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--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@...>
wrote:
> > I use Lacie FW drives - suggestions? Are we off topic?
Seven Lacie FW drives, seven failures. I personally will never buy another
JJC
I have a great run with the OWC Mercury Elite Drives. It's the only
ones I ever buy for myself or my clients. I also keep Disc Warrior
and Tech Tool Pro handy...
http://www.otherworldcomputing.com/
On Dec 31, 2006, at 12:09 PM, johnnyjaycee wrote:
> --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Andy Hardwake
<andyhardwake@...>
> wrote:
>
>>> I use Lacie FW drives - suggestions? Are we off topic?
>
> Seven Lacie FW drives, seven failures. I personally will never buy
> another
>
> JJC
>
>
>
>
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I have found that a high percentage of the time, the failures are the
power supplies, not the drives. Try swapping them out. It really makes
a difference.
Also, reformatting the "failed" drives makes them work again,
usually
indefinitely.
I hate LaCies as well, but this has made a bad situation better.
On Dec 31, 2006, at 12:09 PM, johnnyjaycee wrote:
> --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Andy Hardwake
<andyhardwake@...>
> wrote:
>
> > > I use Lacie FW drives - suggestions? Are we off topic?
>
> Seven Lacie FW drives, seven failures. I personally will never buy
> another
>
> JJC
>
>
>
--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Colin Miller <logicuser@...> wrote:
>
> I am. So far no problems, but it's still early.
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:51 PM, ativity2003 wrote:
>
> > anyone try this yet?
> >
> > thx
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
>
Crashed my system ! But didn't do a clean install nor cancelled prefs ...
Got to get more into it and in any case I'm still on my G4 1 Ghz MD
Andy
I don't think the don't go to lunch bug is from firewire.
If the drives were going to sleep, then you could go to lunch by
leaving Logic looping some audio to keep the drives running, but when
I've tested that I've found the error happens anyway.
The strange thing is that I an do a bounce of a long track - as long
as an hour even - without the don't go to lunch bug. but if I just
leave a loop of a 3 minute song on play and let it go for a half hour
or so, the bug appears.
Maybe the combination of no keyboard and mouse activity, plus being
in play mode and not record mode, is the condition to make it happen.
I've also noticed that closing the song and reopening it later, is
just as good as quitting and restarting Logic for stopping this bug.
So lunch is now possible.
But the bottom line is, FW drives seem to work fine,
The LaCie are the ones I've been using - but they use mostly Maxtor
drives inside - and Maxtor is now owned by Seagate - so it's just a
question of which case style and interface you like.
- Dave
David Gordon
Composer/Producer
Sequoia Records
http://www.sequoiarecords.com
On Dec 30, 2006, at 12:08 AM, Andy Hardwake wrote:
>
> On Friday, December 29, 2006, at 4:12 PM, "Greg Critchley"
> <greg@gregcritchley.com> wrote:
>
>> I use Lacie FW drives - suggestions? Are we off topic?
>
> Not really... I'm just trying to understand what may cause the
> "don't go to
> lunch" bug other than putting the CPU and HDs to sleep... I was
> thinking of
> adding some FW drives to my setup (currently I have 4 internal ATA
> drives).
> Anyone else using FW drives still have the thing?
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
the sleep thing is more of a nuisance than a bug. I usually get a "disk
too slow" error, followed by some ESB distortion or freakout noise, but
that is remedied by the EXS on the ESB channel workaround, and I'm back
to running - although sometimes it crashes as well. What's interesting
is that this is expected and tolerated behavior, LOL. We of the Logic
ilk are certainly loyal!!
On Dec 30, 2006, at 12:08 AM, Andy Hardwake wrote:
>
> On Friday, December 29, 2006, at 4:12 PM, "Greg Critchley"
> <greg@gregcritchley.com> wrote:
>
> > I use Lacie FW drives - suggestions? Are we off topic?
>
> Not really... I'm just trying to understand what may cause the
"don't
> go to
> lunch" bug other than putting the CPU and HDs to sleep... I was
> thinking of
> adding some FW drives to my setup (currently I have 4 internal ATA
> drives).
> Anyone else using FW drives still have the thing?
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Gordon <music-pro@cox.net>
> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 1/4/2007 12:50:20 AM
> Subject: Re: "Don't go to lunch" bug and firewire drives -
was: [L-TDM]
Laststable Logic for Mix-System
>
> Andy
>
> I don't think the don't go to lunch bug is from firewire.
>
> If the drives were going to sleep, then you could go to lunch by
> leaving Logic looping some audio to keep the drives running, but when
> I've tested that I've found the error happens anyway.
>
> The strange thing is that I an do a bounce of a long track - as long
> as an hour even - without the don't go to lunch bug. but if I just
> leave a loop of a 3 minute song on play and let it go for a half hour
> or so, the bug appears.
>
> Maybe the combination of no keyboard and mouse activity, plus being
> in play mode and not record mode, is the condition to make it happen.
>
> I've also noticed that closing the song and reopening it later, is
> just as good as quitting and restarting Logic for stopping this bug.
>
> So lunch is now possible.
>
> But the bottom line is, FW drives seem to work fine,
>
> The LaCie are the ones I've been using - but they use mostly Maxtor
> drives inside - and Maxtor is now owned by Seagate - so it's just a
> question of which case style and interface you like.
>
> - Dave
Hi guys
I have never experiensed the "go to lunch bug" - I can easily
leave my system for hours !
OSX 10.4.7 -G5 2.5 GHz dual - 4.5 Gb ram - LP 7.2.1 HD3 - PT 7.1cs9 - don't
use ESB ,
but adat signal from Motu 828 mk2 to one 192i/o - Spectrasonics VI's - all
Toontracks
VI's
the system is really stable, when I stopped using ESB, I discovered a big
difference in
sound, it sounds better to use a hardware interface for native sound .
best regards Lars
--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, David Gordon <music-pro@...> wrote:
>
> Andy
>
> I don't think the don't go to lunch bug is from firewire.
>
> If the drives were going to sleep, then you could go to lunch by
> leaving Logic looping some audio to keep the drives running, but when
> I've tested that I've found the error happens anyway.
>
> The strange thing is that I an do a bounce of a long track - as long
> as an hour even - without the don't go to lunch bug. but if I just
> leave a loop of a 3 minute song on play and let it go for a half hour
> or so, the bug appears.
>
> Maybe the combination of no keyboard and mouse activity, plus being
> in play mode and not record mode, is the condition to make it happen.
>
> I've also noticed that closing the song and reopening it later, is
> just as good as quitting and restarting Logic for stopping this bug.
>
> So lunch is now possible.
>
> But the bottom line is, FW drives seem to work fine,
>
> The LaCie are the ones I've been using - but they use mostly Maxtor
> drives inside - and Maxtor is now owned by Seagate - so it's just a
> question of which case style and interface you like.
>
> - Dave
>
>
>
>
> David Gordon
> Composer/Producer
> Sequoia Records
>
> http://www.sequoiarecords.com
>
>
>
> On Dec 30, 2006, at 12:08 AM, Andy Hardwake wrote:
>
> >
> > On Friday, December 29, 2006, at 4:12 PM, "Greg
Critchley"
> > <greg@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I use Lacie FW drives - suggestions? Are we off topic?
> >
> > Not really... I'm just trying to understand what may cause the
> > "don't go to
> > lunch" bug other than putting the CPU and HDs to sleep... I
was
> > thinking of
> > adding some FW drives to my setup (currently I have 4 internal ATA
> > drives).
> > Anyone else using FW drives still have the thing?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Andy
>
I have them installed yes. But beyond knowing that Logic Opens, and
I can record on DAE Tracks I know little else about compatibility. I
don't use the ESB either.
bd
On Jan 2, 2007, at 4:20 AM, gaeva2001 wrote:
> --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Colin Miller <logicuser@...>
wrote:
>>
>> I am. So far no problems, but it's still early.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:51 PM, ativity2003 wrote:
>>
>>> anyone try this yet?
>>>
>>> thx
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> Crashed my system ! But didn't do a clean install nor cancelled
> prefs ...
> Got to get more into it and in any case I'm still on my G4 1 Ghz MD
>
>
>
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I'm a bit hazy on this, mostly because I'm new to Logic via TDM. But
I can't get Indigo to be controlled by midi. I can use the EXS TDM
just fine, but if I replace the EXS with an Indigo, I can play it
with the mouse and I hear it, but I cannot play it from my
controller. What am I doing wrong?
-Evan Benjamin
Bob
Are you running that on a PPC or Intel mac?
- Dave
On Jan 4, 2007, at 7:34 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote:
> I have them installed yes. But beyond knowing that Logic Opens, and
> I can record on DAE Tracks I know little else about compatibility. I
> don't use the ESB either.
>
> bd
>
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 4:20 AM, gaeva2001 wrote:
>
>> --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Colin Miller
<logicuser@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am. So far no problems, but it's still early.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:51 PM, ativity2003 wrote:
>>>
>>>> anyone try this yet?
>>>>
>>>> thx
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> Crashed my system ! But didn't do a clean install nor cancelled
>> prefs ...
>> Got to get more into it and in any case I'm still on my G4 1 Ghz MD
Evan Benjamin <evanbenjamin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I can't get Indigo to be controlled by midi.
1) You need to create a [MIDI] instrument in the Environment.
From the Environment's local menu: New->Instrument.
2) Then you assign the "MIDI" port (in the Instrument Parameters
Box) to the Indigo in question (it will only appear AFTER you
have actually instanciated the Indigo on the TDM Aux track).
3) Then you cable the Aux that has the Indigo on it to this
instrument.
Now you can play MIDI on this Aux track in the Arrange.
It's also possible to skip step 2, but then you have to use
the MIDI instrument you created in Step 1 in the Arrange.
I don't like this method, because I like the fact that the same
track that has the MIDI on it will also have the actual audio
elements on it.
f-erenc szabo, smarty pants
Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T
"NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"
<http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
Gracias. Where is this in the manual?
On Jan 4, 2007, at 11:13 PM, f-erenc szabo wrote:
> Evan Benjamin <evanbenjamin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I can't get Indigo to be controlled by midi.
>
> 1) You need to create a [MIDI] instrument in the Environment.
> From the Environment's local menu: New->Instrument.
>
> 2) Then you assign the "MIDI" port (in the Instrument
Parameters
> Box) to the Indigo in question (it will only appear AFTER you
> have actually instanciated the Indigo on the TDM Aux track).
>
> 3) Then you cable the Aux that has the Indigo on it to this
> instrument.
>
> Now you can play MIDI on this Aux track in the Arrange.
>
> It's also possible to skip step 2, but then you have to use
> the MIDI instrument you created in Step 1 in the Arrange.
> I don't like this method, because I like the fact that the same
> track that has the MIDI on it will also have the actual audio
> elements on it.
>
>
>
> f-erenc szabo, smarty pants
> Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T
> "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"
> <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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PPC.
On Jan 4, 2007, at 7:57 PM, David Gordon wrote:
> Bob
>
> Are you running that on a PPC or Intel mac?
>
>
> - Dave
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2007, at 7:34 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote:
>
>> I have them installed yes. But beyond knowing that Logic Opens,
and
>> I can record on DAE Tracks I know little else about compatibility.
I
>> don't use the ESB either.
>>
>> bd
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2007, at 4:20 AM, gaeva2001 wrote:
>>
>>> --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Colin Miller
<logicuser@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am. So far no problems, but it's still early.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:51 PM, ativity2003 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> anyone try this yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> thx
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Crashed my system ! But didn't do a clean install nor cancelled
>>> prefs ...
>>> Got to get more into it and in any case I'm still on my G4 1
Ghz MD
>
>
>
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Hi guys i am using a intel mac quad PT hd2 7.2.3 a 192 i/o and a mackie
24 8bus with logic pro 7.3.2 and i am having the following problem.
everytime i record any audio through logic it clips like hell all over
the shot got my inputs as low as they will go and desk as low as it
will go but same problem. thought it was something wrong with my desk
so borrowed one still same problem. had digi look at the 192 and its
fine and works fine with protools. so i tried listening back to the
demo tracks that come with logic and what do you know my desk and 192
is clipping like hell. Anyone else had this problem? can it be
solved? stopped using logic at the moment for audio and using it only
for midi but want some of the facilities logic has got so would like to
solve this if possible PLEASE HELP
I've had some similiar issues. I don't clip as much but it does especially
when recording.
You are using COREAUDIO from DIGIDESIGN correct? I think the problem lies
in that. You have to make sure that the levels in logic don't hit or go
over
zero (for each track and for the master outs). That seems to help me a bit.
Not to suggest the obvious but have you checked the input /output
attenuation levels of the mackie and 192? Both should be set to 10 db.
Sounds to me like you have one at +4db.
--
Hi Benjamin
I believe the environment set up is described in the smaller ³getting
started with Logic 7² booklet. I don¹t use indigo but know with
other VI¹s
you may have to assign midi channels on the instruments info pane in the
arrange window to correspond to the midi channel available on the VI>
(eg
with stormdrum you can load six different patches and assign each a
different midi channel so that the controller info, vol etc only effects
the one patch and not the sampler globally)
--
Hi there skylabfilmpop how would i check this. sorry this was obvious
to you but i have never come across this problem before and have no
idea on how to set the levels on either piece of equipment as was a
pt digi 001 user on pc before upgrading 4mnths ago so any help would
be apreciated.
--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, skylabfilmpop <skylabfilmpop@...>
wrote:
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> Not to suggest the obvious but have you checked the input /output
> attenuation levels of the mackie and 192? Both should be set to
10
db.
> Sounds to me like you have one at +4db.
Hey JP
I am using a MIX system so there may be slight differences but the hardware
setup menu should have 10/+4 preferences in it although it is usually
defaulted to +4. You might check the mackie first as if it is putting out
10 settings you¹d get overloads as the board would be boosting its
output.
I am sure the 192 has additional per channel attenuation settings which you
can use in conjunction with the signal generator plug in to zero your board.
I can¹t remember clearly but digital zero is 16 (-14_?) db 1kz
tone. As
the other poster mentioned this might be a digi coreaudio driver goof as it
has been notoriously quirky. Does it overload in protools as well or only
in Logic while running coreaudio?
Thanks, It just seems like inconsistent behaviour.
On Jan 5, 2007, at 12:26 PM, skylabfilmpop wrote:
> Hi Benjamin
>
> I believe the environment set up is described in the smaller “getting
> started with Logic 7” booklet. I don’t use indigo but know with
> other VI’s
> you may have to assign midi channels on the instruments info pane
> in the
> arrange window to correspond to the midi channel available on the
> VI> (eg
> with stormdrum you can load six different patches and assign each a
> different midi channel so that the controller info, vol etc only
> effects
> the one patch and not the sampler globally)
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it only overloads in logic using core audio
thanks for all you help so far i have managed to reduce the incidents
since my last post but would be greatfull any advice anyone can offer
and has kind of put my back up with logic which is a shame as i like
the software imensley wish they could get the dtdm sorted out as i
have a feeling this will solve a lot of problems and will probably
convert a lot of pro tools users
--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, skylabfilmpop <skylabfilmpop@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey JP
>
> I am using a MIX system so there may be slight differences but the
hardware
> setup menu should have 10/+4 preferences in it although it is
usually
> defaulted to +4. You might check the mackie first as if it is
putting out
> 10 settings you¹d get overloads as the board would be
boosting its
output.
> I am sure the 192 has additional per channel attenuation settings
which you
> can use in conjunction with the signal generator plug in to zero
your board.
> I can¹t remember clearly but digital zero is 16 (-14_?) db
1kz
tone. As
> the other poster mentioned this might be a digi coreaudio driver
goof as it
> has been notoriously quirky. Does it overload in protools as well
or only
> in Logic while running coreaudio?
hi mate yes been doing that as standard anyway but still clipping all
over is a real problem and is making me think that i should look at
only using PT as my audio frontend and i,porting midi that ha been made
in logic
--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, khaarmeyer@... wrote:
>
> I've had some similiar issues. I don't clip as much but it does
especially
> when recording.
>
> You are using COREAUDIO from DIGIDESIGN correct? I think the
problem lies
> in that. You have to make sure that the levels in logic don't hit
or go over
> zero (for each track and for the master outs). That seems to help me
a bit.
The manual says that Logic looks at what audio engine was last used,
looks at whats available, and changes everything over automatically.
Magic!!
I got this to work once, and I don't know how. Otherwise, it doesn't
switch automatically. I used Core Audio on old songs, and am looking
to switch to DTDM and DAE.
-Evan Benjamin
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