Hi Bob, are you having these issues on the same rig? I´m merely guessing here. Could your song document have gone corrupted? Is there a point to saving your files to a new autoload? Do you experience the same thing on other song documents? There might be a permissions issue. Is this new behaviour or old news? Maybe it´s Disk Warrior time. DW saved my ass on Friday the 13th... Best /E G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.4.2, HD Accel3, PT 6.9.3cs2, L7.1.1 _______________________________ Erik Häusler Future Love Productions AB mob. +46 708 650 550 erik@futurelove.se 15 jan 2006 kl. 13.07 skrev Bob DeMaa: > I get a system Crash, multilanguage restart your computer screen > about 10% of the time immediately after freezing a track. Does anyone > else encounter this? > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

>Message posted by Dennis O'Brien <djdennisobrien@yahoo.co.uk> >______________________________________________________________________ > >Hi all > >Is anyone running Tiger 10.4.4 or know anything about it. > >Dennis O'Brien Digidesign tech support posted a warning that it has not yet been approved for PT. If and when it gets approved, it most likely will not be tested or revised for PT 6.9.x, just PT7. So, if you're using Logic with PT, don't use OS 10.4.4 unless you're really adventurous. We'll most likely have to wait until the PT 7 version compatible version of Logic is released. 10.4.4 would probably be safe if you were running Logic natively with no PT hardware/software. Lee Blaske

Anyone while using the "goto" command to go to bar 1 or 2, and -8 thru 0 it goes instead to just AFTER the bar? (0.1.2 Very annoying because it won't click that beat, making 3 beats instead of 4 in the first measure.

This is on my powerbook rig with the Digi Hardware and the expansion chassis. There are 7 sessions I'm working on that I got from a client. It seems to happen on all of them. It also happens randomly when I "Export Track as Audio File", and always happens if I check the box for import resulting audio file. When / If it does crash while exporting, the resulting audio file is usually corrupted. One of the last things I did last night was to Disk Warrior my audio drive and my system drive, and repair permissions. Can't remember if it happened again after I did this or not. The drive is not full, it has about 16 gig free. Haven't tried any of this with my personal autoload doc. I don't normally work this way so I haven't had to deal with it in the past. It doesn't feel like the song doc is corrupted because everything else works out really well. I'm even using an old 933 as a Node which is working out beautifully. I did try re-saving the session as a new project, which seemed to help keep the session from reloading all the sampler instruments every time I hit save, but it didn't help the random crashing when using Freeze. The client is coming over tonight to preview the mixes, we'll see if DW and permissions helped anything or not. For the most part I'm still getting all my work done, and I have to say I like Logic overall even more now that I've had to use it under only core audio. I love the Channel EQ. IMHO, the Logic Space Designer Reverb or whatever it's called doesn't touch Altiverb 5 for quality and depth. But in Logics defense, few plug-ins I've used are as cool sounding as the Ensembles and Chorus. Best, and thanks for the suggestions B On Jan 16, 2006, at 6:07 AM, Erik Häusler wrote: > Hi Bob, > are you having these issues on the same rig? > I´m merely guessing here. Could your song document have gone > corrupted? Is there a point to saving your files to a new autoload? > Do you experience the same thing on other song documents? > There might be a permissions issue. Is this new behaviour or old news? > Maybe it´s Disk Warrior time. DW saved my ass on Friday the 13th... > > Best > > /E > > G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.4.2, HD Accel3, PT 6.9.3cs2, L7.1.1 > _______________________________ > > Erik Häusler > Future Love Productions AB > mob. +46 708 650 550 > erik@futurelove.se > > > 15 jan 2006 kl. 13.07 skrev Bob DeMaa: > >> I get a system Crash, multilanguage restart your computer screen >> about 10% of the time immediately after freezing a track. Does anyone >> else encounter this? >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >> __ >> Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- >> TDM >> - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ >> search >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

yep same bug here and another bug .......... if I'm in 3/4 time and I go to bar zero ....... it goes 1 beat too far ...... ie Logic isn't smart enough to realize we prefer a 3 beat count off on a waltz .... > Anyone while using the "goto" command to go to bar 1 or 2, and -8 > thru 0 it goes instead > to just AFTER the bar? (0.1.2 > > Very annoying because it won't click that beat, making 3 beats > instead of 4 in the first > measure. > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

Hmm, this raises the question if EXS is used to save to the main EXS folder, gets confused when it can´t (suppose your files are in the session folder) and has to relocate all the sampler files each time you hit save. Maybe running EXS Manager would help just to make sure EXS has the new path properly programmed. Ahh, reading your letter again I see you solved that one. Is your buffer range set to Large? Here´s another recipe signed Erik Sojdelius: "After trashing ALL Preferences, start PT first, set "Playback Engine" to your desired settings. I keep mine at 70% CPU, 3 dsps, etc. Quit PT. When opening Logic, you should get the setup assistant, run it & and set the EXACT values you set in PT's PB engine. When you're done, go directly to Audio Hardware & Drivers and dubblecheck the values. Chances are you'll have to set them again..(Bug?)" Best of luck tonight /Erik G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.4.2, HD Accel3, PT 6.9.3cs2, L7.1.1 _______________________________ Erik Häusler Future Love Productions AB mob. +46 708 650 550 erik@futurelove.se 16 jan 2006 kl. 23.01 skrev David Gordon: > Do you know where Logic is saving your freeze files? > > Even after you repair permissions, if Logic tries to write to a > folder where it does not have permission to write, that can cause a > crash. Try locating the folder where the freeze files are written > and making sure that particular folder has read and write permission > for your current user account. > > - Dave

Do you know where Logic is saving your freeze files? Even after you repair permissions, if Logic tries to write to a folder where it does not have permission to write, that can cause a crash. Try locating the folder where the freeze files are written and making sure that particular folder has read and write permission for your current user account. - Dave On Jan 16, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: > This is on my powerbook rig with the Digi Hardware and the expansion > chassis. > > There are 7 sessions I'm working on that I got from a client. It > seems to happen on all of them. It also happens randomly when I > "Export Track as Audio File", and always happens if I check the box > for import resulting audio file. When / If it does crash while > exporting, the resulting audio file is usually corrupted. > > One of the last things I did last night was to Disk Warrior my audio > drive and my system drive, and repair permissions. Can't remember if > it happened again after I did this or not. The drive is not full, it > has about 16 gig free. > > Haven't tried any of this with my personal autoload doc. I don't > normally work this way so I haven't had to deal with it in the past. > > It doesn't feel like the song doc is corrupted because everything > else works out really well. I'm even using an old 933 as a Node which > is working out beautifully. > > I did try re-saving the session as a new project, which seemed to > help keep the session from reloading all the sampler instruments > every time I hit save, but it didn't help the random crashing when > using Freeze. > > The client is coming over tonight to preview the mixes, we'll see if > DW and permissions helped anything or not. For the most part I'm > still getting all my work done, and I have to say I like Logic > overall even more now that I've had to use it under only core audio. > I love the Channel EQ. > > IMHO, the Logic Space Designer Reverb or whatever it's called doesn't > touch Altiverb 5 for quality and depth. But in Logics defense, few > plug-ins I've used are as cool sounding as the Ensembles and Chorus. > > Best, and thanks for the suggestions > > B > > On Jan 16, 2006, at 6:07 AM, Erik Häusler wrote: > >> Hi Bob, >> are you having these issues on the same rig? >> I´m merely guessing here. Could your song document have gone >> corrupted? Is there a point to saving your files to a new autoload? >> Do you experience the same thing on other song documents? >> There might be a permissions issue. Is this new behaviour or old >> news? >> Maybe it´s Disk Warrior time. DW saved my ass on Friday the 13th... >> >> Best >> >> /E >> >> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.4.2, HD Accel3, PT 6.9.3cs2, L7.1.1 >> _______________________________ >> >> Erik Häusler >> Future Love Productions AB >> mob. +46 708 650 550 >> erik@futurelove.se >

Hi Guys I have a new setup comprising Power Mac G5 2.7 Ghz DP, 2GB RAM, MacOSx 10.4.4, Logic Pro 7.1.1, Digidesign's HD2 Accel, Pro Tools HD 7.1. Digidesign's part is stable and working fine on its own, however after the upgrade I can't even start Logic Pro which unexpectedly quits when 'Launching DAE' and then hangs (I have to force quit and abandon the whole procedure). Any ideas what could be wrong? Compatibility issues? Before this I had a smoothly working setup of G4, MacOSX 10.2.2, Logic Pro 7, MixPlus hardware and PT 6.4, and now this mayhem! I'm absolutely devastated, as I'm not able to continue working with my old files. Would appreciate your thoughts. kind regards Alexander

Unfortunately it seems Logic 7 is not yet compatible with PT 7. But NAMM opens today, so maybe there will be a new OS for Logic that addresses this. ~Rufuss On Jan 19, 2006, at 5:13 AM, alexkliuk wrote: > Hi Guys > > I have a new setup comprising Power Mac G5 2.7 Ghz DP, 2GB RAM, > MacOSx 10.4.4, Logic > Pro 7.1.1, Digidesign's HD2 Accel, Pro Tools HD 7.1. > Digidesign's part is stable and working fine on its own, however > after the upgrade I can't even > start Logic Pro which unexpectedly quits when 'Launching DAE' and > then hangs (I have to > force quit and abandon the whole procedure). Any ideas what could > be wrong? Compatibility > issues? Before this I had a smoothly working setup of G4, MacOSX > 10.2.2, Logic Pro 7, > MixPlus hardware and PT 6.4, and now this mayhem! I'm absolutely > devastated, as I'm not > able to continue working with my old files. Would appreciate your > thoughts. > > kind regards > Alexander

Looks like some details re: Logic 7.2 are coming out at NAMM.... http://www.apple.com/logicpro/crossgrade.html Ships in February. PT7 compatibility. And apparently you can buy Serato's pitch algorithm for use directly in Logic's sample editor. Cool!!

How do I turn off the automatic addition of the word "merged" to files when I glue them? I remember there being a pref in older Logic versions, but I can't find it now thanks GC

excellent stuff thanks for the heads up OT. btw, i'm gonna have to moove my studio this year. my landlord sold it to some poeple that are gonna convert the building to houseing... any leads wellcome for new studio location... in stockholm though... ;) markus 19 jan 2006 kl. 21.33 skrev Erik Huber: > Looks like some details re: Logic 7.2 are coming out at NAMM.... > > http://www.apple.com/logicpro/crossgrade.html > > Ships in February. PT7 compatibility. And apparently you can buy > Serato's pitch algorithm for use directly in Logic's sample editor. > Cool!! > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

they are so good at this now... i'm reading all these specs thinking "aha! this is the ONE."

Hi Has anybody got any idea if any of the bugs in Logic "Pro" 7.1.1 is fixed in 7.2, or have they just added new functions with more bugs as it has been the rule since Apple took over ? Should we still pay for software updates that does not fix the obvious errors ? best regards Lars Krarup --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, forums@l... wrote: > > Message posted by charles spencer <loveslap@g...> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > they are so good at this now... > > i'm reading all these specs thinking "aha! this is the ONE." >

Hi Does anybody know if any of the bugs in Logic "Pro" 7.1.1 is fixed in 7.2 or are we just getting the usual bullshit since Apple took over, with new added functions but no fixing old, obvious errors ?? Should we really pay for another upgrade that does not work ? best regards Lars Krarup --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, forums@l... wrote: > > Message posted by charles spencer <loveslap@g...> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > they are so good at this now... > > i'm reading all these specs thinking "aha! this is the ONE." >

"GC" <greg@gregcritchley.com> wrote: > How do I turn off the automatic addition of the > word "merged" to files when I glue them? Logic Pro menu -> Preferences -> Global -> Editing -> Add 'Last Edit Function' to Region Name Make sure there is no checkmark there. This feature adds the name of whatever function you have just done to the region. In your specific case, it was merged. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Hi guys, Maybe OT but a simple question. Read on DUC that EPIC TDM would still work in PT 7 ? So the Logic efx would work - all HTDM softsynths obviously not. Anyone tried it yet ? I´d love to have the Tremolo and Logic Delays in use still if i upgrade. Thanks, sasse

> Read on DUC that EPIC TDM would still > work in PT 7 ? So the Logic efx would work Yes. > - all HTDM softsynths obviously not. Correct. > I´d love to have the Tremolo and > Logic Delays in use still if i upgrade. Should work. But I suggest SoundToys TDM FX (Tremolator and Echoboy) as (better) alternative... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de

Hey guys, just a follow-up: 1. Whenever I use any of the EPIC plugs logic becomes super-slow in terms of applying and deleting sends. Approx. 3 times slower. Would you speculate about an improvement of this With LP7.2/PT7 and a new stream manager? 2. Will the spacedesigner work? As I recall, it's not part of the epic bundle but the HTDM Bundle I guess all we can do is speculate at this point, still... Thanks in Advance, Erik >> Read on DUC that EPIC TDM would still >> work in PT 7 ? So the Logic efx would work > > Yes. > >> - all HTDM softsynths obviously not. > > Correct. > >> I´d love to have the Tremolo and >> Logic Delays in use still if i upgrade. > > Should work. > > But I suggest SoundToys TDM FX (Tremolator and Echoboy) as (better) > alternative... > > Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Thanks Peter for the answer. Makes my move to PT7 much more comfortable. > But I suggest SoundToys TDM FX (Tremolator and Echoboy) as (better) > alternative... As a matter of fact I´m using the Epic Tremolo very much as an autopan efx. Any other TDM Autopan efx out there ? TL Labs were coming out with one but there´s not much info on it. Sasse > > Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

You guys did hear the news that Digi just bought TLLabs, right? Pretty cool news if you ask me...I absolutely adore Everyphase. -Jamey on 1/22/06 12:17 PM, Sasse Lindblad wrote: > Thanks Peter for the answer. Makes my move to PT7 much more comfortable. > >> But I suggest SoundToys TDM FX (Tremolator and Echoboy) as (better) >> alternative... > > As a matter of fact I´m using the Epic Tremolo very much as an autopan efx. > Any other TDM Autopan efx out there ? TL Labs were coming out with one but > there´s not much info on it. > > Sasse > >> Peter >> --- >> http://www.merlinsound.de

Am hoping - finally - to install my RME Digiface in the coming weeks so I can hardware lightpipe into ProTools (thereby eliminating DTDM/ESB from my setup). This will be as good a time as any to do a clean reinstall of my entire system, and upgrade to Tiger while I'm at it (am currently on 10.3.8, Logic 7.1.1, ProTools 6.9). With this setup, things are actually fairly stable - BUT, about 20-30% of the time Logic will crash when opening a session. This does seem to be related to the presence of ESB objects in my autoload (the problem was MUCH worse when I had ESB aux objects assigned to all 8 ESB sends - much better now with only one stereo pair enabled, but I still get crash-on-open with 20-30% frequency). I'm hoping that simply going CoreAudio-only will improve things, but if moving to Tiger will help too, then I'll make time to do the complete reinstall/upgrade. So - can anyone comment on their experiences with overall stability running under Tiger vs. Panther as it pertains to the Logic TDM situation? Will I be better served in the long run to do this? Or is 10.3.8/7.1.1/6.9 still the "magic" combo? Thanks for any thoughts on this.

We've had a pretty good size logic/TDM system running very smoothly for over a year... except for one thing. We can only open one file before it crashes. This week I've done some exhaustive testing and found no solutions that work. If anyone could do this simple test, which wouldn't take but 10 minutes I would be eternally grateful: Build an environment with 32 stereo input channels, 16 stereo aux channels, 8 stereo aux channels with ESX instantiated on them, and 32 Audio tracks. Make the output of everything "surround". On each fader, (inputs, exs, and audio tracks) make two stereo sends, (a bus 1-2 and a bus 3-4). The level of the sends doesn't matter. Now save the file as #1 and another copy as #2. Here's the test. Open #1, then open #2, (closing #1) then open #1, and 2, and back and forth until logic (un)expectedly quits. Hopefully it will never crash and you will be my hero and savior. Let's see who can get the most loads, and what their setup is. I'll post a file that people can try loading if it makes it easier. HD3 Dual 2.5 G5 Thanks, Tim

I think we may be having the same problem. See my other thread- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/message/23070?threaded=1 All the testing that I did, the more DSP that was used, the less number of files I could open before a crash. It almost seemed directly related. Maybe Logic isn't "letting go" of the TDM usage, and therefore reaching a critical point before meltdown? I had 10.3.5 logic 7.0.1 PT 6.7r2 But since then, I've tried nearly every combination of OS, logic, and PT. TIm --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Huber" <erockerboy@y...> wrote: > > Am hoping - finally - to install my RME Digiface in the coming weeks > so I can hardware lightpipe into ProTools (thereby eliminating > DTDM/ESB from my setup). > > This will be as good a time as any to do a clean reinstall of my > entire system, and upgrade to Tiger while I'm at it (am currently on > 10.3.8, Logic 7.1.1, ProTools 6.9). With this setup, things are > actually fairly stable - BUT, about 20-30% of the time Logic will > crash when opening a session. This does seem to be related to the > presence of ESB objects in my autoload (the problem was MUCH worse > when I had ESB aux objects assigned to all 8 ESB sends - much better > now with only one stereo pair enabled, but I still get crash-on-open > with 20-30% frequency). > > I'm hoping that simply going CoreAudio-only will improve things, but > if moving to Tiger will help too, then I'll make time to do the > complete reinstall/upgrade. > > So - can anyone comment on their experiences with overall stability > running under Tiger vs. Panther as it pertains to the Logic TDM > situation? Will I be better served in the long run to do this? Or > is 10.3.8/7.1.1/6.9 still the "magic" combo? > > Thanks for any thoughts on this. >

Hi, I think that problem still is there for everyone using DAE in Logic. I heard about two years ago from an emagic programmer that in fact Logic isn't able to "unload" error free the DSP chips. Because of that it could be that some times logic crashes after one song, sometimes after a couple of songs. That is in fact also my biggest problem. Because logic seems to write errors into the song-file by crashing during opening the song, it causes problems that are really nasty. It doesn't matter with what for an autoload you are starting, nore how many out- or inputs you are using and if you are working in stereo or surround. There are no specific plug-ins or combinations that causes that crash. I think I have also tried nearly every combination in OS and Logic (10.3.8 with Logic 6.4 if I remember it right and ProTools 6.4 was the best) and even different G5 dual (2.0 and 2.7). Nearly nothing changes till now (OSX.4.4, Logic 7.1.1). I hope that the new Logic Update brings changes. I have another big (even bigger) problem with I/O PlugIns and internal Mixer settings (make new bus-sends or changing outputs, inputs, whatever), but that's another point. Succes and regards, Axel Am 25.01.2006 um 21:35 schrieb yeehaanow: > > We've had a pretty good size logic/TDM system running very smoothly > for over a year... > except for one thing. We can only open one file before it crashes. > > This week I've done some exhaustive testing and found no solutions > that work. > > > If anyone could do this simple test, which wouldn't take but 10 > minutes I would be > eternally grateful: > > > Build an environment with 32 stereo input channels, 16 stereo aux > channels, 8 stereo aux > channels with ESX instantiated on them, and 32 Audio tracks. Make > the output of > everything "surround". On each fader, (inputs, exs, and audio > tracks) make two stereo > sends, (a bus 1-2 and a bus 3-4). The level of the sends doesn't > matter. Now save the file > as #1 and another copy as #2. > > Here's the test. Open #1, then open #2, (closing #1) then open #1, > and 2, and back and > forth until logic (un)expectedly quits. Hopefully it will never > crash and you will be my hero > and savior. Let's see who can get the most loads, and what their > setup is. > > > I'll post a file that people can try loading if it makes it easier. > > > HD3 > Dual 2.5 G5 > > > > > Thanks, Tim > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >