Anyone got this running well? mine sucks

What do you mean? How does it suck? What is your hardware setup? On Nov 22, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Peter Davis wrote: > Message posted by Peter Davis <pete_davis@mac.com>: > > Anyone got this running well? > > mine sucks

I have HD2XL / 192 / 96i G5 dual 2.5 os 10.4.8 everytime dtdm overloads it crashes, I've been crashing every 10mins, sometimes after a crash logic has to run the AU validation process again which is 15 mins of tedium. It's generally rubbish & I'd love to know how to get it stable. I rebuilt my autoload which seems to help, though right now I'm working on an old session, so it's hard to tell if the new autoload would help. The new, small sessions I've built seem ok, but this older session, which is big is a total nightmare. Was running perfectly on 7.1 / OS10.3.9 /PT6.4 a classic stable combo. Any insights much appreciated -thanks Do you have 7.2.3. /7.2cs2 running well? p

I would advise downgrading back to pro tools 7.1 if you can. Seems to be ten ton of problems with 7.2 and the logic intergration.

Thanks for this, Is LP7.2.3 / PT7.1 stable? --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Piers Bailey" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Piers Bailey <baronproductions@...>: > > I would advise downgrading back to pro tools 7.1 if you can. Seems to be ten ton of problems with 7.2 and the logic intergration. >

LP7.2.3& PT7.2.... DONT WORK..I HAD SO MANY PROBLEMS ON A MIX ..WITH DAE DROPING OUT ....AND MANY OTHER ISSUES.. FOR EXAMPLE...THERE WAS NO AUDIO PLAYING WHEN AUTO INPUT WAS TICKED OF....INSTALLED 7.1 AND SEEMS TO BE OK

Hello, Does anyone know what the difference is between a pro tools hd2 or hd3 system and a native macintosh systeme using the apogee symphony stuff? I know what is being claimed by apogee, but I do not know what the statistics are for pro tools hd. Also, it seems to me that there would be other variables as well. Does anyone know anything about this stuff? Faithful regards

On Nov 20, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Peter Duemmler wrote: > It´s a Logic bug, not a Digi one. > Go tell Apple.. Well, it was working fine before, then Digidesign changed something in 7.2 that broke it. I'd lay this on Digidesign's doorstep. Although it may work well within itself, PT is one gigantic kludge. Lee Blaske

Digi is changing DAE all the time, it´s their driver. Apple is informed about the changes AFAIK. BTW: PT is working absolutely great and - most important - absolutely tight. Logic is a timing mess these days. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Am 25.11.2006 um 16:43 schrieb Lee Blaske: > On Nov 20, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Peter Duemmler wrote: > >> It´s a Logic bug, not a Digi one. >> Go tell Apple.. > > Well, it was working fine before, then Digidesign changed something > in 7.2 that broke it. I'd lay this on Digidesign's doorstep. Although > it may work well within itself, PT is one gigantic kludge. > > Lee Blaske

sell the protools and go native. Logic native with a motu 24 i/o works just as well and is relatively crash safe. check these articles http://www.tobygad.com/pdf/letters_to_mix_01.pdf http://www.tobygad.com/pdf/recording_magazine_july_05.pdf been there and never looked back (-:

> Message posted by tobias Gad <toby.gad@...>: "sell the protools and go native." hmmm....only if latency is not an issue for you... with a DAE engine in Logic, I can plug in a guitar, instanciate AmpFarm (or other amp sim), then an EQ, then a compressor,then maybe another EQ, all on the the track I am recording to....the latency is so low it does not affect the playing. I recently did a similar thing at a friends studio running logic native with motu. It was impossible to play in the groove, the latency was a major impediment. I ended up playing with just the DI sound of the guitar (no plugs) and there was still enough latency to be a drag. And this guy had his setup tweaked pretty well. Players requiring plugs need to hear their sound as it's being recorded. Apogee Ensemble with the Symphony cards may allow Digi-like latency values I hear, but Motu definitely does not. Digi or Apple will fix this current hitch, as they always do, (and another will come along), but the pay off if well worth any of these problems..DAE running in Logic IS the ultimate composing/recording setup, IMHO. Mark --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "tobias Gad" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by tobias Gad <toby.gad@...>: > > sell the protools and go native. Logic native with a motu 24 i/o works just as well and is relatively crash safe. > check these articles > http://www.tobygad.com/pdf/letters_to_mix_01.pdf > http://www.tobygad.com/pdf/recording_magazine_july_05.pdf > been there and never looked back (-: >

I have been enjoying/learning a great deal from this group, and I appreciate all the knowledge I have gained from all your posts. I am new to Logic. I have been using DP for years. I am trying to figure out if I can make the switch to Logic for a big project I have coming up. I was wondering if anyone out there has developed a custom key commands set that as closely as possible follows the Pro Tools key commands, and of course would you be willing to share your work. I know that Logic allows you to set the key commands to "Pro Tools", but this only does some key commands, for instance the number pad still calls up Logic windows, not the transport functions that PT uses. The reason I am wondering is that I was Pro Tools operator certified this summer, so that I can teach these classes at my school (South Plains College), and I want to get expert certified as soon as possible. I don't want to confuse my little brain with multiple key commands at this time. I want to concentrate on learning all the PT commands, and if I can reinforce those commands when working in Logic, I think that will help. Thanks, Chris Neal :: Elephant Media Productions cneal@elephantmedia.com

I don't speak from experience, as I have owned and used ProTools hardware since 1993, but I have attempted a few times to use native systems with the same results as Mark. I just found it to be unusable. I know there are those out there who have tweaked their systems and found ways around the latency issues, designing their own zero latency monitoring setups etc., but I have been spoiled by years of almost no latency and have found my few experiences with native recording to be frustrating. Chris Neal :: Elephant Media Productions cneal@elephantmedia.com

Right. Additionally if you are a heavy VI user, and work internally to the cpu for the most part, the latence is not really a significant issue as all VI¹s and ESX are latent especially compared to PT. Its those of us who use both VI¹s and heavy audio tracks that experience the timing frustrations. --

As far as I know LP 7.2- is not comp. w/ PT 7.2 check Digi site for comp. info ps . native is suppose to work but latency is a problem On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:01 AM, filternerd wrote: > Thanks for this, > > Is LP7.2.3 / PT7.1 stable? > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Piers Bailey" <forums@...> wrote: > > > > Message posted by Piers Bailey <baronproductions@...>: > > > > I would advise downgrading back to pro tools 7.1 if you can. > Seems to be ten ton of > problems with 7.2 and the logic intergration. > > > > >

Logic 7.2 is supported in PT 7.2..just leave Auto-Input enabled in Logic http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid0&navidq&itemidG67&ac tion=news_details --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, John Cevetello <tonemaster@...> wrote: > > As far as I know LP 7.2- is not comp. w/ PT 7.2 check Digi site for > comp. info > ps . native is suppose to work but latency is a problem > On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:01 AM, filternerd wrote: > > > Thanks for this, > > > > Is LP7.2.3 / PT7.1 stable? > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Piers Bailey" <forums@> wrote: > > > > > > Message posted by Piers Bailey <baronproductions@>: > > > > > > I would advise downgrading back to pro tools 7.1 if you can. > > Seems to be ten ton of > > problems with 7.2 and the logic intergration.

Can you not just set up the remaining Pt key commands needed in Logic manually?

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Piers Bailey" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Piers Bailey <baronproductions@...>: > > Can you not just set up the remaining Pt key commands needed in Logic manually? > Obviously I could set them up myself manually. What I was asking is if someone had already gone to the trouble of setting up such a key command setup and would be willing to share it.

When you install Logic you are asked what kind of key commands setting you want. AFAIR there already is a PT key command set in there... but I don´t know how complete it is. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ---- Original Message ---- From: "Christopher Neal" <cneal@elephantmedia.net> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:34 AM Subject: [L-TDM] Re: key commands > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Piers Bailey" <forums@...> wrote: >> >> Message posted by Piers Bailey <baronproductions@...>: >> >> Can you not just set up the remaining Pt key commands needed in > Logic manually? >> > > Obviously I could set them up myself manually. What I was asking is if > someone had already gone to the trouble of setting up such a key > command setup and would be willing to share it.

So today I try the Export Tracks as Audio and guess what. They sound fine?!? So now I will proceed as if Export Tracks as Audio really does work. I'll just keep an eye on the process by inverting and canceling out at least one of the tracks to verify everythings solid... Strange. bd --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@...> wrote: > > Everything I didn't really want to spend 2 hours on sorting out with > Logic. Frankly I'm really surprised. Normally I don't need to export > audio, I just happened to try it for the sake of trying it. But I do > have clients who use it... > > Export: Track as Audio. > Does not include volume information > Is not Delay Compensated > Does not nullify when reimported and inverted > > Using Logic: Helper: I/O plug-in - to bus tracks internally > Does not include volume information > Audio Recorded is not Delay Compensated > Was able to adjust recording delay in preferences using > click to measure samples. > Does not Nullify when line up and inverted. > > Bouncing > Using Dither to 24 bits > Does nullify when reimported and inverted > > > The non-bouncing exports are rolling off high end gradually. It's > bizarre to me why. > > >

hello all I have been having real problems with the glue tool recently. basically it seems to not work more than it does work, and I cannot figure out what makes it work or not. I think it used to be that it only worked on the first of the selected audio interfaces, ie - you could only glue DAE tracks and not DTDM tracks..... but now it seems somehow related to the number or order of chops you do on a piece of audio. I am at a loss :( Any help greatly appreciated thanks Matt 6.4.3 - os9 - DAE 5.3

hello - does anybody know if a way to have a fixed ms delay on midi output tracks? I know I can set the delay to display ms - but then it changes with tempo... Im looking for a FIXED output predelay for MIDI stuff.... thanks a lot in advance for your help Matt

Am I the only one who is EXTREMELY upset with Apple support right now with LOGIC and TDM and the way they respond to their PRO users? After upgrading to a Mac Pro, PT HD2 system, and LOGIC PRO, I find out through this forum (not from Apple) that TDM is not supported with the new INTEL MACS and they will have no idea when an update will be favailable. An update, by the way, I was told I might have to pay for, even though it is advertised to be working now. The thing is, before upgrading I specifically asked them about TDM and the MAC PRO and was told everything works. When I called Apple today, after 30 minutes of waiting for an answer, they said there is nothing they could do. Sorry about the RANT. Can anyone give me an idea how I can access my older sessions with TDM plugs, like EXS24TDM, and find out what the presets where? Without DAE available you cannot open the plugins.

No, you're not the only one and I'm totally with you on this. I recently upgraded to a Mac Pro and PT HD2 and I had every right to expect this system to be compatible, based on the information available on Apple's website at that time. I know that the current incompatibility is not Apple's fault, but the fact that they knew about the problem and chose not to mention it to potential upgraders was absolutely disgraceful.

You are not alone. And this is for sure an Apple issue, not Digi - there is an announcement about it on the Digi website on the compatibility page. Here is the text from Digi: > Although Logic Pro 7.2 is a universal version that runs natively on > both Intel- and PowerPC-based Mac systems, Logic Pro 7.2 is not yet > compatible in DAE mode with Pro Tools HD 7.2.1 for Intel-based Mac > Pro systems. > In order to use Logic Pro with Digidesign hardware on Intel-based > Macs, the Digidesign CoreAudio Driver must be used instead of DAE > mode in Logic. > Logic Pro will require a future update from Apple to support Pro > Tools HD DAE for Intel-based Macs. I've done a bunch of research on this and after a lot of digging got some info from insiders at Apple. Apple does not offer a specific date for fixing this bug, but they are very aware of it and consider it important. My contact told me that their goal is to have it fixed before NAMM (mid-January), because they don't want a bunch of angry users thronging their booth at NAMM while they try and sell their new versions. Even better, he said that while 7.2.3 definitely does NOT work with TDM on the Mac Pro, some users have found a way to get it to work. The workaround is to uninstall Lotic 7.2.3 and then install Logic 7.2.0 or 7.2.1 but not to update past version 7.2.1. Those earlier versions may work with TDM. (Make sure to instal Pro Tools 7.2.1 first.) Those earlier versions of Logic only use 2 of the 4 CPU cores in the Mac Pro. When Apple "fixed" Logic to use all 4 of the dual intel duo cores, the TDM functionality was broken. So it may work, but the native side will be hobbled a bit by only having two cores to work with. Still, that's way better than no TDM! I have not tested this yet - am planning to give it a go in the next few days and will report the results. Meanwhile, if anyone else tries this, please report the results here! - Dave On Dec 4, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Richard Bull wrote: > Message posted by Richard Bull <higherground@btinternet.com>: > > No, you're not the only one and I'm totally with you on this. I > recently upgraded to a Mac Pro and PT HD2 and I had every right to > expect this system to be compatible, based on the information > available on Apple's website at that time. I know that the current > incompatibility is not Apple's fault, but the fact that they knew > about the problem and chose not to mention it to potential > upgraders was absolutely disgraceful. > On Dec 4, 2006, at 11:36 AM, khaarmeyer wrote: > Am I the only one who is EXTREMELY upset with Apple support right > now with LOGIC and > TDM and the way they respond to their PRO users? > > After upgrading to a Mac Pro, PT HD2 system, and LOGIC PRO, I find > out through this forum > (not from Apple) that TDM is not supported with the new INTEL MACS > and they will have no > idea when an update will be favailable. An update, by the way, I > was told I might have to pay > for, even though it is advertised to be working now. > > The thing is, before upgrading I specifically asked them about TDM > and the MAC PRO and > was told everything works. > > When I called Apple today, after 30 minutes of waiting for an > answer, they said there is > nothing they could do. > > Sorry about the RANT. > > Can anyone give me an idea how I can access my older sessions with > TDM plugs, like > EXS24TDM, and find out what the presets where? Without DAE > available you cannot open the > plugins. > >