Their Ram is supplied by 3rd party manufacturers. recently (G5 REV A / B & iMac G5 ), DDR mostly seems to be Samsung. www.memoryx.com supply Apple OEM RAm at FAR less than Apple do... However kingston RAM is just fine... as is the stuff from Crucial. for EXS and other Sample library use, the More RAM the better.. All our G5 tower systems have a minimum of 6GB now. Best regards Max On 17 Nov 2005, at 20:33, GGE7 wrote: > > >> I'm planning to buy a Quad mac. >> I heard that Kingston RAM is better than the normal Mac-RAM. Is it >> worth to put Kingston RAM in it? >> I'm gonnna work with HD3 and a lot EXS/softsynths. Is 4 GB enough for > > The only RAM I ever use is Apple or Crucial.com . Apple for obvious > warranty reasons, and > crucial, because they're the only people making the chip, the board > and the assembly > themselves. Their RAM is great. > > Alan. :)

My understanding is No. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com> To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:38:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic-PT7 question So I already do know that the ESB is out. But, does Logic TDM side work at all with the new PT7? thanks b On Nov 17, 2005, at 7:25 AM, Louis King wrote: > I got the upgrade and the plugs ..... > > making a extra start up drive to play with PT 7 > > hopefully use it all the time > > > > On Nov 17, 2005, at 8:53 AM, markus enochson wrote: > >> i mean they aim for april . that means september! >> >> i'm gonna get the upgrade plus the two plugs and just install the >> plugs for now. what are you guys getting? >> >> m >> >> 17 nov 2005 kl. 00.57 skrev Louis King: >> >>> that's pretty pathetic .... if it is april >>> >>> On Nov 16, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Peter Duemmler wrote: >>> >>>> APRIL??? >>>> O my God... :-( >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> __ >> _ >> Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/ >> L-TDM >> - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ >> search >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "One of these days the people of Louisiana are going to get good > government - and they aren't going to like it. ." Huey Long > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links

Do you expect the new quad macs will work with the combination protools 6.9/logic 7? Will protools 6.9/logic 7 work with the new PCI-express cards? Just to solve our DTDM problems with Protools 7 now... Wim

So......I would bet a few swedish kronor (the equivalent to "yen" in the western world economy...so it's not a lot, really...) that this could actually mean that one would seriously have to start consider which path to walk. Digidesign is on one hand stating that they are working close together with Apple to solve these issues, on the other they recommend everybody to switch to PC's. We're having rumours of the next Logic upgrade aimed for april, which acc. to Markus would mean september, which IS a considerable scenario indeed. And I haven't mentioned the PCI-express Mac's, or the switch to Intel processors on future Mac's. Guess we'll just have to sit back and wait. And wait. And wait.....and w.... Cheers Alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, ChaplainPC@a... wrote: > > My understanding is No. > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@m...> > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:38:42 -0800 > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic-PT7 question > > > So I already do know that the ESB is out. > > But, does Logic TDM side work at all with the new PT7? > > thanks > > b > > On Nov 17, 2005, at 7:25 AM, Louis King wrote: > > > I got the upgrade and the plugs ..... > > > > making a extra start up drive to play with PT 7 > > > > hopefully use it all the time > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 2005, at 8:53 AM, markus enochson wrote: > > > >> i mean they aim for april . that means september! > >> > >> i'm gonna get the upgrade plus the two plugs and just install the > >> plugs for now. what are you guys getting? > >> > >> m > >> > >> 17 nov 2005 kl. 00.57 skrev Louis King: > >> > >>> that's pretty pathetic .... if it is april > >>> > >>> On Nov 16, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Peter Duemmler wrote: > >>> > >>>> APRIL??? > >>>> O my God... :-( > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _____________________________________________________________________ > >> __ > >> _ > >> Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/ > >> L-TDM > >> - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > >> search > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > "One of these days the people of Louisiana are going to get good > > government - and they aren't going to like it. ." Huey Long > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > __ > > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > > TDM > > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > > search > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

Hi!... Don't know if any one run into this problem, but suddenly my TDM-audio just disappears. All audio going through ESB's still working, but all TDM just "Drop-Out" I recently installed Wave's "Vocal Bundle"-demo & FXpansions "BFD". Before that everything was working o.k. BTW - Thanks for helping me out with my former disc-problems!... Fredrik

which plugs did u get? i'm thinking of smack and revibe or possible slightly rude? m 17 nov 2005 kl. 16.25 skrev Louis King: > I got the upgrade and the plugs ..... > > making a extra start up drive to play with PT 7 > > hopefully use it all the time >

JR - Did you ever get a resolution to this problem? I may have a temporary solution for you. It just started happening to me today (well I noticed it today, but sampler editor has worked fine in the past) . I'm also running 10.3.8 - it's been working beautifully for a while (have not run the Pro App Updater for 10.3.9-nervous!), but now there seem to be some new RAM issues with my system - i recently posted here about a problem of not being able to load a file (or it's archived versions) because the system is unable to load all my sampler instruments - I get an insufficient memory message and logic crashes while loading this file. i've fixed disk permissions etc. Still troubleshooting that one. To see if the blank sample editor window was a RAM issue, I removed an RMX instantiation and a Trilogy Instantiation, and now the sampler editor is displaying correctly again, although it is still a bit inconsistent (maybe one out of every five times i try to open it, it's blank). When I reinstantiated RMX and Trilogy, the sample editor window was much less reliable. So maybe you can try to remove a few instruments or plugs and see if that helps. This "solution" would indicate an insufficient RAM situation - no? In any event, I don't think this is the long term solution, since this was all working fine for me in the past, and now it seems that my system is either not able to use all my available RAM, or more likely there is a VM swap file or disk issue. Also, even with RMX and Trilogy (and a lot more) instantiations i see in the Activity Monitor that I have 2.15 GB Free RAM and a VM file of 7.28GB, so it seems like there should be plenty of free RAM available. Not sure what the next step to troubleshoot this is but I hope this helps. Logic 7.1.0 PT HD Acel2 6.9 OSX 10.3.8 G5 dual 2 gig 4 GB Ram Michael

Mmm - I posted about this before, don't have any solid new info so I'm a bit hesitant to speculate but here it goes anyway... I doubt it will be September. Apple almost never speculates about future products or upgrades, they just don't tell you until it's ready and then they release it. Apple has told me that they're working on a Logic upgrade that will work with PT7. My guess would be that we will see this upgrade in a couple of months at most; otherwise Apple wouldn't have disclosed that they're working on it. And, if we're going to post rumours, a source inside a audio interface company who work closely with Apple told me to 'watch Logic'. So he appears to know of a significant update. My optimistic speculation would be that Apple will come with a kick-ass new version of Logic in a couple of months, featuring a complete overhaul of TDM support including R-TAS and two-way communication with the native side. Cheers, Ivo > We're having rumours of the next Logic upgrade aimed for april, which > acc. to Markus would mean september, which IS a considerable scenario indeed. > And I haven't mentioned the PCI-express Mac's, or the switch to Intel > processors > on future Mac's. > > Guess we'll just have to sit back and wait. And wait. And wait.....and w.... > > Cheers > Alar

We´ve been hoping that would happen for the last couple of years... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Ivo Witteveen wrote: > My optimistic speculation would be that Apple will come with a > kick-ass new version of Logic in a couple of months, featuring a > complete overhaul of TDM support including R-TAS and two-way > communication with the native side.

True, but until now Apple could come away with just 'patching up'. PT7 forces them to either abandon TDM or start all over again. I feared that they'd drop TDM support because of this; but now they've admitted they're working on it I think they'll try to get it right. But yeah, it is my _optimistic_ speculation... Ivo > We´ve been hoping that would happen for the last couple of years...

We´ll see. They already lost me for 95% of my work when I don´t need extensive midi. Logic would have to have sample accurate editing, ADC, complete overhaul of its tempo editing and fine editable automation and some other things to make me even think about switching back. And better support/communication would definitely help, too - this is where Digi shines today. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Ivo Witteveen wrote: > True, but until now Apple could come away with just 'patching up'. PT7 > forces them to either abandon TDM or start all over again. I feared > that they'd drop TDM support because of this; but now they've > admitted they're working on it I think they'll try to get it right. > But yeah, it is my _optimistic_ speculation... > > Ivo > >> We´ve been hoping that would happen for the last couple of years...

> My optimistic speculation would be that Apple will come with a kick- ass new version of Logic in a couple of months, featuring a complete overhaul of TDM support including R-TAS and two-way communication with the native side. YES!!! We can only dream...

> YES!!! We can only dream... ...and it never crashes, and everyday will be Christmas. best, Nathan ___ Nathan Rosenberg Music Production The Doghouse NYC www.doghouseNYC.com

With Tempo sync for TDM plug-ins ! >> My optimistic speculation would be that Apple will come with a kick- > ass new version of Logic in a couple of months, featuring a complete > overhaul of TDM support including R-TAS and two-way communication with > the native side. > > YES!!! We can only dream...

Hiya, Sorry I have been off-line for a week or two. It has been fixed for a while now. I am using Logic 10.4.2, Protools 6/9/3cs2 and Logic 7.1.1 The 7.1.1 updater fixed the problem. RMX made a difference though. I used to instantiate a separate RMX instrument per track, rather than using the multis- this is a huge resource hog- even though it is a little easier to manage the session for me. Using Multi's in RMX has relieved some of the strain, but the blank sample edit window was fixed with 7.1.1 James On Nov 18, 2005, at 6:28 PM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:13:28 -0000 > From: "tremantem" <tremantem@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Blank sample edit window > > JR - > Did you ever get a resolution to this problem? I may have a temporary > solution for you. It just started happening to me today (well I > noticed it today, > but sampler editor has worked fine in the past) . I'm also running > 10.3.8 - it's > been working beautifully for a while (have not run the Pro App > Updater for > 10.3.9-nervous!), but now there seem to be some new RAM issues with my > system - i recently posted here about a problem of not being able > to load a file > (or it's archived versions) because the system is unable to load > all my sampler > instruments - I get an insufficient memory message and logic > crashes while > loading this file. i've fixed disk permissions etc. Still > troubleshooting that one. > > To see if the blank sample editor window was a RAM issue, I > removed an > RMX instantiation and a Trilogy Instantiation, and now the sampler > editor is > displaying correctly again, although it is still a bit inconsistent > (maybe one out > of every five times i try to open it, it's blank). When I > reinstantiated RMX and > Trilogy, the sample editor window was much less reliable. So maybe > you can > try to remove a few instruments or plugs and see if that helps. > This "solution" > would indicate an insufficient RAM situation - no? > > In any event, I don't think this is the long term solution, since > this was all > working fine for me in the past, and now it seems that my system is > either not > able to use all my available RAM, or more likely there is a VM swap > file or disk > issue. Also, even with RMX and Trilogy (and a lot more) > instantiations i see in > the Activity Monitor that I have 2.15 GB Free RAM and a VM file of > 7.28GB, so > it seems like there should be plenty of free RAM available. > > Not sure what the next step to troubleshoot this is but I hope this > helps. > > Logic 7.1.0 > PT HD Acel2 6.9 > OSX 10.3.8 > G5 dual 2 gig > 4 GB Ram > > Michael

I'm pretty sure that there will be as you say an overhaul of the workings - i'm still very doubtful that we will see rtas in logic though. but the ideal would of course to have full integration of the mixer tdm,rtas,au,logic - but thats a bit far fetched - an utopia like world peace... my predictions since i feel in a "saida" (swedish people get that) kinda mood). two way integration, i:e you can route audio from tdm side of things back to native and not only like today from native to tdm the amount of channels you can route (ie esb) will be significantly larger - like 32 or even more what are your predictions and dreams? best markus ps. go do sum music now...

Well, a little life left in them for those who care. You'll need to install a fresh install of the plug, 1.1, and then upgrade to 1.2 for it to work. Messin aroud a bit with PT7. The new instrument tracks are sweet! Pete www.TheUpperRoomRecordingStudio.com

I live and work in the UK and sometimes use engineers from a very well known studio which is owned by a very well known world wide artist that has always had very close working associations with Digi and various music technology companies over the years. The conversation currently buzzing around that studio is that Digidesign are moving the next generation of Protools over to work exclusively on PC .......... is this just "idol" gossip or information that anyone else could verify-?? Best wishes to all Richard >> My optimistic speculation would be that Apple will come with a kick- > ass new version of Logic in a couple of months, featuring a complete > overhaul of TDM support including R-TAS and two-way communication with > the native side. > > YES!!! We can only dream... >

That gossips been going round the London 'studio circuit' (what's left of it) since 2002..... It's nonsense. I'm sure deep inside alot of Digi would love it to be so, but they know they'd be throwing away the majority of their HD business... so unless they go with a more 'out of the box' solution like the Venue for studio situations it isn't gonna happen anytime soon. Having said that Apple are very difficult to deal with indeed, and often piss off there suppliers, resellers and even own staff, and PT does run very well on XP as long as you can deal with all the other shit that comes with Billy's OS..... So who knows how things will be in the future. But with Digi racing to make PCI Express HD cards just at the sametime as Apple switch to the same.. it's obvious Apple support is very important to them... I take it you mean Sarm (west?) when you talk of this studio yes? Worked alot there myself a couple of years ago... and Engineers always like a good gossip ;-) Al. Alan Bailey, M.D Grizzly Media, A/V Technology,Support and Authoring www.grizzlymedia.co.uk email: alan@grizzlymedia.co.uk On 20 Nov 2005, at 10:27, Richard G. Mitchell wrote: > I live and work in the UK and sometimes use engineers from a very well > known studio which is owned by a very well known world wide artist > that > has always had very close working associations with Digi and various > music technology companies over the years. > > The conversation currently buzzing around that studio is that > Digidesign are moving the next generation of Protools over to work > exclusively on PC .......... is this just "idol" gossip or information > that anyone else could verify-?? > > Best wishes to all > Richard > > > ----------

Richard G. Mitchell <rich@rdgmitchell.co.uk> wrote: >Digidesign are moving the next generation of Protools >over to work exclusively on PC .......... is this just "idol" >gossip It's an insult to idol gossip, which at least can be based on an iota of evidence that somebody can muster up - or at least invent. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

dear all: I'm still using Waves Platiumn bundle ver 4. How can i used it on audiounit?? i saw waveshell AU in the waves folder. where should i place the waveshell?? thanks -- Thanks and regards, Bobo Mark Producer Contact: bobo@music2000.com.hk For and On behalf of Music 2000 **************************************************************************** May Music Move Your Heart

Bobo Mark <bobomarklogic@yahoo.com.hk> wrote: >I'm still using Waves Platiumn bundle ver 4. How can i used it on >audiounit?? You need to upgrade to Waves5 if you want to use it with Logic7. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Hi all, just wondering how people are going about transfers to Pro Tools. I may need to do this soon and want to get the best results. 1) Can freeze files be read in PT as 32-bit, or does PT just see them as 16 (not even 24)? 2) How best to make audio tracks out of drum samples coming out of stereo EXS that are really just mono samples with slight panning? 3) I think OMFs are still working just fine. Can anyone elucidate? Much Thanks in advance, Bill

does it matter?

Good question, whish I could help... Need to do the exact same thing. Tried 'Export: All tracks to audiofiles' but apparently this functions should be read as 'Export: all tracks (except TDM tracks of course, you stupid!) to audiofiles' because the only things that got exported where my three native tracks, not the 48 TDM tracks... For OMF you need the PT OMF options which is ridiciously expensive so I don't have that it. I don't want to bounce track-by-track in realtime so I'm now going for just merging all the regions per audiotrack, still tiresome but faster than real time. This works because I wont the raw audio, not the processing that's on the tracks. If anyone knows a better way please chime in... Regards, Ivo > Hi all, > > just wondering how people are going about transfers to Pro Tools. I may need > to do this > soon and want to get the best results. > > 1) Can freeze files be read in PT as 32-bit, or does PT just see them as 16 > (not even 24)? > > 2) How best to make audio tracks out of drum samples coming out of stereo EXS > that are > really just mono samples with slight panning? > > 3) I think OMFs are still working just fine. Can anyone elucidate? > > Much Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >