I don't know if Pro Tools 3 is approved by Digi for Logic. Have you checked the system requirements on the Digi compatibility page? - Dave On Jan 24, 2007, at 10:09 AM, suppobol wrote: > I've tried to install Protools 7.3.1 but now I always get different > DAE-errors in Logic 7.2.3 > > Who is already working with Logic 7.2.3 and Protools 7.3.1 on PPC > (not intel?) > Is it working fine? > > How have you installed it? Only Protools 7.3.1 above an older > version of protools or > everything (also Logic) from scratch? > I work in Logic with DAE en DTDM enabled (no core audio). > > Any help is appreciated! > > Wim > > HD3, G5 dual 2,7 ghz, Protools 7.1cs10, Logic 7.2.3, 192, 96, 2x96i > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Hi Wim, It works fine on my setup without DAE errors so far. This is my setup: Mac PPC G4 Dual 1,25 GHz (FW800) + ATTO UL3D OSX 10.4.8 + PT HD 7.3.1 + Logic Pro 7.2.3 PT HD 7 Accel (1 x HD Core PCI + 6 x HD Accel PCI) inside 7-slot 64 bit Digidesign PCI Exp. Chassis 192 I/O + 192D I/O + SYNC I/O + MIDI I/O + ProControl + Avid Mojo Apogee Big Ben + Apogee Rosetta 200 + Rosendahl Nanosyncs I did not reinstall anything, I just installed each new version onto the previous version (Logic Pro and PT HD), both starting from version 7.0 and each time a new version was released. I did not really cared about it, I just installed an update and it always worked (more or less) fine. But I do need to admit I use Logic Pro less and less, as the MIDI in PT HD 7.3.1 has become much better now, even for serious music composing & arranging. Maybe you should do a clean installation, starting with PT HD 7.3, then PT HD 7.3.1, then Logic Pro 7.2 + updates to 7.2.3(always install PT HD before you install Logic Pro, the installer needs to 'see' the DAE to perform a correct installation) Best regards, Marc Schellekens http://www.deltamusic.be Delta Music - Pro Tools HD Mix & Mastering Suite - Belgium Delta Music - Pro Tools HD Professional User Support - Belgium Delta Music - Pro Tools HD Training & Education Suite - Belgium PS: this one is on the house :-) --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "suppobol" <wimclaes@...> wrote: > > I've tried to install Protools 7.3.1 but now I always get different DAE-errors in Logic 7.2.3 > > Who is already working with Logic 7.2.3 and Protools 7.3.1 on PPC (not intel?) > Is it working fine? > > How have you installed it? Only Protools 7.3.1 above an older version of protools or > everything (also Logic) from scratch? > I work in Logic with DAE en DTDM enabled (no core audio). > > Any help is appreciated! > > Wim > > HD3, G5 dual 2,7 ghz, Protools 7.1cs10, Logic 7.2.3, 192, 96, 2x96i >

I'm using PT 7.3.1 and Logic 7.2.3 and everything seems to be working fine. G5 Dual 2.7, OSX 10.4.8, 4.5 GB RAM. I Don't use the DTDM bridge any longer. I gave up on that about a year ago and instead use a seperate FW interface for Core Audio that runs into my 192 via spdif. On Jan 24, 2007, at 10:09 AM, suppobol wrote: > I've tried to install Protools 7.3.1 but now I always get different > DAE-errors in Logic 7.2.3 > > Who is already working with Logic 7.2.3 and Protools 7.3.1 on PPC > (not intel?) > Is it working fine? > > How have you installed it? Only Protools 7.3.1 above an older > version of protools or > everything (also Logic) from scratch? > I work in Logic with DAE en DTDM enabled (no core audio). > > Any help is appreciated! > > Wim > > HD3, G5 dual 2,7 ghz, Protools 7.1cs10, Logic 7.2.3, 192, 96, 2x96i > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "khaarmeyer" <khaarmeyer@...> wrote: > Anyone heard of anything so far with compatibility of LOGIC PRO with > TDM on an intel MAC??? > > I had thought at NAMM something would have been mentioned. > > Sorry for the rant, but I am frustrated with Apple's lack of service > to audio professionals at this point given the last several months of > misadvertising and erronous support. > > Thanks. > I feel exactly the same as you, is a nightmare..... If i had been more aware of this would not have changed to the Intel Mac.... I know apple now own part of Apogee, and I am a big fan of Apogee, but Core audio just doesnt cut it... The rumour is Apple will not support TDM from this point on, with Intel based machines.

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That is just a rumour. An inside contact at the Apple Pro Application group has stated they are aware of this problem and are working to fix it. He said they consider it a problem because there are so many pro film composers that use both Logic and TDM. Of course, it's Apple, so they don't specify when it will be fixed. The contact also said that there are at least some composers who have managed get this to work,but they are using Logic 7.2.0 or 7.2.1, not 7.2.2 or later. Logic 7.2.2 was made to use the full multi-core processors and that is apparently what broke the DAE connection. I haven't tried this yet but plan to try it when my current album is done. If you have an intel Mac, I recommend you install Logic Pro 7.2.0, but do not update to the most recent version. It's possible it will work for you with Pro Tools. Please let us know what you find out. I will report my results as soon as I can get to it. - Dave On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:01 PM, matt_eleph wrote: > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "khaarmeyer" <khaarmeyer@...> wrote: >> Anyone heard of anything so far with compatibility of LOGIC PRO with >> TDM on an intel MAC??? >> >> I had thought at NAMM something would have been mentioned. >> >> Sorry for the rant, but I am frustrated with Apple's lack of service >> to audio professionals at this point given the last several months of >> misadvertising and erronous support. >> >> Thanks. >> > > I feel exactly the same as you, is a nightmare..... If i had been > more aware of this would > not have changed to the Intel Mac.... I know apple now own part of > Apogee, and I am a big > fan of Apogee, but Core audio just doesnt cut it... > > The rumour is Apple will not support TDM from this point on, with > Intel based machines. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, David Gordon <music-pro@...> wrote: > > You are not alone. And this is for sure an Apple issue, not Digi - > there is an announcement about it on the Digi website on the > compatibility page. Here is the text from Digi: > > > Although Logic Pro 7.2 is a universal version that runs natively on > > both Intel- and PowerPC-based Mac systems, Logic Pro 7.2 is not yet > > compatible in DAE mode with Pro Tools HD 7.2.1 for Intel-based Mac > > Pro systems. > > In order to use Logic Pro with Digidesign hardware on Intel-based > > Macs, the Digidesign CoreAudio Driver must be used instead of DAE > > mode in Logic. > > Logic Pro will require a future update from Apple to support Pro > > Tools HD DAE for Intel-based Macs. > > I've done a bunch of research on this and after a lot of digging got > some info from insiders at Apple. > > Apple does not offer a specific date for fixing this bug, but they > are very aware of it and consider it important. My contact told me > that their goal is to have it fixed before NAMM (mid-January), > because they don't want a bunch of angry users thronging their booth > at NAMM while they try and sell their new versions. > > Even better, he said that while 7.2.3 definitely does NOT work with > TDM on the Mac Pro, some users have found a way to get it to work. > > The workaround is to uninstall Lotic 7.2.3 and then install Logic > 7.2.0 or 7.2.1 but not to update past version 7.2.1. Those earlier > versions may work with TDM. (Make sure to instal Pro Tools 7.2.1 > first.) Those earlier versions of Logic only use 2 of the 4 CPU > cores in the Mac Pro. When Apple "fixed" Logic to use all 4 of the > dual intel duo cores, the TDM functionality was broken. > > So it may work, but the native side will be hobbled a bit by only > having two cores to work with. Still, that's way better than no TDM! > I have not tested this yet - am planning to give it a go in the next > few days and will report the results. > > Meanwhile, if anyone else tries this, please report the results here! > > - Dave Has anyone been able to get this to work by uninstalling 7.2.3? I tried both 7.2.0 and 7.2.1 and I still only have COREAUDIO available to select in Hardware drivers. > > > > > > > > On Dec 4, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Richard Bull wrote: > > > Message posted by Richard Bull <higherground@...>: > > > > No, you're not the only one and I'm totally with you on this. I > > recently upgraded to a Mac Pro and PT HD2 and I had every right to > > expect this system to be compatible, based on the information > > available on Apple's website at that time. I know that the current > > incompatibility is not Apple's fault, but the fact that they knew > > about the problem and chose not to mention it to potential > > upgraders was absolutely disgraceful. > > > > > On Dec 4, 2006, at 11:36 AM, khaarmeyer wrote: > > Am I the only one who is EXTREMELY upset with Apple support right > > now with LOGIC and > > TDM and the way they respond to their PRO users? > > > > After upgrading to a Mac Pro, PT HD2 system, and LOGIC PRO, I find > > out through this forum > > (not from Apple) that TDM is not supported with the new INTEL MACS > > and they will have no > > idea when an update will be favailable. An update, by the way, I > > was told I might have to pay > > for, even though it is advertised to be working now. > > > > The thing is, before upgrading I specifically asked them about TDM > > and the MAC PRO and > > was told everything works. > > > > When I called Apple today, after 30 minutes of waiting for an > > answer, they said there is > > nothing they could do. > > > > Sorry about the RANT. > > > > Can anyone give me an idea how I can access my older sessions with > > TDM plugs, like > > EXS24TDM, and find out what the presets where? Without DAE > > available you cannot open the > > plugins. > > > > >

What version of Pro Tools are you using? - Dave On Jan 24, 2007, at 10:17 PM, khaarmeyer wrote: > > > Has anyone been able to get this to work by uninstalling 7.2.3? I > tried both 7.2.0 and 7.2.1 and I still only have COREAUDIO available > to select in Hardware drivers.

How can you say core audio doesn't cut it? Have you tried the Apogee Drivers? I have, they cut it just fine. bd On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:01 PM, matt_eleph wrote: > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "khaarmeyer" <khaarmeyer@...> wrote: >> Anyone heard of anything so far with compatibility of LOGIC PRO with >> TDM on an intel MAC??? >> >> I had thought at NAMM something would have been mentioned. >> >> Sorry for the rant, but I am frustrated with Apple's lack of service >> to audio professionals at this point given the last several months of >> misadvertising and erronous support. >> >> Thanks. >> > > I feel exactly the same as you, is a nightmare..... If i had been > more aware of this would > not have changed to the Intel Mac.... I know apple now own part of > Apogee, and I am a big > fan of Apogee, but Core audio just doesnt cut it... > > The rumour is Apple will not support TDM from this point on, with > Intel based machines. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

David Gordon <music-pro@cox.net> wrote: > An inside contact at the Apple Pro Application group has stated they > are aware of this problem and are working to fix it. He said they > consider it a problem because there are so many pro film composers > that use both Logic and TDM. > Of course, it's Apple, so they don't specify when it will be fixed. It's been over four months now... that seems like a hell of a long time to fix this? I'm starting to get used to Pro Tools now, but I just can't abide the Midi side of it. > The contact also said that there are at least some composers who have > managed get this to work,but they are using Logic 7.2.0 or 7.2.1, not > 7.2.2 or later. Logic 7.2.2 was made to use the full multi-core > processors and that is apparently what broke the DAE connection. > I haven't tried this yet but plan to try it when my current album is > done. I've tried this a a couple of times and it didn't work.

I just bought the Intel quad and the Apogee symphony setup, I'll let you know how it works, I also bought the Macbook Pro logic runs great on that. cheers, Paul PAUL HARTWIG COMPOSER cell 612.280.0954 paul@hartwigmusic.com

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"matt_eleph" <matt_eleph@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >I know apple now own part of Apogee, and I am a big >fan of Apogee, but Core audio just doesnt cut it... I have no clue about Apple partly owning Apogee. I've never heard this before. But Core Audio using PCI is EXCELLENT. You definitely will get better performance using Apogee's Symphony PCI (or PCIe) than their Ensemble Firewire interface (or any other Firewire or USB interface). "matt_eleph" <matt_eleph@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > The rumour is Apple will not support TDM from this point on, > with Intel based machines. This rumour has been around since about 1997. What do you base this one on? f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Richard Sorry to hear the experiment didn't work. How did it fail? Did it crash? Was the DAE driver just not recognized? DAE errors? Thanks Dave On Jan 25, 2007, at 2:51 AM, Richard Bull wrote: > Message posted by Richard Bull <higherground@btinternet.com>: > > David Gordon <music-pro@cox.net> wrote: >> An inside contact at the Apple Pro Application group has stated they >> are aware of this problem and are working to fix it. He said they >> consider it a problem because there are so many pro film composers >> that use both Logic and TDM. > >> Of course, it's Apple, so they don't specify when it will be fixed. > > It's been over four months now... that seems like a hell of a long > time to fix this? > I'm starting to get used to Pro Tools now, but I just can't abide > the Midi side of it. > > >> The contact also said that there are at least some composers who have >> managed get this to work,but they are using Logic 7.2.0 or 7.2.1, not >> 7.2.2 or later. Logic 7.2.2 was made to use the full multi-core >> processors and that is apparently what broke the DAE connection. > >> I haven't tried this yet but plan to try it when my current album is >> done. > > I've tried this a a couple of times and it didn't work. > > > __

f-erenc Do you still use TDM too or have you completely switched over to Core Audio with Symphony and no TDM? - Dave David Gordon Composer/Producer Sequoia Records http://www.sequoiarecords.com On Jan 25, 2007, at 1:03 PM, f-erenc szabo wrote: > "matt_eleph" <matt_eleph@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> I know apple now own part of Apogee, and I am a big >> fan of Apogee, but Core audio just doesnt cut it... > > I have no clue about Apple partly owning Apogee. > I've never heard this before. But Core Audio > using PCI is EXCELLENT. You definitely will > get better performance using Apogee's Symphony > PCI (or PCIe) than their Ensemble Firewire interface > (or any other Firewire or USB interface). > > "matt_eleph" <matt_eleph@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> The rumour is Apple will not support TDM from this point on, >> with Intel based machines. > > This rumour has been around since about 1997. What do > you base this one on? > > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> > > > > > >

Dave: No crash. The only available hardware/audio is "CoreAudio", nothing else is available. Oh well.. I even called Apple and they had said it would work.. Keith

David Gordon <music-pro@cox.net> wrote: > How did it fail? Did it crash? Was the DAE driver just not > recognized? DAE errors? Same as 7.2.3... DAE not recognized.

An Apogee dealer sent me some stuff to try, and maybe I am just used to doing things a certain way, but I did miss my TDM rig. I love the sound of Apogee converters, I use them as a front end for my HD rig, but maybe it is just the way I work. I have friends who use the same converters as me in a core based system and have no problems with the latency, however small. My sessions tend to be quite big, not unusual to have 40 or 50 tracks running happily, and this is where I worry that there will be problems. Maybe I need to give it another go. The other major issue is, the majority of studio's that I mix in, I can happily just take a couple of Hard Drive's and re-assign my outputs to the SSL or Neve, and I am away. Maybe it will change but the big studio's still seem to be TDM based..... --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@...> wrote: > > How can you say core audio doesn't cut it? Have you tried the Apogee > Drivers? > > I have, they cut it just fine. > > bd > > On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:01 PM, matt_eleph wrote: > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "khaarmeyer" <khaarmeyer@> wrote: > >> Anyone heard of anything so far with compatibility of LOGIC PRO with > >> TDM on an intel MAC??? > >> > >> I had thought at NAMM something would have been mentioned. > >> > >> Sorry for the rant, but I am frustrated with Apple's lack of service > >> to audio professionals at this point given the last several months of > >> misadvertising and erronous support. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > > > > I feel exactly the same as you, is a nightmare..... If i had been > > more aware of this would > > not have changed to the Intel Mac.... I know apple now own part of > > Apogee, and I am a big > > fan of Apogee, but Core audio just doesnt cut it... > > > > The rumour is Apple will not support TDM from this point on, with > > Intel based machines.

HI Guys! I just bought Logic Pro Last week, and I am not being able to set it up properly to run with TDM. I have an HD2 accell rig on a dual 1.8 PCI G5. How do I setup the IAC buss, is it through the audiomidi setup? Thanks, I am looking forward to get it up and running...

Dave: Running Protools 7.3.1 Regards, Keith

I use Core Audio only when in LOGIC, then burn everything into protools. Which is the way I work anyway. But I have to switch my interfaces everytime as CoreAudio form Digidesign only allows the first 8 ins/outs.

Hi. I just upgraded to a mac pro running pro tools 7.3 with a 192 I/O. I have logic 7.2 installed (along with the ESB TDM driver). When I start Logic, and open Adio Hardware and Drivers, there is no DAE or Direct TDM tabs (only Core audio). I know everything is installed correctly, and my hardware is running correctly. Does anyone know why this is happening? Is it that logic does not support the newest Digidesign hardware and software? or is there a step im missing? Thanks

What Mac are you running on? Did you install Pro Tools before installing Logic? - Dave David Gordon Composer/Producer Sequoia Records 760-942-7574 http://www.davidgordon.com http://www.sequoiarecords.com On Jan 29, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Ryan McBride wrote: > Message posted by Ryan McBride <ryan@mcbridesounddesign.com>: > > Hi. > I just upgraded to a mac pro running pro tools 7.3 with a 192 I/O. > I have > logic 7.2 installed (along with the ESB TDM driver). When I start > Logic, and > open Adio Hardware and Drivers, there is no DAE or Direct TDM tabs > (only > Core audio). I know everything is installed correctly, and my > hardware is > running correctly. Does anyone know why this is happening? Is it > that logic > does not support the newest Digidesign hardware and software? or is > there a > step im missing? > > Thanks >

I am running on a 2.66 mac pro and yes, i installed pro tools first

Logic is not compatible with TDM on Intel yet... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Am 29.01.2007 um 21:02 schrieb Ryan McBride: > Message posted by Ryan McBride <ryan@mcbridesounddesign.com>: > > I am running on a 2.66 mac pro and yes, i installed pro tools first