When launching Logic I get 'critical error messages (ESB TDM and ESB EXS not working). after removing the relevant PT plug ins from the DigiDesign Application support folder Logic reports error message -10800. tried to reinstall bur installer says "there were errors installing the software". does ESB actually work?

Niko, You need at least PT7.1cs4. And it needs to be installed before you install LP7.2. Get the latest cs version and then go to your LP7.2 install DVD and custom install ESB and EXS. Please disregard and excuse if you're already know this. /Erik > Message posted by niko schauble <okin@bigpond.net.au> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > When launching Logic I get 'critical error messages (ESB TDM and ESB EXS not > working). > after removing the relevant PT plug ins from the DigiDesign Application > support folder Logic > reports error message -10800. tried to reinstall bur installer says "there > were errors installing the software". > does ESB actually work?

yes you have to have aux inputs 1-2 active though. --- rory_d_irl <rory@blast-furnace.com> wrote: > is this possible?

Yes - My RME Fireface did not work , and then I thought that the OS that is installed on each machine is possibly machine specific. On 9 Apr 2006, at 22:04, Bob DeMaa wrote: > Can you be more specific about what didn't work? Are you saying > Firewire didn't work? > > Thanks, > > Bob > > On Apr 9, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Gareth Jones wrote: > >> >> On 9 Apr 2006, at 02:54, Bob DeMaa wrote: >> >>> Does anyone see any reason why I should not use my powerbook in >>> Target mode as the OS for my new Dual 2.7 G5? >> >> I tried this recently and although the G5 started up certain crucial >> stuff (I think Firewire) did not work properly >> >> I could not mix on the G5 as I was hoping to do. >> >> YMMV

I also use the my RME Fireface Mixer as an external summing buss when Mixing "In the Box" On 12 Apr 2006, at 03:41, forums@logic-users.org wrote: > > > As far as the mixing issue goes, we have a lot of users who are > using the 80-bit > mixer in the MIO as an external summing buss -- with much the same > reported > results as those who resort to an external analog summing bus. So, > with the MIO > you can mix in the box -- it is just a different box. > > Hope this clarifies the original observation and question. > > Best regards, > > B.J. Buchalter > Metric Halo

Hi all and especially B.J. Buchalter, I think you - B.J. Buchalter - have programmed the metric halo software, right? Thanks for re-explaining my first impression about better sound quality of your MIO Console! Now we have the right person to ask: What is digidesign or logic programmers doing wrong that they don't achieve the sound quality that you can obviously do with metric halo? Normally I would expect that with the latest digidesign (hardware and software) I can achieve at least the same quality as you do with metric halo, or?!? It seems to me that the better sound results lies in the 80bit mixer - you are talking about - of the MIO Console. My 888/24 and DAE which I am running is as far as I know only calculating with 48bit. Hopefully the more expensive digidesign stuff is worthy, because I don't know if I upgrade the digidesign stuff then or buy metric halo. I would have some complaints about the MetricHalo software; but don't get me wrong - sound quality is fantastic! Best wishes and thanks for an answer, Matthias. Am 14.04.2006 um 12:56 schrieb logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com: > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:41:55 -0500 > From: forums@logic-users.org > Subject: Re: Metric Halo vs Digidesign > > Message posted by B.J. Buchalter <bj@mhlabs.com> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > You guys are missing the point of the comparison he was making. I am > NOT going > to weigh in on the results he is reporting, except to note that we > hear this ALOT > from many people. > > The comparison he made was: > > Playing an audiofile through the MIO via Logic > > vs. > > Playing the same audiofile through the MIO via the Record Panel in the > MIO Console. > > The difference he is reporting is independent of the coverter -- it > was the same > converter in both cases. Of course the MIO is gonna sound better than > the 888 -- > but that is on top the comparison he is making. > > As far as the mixing issue goes, we have a lot of users who are using > the 80-bit > mixer in the MIO as an external summing buss -- with much the same > reported > results as those who resort to an external analog summing bus. So, > with the MIO > you can mix in the box -- it is just a different box. > > Hope this clarifies the original observation and question. > > Best regards, > > B.J. Buchalter > Metric Halo

I've been using it this way for a few weeks now. Everything is working with the TDM stuff, and my Rosetta 200 works via Firewire just fine. My only real issue with doing it this way is that I have to reauthorize anything that generates codes based on the ethernet port, which is a popular thing to do. Melodyne, Spectrasonics, Live, Nomad Blue Tubes to name a few. b On Apr 14, 2006, at 3:53 AM, Gareth Jones wrote: > Yes - My RME Fireface did not work , and then I thought that the OS > that is installed on each machine is possibly machine specific. > > > On 9 Apr 2006, at 22:04, Bob DeMaa wrote: > >> Can you be more specific about what didn't work? Are you saying >> Firewire didn't work? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bob >> >> On Apr 9, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Gareth Jones wrote: >> >>> >>> On 9 Apr 2006, at 02:54, Bob DeMaa wrote: >>> >>>> Does anyone see any reason why I should not use my powerbook in >>>> Target mode as the OS for my new Dual 2.7 G5? >>> >>> I tried this recently and although the G5 started up certain crucial >>> stuff (I think Firewire) did not work properly >>> >>> I could not mix on the G5 as I was hoping to do. >>> >>> YMMV > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Hi all, I live in the Valley in LA. I regularly provide drum tracks to producers and songwriters, and have still not found a perfect to get files to my clients. The complete song is usually around 500 - 600 meg, and I have used FTP, idisk, and a company called swapdrive. each has it's own limitations, and all are ISP speed dependent. i would get a T1 line, but that is very expensive. Is there no technology available to connect directly with another user's computer that isn't upload/download speed dependent? Any help would be appreciated Greg

Hi Greg, http://www.yousendit.com/ has worked fine for my needs so far... HTH. Best, Andy On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:21 AM, GC wrote: > Hi all, > > I live in the Valley in LA. > > I regularly provide drum tracks to producers and songwriters, and > have still not found a > perfect to get files to my clients. The complete song is usually > around 500 - 600 meg, and > I have used FTP, idisk, and a company called swapdrive. each has > it's own limitations, and > all are ISP speed dependent. > > i would get a T1 line, but that is very expensive. > > Is there no technology available to connect directly with another > user's computer that isn't > upload/download speed dependent? > > Any help would be appreciated > > Greg

On 18/04/2006, at 1:21 AM, GC wrote: > > Is there no technology available to connect directly with another > user's computer that isn't > upload/download speed dependent? Not AKAIK. However, some ISP's offer significantly faster upload speeds that others. I recently took up a new plan with mine where my existing plan was 10GB volume per month and DL speed was 1.2 megabytes per second and UL speed was 15 kilobytes / ps. The new plan increased the DL to 2.5 and only doubled the UL to 30. It seems insane that there should be such a big difference between the two. I've also been told that ISP's deliberately cap up speeds and it would be a simple matter of flicking a switch to increase up speed. Good luck in your search. There is always sending a CD or DVD in the post.....?? So old fashioned blah blah blah..... Kind regards ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com

Hi Greg. One solution would be to turn your own computer into an ftp-server, or better, get a cheap Windows-server (actually any old computer could do). That way it's fast and easy for you to put your files on your server (no upload time) and let the customers download the files at their own pace. What kind of connection do you have now? The only culprit is that you'd need a steady IP-adress AFAIK, which I don't know if you have. This is just a thought, I'm not an expert on server-solutions, but this is what we do here with our studio network. Good luck Alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "GC" <greg@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I live in the Valley in LA. > > I regularly provide drum tracks to producers and songwriters, and have still not found a > perfect to get files to my clients. The complete song is usually around 500 - 600 meg, and > I have used FTP, idisk, and a company called swapdrive. each has it's own limitations, and > all are ISP speed dependent. > > i would get a T1 line, but that is very expensive. > > Is there no technology available to connect directly with another user's computer that isn't > upload/download speed dependent? > > Any help would be appreciated > > Greg >

AAARGH Please help me...I am using an HD2 system with a G5 2.3Mhz with lots of RAM..exactly the same thing used to happen with my G4/MixPlus..the TDM bridge just goes down for no apparent reason..it ahppens for a few hours and then starts working again.. purely TDM based instuments like virus and EXS24mark2 are unaffected but any dTDM instuments simply become inaudible..there is no output on the instument meters..it can happen for days and its kiiling me..has anyone had anything similar happen..its got to be something simple I'm missing. Thanks in advance for ANY ideas...fran

Are you sure the problem is in the ESB bus? It's also possible no MIDI is getting to your instruments or something is off in your native setup. Do you see the meters on the instrument objects registering sound levels in the native mixer, or are the instruments themselves not generating any sound prior to going through the ESB bus? You can further test this by bussing the instrument, inside the DTDM native mixer, to a native Aux object, then set the output of the native Aux object to ESB and assign a TDM/DAE aux object with the same ESB pair as input. Play the instrument live or from a midi track and determine where in the chain the audio is disappearing. If the audio never appears on the instrument object itself, or on the native DTDM aux you are bussing it to - then your problem is not with the ESB/TDM connection. Depending on the results of this test, you can debug the appropriate part of your system. For example, I have seen MIDI simply stop for no reason on a track - completely unpredictable. This happens to my system once or twice a month. The MIDI registers in the Transport window monitor as going in to the track, but nothing coming out - either live or on playback. Usually it fixes that to create a new track, assign it to the same instrument, then drag all the regions from the previous track to the new one. Rarely, closing and reopening the song is required. If you trace the problem to ESB, ie, the audio is present in the DTDM mixer and does not appear on the DAE/TDM side of the ESB bus, then try closing and reopening the song. If that doesn't do it, try quitting and relaunching Logic. - Dave On Apr 19, 2006, at 4:26 PM, forums@logic-users.org wrote: > Message posted by francis eyre <franciseyre@macace.net> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > AAARGH Please help me...I am using an HD2 system with a G5 2.3Mhz > with lots > of RAM..exactly the same thing used to happen with my G4/ > MixPlus..the TDM > bridge just goes down for no apparent reason..it ahppens for a few > hours and > then starts working again.. purely TDM based instuments like virus and > EXS24mark2 are unaffected but any dTDM instuments simply become > inaudible..there is no output on the instument meters..it can > happen for > days and its kiiling me..has anyone had anything similar > happen..its got to > be something simple I'm missing. Thanks in advance for ANY > ideas...fran > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Dave Thanks for that - I dont have my computer to hand but I think you may well be right about the MIDI thing..I just couldnt see why MIDI should just go down in that way...i'll have a play around..if im confused I might email you again..could be time to move to the PT7.1 software??..does this ever happen in protools?...thanks again for your time

Hi all! I have been trying to get some answers reg. OMF/AAF export and import in Logic without success so far. I submitted a tech support file to Apple, but no reaction so far. As usual. So I'm turning to this knowledgeble group of experts, maybe any of you can give me a hint. What I'm doing more and more frequently is exporting Logic sessions to ProTools for mix. My primary question is why the AAF export in Logic creates an embedded file (audio included) without having the option to choose whether you want audio included or not. As is the case with the OMF export options. Although, I must add, that the only usable option is to include the audio.... If you read the Logic manual it states that OMF/AAF export/import is used mainly for exchanging sessions between ProTools and Logic. The Digitranslator in ProTools can't handle AAF files with embedded audio, which makes the AAF-export from Logic unusable for it's purpose. OMF files with audio included works fine, but OMF is an old code with no way of retaining levels, panning and automation info, which supposedly should work with AAF. And we all could agree on what a bliss it would be to at least have some initial levels set when you start the mix process.... Also I've never been able to get the option of not including audio in the OMF file to work with ProTools. That's a hazzle since exporting large session takes a long time and is risky because OMF doesn't seem to handle larger amounts of audio (around 2Gb) very well, at least not within the export in Logic. I often get an error message just in the end the export which forces me to start all over again. I imagine all this hazzle could be avoided if Logic could create an AAF file that points to the source media instead of copying it. Just to add to the confusion, the other way around it works fine to create an OMF export without including the audio in ProTools and Logic imports that without any problems. However it doesn't work with an AAF file, then Logic cannot find the media.......it really is a big mess. And nobody seemes to know anything about it. And the manuals, both PT and Logic, doesn't give the right answers. If anybody of you have experience in this, maybe I'm doing something wrong, or if you know where I could find the proper info, please give me a hint. Thanx a lot Alar

I suddenly find I can't load Guitar Rig in TDM I get a" TDM Error 7054-while trying to insert Plug-in." This is new. It used to work fine I don't know what has changed. It inserts fine on Logic instrument tracks but since I'm using TDM it's of no use in recording directly. Any insights would be helpful. Logic 7.1.1 G5 dual OSs 10.4.6 Pax Jake

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Max Hodges <max.hodges@...> wrote: > > Can i just clear up some confusion here. >(...) > Max Hodges From my professional experience, I couldn't agree more with that (long) post! Anyone interested in that topic, don't miss it!

I upgraded my HD to 7.1cs6 and to LP 7.2, I had to re-authorise all my plugs which was not a big deal, just a lot of digging for my SN and inserting CD's, but after it would just quit logic after it was about to open my autoload or any song file. Has anyone had this problem or had to re-uathorise their plugs? If so, any information on this would be greatfull!! Alex Greggs I upgraded on to the same HD that my HD 6.9 and LP 7.2 were on, not sure why I lost my auths. Dual 2 G5 HD2 Accel 10.4.5

After you were finished installing all your software, did you repair your permissions (and zap your PRAM while you were at it)? Have you tried the usual, like trashing prefs? If you removed your autoload, would Logic load? Do you have any plug-ins instanciated in your autoload? That could spell problems, especially if they were HTDM. Lee Blaske >I upgraded my HD to 7.1cs6 and to LP 7.2, I had to re-authorise all >my plugs which was not a >big deal, just a lot of digging for my SN and inserting CD's, but >after it would just quit logic >after it was about to open my autoload or any song file. Has anyone >had this problem or had >to re-uathorise their plugs? If so, any information on this would be >greatfull!! > >Alex Greggs > > >I upgraded on to the same HD that my HD 6.9 and LP 7.2 were on, not >sure why I lost my >auths. > >Dual 2 G5 >HD2 Accel >10.4.5

Hi all, Tried to start LogicPro 7.2 (ProTools 7.1 installed on Tiger 10.4.3) and it gives the following error:- Direct TDM: "ESB TDM" plug-in not found. (-10800) What is the quickest way of fixing this? Any help/ links would be greatly appreciated! Ta. Phill

Hi again, eh no, this time it says the following: "Critical error! A critical error occured while registering with Streammanager. The ESB + EXS24 will not work properly. Please check your stream Manager installation." How rubbish is that? Appreciate if you could help. Phill On 22 Apr 2006, at 23:51, Philliph McMurtry wrote: > Hi all, > > Tried to start LogicPro 7.2 (ProTools 7.1 installed on Tiger 10.4.3) > and it gives the following error:- > > Direct TDM: "ESB TDM" plug-in not found. (-10800) > > What is the quickest way of fixing this? Any help/ links would be > greatly appreciated! > > Ta. > > Phill > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

Have you installed PT 7.1 before installing Logic? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ---- Original Message ---- From: "Philliph McMurtry" <phill@midearthmusic.co.uk> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LogicPro 7.2 DAE Error > Hi again, > > eh no, this time it says the following: > > "Critical error! A critical error occured while registering with > Streammanager. The ESB + EXS24 will not work properly. Please check > your stream Manager installation." > > How rubbish is that? > > Appreciate if you could help. > > Phill > > On 22 Apr 2006, at 23:51, Philliph McMurtry wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Tried to start LogicPro 7.2 (ProTools 7.1 installed on Tiger 10.4.3) >> and it gives the following error:- >> >> Direct TDM: "ESB TDM" plug-in not found. (-10800) >> >> What is the quickest way of fixing this? Any help/ links would be >> greatly appreciated! >> >> Ta. >> >> Phill

Philliph McMurtry <phill@midearthmusic.co.uk> wrote: >Tried to start LogicPro 7.2 (ProTools 7.1 installed on Tiger 10.4.3) >and it gives the following error:- >Direct TDM: "ESB TDM" plug-in not found. (-10800) You need to install Protools 7.1 before you install Logic. That's because Logic detects the presence of ProTools and thus installs the stuff needed to work with the HD hardware like ESB). If you install Logic first, then it has no idea that Protools will be installed later. You don't need to uninstall both to start over again. Just install Logic again..... there is even a custom install option on the Logic 7.2 DVD that will allow you to only install ESB (and EXS TDM). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Thanks chap! Shall try it. Phill McMurtry www.sonicbids.com/phillmcmurtry www.wtfdrecords.com On 23 Apr 2006, at 05:31, f-erenc szabo wrote: > Philliph McMurtry <phill@midearthmusic.co.uk> wrote: >> Tried to start LogicPro 7.2 (ProTools 7.1 installed on Tiger 10.4.3) >> and it gives the following error:- >> Direct TDM: "ESB TDM" plug-in not found. (-10800) > > You need to install Protools 7.1 before you install Logic. > That's because Logic detects the presence of ProTools and > thus installs the stuff needed to work with the HD hardware > like ESB). If you install Logic first, then it has no idea that > Protools will be installed later. > > You don't need to uninstall both to start over again. Just > install Logic again..... there is even a custom install option > on the Logic 7.2 DVD that will allow you to only install > ESB (and EXS TDM). > > > > > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

Anyone know why when I bounce (real time) a file from a 24 bit session, and have the bounce set to convert/dither to 16 bit, Logic always gives me a file exists error? Is this a problem with a long name? -mark
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