When selecting multiple faders at the same time to raise or lower the volume of say all my softsynths, L7.1.1 freaks out and makes all the values wrong. This has been a problem for me since V6. I figured was a small bug that would get fixed but has not, now I am thinking its my system. has anyone else had this problem and able to fix it? Alex Greggs www.MusicFreedom.com (Sell Your Music For Free)

I've looked all over the DUC, all I see is Jon Odo from Digi saying that Apple has shown no interest in RTAS so far, but that Apple has the info IF they want it. Doesn't sound good to me. Did I overlook a posting somewhere? Could you send me the link to the info you have received? Thanks.

Same problem here....been around for ages...just living with it --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "alexgreggs" <alexgreggs@a...> wrote: > > When selecting multiple faders at the same time to raise or lower the volume of say all my > softsynths, L7.1.1 freaks out and makes all the values wrong. This has been a problem for > me since V6. I figured was a small bug that would get fixed but has not, now I am thinking its > my system. has anyone else had this problem and able to fix it? > > Alex Greggs > www.MusicFreedom.com (Sell Your Music For Free) >

It is correct that LP7 and PT7 are incompatible. Hang on though, the update might arrive a little earlier than this group (myself included) has speculated. ATB, Erik > I've looked all over the DUC, all I see is Jon Odo from Digi saying > that Apple has shown no interest in RTAS so far, but that Apple has > the info IF they want it. Doesn't sound good to me. Did I overlook > a posting somewhere? Could you send me the link to the info you have > received? > > Thanks. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

RTAS is not the issue. RTAS has not been supported by logic from the get go. Apparently the issue is that in protools 7 DAE is significantly revamped and Apple will need to rewrite its dtdm and dae codes to comply. Seems kind of like a line drawn in the sand to me, which is the same energy I have been picking up from Logic/apple towards digidesign for a long time.

Thanks Alar, yeah, I had a feeling I've read about it somewhere.. So, stay away from track 1 on playback huh? Jeez.... Do you know if the issue is object or output related? All The Best, Erik > Good evening Erik! > Yes, this is a fact with LP7, and very annoying. The only way to avoid this > bug is to > move the soundfiles on ch 1 to another channel. And I don't know why this is, > but I think it's been discussed in previous posts. > > Alar > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "godmouth1965" <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: >> >> Good eavning group! >> >> So, I had my first "big" session in LP7 today. 24 channels simultaneously, >> fairly smooth. >> >> On a side note; I ran my TDM rig controlled by my Powerbook with Remote >> Desktop, > thus >> joining the band on vocals and guitar. Nobody in the control room! Pretty >> cool... >> >> Anyway, towards the end of the day when editing and compiling todays session >> DAE > channel >> 1 started to play randomly chosen audiofiles, not in sync with the rest. >> Anyone had this > and >> know the cure? >> >> Sorry if this has been covered before, just let me know and I'll scan for it! >> >> Thank In Advance, >> >> Erik >> > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

Workaround: Select desired faders, assign first one to an an unused group (the others will follow, no need to hold alt-button), deselect everything by clicking on the background, make desired volume adjustment, deactivate the new group. HTH Brio On 1/12/05 2:15 am, "Toni" <tonie@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Same problem here....been around for ages...just living with it > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "alexgreggs" <alexgreggs@a...> wrote: >> >> When selecting multiple faders at the same time to raise or lower the volume >> of say all my >> softsynths, L7.1.1 freaks out and makes all the values wrong. This has been a >> problem for >> me since V6. I figured was a small bug that would get fixed but has not, now >> I am thinking > its >> my system. has anyone else had this problem and able to fix it? >> >> Alex Greggs >> www.MusicFreedom.com (Sell Your Music For Free)

Erik - do you have any inside information on this? Just curious... --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: > > It is correct that LP7 and PT7 are incompatible. Hang on though, the update > might arrive a little earlier than this group (myself included) has > speculated.

Parthenon West <logicboy@christian.net> wrote: >Jon Odo from Digi saying >that Apple has shown no interest in RTAS so far Hopefully this will change, because Digidesign has abandoned HTDM so now RTAS is the only way of doing native plugins on DAE channels (as of ProTools 7). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

What's happening is a midi feedback loop. One of the midi tracks you're altering is probably active (midi thru) so as you move the faders it creates controller data which goes back "thru" itself and causes everything to jerk around and go out of whack. I used to have the same problem with my Tascam 8 track with moving faders only in the physical world. Just select any track you're not using in the Arrange Window first and you should be fine. Morgan Visconti human On Dec 1, 2005, at 2:53 PM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com wrote: Message: 10 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 08:38:14 +0000 From: Brio Taliaferro <lists@brio.nildram.co.uk> Subject: Re: Re: Moving multiple faders at the same time problem Workaround: Select desired faders, assign first one to an an unused group (the others will follow, no need to hold alt-button), deselect everything by clicking on the background, make desired volume adjustment, deactivate the new group. HTH Brio On 1/12/05 2:15 am, "Toni" <tonie@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Same problem here....been around for ages...just living with it > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "alexgreggs" <alexgreggs@a...> > wrote: >> >> When selecting multiple faders at the same time to raise or lower >> the volume >> of say all my >> softsynths, L7.1.1 freaks out and makes all the values wrong. This >> has been a >> problem for >> me since V6. I figured was a small bug that would get fixed but >> has not, now >> I am thinking > its >> my system. has anyone else had this problem and able to fix it? >> >> Alex Greggs >> www.MusicFreedom.com (Sell Your Music For Free)

> hi erik > > i do have had this problem > > as randomly as it appears it disappears. nop cure no cause > > markus i always forget to trim ;) 29 nov 2005 kl. 00.55 skrev godmouth1965: > Good eavning group! > > So, I had my first "big" session in LP7 today. 24 channels > simultaneously, fairly smooth. > > On a side note; I ran my TDM rig controlled by my Powerbook with > Remote Desktop, thus > joining the band on vocals and guitar. Nobody in the control room! > Pretty cool... > > Anyway, towards the end of the day when editing and compiling > todays session DAE channel > 1 started to play randomly chosen audiofiles, not in sync with the > rest. Anyone had this and > know the cure? > > Sorry if this has been covered before, just let me know and I'll > scan for it! > > Thank In Advance, > > Erik > >

On Dec 1, 2005, at 2:53 PM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:21:11 -0500 > From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com> > Subject: Re: Digidesign command-8 > > Henning Kristiansen <pro.studio@chello.no> wrote: >> I would like to know if this controller is compatible with Logic Pro 7 > > No Digidesign controller surface is compatible with > anything other than ProTools software. Hey f-erenc: Are you sure about this? I thought the Digi advertising for the Command 8 claimed it could run as a stand-alone MIDI controller. Not as sexy as a real control "personality", but functional. But to avoid my post being pure speculation, I will say that I've enjoyed using the Logic Control when I've been forced (against my will and common sense) to mix inside Logic. Best, Nathaniel Reichman www.nathanielreichman.com

From: Parthenon West <logicboy@christian.net> > I've looked all over the DUC, all I see is Jon Odo from Digi saying > that Apple has shown no interest in RTAS so far, but that Apple has > the info IF they want it. Not going to happen. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

Erik, think it's object related, have had different outputs assigned from ch 1, same sh-t...... Guess we'll have to live with it, as with the "fader-berzerk"-issue..... Best, alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: > > Thanks Alar, yeah, I had a feeling I've read about it somewhere.. > > So, stay away from track 1 on playback huh? Jeez.... > Do you know if the issue is object or output related? > > All The Best, > > Erik > > > > Good evening Erik! > > Yes, this is a fact with LP7, and very annoying. The only way to avoid this > > bug is to > > move the soundfiles on ch 1 to another channel. And I don't know why this is, > > but I think it's been discussed in previous posts. > > > > Alar > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "godmouth1965" <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: > >> > >> Good eavning group! > >> > >> So, I had my first "big" session in LP7 today. 24 channels simultaneously, > >> fairly smooth. > >> > >> On a side note; I ran my TDM rig controlled by my Powerbook with Remote > >> Desktop, > > thus > >> joining the band on vocals and guitar. Nobody in the control room! Pretty > >> cool... > >> > >> Anyway, towards the end of the day when editing and compiling todays session > >> DAE > > channel > >> 1 started to play randomly chosen audiofiles, not in sync with the rest. > >> Anyone had this > > and > >> know the cure? > >> > >> Sorry if this has been covered before, just let me know and I'll scan for it! > >> > >> Thank In Advance, > >> > >> Erik > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM > > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >

I posted about this a while ago, and it's funny that not too many have been complaining about this before. This is a real PITA, especially if you work with many different layers of audio mixers. F.i. you select an object in one of your layers. Now you switch layer, select another object there, forgetting the selected object residing in the previous layer. You move the selected fader in your mixer, forgetting that you just selected the other one, and forgetting to clic in the mixer background to de-select the faders, imagine what will happen with the other selected,but "invisible" object in the other layer......it's a mess! Haven't all of you done that some time..? This is of course a reminiscent from the days before grouping was implemented in Logic, when you could select several faders and they would follow as if they were a group. The way things work in PT, when you are forced to create a group in order to move several faders at once and keep them related to each other is the only the way to go. The "funny" thing is why they implement a new feature without getting rid of the old, broken one?? Seemes like Apple are in bad need of audio professionals with practical skills instead of software developers.....oy, just a hint......... /alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Brio Taliaferro <lists@b...> wrote: > > Workaround: > Select desired faders, assign first one to an an unused group (the others > will follow, no need to hold alt-button), deselect everything by clicking on > the background, make desired volume adjustment, deactivate the new group. > > HTH > Brio > > On 1/12/05 2:15 am, "Toni" <tonie@b...> wrote: > > > Same problem here....been around for ages...just living with it > > > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "alexgreggs" <alexgreggs@a...> wrote: > >> > >> When selecting multiple faders at the same time to raise or lower the volume > >> of say all my > >> softsynths, L7.1.1 freaks out and makes all the values wrong. This has been a > >> problem for > >> me since V6. I figured was a small bug that would get fixed but has not, now > >> I am thinking > > its > >> my system. has anyone else had this problem and able to fix it? > >> > >> Alex Greggs > >> www.MusicFreedom.com (Sell Your Music For Free) >

> So, stay away from track 1 on playback huh? Jeez.... > Do you know if the issue is object or output related? > Erik Possibly, this might be related to the track assigned for monitoring in the Sample-Edit or Audio Window? (Track 1 is set as default) Niko > > >> Good evening Erik! >> Yes, this is a fact with LP7, and very annoying. The only way to avoid this >> bug is to >> move the soundfiles on ch 1 to another channel. And I don't know why this is, >> but I think it's been discussed in previous posts. >> >> Alar >>>, towards the end of the day when editing and compiling todays session DAE >>> channel 1 started to play randomly chosen audiofiles, not in sync with the rest. >>> Anyone had this and know the cure? >>> >>> Sorry if this has been covered before, just let me know and I'll scan for >>> it! >>> >>> Thank In Advance, >>> >>> Erik Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen <niko@nichtlinear.de> <www.nichtlinear.de>

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Hi, This is embarassing but I've tried searching for an answer to no avail. I frankly don't recall how MIDI gets recorded to audio in Pro Tools. I ask because I'm trying to bounce some MIDI in Logic 7 and it isn't working. In an attempt to figure out what's going on I opened up Pro Tools 6.4 & tried to record MIDI to an audio track. The only method I found functional was to record the input from my MIDI device to an audio track in PT. However, and this is what really has me scratching my head, if I bounce MIDI & audio at the same time, the MIDI records to the bounce without any problems. Isolated MIDI bouncing doesn't function in either PT & subsequently Logic. Finally, I tried to use the External Instrument plugin in the ESBTDM bridge. I didn't find it. Is that because of the ESBTDM? I'm using a G4, Mix 24 Plus, Unitor 8, ADAT bridge system. Thanks, Bluez

>> So, stay away from track 1 on playback huh? Jeez.... >> Do you know if the issue is object or output related? > >> Erik > > Possibly, this might be related to the track assigned for monitoring in the > Sample-Edit or Audio Window? (Track 1 is set as default) > > Niko > Aha! Yes, that might be a workaround....too change the output in Audio & Sample edit windows. I'll try that today. Thanks. /Erik

Ok, thanks Alar. > Erik, > think it's object related, have had different outputs assigned from ch 1, > same sh-t...... Guess we'll have to live with it, as with the > "fader-berzerk"-issue..... > > Best, > alar

Yep, same problem. I just had to re-install an older version of Pro Tools

nick -. do you for sure? m 1 dec 2005 kl. 22.20 skrev Nick Batzdorf: > From: Parthenon West <logicboy@christian.net> > >> I've looked all over the DUC, all I see is Jon Odo from Digi saying >> that Apple has shown no interest in RTAS so far, but that Apple has >> the info IF they want it. > > Not going to happen. > > Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher

I just purchased an RME Digiface with the intention of using it for CoreAudio connectivity between Logic and my Digidesign hardware. (Currently using LP 7.1 and PT 6.9 under OSX 10.3.8. - with the requisite glitchiness from the DTDM driver.) My tentative plan is to start from the ground up and do a clean (re-)install of Logic on a fresh Tiger partition... and in the process pulling one of my HD Process cards and replacing it with the RME (and going with CoreAudio only for Logic feeding PT - no more DTDM). My question is: Is there any reason NOT to upgrade to ProTools 7 at this point - given that I do not intend to use the ESB/DTDM drivers any longer? It would be great to get all the upgrades done in one go. Is anyone else working w/ PT7 in this manner? Any problems to be aware of? Thanks for any info!

I think from what I have heard from all the chatter on this board that the PT 7 DAE is not supported by logic 7, not just the DTDM/ESB aspect. It strikes me as odd that users of logic as a front end to their system feel so inclined to upgrade protools if they do not use PT equally as much, especially if logic is working and stable as is. In regards to the RME interface I have always been admonished to use a firewire interface to run core audio to avoid PCI bus overload issues, and personally I would rather have the extra process card. Just my 2 cents though. Good luck and let us know how it turns out. --

>nick -. do you for sure? > >m > > > >1 dec 2005 kl. 22.20 skrev Nick Batzdorf: > >> From: Parthenon West <logicboy@christian.net> >> >>> I've looked all over the DUC, all I see is Jon Odo from Digi saying >>> that Apple has shown no interest in RTAS so far, but that Apple has >>> the info IF they want it. >> >> Not going to happen. >> > > Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Supporting RTAS would be a BIG change for Apple/Logic. I don't think it's going to happen, either (just I don't think we'll be seeing Digidesign add AU support). Even if Apple comes out with a PT compatible version of Logic, it's most likely going to be a step back for some of us. Losing HTDM is a big deal. For me, it would mean no more AltiVerb 5 on the TDM side. That would be a drag. Lee Blaske