Axel, thanks, I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Plugs that I don't have will not instanciate in the project, they will show up on the track, but "crossed". I always remove these when recieving projects with plugs I don't have. Or do you mean plugs in the plug-ins folder that are not licensed or activated? You mean that they could cause trouble by just beeing inside the folder? This particular project is actually mine from the beginning, so I'm very sure I'm not using anything strange here. But I will check my plug-ins folder to see what's there, exactly..... Thanx and Best reg. Alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, axel@... wrote: > > Hi, > > that "out of memory" message comes up in Logic, if there are PlugIns > used in a project, that you > don't have or which aren't licensed. So, one workaround: > Can you open the project without doing anything else (like hit play)? If > so, open it, deselect your > drivers after it and than put out all PlugIns you don't have. Save as > another song, acitvate the > drivers, quit and start logic and open the song again. That should work. > > I got this often after for example the waves demos expired, or the > dongle for steinberg plugins > wasn't plugged into the computer. > > Regards, > > Axel > > > Am 10.07.2006 um Uhr haben Sie geschrieben: > > Hey Erik and Dave, > > thanks a lot for your hints, no permission problems, but > > seems like removing the global record path > > initially solved the problem. For now. But isn't it strange that Apple > > just can't fix this record path problem that we've had for years now, > once > > and for all! The OS is theirs, and so is Logic now, strange that they > > can't arrange a decent marriage between the couple.... Maybe it's > because > > Logic leaves the room too often...... > > > > Thanx again! Ha en fin sommar! > > Alar > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, David Gordon <music-pro@> wrote: > > > > > > Check the permissions on your audio drive for all folders involved - > > > and also the global record path. > > > > > > One way you can get a file not found error is that Logic thinks it > is > > > writing the file (and is so silly that it ignores the error message > > > from the OS), then when it goes to read what it wrote there is > > > nothing there. Then Logic is so embarrased that it has to leave the > > > room! > > > > > > That may not be the problem here, but it's worth checking out. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > - Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > David Gordon > > > Composer/Producer > > > Sequoia Records > > > > > > http://www.sequoiarecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Alar Suurna wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > Forgive me if this has been covered before, but I'm forced to mix > > > > in Logic again (phew...) and when I recorded my first mix I get > this > > > > "file not found"-error and then an "Out of memory" message and > Logic > > > > crashes. I'm NOT short of internal memory, no softsynths, no DTDM, > > > > only > > > > 32 tracks of TDM audio. And, a lot of plugs.... > > > > What is this? Any help appreciated, thanks. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Alar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > __ > > > > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! > http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > > > > TDM > > > > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > > > > search > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi, that's right, PlugIns you don't have come up with a greyed out field. But this ones which are installed but not licensed or not working (like the old virtual guitarit without patched to it's samples) are producing this "out of memory" and than crash bug in Logic. I got 6,5 GB Ram and the only way to get this error-message are unlicensed plugins or plugins wihtout their hardware key plugged in. Also if you put a htdm plug in into your tdm mixer (in PT 7 and Logic 7, which isn't able to use it anymore) you got this message and Logic is shortly after that just gone, without a "send a report" window or anything else. In PT if you try to open a htdm PlugIn a error-message comes up and that's it, all stays fine. So, I would check your plugins, updates, keys, ... Oh, just another thing: I had my hardware keys (logic dongle, ilok, steinberg key) putted into the hubs of the 23" flatscreens from apple. I got several of these crashes. I recognized that these USB hubs don't get enough energy, so some PlugsIns weren't licensed just because the key didn't get enough power. I tried a external usb hub with extra energy feet just for all the keys and it was gone. So, perhabs try another USB port! I am shure, that you can get this error also because of too much samples loaded or too much waveform-overviews or something else. But this was everytime the reason in my setup. I hope it is more clear now. Axel Am 11.07.2006 um 11:04 schrieb Alar Suurna: > Axel, > thanks, I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you mean. > Plugs that > I don't have will not instanciate in the project, they will show up > on the track, but "crossed". I always remove these when recieving > projects with plugs I don't have. > Or do you mean plugs in the plug-ins folder that are not licensed > or activated? You mean that they could cause trouble by just beeing > inside the folder? > This particular project is actually mine from the beginning, so I'm > very > sure I'm not using anything strange here. > But I will check my plug-ins folder to see what's there, exactly..... > > Thanx and Best reg. Alar > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, axel@... wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > that "out of memory" message comes up in Logic, if there are PlugIns > > used in a project, that you > > don't have or which aren't licensed. So, one workaround: > > Can you open the project without doing anything else (like hit > play)? If > > so, open it, deselect your > > drivers after it and than put out all PlugIns you don't have. > Save as > > another song, acitvate the > > drivers, quit and start logic and open the song again. That > should work. > > > > I got this often after for example the waves demos expired, or the > > dongle for steinberg plugins > > wasn't plugged into the computer. > > > > Regards, > > > > Axel > > > > > > Am 10.07.2006 um Uhr haben Sie geschrieben: > > > Hey Erik and Dave, > > > thanks a lot for your hints, no permission problems, but > > > seems like removing the global record path > > > initially solved the problem. For now. But isn't it strange > that Apple > > > just can't fix this record path problem that we've had for > years now, > > once > > > and for all! The OS is theirs, and so is Logic now, strange > that they > > > can't arrange a decent marriage between the couple.... Maybe it's > > because > > > Logic leaves the room too often...... > > > > > > Thanx again! Ha en fin sommar! > > > Alar > > > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, David Gordon <music-pro@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Check the permissions on your audio drive for all folders > involved - > > > > and also the global record path. > > > > > > > > One way you can get a file not found error is that Logic > thinks it > > is > > > > writing the file (and is so silly that it ignores the error > message > > > > from the OS), then when it goes to read what it wrote there is > > > > nothing there. Then Logic is so embarrased that it has to > leave the > > > > room! > > > > > > > > That may not be the problem here, but it's worth checking out. > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > - Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Gordon > > > > Composer/Producer > > > > Sequoia Records > > > > > > > > http://www.sequoiarecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Alar Suurna wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > Forgive me if this has been covered before, but I'm forced > to mix > > > > > in Logic again (phew...) and when I recorded my first mix I > get > > this > > > > > "file not found"-error and then an "Out of memory" message and > > Logic > > > > > crashes. I'm NOT short of internal memory, no softsynths, > no DTDM, > > > > > only > > > > > 32 tracks of TDM audio. And, a lot of plugs.... > > > > > What is this? Any help appreciated, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > Alar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > __ > > > > > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! > > http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > > > > > TDM > > > > > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/ > L-TDM/ > > > > > search > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello All, All my plugins are licensed and I still get it.....very annoying. Does anyone have any clue of how to help? Thanks Piers Bailey

hello i have a dual core g5 - tiger - logic 7.2 - HD2 with Rosetta 200 x-HD as interface. ProTools works perfectly but Logic crashes at launching. All was good until yesterday that I was just in Native with a PCI-424 and the 2408 and the Rosetta as clock and main converter - Now after checking the DAE engine in Logic Audio Drivers page I just cannot get Logicc to start, it crashes right when it attemps to load the DAE. Please HELP! sage

Hi everybody on this topic, under what conditions do you get this out-of-memory message? In my case I get it when recording, especially in the end of a mixsession when printing my mixes to disc. I often end up doing that on tracks 33-34 or beyond that. So, I still think David has a point with that old recording path problem. This often also creates a "File not found"-error just bfore the memorybug appears, and this happens AFTER the recording, producing 2 greyed-out regions. The strange thing is that when checking in the Finder, the newly recorded files are inside the rec.folder, but Logic doesn't seem to notice that. (left the room, too embarrased...?) And the next strange thing is, when you try to import these audiofiles, they end up with strange names in the Audio window, although the names are correct in the Finder......... And last, just to add to the confusion, if I'm trying to locate the files by double-clicking on the grey regions, I'm able to find the files of course, but then Logic reports that the "file size is smaller...blabla..use anyway?" When answering Yes, it will load the region, but the waveform stops before the end. Now when playing this file, it will still play after the waveform is gone..... ...does anybody follow me....? Anyway, this is a f-cking mess! Cheers Alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, forums@... wrote: > > Message posted by Piers Bailey <baronproductions@...>: > > Hello All, > > All my plugins are licensed and I still get it.....very annoying. Does anyone have any clue of how to help? > > > Thanks > > > Piers Bailey >

Yes All this makes sense. You are having problems with the the system starving. When you start a recording the computer first alicates the HD space that the recording is going to be stored on. It will assume that each track is the length defined by the session. (Don’t Define a long session if you know the song is shorter) The recording and storage is done under the operating system and can complete even if the program in charge (In this case Logic) as a crash or is interrupted. The Wave Form Display (sometimes called an overview) is done by the program in charge, Logic and is a separate graphics file. When it crashed it stopped creating the Wave Form Display so you only see the graphic display up to the point where it crashed. Try dragging in the sound file. That may force Logic to re-create the Wave Form Display. Repair you permissions and blow out the PRAM. To see if that solves the crash problems. Also leave your computer on overnight for a couple of days. It should automatically defrag your hard disk. Throw out old unused files.

Thanks for the useful info. Although one thing doesn't make sense in this. You claim the waveform display is shown to the point Logic crashed, but in this case Logic doesn't crash during the recording, it quits after the recording and the error messages. The issue with the interrupted waveforms and the "file not found..."-error can also happen without the "out of memory"-message appearing. Then Logic stays alive, but the file info gets corrupted in the way I described in my previous post. The only thing I found that really helps most of the time is to perform the "remove record path"-procedure. Still, it would be cool to know when the out-of-memory issue occurs for the rest of you folks. That would help in trying to track down the cause of this mess. Cheers and thanks again Alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Sound Music <soundmusic1024@...> wrote: > > Yes > All this makes sense. You are having problems with the the system starving. When you start a recording the computer first alicates the HD space that the recording is going to be stored on. It will assume that each track is the length defined by the session. (Don’t Define a long session if you know the song is shorter) The recording and storage is done under the operating system and can complete even if the program in charge (In this case Logic) as a crash or is interrupted. The Wave Form Display (sometimes called an overview) is done by the program in charge, Logic and is a separate graphics file. When it crashed it stopped creating the Wave Form Display so you only see the graphic display up to the point where it crashed. Try dragging in the sound file. That may force Logic to re-create the Wave Form Display. Repair you permissions and blow out the PRAM. To see if that solves the crash problems. Also leave your computer on overnight for a couple of days. It should > automatically defrag your hard disk. Throw out old unused files. >

Logic (and most digital recording software) analyses the amplitudes of the recoding after the recording is finished. So the crash happened after the recording a during the process of creating the graphic display file.

Attention: Logic users who compose in an orchestral context: Demonstration of the NEW Vienna Symphony Library Virtual Instruments (this isn't the library from last year.... it's the new virtual instruments that also work in LogicPro or LogicExpress). This is the only Canadian demo by somebody directly from VSL. When: Wednesday July 19th 2006 @ 6:30 PM Location: Saved By Technology 10 Breadalbane Street Toronto, Ontario M4Y 1C3 416-928-6434 Locator Map to Saved By Technology: <http://www.savedbytechnology.com/main2/map.htm>; +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Who's doing the demo? PAUL STEINBAUER, PRODUCT MANAGER FOR THE VIENNA SYMPHONIC LIBRARY Paul is a graduate from Vienna Music University, majoring in Jazz Piano. Composed music for cinema, together with Herb Tucmandl, founder of the Vienna Symphonic Library. Produced and composed music for many TV shows and commercials for Austrian Television First explored sampling in 1994, from then on produced many independent electronic and pop music projects. Currently working as a producer and songwriter in his own pre-production studio in Vienna (orchestral arrangements, electronic music and rock music) He's been with the VSL from the very beginning in 2001. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hi all, I work with Logic on two different HD rigs, one with a 192 with a 1622 on the legacy port for synths, and the other rig with a 96 interface. And I'm taking stuff between two studios all the time. The problem I have is that whenever I take a session I started, that has the 1622 inputs in it, to the studio with the 96 interface, all my ESB inputs become inputs 17-18, 19-20... and so on. And I have to manually change them back to ESB every time I go back and forward. It's a bit strange that Logic does not recognize ESB, but has it mixed up with any input. Has anyone else had this problem...? Bästaste, Fredrik

i get this problem moving from diffrent studios with interfaces connected to legacy ports. So u always have to reassign esb. Ect -----Original Message----- From: "fredrikthomander" <webbmail@epicentre.se> Subj: [L-TDM] Moving between different rigs... ESB problem Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:45 am Size: 1K To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com Hi all, I work with Logic on two different HD rigs, one with a 192 with a 1622 on the legacy port for synths, and the other rig with a 96 interface. And I'm taking stuff between two studios all the time. The problem I have is that whenever I take a session I started, that has the 1622 inputs in it, to the studio with the 96 interface, all my ESB inputs become inputs 17-18, 19-20... and so on. And I have to manually change them back to ESB every time I go back and forward. It's a bit strange that Logic does not recognize ESB, but has it mixed up with any input. Has anyone else had this problem...? Bästaste, Fredrik --- message truncated ---

This happens because the inputs have some kind of numerical address and the ESB are included in the list. When the number of inputs changes, the inputs higher on the list slide forward instead of keeping their previous address assignments. So it's not a bug, it's just a silly method. - Dave On Jul 15, 2006, at 3:06 AM, <markus.enochson@audiobuff.se> <markus.enochson@audiobuff.se> wrote: > i get this problem moving from diffrent studios with interfaces > connected to legacy ports. So u always have to reassign esb. Ect > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "fredrikthomander" <webbmail@epicentre.se> > Subj: [L-TDM] Moving between different rigs... ESB problem > Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:45 am > Size: 1K > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > > Hi all, > > I work with Logic on two different HD rigs, one with a 192 with a > 1622 on the legacy port for > synths, and the other rig with a 96 interface. And I'm taking > stuff between two studios all the > time. > > The problem I have is that whenever I take a session I started, > that has the 1622 inputs in it, > to the studio with the 96 interface, all my ESB inputs become > inputs 17-18, 19-20... and so > on. And I have to manually change them back to ESB every time I go > back and forward. > > It's a bit strange that Logic does not recognize ESB, but has it > mixed up with any input. > > Has anyone else had this problem...? > > Bästaste, > Fredrik > > > > --- message truncated --- > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Looks interesting for anyone trying to bridge Core audio to tdm- 32 channels adat out and with firewire http://www.m-audio.com/index.php? do=products.main&IDÉ2a3d7039123bba1fa72b463f867e64 W

ahhhh, well.... I was thinking about getting a new Macbook pro and fireface or ensemble and just running Logic on that while pro tools is on my other computer I guess 2 computers is really the best way to go anyway these days. teddy On Jul 2, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Judson wrote: > This used to happen to me all the time before I upgraded to a dual > 2.7 G5 from my quicksilver G4. Sometimes I would have to record > realtime into my tascam CD burner if I had a deadline. It was very > frustrating. It would just happen to certain projects and no > rebooting or relaunching would solve it. Sometimes changing the > bounce destination multiple times or freezing all my coreaudio/dtdm > tracks would fix it (but not usually). Haven't had the problem > since I went to OS 10.4.6, PT 7.1 cs8, Logic 7.2.1. > > Judson > > > On Jun 30, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > >> I have a problem.... >> >> I am trying to bounce tracks in TDM Logic and everytime I try Logic >> stops. >> It doesn't unexpectedly quit or anything, just ceases the bounce. >> >> I've tried everything I can think of including turning off Direct TDM. >> I don't know what to do now.... and I've been using Logic for 10 >> years. >> what do you guys think it could be? >> >> OS 10.3.7 >> Logic 7.1 >> Powerbook titanum w/Magma chassis and Mix plus >> >> Teddy

> Teddy wrote: >> I am trying to bounce tracks in TDM Logic and everytime >> I try Logic stops. It doesn't unexpectedly quit or anything, >> just ceases the bounce. > On Jul 2, 2006, at 4:20 PM, f-erenc szabo wrote: > Did you turn on CYCLE and set the left and right locators? > yes

Here's a workaround that I've used many times: Assign your mix to a bus instead of the outputs. Then use that bus as the input to a pair of DAE tracks with the output set to your monitor channels. Set the record path to a directory with correct permissions, arm the track and record. Keep in mind if you do it this way, the plugins and automation on your output object can't just be transferred to the recording tracks. If you need to process the whole mix, you'll need to use two busses - one for the mix before processing - that one will have the plugins and automation, then output that bus to a second pair and use that pair as the input to the recording tracks. You might want to think about upgrading to 10.3.8, check the digi compatibility documents - I think that is the recommended version of Panther. Good luck - Dave On Jul 18, 2006, at 6:09 AM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > ahhhh, well.... I was thinking about getting a new Macbook pro and > fireface or ensemble > and just running Logic on that while pro tools is on my other computer > I guess 2 computers is really the best way to go anyway these days. > > teddy > > On Jul 2, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Judson wrote: > >> This used to happen to me all the time before I upgraded to a dual >> 2.7 G5 from my quicksilver G4. Sometimes I would have to record >> realtime into my tascam CD burner if I had a deadline. It was very >> frustrating. It would just happen to certain projects and no >> rebooting or relaunching would solve it. Sometimes changing the >> bounce destination multiple times or freezing all my coreaudio/dtdm >> tracks would fix it (but not usually). Haven't had the problem >> since I went to OS 10.4.6, PT 7.1 cs8, Logic 7.2.1. >> >> Judson >> >> >> On Jun 30, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: >> >>> I have a problem.... >>> >>> I am trying to bounce tracks in TDM Logic and everytime I try Logic >>> stops. >>> It doesn't unexpectedly quit or anything, just ceases the bounce. >>> >>> I've tried everything I can think of including turning off Direct >>> TDM. >>> I don't know what to do now.... and I've been using Logic for 10 >>> years. >>> what do you guys think it could be? >>> >>> OS 10.3.7 >>> Logic 7.1 >>> Powerbook titanum w/Magma chassis and Mix plus >>> >>> Teddy > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Hey Teddy I¹d put money on your problem being the OS. Mix hardware is only approved for 10.3.4. I first installed logic and protools into my dual 1.25 G4 and was at 10.3.8. There were all sorts of issues which went away with the (clean) install of OS 10.3.4. Additionally I have heard on this board about expansion chassis incompatibilities with logic, although it may be a logic 7.2/protools 7 issue, it would be worth checking out.

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Teddy Kumpel <teddybut@...> wrote: > > > Teddy wrote: > >> I am trying to bounce tracks in TDM Logic and everytime > >> I try Logic stops. It doesn't unexpectedly quit or anything, > >> just ceases the bounce. > > Hi Teddy, please try the following procedure: If not already there, create an DTDM Output object in the environment. Push the "Bounce" knob. Change the setting from "offline" to "real time" bounce, that should solve the problem for DAE bounces too. This bug was fixed with Logic Pro 7.2/7.2.1, but I do know, that you have to use 7.1 because of your MIX-Hardware. I do hope, that this will work out right, M.K.BEAT

This looks promising for routing G4 slave (running RAX) into main G5 rig. Both RAX & Wormhole2 are made by Plasq. Has anyone had low latency sucess with this? (Can't bring myself to buy yet another audio interface) Thanks Mark

I have just switch to a HD2 system trying touse Logic with it. At first I wasn't seeing the ESB and Logic would give me an error message about missing the plu-in, so I did some research and found some posting saying i had to re-install the ESB/TDM so I did from the 7.1 disk (I run 7.2.1 downloaded it from the apple site). Logic now crashes at start up. What shall I do? Sage

I have been having the same problem - how did you fix this? Sage

> I have just switch to a HD2 system trying touse Logic with it. > At first I wasn't seeing the ESB and Logic would give me an error > message > about missing the plu-in, so I did some research and found some > posting > saying i had to re-install the ESB/TDM so I did from the 7.1 disk > (I run > 7.2.1 downloaded it from the apple site). > Logic now crashes at start up. > What shall I do? > > Sage Hi Sage, What version of Protools are you using? James

Hi, does anyone have a really stable combination of PT and Logic Pro running the new Vienna Instruments? It's a pricey bunch and it is so unstable. It's the usual problem with ESB - having to instanciate exs24 under AUX channels to get the thing to play again. Only now it even struggles with that due to the way the VI instanciate perhaps. Means I can only have a couple of VI's before problems begin. Anyone got this working well? With RME perhaps under core audio? Is it get rid of ESB time? Any thoughts appreciated. G5 dual, PT 7, HD3, Logic Pro 7.2

Hi, I have the VI Solo Strings, and I had the ESB dostortion problem. I found that it does not occur if you always close the interface window (the one with the colourful graphics, not the first useless window with the "Open Window" button) before you do anthing else like switch screensets. I spent all the time I had to play with VI just trouble-shooting this issue, so I haven't done any real work with it yet. Let me know if the above fixes your problems, of if there are still more that I haven't discovered yet. BTW this is the first time I have ever experienced ESB distortion - I have only recently upgraded to OSX. Roy Nicolson UPROAR MUSIC --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "antonnzld" <anton@...> wrote: > > Hi, does anyone have a really stable combination of PT and Logic Pro > running the new Vienna Instruments? It's a pricey bunch and it is so > unstable. It's the usual problem with ESB - having to instanciate > exs24 under AUX channels to get the thing to play again. Only now it > even struggles with that due to the way the VI instanciate perhaps. > Means I can only have a couple of VI's before problems begin. > Anyone got this working well? With RME perhaps under core audio? Is it > get rid of ESB time? > Any thoughts appreciated. > G5 dual, PT 7, HD3, Logic Pro 7.2 >

> Hi, does anyone have a really stable combination of PT and Logic Pro > running the new Vienna Instruments? It's a pricey bunch and it is so > unstable. It's the usual problem with ESB - having to instanciate > exs24 under AUX channels to get the thing to play again. Only now it > even struggles with that due to the way the VI instanciate perhaps. > Means I can only have a couple of VI's before problems begin. > Anyone got this working well? With RME perhaps under core audio? Is it > get rid of ESB time? > Any thoughts appreciated. > ESB distortions mainly occur with high memory usage (ie large sample based plugins.) I don't use vienna instruments but it happens with stylus RMX. Best advice is ditch the ESB get a decent FW device and aux core audio into the TDM mixer. As far as an affordable FW device goes- check out M Audios new Firewire adat interface- Firebridge I think it is called. 32 channels of adat plus stereo out, s/pdif, and wordclock. Street price of $399. JR