1 and 7.2.3 and it finally works. Thanks everybody for your help! Wim Dual G5 2,7 ghz, 4,5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.8 Logic 7.2.3 Logic with DAE and DTDM HD3 Accel, Protools 7.3.1cs1 192, 2 x 96i, 1x 96 interface www.studioclose.be

Hi there...does anyone have a great experience with running these two on separate machines and sync'ing over ethernet/network-midi ? I can get it to work ok but the timing is not consistent...it basically doesn't lock into the same place every time it catches on (using logic as master) - is there a tweak to any of the settings I need to be aware of ? or should I go old school and hook up two midi interfaces and a good old midi cable between them ? Thanks for any help :-) Peter

You should have both systems synched to the same clock. This might help keep a more consistent lock, and will definitely prevent any drift. bd On Feb 18, 2007, at 10:28 AM, peterstengaard wrote: > Hi there...does anyone have a great experience with running these > two on separate machines > and sync'ing over ethernet/network-midi ? I can get it to work ok > but the timing is not > consistent...it basically doesn't lock into the same place every > time it catches on (using logic > as master) - is there a tweak to any of the settings I need to be > aware of ? or should I go old > school and hook up two midi interfaces and a good old midi cable > between them ? > > Thanks for any help :-) > > Peter > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Hey there! I am a Logic Pro 7 user on a 1.8 Ghz imac G5. I run lots of tracks so need extra processing capability. Could someone describe to me the possibilities of hooking my setup with a TDM? device to acquire more processing? I really know nothing much at this point in time. What would be the hassles, expense, successes, general overview of how it's done? Thanks!

I'm thinking of stopping with the combination DAE+DTDM and switch to DAE+Core audio+Motu 828 MKII. My questions: - Does core audio with 828 MKII sounds better than DTDM with 192? - Is DAE+Core audio more stable than DAE+DTDM? - Is it sufficient that I install the Motu Core Audio driver and connect the 828 MKII with firewire to my mac? - What about clock with the combination 828MKII , 192, 2x96i, 1x96? I heard about connecting the 192 and the 828MKII with lightpipe. My questions: - How do I have to do make this connection? One way lightpipe? - Do I keep with a lightpipe-connection at my 192 all analog 8 in-and 16 outputs for DAE? - Do I have to change settings in the hardware setup settings of my 192? - Can I use lightpipe at 96khz? - What are the advantages of a lightpipe-connection in stead of connecting the 828MKII just with firewire? Any help is appreciated! Wim Setup: Dual G5 2,7 ghz, 4,5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.8 Logic 7.2.3 HD3 Accel, Protools 7.3.1cs1 192, 2 x 96i, 1x 96 interface Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Sorry to bump this all over again, but how do you turn off the PM? If I uncheck "load database at startup" it still crashes on search.... couldn't find any other PM prefs anyone help please? Brio On 17 Jan 2007, at 21:15, vico wrote: > If you turn off the Project Manager Database while having the DAE > engine enabled, it works, otherwise it crashes Logic. > > regards. > > Vico > > On Jan 16, 2007, at 6:12 PM, brio wrote: > > > Just wondering if it is indeed possible that they still haven't > fixed > > the function that searches your disk for lost audiofiles? > > Out of the available choices 'skip', 'search' and 'manually' the > > option 'search' will definitely force-quit logic (without message) > > and sometimes hard crash the entire mac ("you need to restart your > > computer by pressing the power button...") > > > > I just can't believe this still hasn't been fixed in LOGIC pro > 7.2.3?? > > > > or is it a combination of DAE and OS that I am using? > > > > Thanks > > Brio > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Hey Wim I can¹t speak for the 192 questions as I am a hpold out mix TDM user but to connect the 828 mkII you need to both connect the firewire and lightpipe connections. And lightpipe connections both ways will allow you to bus TDM instruments to native tracks (eg spacedesigner). When you hook up the 828 via lightpipe set the clock source on the motu firewire console to adat optical so it will clock off your 192 (or whatever you 192 is synched to). Using Coreaudio with TDM/HD is better sounding and most importantly more stable. The 828 mkII as well as the rme fireface have onboard mixing capabilities so I use it to also submix hardware synths and samplers on my system. Be aware that if you are not already a protools or logic owner there may be some version tracking required to get compatible programs and no TDM support for intel MACs as of yet. I'm thinking of stopping with the combination DAE+DTDM and switch to DAE+Core audio+Motu 828 MKII. My questions: - Does core audio with 828 MKII sounds better than DTDM with 192? - Is DAE+Core audio more stable than DAE+DTDM? - Is it sufficient that I install the Motu Core Audio driver and connect the 828 MKII with firewire to my mac? - What about clock with the combination 828MKII , 192, 2x96i, 1x96? I heard about connecting the 192 and the 828MKII with lightpipe. My questions: - How do I have to do make this connection? One way lightpipe? - Do I keep with a lightpipe-connection at my 192 all analog 8 in-and 16 outputs for DAE? - Do I have to change settings in the hardware setup settings of my 192? - Can I use lightpipe at 96khz? - What are the advantages of a lightpipe-connection in stead of connecting the 828MKII just with firewire? Any help is appreciated! Wim Setup: Dual G5 2,7 ghz, 4,5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.8 Logic 7.2.3 HD3 Accel, Protools 7.3.1cs1 192, 2 x 96i, 1x 96 interface -- Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Hey Guys, Selling my RME DIGI9636 PCI card. I'm posting it here, because I used to use it to pipe 8 channels out of Logic and into the TDM hardware side, bypassing ESB. Just plug the lightpipe cables out of the the card and into the 192 or 96 i/o. Worked great. Asking $300, includes a couple lightpipe cables, you pay shipping. Also, have a Lucid GENx6 wordclock with the rack shelf and extra dummy faceplate. $275. Thanks, brian www.thestickhouse.com Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Phillips" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Keith Phillips <keithmusic@...>: > > Hey there! > I am a Logic Pro 7 user on a 1.8 Ghz imac G5. I run lots of tracks so need > extra processing capability. Could someone describe to me the possibilities > of hooking my setup with a TDM? device to acquire more processing? I really > know nothing much at this point in time. What would be the hassles, > expense, successes, general overview of how it's done? Thanks! > I am a ProTools user, so I don't have experience in using the nodes feature, but it seems like a good solution for you over investing in a ProTools setup. Not to mention, as of now the Logic and TDM operation seems not to function as well as expected. Using the nodes feature, you buy another gigabit mac and connect it and logic uses the computer as additional processing power. Maybe others who have used it can give you their experiences. Chris Neal :: Elephant Media Productions .: www.elephantmedia.com .: cneal@elephantmedia.com Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Here an interesting question: I have a Mix ++ system, PT 6.4, Logic 7.1.1, OS 10.3.9 running on a G4 1.25 All is well with my system for the most part - as you all know, this is the last version that worked before Logic TDM systems became really buggy. You also would know that I can't move in any direction (upgrades to the OS or Protools) without having to move to a different computer, or HD (a huge expense for me), only to inherit bugs that i don't have now. If it wasn't for the bugginess of the HD move I might do it, but why bother when it wouldn't run as well as what i have now? One way around this might be to buy an MBox 2 and Protools 7.3 and put that on a separate computer (perhaps another used g4) and run that in sync and route the audio back into my mix plus. This would allow me to buy plugs like drum rehab, and in other cases, RTAS versions of things that are always cheaper than TDM anyway. If I network the 2 computers i could likely load and echange files between the computers fairly easily and treat the Mbox system as a place to treat and edit tracks and then bring the treated files back into Logic/TDM 1. Does this idea seem reasonable? 2. Would running them in synch be relatively painless? Thanks for your ideas Greg Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Greg Critchley wrote: > 1. Does this idea seem reasonable? Hmmm... Not to me... Those MBox converters are unusable to my ears... Also, how do you plan to clock the whole system (slave MBox to S/PDIF or what)? Another thought... PT LE with RTAS in general has never been as efficient as, say, Logic in native mode, so you shouldn't count on it too much if you want to make large sessions with lots of VIs or heavy plugs... To me it's either going native with the Symphony or Ensemble or switching to PT software... Just MMHO though... Best, Andy -- Andy Hardwake Composer/Producer <http://www.myspace.com/andyhardwake>; Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Hey greg Are you talking about using it as an effects processor? If that¹s the case you could get a digi 001 or 002 and connect via lightpipe into an adat bridge (good chance you already have one) and get 8 channels of send/return. A good transition strategy you might consider thpugh is getting a good G5 (PCIE) and run Logic on it (or Performer) and synch it to your TDM Rig. It won¹t solve your plug in issues but it will smooth your transition to a HD rig. Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Thanks essentially it would be a place to process certain plugins (like drum rehab) that i can't get for PT 6.4, and would allow me to buy and use rtas plugs, which are cheaper than TDM. i would still work mainly in my Logic 7/TDM environment on my existing computer, but would bring tracks over into the PTLE system to process and add certain rtaz effects, and then bring those tracks back into my main logic setup. I wouldn't really be running too many tracks in sync very often. Does the Digi002 sound better than the Mbox? thanks again greg On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:58 AM, skylabfilmpop wrote: > Hey greg > > Are you talking about using it as an effects processor? If that¹s the > case > you could get a digi 001 or 002 and connect via lightpipe into an adat > bridge (good chance you already have one) and get 8 channels of > send/return. > A good transition strategy you might consider thpugh is getting a > good G5 > (PCIE) and run Logic on it (or Performer) and synch it to your TDM > Rig. It > won¹t solve your plug in issues but it will smooth your transition to > a HD > rig. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:58 AM, skylabfilmpop wrote: > Are you talking about using it as an effects processor? If that’s > the case > you could get a digi 001 or 002 and connect via lightpipe into an adat > bridge 001 won't be of much help as the last 001 compatible version of PT is 6.4, so you won't be able to run newer plug-ins with it... Best, Andy -- Andy Hardwake Composer/Producer <http://www.myspace.com/andyhardwake>; Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:logic-tdm-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:logic-tdm-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups - Join or create groups, clubs, forums &amp; communities. is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/