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From: Will Thomson <will@dynamicaudio.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 at 7:30:37 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Export tracks as Audio issue? or Dither?
Message #24401
This is a reply to #24396.
> Or better yet, does anyone know exactly why the sound is so different if it's > not related to dithering? Exactly, how can dithering (which is affecting the lowest bits of a signal, well below -100db for 24-bit, even 20-bit) possibly affect the "Hi end" and "mids", unless you're listening to detail at -100db which I would doubt! OTOH, there has been much discussion on the differences, real or imaginary, between Logic's and Pro Tool's mixing algorithms. Maybe check past forum posts on this subject? (although how you'd proceed I wouldn't know, other than actually mixing in Logic if you prefer the sound). Will
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 at 8:25:26 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Export tracks as Audio issue? or Dither?
Message #24402
This is a reply to #24400.
Funny thing is, the specific mix that I bounced out sounded fine when brought into Pro Tools. I don't have any issues with the quality of the 2 mix. I used Logic to dither it on bounce. It was fine. I wanted to see what it would sound like If I made stems so I exported all the tracks as audio to bring into PT. Now I'm trying to figure out what's really going on with that. bd On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:47 PM, skylabfilmpop wrote: > Sounds like the bounce to disk issue which is universal to all > audio apps > IMO. Try looping back outputs of 1/2 into the inputs of 3/4 via > aes/ebu and > set up a stereo track with 3/4 as input. Record enable and capture > your mix > this way as opposed to bouncing. You can use JAM or CD Masterlist > to convert > to a 16 bit CD if needed too. > -- > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 at 8:27:09 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Export tracks as Audio issue? or Dither?
Message #24403
This is a reply to #24401.
Well, When I'm doing the mixing that is what I do. To me Logic sounds great. I've always hated how it sounded once a song was transferred to PT. But sometimes I need to provide tracks for someone else to work with. In those cases I'd like them to at least have exactly what I have... bd On Oct 17, 2006, at 5:30 PM, Will Thomson wrote: >> Or better yet, does anyone know exactly why the sound is so >> different if it's >> not related to dithering? > > Exactly, how can dithering (which is affecting the lowest bits of a > signal, > well below -100db for 24-bit, even 20-bit) possibly affect the "Hi > end" and > "mids", unless you're listening to detail at -100db which I would > doubt! > OTOH, there has been much discussion on the differences, real or > imaginary, > between Logic's and Pro Tool's mixing algorithms. Maybe check past > forum > posts on this subject? (although how you'd proceed I wouldn't know, > other > than actually mixing in Logic if you prefer the sound). > > Will > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 at 10:16:59 PM
Subject: [L-TDM] Exporting Conclusions.
Message #24404
Everything I didn't really want to spend 2 hours on sorting out with Logic. Frankly I'm really surprised. Normally I don't need to export audio, I just happened to try it for the sake of trying it. But I do have clients who use it... Export: Track as Audio. Does not include volume information Is not Delay Compensated Does not nullify when reimported and inverted Using Logic: Helper: I/O plug-in - to bus tracks internally Does not include volume information Audio Recorded is not Delay Compensated Was able to adjust recording delay in preferences using click to measure samples. Does not Nullify when line up and inverted. Bouncing Using Dither to 24 bits Does nullify when reimported and inverted The non-bouncing exports are rolling off high end gradually. It's bizarre to me why.
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From: David Gordon <music-pro@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 at 1:10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Exporting Conclusions.
Message #24405
This is a reply to #24404.
Hi Bob What you found here is pretty much what I was getting at. It's unfortunate because it won't do all the tracks at once but at least you have a workaround now. I really don't get the point of including functions like Export Track as Audio when they just plain don't work! - Dave On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: > Everything I didn't really want to spend 2 hours on sorting out with > Logic. Frankly I'm really surprised. Normally I don't need to export > audio, I just happened to try it for the sake of trying it. But I do > have clients who use it... > > Export: Track as Audio. > Does not include volume information > Is not Delay Compensated > Does not nullify when reimported and inverted > > Using Logic: Helper: I/O plug-in - to bus tracks internally > Does not include volume information > Audio Recorded is not Delay Compensated > Was able to adjust recording delay in preferences using > click to measure samples. > Does not Nullify when line up and inverted. > > Bouncing > Using Dither to 24 bits > Does nullify when reimported and inverted > > > The non-bouncing exports are rolling off high end gradually. It's > bizarre to me why. >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 at 1:21:22 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Exporting Conclusions.
Message #24406
This is a reply to #24405.
indeed... sorry to be so late to the party... As side note to this issue. I wonder if it has anything to do with offline bouncing, which I've grown to completely distrust. It never sounds as good. Doesn't matter what application. Pro Tools, Peak, Audiosuite, 32bit float, 48 bit fixed whatever. When applying compression, reverb, or delay, if keeping the audio at it's highest fidelity is important, than avoid offline processing. best, bd On Oct 17, 2006, at 11:10 PM, David Gordon wrote: > Hi Bob > > What you found here is pretty much what I was getting at. It's > unfortunate because it won't do all the tracks at once but at least > you have a workaround now. > > I really don't get the point of including functions like Export Track > as Audio when they just plain don't work! > > - Dave > > > > > > On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: > >> Everything I didn't really want to spend 2 hours on sorting out with >> Logic. Frankly I'm really surprised. Normally I don't need to export >> audio, I just happened to try it for the sake of trying it. But I do >> have clients who use it... >> >> Export: Track as Audio. >> Does not include volume information >> Is not Delay Compensated >> Does not nullify when reimported and inverted >> >> Using Logic: Helper: I/O plug-in - to bus tracks internally >> Does not include volume information >> Audio Recorded is not Delay Compensated >> Was able to adjust recording delay in preferences using >> click to measure samples. >> Does not Nullify when line up and inverted. >> >> Bouncing >> Using Dither to 24 bits >> Does nullify when reimported and inverted >> >> >> The non-bouncing exports are rolling off high end gradually. It's >> bizarre to me why. >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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From: David Gordon <music-pro@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 at 2:27:15 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Exporting Conclusions.
Message #24407
This is a reply to #24406.
I agree with you Bob. I am also avoid offline bouncing. I wonder if the presence of real-time clocking adds some sort of stability to the process. Mathematically, there should be no difference - if the algorithms are perfect that is - they should be able to perfectly simulate sample accurate timing. But maybe the programmers don't have that pegged yet. Maybe the presence of the real-time clock adds a stabilizing factor to the calculations. For one thing, with real time bouncing, the stakes for the software company are much higher. It has to be just right because if not, we'd hear the problem right away, while it's happening. Offline bouncing is supposed to save us time, but if we can't trust the results and have to listen and test, it ends up taking even longer anyway. - Dave David Gordon Composer/Producer Sequoia Records http://www.sequoiarecords.com On Oct 17, 2006, at 11:21 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: > indeed... sorry to be so late to the party... > > As side note to this issue. I wonder if it has anything to do with > offline bouncing, which I've grown to completely distrust. It never > sounds as good. Doesn't matter what application. Pro Tools, Peak, > Audiosuite, 32bit float, 48 bit fixed whatever. When applying > compression, reverb, or delay, if keeping the audio at it's highest > fidelity is important, than avoid offline processing. > > best, > > bd > > On Oct 17, 2006, at 11:10 PM, David Gordon wrote: > >> Hi Bob >> >> What you found here is pretty much what I was getting at. It's >> unfortunate because it won't do all the tracks at once but at least >> you have a workaround now. >> >> I really don't get the point of including functions like Export Track >> as Audio when they just plain don't work! >> >> - Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: >> >>> Everything I didn't really want to spend 2 hours on sorting out with >>> Logic. Frankly I'm really surprised. Normally I don't need to export >>> audio, I just happened to try it for the sake of trying it. But I do >>> have clients who use it... >>> >>> Export: Track as Audio. >>> Does not include volume information >>> Is not Delay Compensated >>> Does not nullify when reimported and inverted >>> >>> Using Logic: Helper: I/O plug-in - to bus tracks internally >>> Does not include volume information >>> Audio Recorded is not Delay Compensated >>> Was able to adjust recording delay in preferences using >>> click to measure samples. >>> Does not Nullify when line up and inverted. >>> >>> Bouncing >>> Using Dither to 24 bits >>> Does nullify when reimported and inverted >>> >>> >>> The non-bouncing exports are rolling off high end gradually. It's >>> bizarre to me why. >>> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> __ >> Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- >> TDM >> - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ >> search >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 at 10:12:39 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Re: G5 Optical Out
Message #24408
Posted by: "Bob DeMaa" bobdemaa@mac.com bmdps Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:05 pm (PST) > One advantage I can think of over the G5's optical, is not having to > reset the sync every time the computer is booted. This drives the > composers batty. It wouldn't bother me personally... There's a free utility called LineIn from Rogue Amoeba Software that remembers the sync settings. It's much easier to stick it in the dock and run it than to go to the Sound control panel every time. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101
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From: "Mike Greene" <fresh38@pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 at 11:39:30 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Re: Wizoo-Latigo
Message #24409
This is a reply to #24394.
Jan, I had the same problem with Latigo and Darbuka when I first installed them. Logic would immediately crash on booting. I think the fix was to just get the newer updates of them from Wizoo. This was back when I was on Mac OS 10.3. They still work perfectly with no problems now on OS 10.4. But I'm still on Logic 7.1 with last year's ProTools version. The rest of my system (PT HD3Accel and G5 dual2.5) is similar to yours, so rest assured it is doable. If you still have problems, I can check the exact version numbers of everything.. - Mike Greene --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Jan Stevens <janstevensmusic@...> wrote: > > Hi All, > > My system is mostly Rock Solid. I bought Latigo from Wizoo/M-Audio, > which is a groovy Latin Percussion plug-in, and after installation of > Latigo Logic would not load and I would get the complete Kernal > Crashes. If I un-installed the plug-in and removed all files having > to do with the program then my system was fine again (only after > repairing permissions). A friend of my who has a Native Logic set-up > has no problems. Has anyone experienced this with Latigo or Darbuka > and TDM? Any solutions? > > Dual 2.0 G5 (PPC) OSX 10.4.6 PT 7.1 Logic 7.2.1 HD2 with Core, > Accel and Process card. > > JS >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 at 1:07:21 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: G5 Optical Out
Message #24410
This is a reply to #24408.
Sweet, I'll check it out. Thanks Nick. bd On Oct 18, 2006, at 8:12 AM, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > Posted by: "Bob DeMaa" bobdemaa@mac.com bmdps > Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:05 pm (PST) > >> One advantage I can think of over the G5's optical, is not having to >> reset the sync every time the computer is booted. This drives the >> composers batty. It wouldn't bother me personally... > > There's a free utility called LineIn from Rogue Amoeba Software that > remembers the sync settings. It's much easier to stick it in the dock > and run it than to go to the Sound control panel every time.
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From: "Musique Non Stop" <fairclavier@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 at 7:54:41 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] - Waves SSL troubles
Message #24411
I've just installed Waves SSL Bundle (TDM) and it works fine in ProTools but I have problems in instancing it in Logic 7.2. It appears as a white plug in and I can't use it? Anyone experiencing the same problem or could anyone guess the cure to it? Best regards, Sven
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From: Trackrec1@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 at 6:13:33 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Re: - Waves SSL troubles
Message #24412
I think that is a bug that seems to occur with Logic and the waves SSL plugins. Try re -instanciating the plugin after you get the blank interface, and it should be ok the second time around. It ealways works for me. Good luck! Michael. TRE Ltd Tel:+44(0)2089 231274(UK) Tel:+44(0)7770 447166(UK cell) Tel:+1310 933 5506(US)
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From: "Musique Non Stop" <fairclavier@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 at 9:31:18 AM
Subject: RE: [L-TDM] Re: - Waves SSL troubles
Message #24413
This is a reply to #24412.
Hi Michael, Many thanks for your suggestions, but I've tried re-instancing the plug in with no success. I will try it again. Best regards, Sven _____ From: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trackrec1@aol.com Sent: 20 October 2006 13:14 To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com Subject: [L-TDM] Re: - Waves SSL troubles I think that is a bug that seems to occur with Logic and the waves SSL plugins. Try re -instanciating the plugin after you get the blank interface, and it should be ok the second time around. It ealways works for me. Good luck! Michael. TRE Ltd Tel:+44(0)2089 231274(UK) Tel:+44(0)7770 447166(UK cell) Tel:+1310 933 5506(US)
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From: Ran Bagno <bagno@netvision.net.il>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 at 9:17:40 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: - Waves SSL troubles
Message #24414
This is a reply to #24412.
it is a known bug. seems like something that waves are not rushing to fix. they have this with all latest plugins. The Plugins work fine anyway. On Oct 20, 2006, at 1:13 PM, Trackrec1@aol.com wrote: > I think that is a bug that seems to occur with Logic and the waves SSL > plugins. Try re -instanciating the plugin after you get the blank > interface, and > it should be ok the second time around. It ealways works for me. > Good luck! > > Michael. > > TRE Ltd > Tel:+44(0)2089 231274(UK) > Tel:+44(0)7770 447166(UK cell) > Tel:+1310 933 5506(US) > > >
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From: "erockerboy" <erockerboy@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 10:48:27 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Digi expansion chassis?
Message #24415
Is anyone here successfully using a Digidesign expansion chassis to house their PTHD cards? Any pros/cons? How's the stability? I am trying to figure out how to add a host SATA adapter for additional HD storage, and need to free up a PCI slot to do so. The expansion chassis looks like one of the few options available to me at this point. Would love to hear from anyone currently using one. Thanks in advance!
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From: Philliph McMurtry <phill@midearthmusic.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 1:13:05 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Digi expansion chassis?
Message #24416
This is a reply to #24415.
Roll on Mac Pro (or Macs in general!) having more PCI slots....the 9600 Powermac had 7 slots.....it was great. A bit dated now though! Sorry, just had to comment but not terribly helpful regarding your query. In case you are unaware, SATA II is latest storage solution which is double the speed of SATA, it's at 3Gbps (375MB/s) Interface speed as opposed to 1.5Gbps (187.5MB/s). Just wittering on......... Phill On 21 Oct 2006, at 16:48, erockerboy wrote: > Is anyone here successfully using a Digidesign expansion chassis to > house their PTHD cards? > > Any pros/cons? How's the stability? > > I am trying to figure out how to add a host SATA adapter for > additional > HD storage, and need to free up a PCI slot to do so. The expansion > chassis looks like one of the few options available to me at this > point. Would love to hear from anyone currently using one. Thanks in > advance! > > >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 2:51:06 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Digi expansion chassis?
Message #24417
This is a reply to #24415.
I don't use the Digidesign Chassis specifically, but I've used all sorts of Magma chassis and currently use one now with an HD2 and G5 dual 2.7. PT 7.2, Logic 7.2 and OS X 10.4.8. Magma support is good as well. I think the new Digidesign chassis are handled and designed by Digi proper, but at one point in time they were in bed with Magma, and actually were initially re-branding magma chassis as Dig. best, Bob On Oct 21, 2006, at 8:48 AM, erockerboy wrote: > Is anyone here successfully using a Digidesign expansion chassis to > house their PTHD cards? > > Any pros/cons? How's the stability? > > I am trying to figure out how to add a host SATA adapter for > additional > HD storage, and need to free up a PCI slot to do so. The expansion > chassis looks like one of the few options available to me at this > point. Would love to hear from anyone currently using one. Thanks in > advance! > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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From: Judson <motu@judsoncrane.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 3:20:21 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Digi expansion chassis?
Message #24418
This is a reply to #24415.
I bought one to use with Logic and Protools and couldn't get it to work with Logic....its possible that its because I had ESB enabled--I read that they are not compatible but I haven't tried it again since. You must use Protools 7.1 and it supposedly increases your RTAS/TDM latency time with virtual instruments (only in record mode, it is compensated on playback). -Judson On Oct 21, 2006, at 11:48 AM, erockerboy wrote: > Is anyone here successfully using a Digidesign expansion chassis to > house their PTHD cards? > > Any pros/cons? How's the stability? > > I am trying to figure out how to add a host SATA adapter for > additional > HD storage, and need to free up a PCI slot to do so. The expansion > chassis looks like one of the few options available to me at this > point. Would love to hear from anyone currently using one. Thanks in > advance! > > >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 5:59:28 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: - Waves SSL troubles
Message #24419
This is a reply to #24414.
I'm no coder, but the problem is "related to" what the plug-in is requesting for graphics. There are 2 kinds of requests an AU plug-in can make. One is old, which apple is not supporting or using anymore, and one is new. Sounds to me like the Waves SSL plug-ins are making the wrong request for your configuration. It's not a difficult fix from what I understand, which when it comes to code is not much... to paraphrase, I don't think there is anything you can do about it. Are other Logic users complaining of this in the waves forums? bd On Oct 20, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Ran Bagno wrote: > it is a known bug. seems like something that waves are not rushing > to fix. they have this with all latest plugins. The Plugins work fine > anyway. > > On Oct 20, 2006, at 1:13 PM, Trackrec1@aol.com wrote: > >> I think that is a bug that seems to occur with Logic and the waves >> SSL >> plugins. Try re -instanciating the plugin after you get the blank >> interface, and >> it should be ok the second time around. It ealways works for me. >> Good luck!
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From: Victor Pozas <victorpozas@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 6:22:15 PM
Subject: [L-TDM] Help....
Message #24420
Hi Friends! Could anyone please help? I decided to drop DTDM and go the motu 828 way... Wich DAE and PT7 works best for the following configuration? Logic Pro 7.2.3 G4 dual 1.42 1.5 Gb ram Pro Tools HD2 Motu 828 Thanks everyone! Victor
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 6:40:20 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Digi expansion chassis?
Message #24421
This is a reply to #24418.
Judson,weren't you using a mix+ system with a powerbook? I thought we sorted it out that the issue was related to using the Mix+ cards specifically with the powerbook. I've used HD cards with both G5 and Powerbook and Chassis with ESB enabled. There's no issue with ESB and Chassis specifically that I have ever encountered. bd On Oct 21, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Judson wrote: > I bought one to use with Logic and Protools and couldn't get it to > work with Logic....its possible that its because I had ESB enabled--I > read that they are not compatible but I haven't tried it again > since. You must use Protools 7.1 and it supposedly increases your > RTAS/TDM latency time with virtual instruments (only in record mode, > it is compensated on playback). > > -Judson > > On Oct 21, 2006, at 11:48 AM, erockerboy wrote: > >> Is anyone here successfully using a Digidesign expansion chassis to >> house their PTHD cards? >> >> Any pros/cons? How's the stability? >> >> I am trying to figure out how to add a host SATA adapter for >> additional >> HD storage, and need to free up a PCI slot to do so. The expansion >> chassis looks like one of the few options available to me at this >> point. Would love to hear from anyone currently using one. Thanks in >> advance! >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 6:43:34 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Help....
Message #24422
This is a reply to #24420.
I just set this very system up for a client. PT 7.2.x and whatever the current 828 driver is on the MOTU site. bd On Oct 21, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Victor Pozas wrote: > Hi Friends! > > Could anyone please help? > > I decided to drop DTDM and go the motu 828 way... > > Wich DAE and PT7 works best for the following configuration? > > Logic Pro 7.2.3 > G4 dual 1.42 1.5 Gb ram > Pro Tools HD2 > Motu 828 > > Thanks everyone! > > Victor > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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From: brio taliaferro <lists@brio.nildram.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 7:34:28 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Help....
Message #24423
This is a reply to #24422.
I would stick with PT 7.1.x if you occasionally like to have auto input monitoring switched OFF. Digidesign changed something in 7.2 that LOGIC has not yet reacted to, AFAIK. The effect is that auto input monitoring has to be switched ON in LOGIC at all times, when using DAE 7.2. Brio On 22 Oct 2006, at 00:43, Bob DeMaa wrote: > I just set this very system up for a client. > > PT 7.2.x and whatever the current 828 driver is on the MOTU site. > > bd > > > On Oct 21, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Victor Pozas wrote: > >> Hi Friends! >> >> Could anyone please help? >> >> I decided to drop DTDM and go the motu 828 way... >> >> Wich DAE and PT7 works best for the following configuration? >> >> Logic Pro 7.2.3 >> G4 dual 1.42 1.5 Gb ram >> Pro Tools HD2 >> Motu 828 >> >> Thanks everyone! >> >> Victor >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> __ >> Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- >> TDM >> - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ >> search >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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From: Judson <motu@judsoncrane.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 7:41:13 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Digi expansion chassis?
Message #24424
This is a reply to #24421.
nope, wasn't me....this is the new digidesign expansion chassis HD that I'm talking about. Same chassis? This is the text from the Digi tech article: Logic Pro with Expansion|HD Chassis Logic Pro 7.2 DAE is supported with the Digidesign Expansion|HD 6 slot expansion chassis when used with the files included with the installation of Pro Tools HD 7.1cs4 or higher (including Pro Tools HD 7.2) for Mac OS X for PowerPC. However, the ESB and EXS24 features are not supported with the Expansion|HD chassis. Have you had a different experience? I'd like to try and get that thing working again so I can put an aurora fuse-X card in the G5 thanks, judson On Oct 21, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: > Judson,weren't you using a mix+ system with a powerbook? I thought we > sorted it out that the issue was related to using the Mix+ cards > specifically with the powerbook. > > I've used HD cards with both G5 and Powerbook and Chassis with ESB > enabled. There's no issue with ESB and Chassis specifically that I > have ever encountered. > > bd > > On Oct 21, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Judson wrote: > > > I bought one to use with Logic and Protools and couldn't get it to > > work with Logic....its possible that its because I had ESB > enabled--I > > read that they are not compatible but I haven't tried it again > > since. You must use Protools 7.1 and it supposedly increases your > > RTAS/TDM latency time with virtual instruments (only in record mode, > > it is compensated on playback). > > > > -Judson > > > > On Oct 21, 2006, at 11:48 AM, erockerboy wrote: > > > >> Is anyone here successfully using a Digidesign expansion chassis to > >> house their PTHD cards? > >> > >> Any pros/cons? How's the stability? > >> > >> I am trying to figure out how to add a host SATA adapter for > >> additional > >> HD storage, and need to free up a PCI slot to do so. The expansion > >> chassis looks like one of the few options available to me at this > >> point. Would love to hear from anyone currently using one. > Thanks in > >> advance! > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > __ > > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > > TDM > > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > > search > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 at 8:16:22 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Help....
Message #24425
This is a reply to #24423.
The auto input needing to be on is true. BUT, he's already running Logic 7.2.3. PT 7.1 is not an option when running this version of Logic. He must use PT 7.2 bd On Oct 21, 2006, at 5:34 PM, brio taliaferro wrote: > I would stick with PT 7.1.x if you occasionally like to have auto > input monitoring switched OFF. > Digidesign changed something in 7.2 that LOGIC has not yet reacted > to, AFAIK. > The effect is that auto input monitoring has to be switched ON in > LOGIC at all times, when using DAE 7.2. > > Brio > > > On 22 Oct 2006, at 00:43, Bob DeMaa wrote: > >> I just set this very system up for a client. >> >> PT 7.2.x and whatever the current 828 driver is on the MOTU site. >> >> bd >> >> >> On Oct 21, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Victor Pozas wrote: >> >>> Hi Friends! >>> >>> Could anyone please help? >>> >>> I decided to drop DTDM and go the motu 828 way... >>> >>> Wich DAE and PT7 works best for the following configuration? >>> >>> Logic Pro 7.2.3 >>> G4 dual 1.42 1.5 Gb ram >>> Pro Tools HD2 >>> Motu 828 >>> >>> Thanks everyone! >>> >>> Victor >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>> _ >>> _ >>> __ >>> Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- >>> TDM >>> - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ >>> search >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> __ >> Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- >> TDM >> - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ >> search >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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