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From: Morgan Visconti <morgan@humanworldwide.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 at 9:48:58 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Bar 1 Tempo Bug back again...
Message #22551
With all the great improvements in stability that came with 7.1.1, I am disappointed to see an old bug (rather a finicky feature) return. If you create a tempo event in the tempo list view, an event also gets created at Bar 1 1 1 1. You cannot delete this event, which means you can't mess around with a global tempo at bar 13, say at SMPTE position 1:00:05:08. If you do, the tempo at bar 1 changes to compensate and it messes up the sync point. Anyone who's scored to picture knows how essential this flexibility is. It's one of Logic's finer (albeit subtle) features and this small bug ruins it. Please take it away again! Morgan Visconti human 138 5th avenue. 3rd floor, nyc, ny 10011 telephone 212 352 0211 facsimile 212 352 0210 www.humanworldwide.com
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_Häusler?= <erik@futurelove.se>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 at 9:47:59 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] DTDM Error 10011
Message #22552
This is a reply to #22550.
Mattias, JR I believe posted this link a while ago: http://advancedaudiorentals.com/ They have a page for ProTools error codes. Couldn´t find yours in there though. Didn´t find mine there neither. Suggestions anybody? /E G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.4.2, HD Accel3, PT 6.9.3cs2, L7.1.1 _______________________________ Erik Häusler Future Love Productions AB mattias_soulo: > Hi, > > How do i get rid of "direkt tdm error 10011"? > What does it mean anyway? > Anybody out there who have a god solid tip for me? > > PT hd2acc - LP 7.1 - G4 2x1.25 > > Thanks! > > Mattias - Sweden
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From: Willie Dowling <willie@dowling.swiftserve.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 at 10:02:00 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Bar 1 Tempo Bug back again...
Message #22553
This is a reply to #22551.
On 24/10/05 3:48 pm, "Morgan Visconti" <morgan@humanworldwide.com> wrote: > With all the great improvements in stability that came with 7.1.1, I > am disappointed to see an old bug (rather a finicky feature) return. > If you create a tempo event in the tempo list view, an event also > gets created at Bar 1 1 1 1. You cannot delete this event, which > means you can't mess around with a global tempo at bar 13, say at > SMPTE position 1:00:05:08. If you do, the tempo at bar 1 changes to > compensate and it messes up the sync point. > Anyone who's scored to picture knows how essential this flexibility > is. It's one of Logic's finer (albeit subtle) features and this small > bug ruins it. > Please take it away again! > > > Morgan Visconti A fellow sufferer! This is driving me nuts and slowing down every day. I'm not sure of it, but I suspect it maybe the reason why I'm experiencing more crashes than usual. Somehow, multiple tempo changes within a cue/track are a lot less reliable now and I wonder if the finger is pointing somehow to this event created at Bar 1 1 1 1? Willie Dowling -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Swift Internet, and is believed to be clean.
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From: "dogcollective" <sayfritz@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 at 10:48:20 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Automation and SMPTE lock...
Message #22554
Hey people, I've been having to make considerable tempo and arrangement changes mid-project and so SMPTE lock is the only way to handle this. My problem is this; while I can select all regions on all tracks and lock them very quickly, i cannot seem to select and lock all the automation for the whole song. I can only lock each DAE track/instrument/DTDM track one at a time, resulting in a long process of entering the automation event list for every track. Surely there must be a short cut for this i've over-looked? Also, has anyone yet installed the new pro app support 3.1 and has it been beneficial or not? Thanks, Mark Sayfritz
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From: Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@bredband.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 5:27:03 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Now a Tiger User (was CCC dependable drives?)
Message #22555
This is a reply to #22547.
> I hope you do too! > So I guess by the time you read this you´re a happy Tiger user... Yep I am now a happy Tiger User! Seems fairly stable! After an authorization nightmare with NI (servers down, keyfiles lost, etc.) I'm now really digging the NI stuff! Question: You were referring to an issue with the FM7 on the DAE side. Are you saying you can successfully instanciate other HTDM or RTAS synths on DAE Auxes in Logic?? I thought that was not possible? Is there a trick here? I would love to run NI's instruments on the DAE side of things! I can get them up, but no way I can direct MIDI to 'em....(not available in "ports") TIA, Erik
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From: "Alar Suurna" <allarts@aar.se>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 10:58:04 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Logic and BFD
Message #22556
Hi. Anybody using BFD drums w. Logic? I'm having a lot of trouble, as soon as I have more than 1 instrument up and running I get this "fast loop"-sound and Logic crashes. I'm running BFD from a DTDM instrument track, back into DAE through ESB. I know that BFD has never been the most stable of plugs, but haven't had this instability issue before. I recently installed the latest Pro App. update, maybe I shouldn't. Grateful for tips. Thanx Alar Logic 7.1.1 OS 10.4.2 G5 1.8 DP HD 3 Accel PT 6.9.2 cs2 2 Gb DDR
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From: "Alar Suurna" <allarts@aar.se>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 10:58:05 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Logic and BFD
Message #22557
Hi. Anybody using BFD drums w. Logic? I'm having a lot of trouble, as soon as I have more than 1 instrument up and running I get this "fast loop"-sound and Logic crashes. I'm running BFD from a DTDM instrument track, back into DAE through ESB. I know that BFD has never been the most stable of plugs, but haven't had this instability issue before. I recently installed the latest Pro App. update, maybe I shouldn't. Grateful for tips. Thanx Alar Logic 7.1.1 OS 10.4.2 G5 1.8 DP HD 3 Accel PT 6.9.2 cs2 2 Gb DDR
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From: "ygkaplan" <ygkaplan@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 12:09:55 PM
Subject: [L-TDM] Recording on a DTDM Audio Track
Message #22558
Hi i have a mix core system running DA and DTDM on logic 7 as well as a Motu 828 mkii for the coreaudio. I'm thinking of getting rid of my motu because i get the distortion in the playback sometimes on audio tracks. does anybody know if it is possible to record on DTDM audio tracks so i can use logic AUs? the DTDM audio tracks don't have any inputs assigned and that's here i'm stuck. thanks in advance. ykaplan
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From: Matt McKenna <skylabfilmpop@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 1:11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Recording on a DTDM Audio Track
Message #22559
This is a reply to #22558.
I'd wager tour distortion is a side effest of using both dtdm and coreaudio. Try elemimating the dtdm/esb layer and things will be happier. Whati have done in thhis situation is to change the track to a coreaudio track after recording to use AU plugs. --
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From: Jonathan Perl <jon.perl@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 1:27:43 PM
Subject: [L-TDM] Re: Automation and SMPTE lock...
Message #22560
This is a reply to #22554.
You can SMPTE-lock all Automation. Select some track automation. Open Automation List View (Key Command only). Press the "up-one- level" button in the upper left of the list, and you'll see a list of all automation "sequences" or "regions" as individual events. Select all and lock. Don't forget to unlock if you want to make any automation changes! (PITA) There is also a method to access the hidden "Automation Folder" view. Access Automation List as above in a screenset with a linked HyperEdit window. Select one of the automation events in the list, then press the "up-one-level" button in the upper left of the HyperEdit window. You'll see automation in a pseudo-arrange, as graphical regions. You can lock from here as well (you can save this as a handy screenset). > I've been having to make considerable tempo and arrangement changes > mid-project and so > SMPTE lock is the only way to handle this. > > My problem is this; while I can select all regions on all tracks > and lock them very quickly, i > cannot seem to select and lock all the automation for the whole > song. I can only lock each > DAE track/instrument/DTDM track one at a time, resulting in a long > process of entering the > automation event list for every track. > > Surely there must be a short cut for this i've over-looked? *** *** *** *** *** *** *** www.jonathanperl.com Apple Certified Trainer - Logic Pro Get the ultimate Logic Training DVD: Inside Logic Pro 7.1, at: www.digitalmediatraining.com/products/logicpro7/ Sonic Arts Center at CCNY sonic.arts.ccny.cuny.edu *** ***  *** ***
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_Häusler?= <erik@futurelove.se>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 2:20:27 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Now a Tiger User (was CCC dependable drives?)
Message #22561
This is a reply to #22555.
Hmmm, well, not really... I just tried instanciating an Indigo and quickly switching it to a pro-53, but it didn´t work out. Sorry if I let your hopes up Erik! I´ll have to see if there are any news in that department, but I fear not... Best /E Erik Sojdelius: > Are you saying you can successfully instanciate other HTDM or RTAS > synths on DAE > Auxes in Logic?? I thought that was not possible? Is there a trick > here?
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_Häusler?= <erik@futurelove.se>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 2:15:55 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Recording on a DTDM Audio Track
Message #22562
This is a reply to #22558.
How´bout recording the tracks via TDM and just moving the usable files to native audio tracks? Besides if you ask Apple kindly they might give you the codes to use EPIC/ HTDM enabler, a discontinued collection of Logic plugins for TDM use. They´ve been pretty generous in that respect lately. All the best /E 2x1.8, 4Gb RAM, OSX 10.4.2,HD Accel 3, PT 6.9.3cs2, L7.1.1 _______________________________ Erik Häusler Future Love Productions AB erik@futurelove.se ygkaplan: > does anybody know if it is possible to record on > DTDM audio tracks so i can use logic AUs?
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From: Paul Najar <paulnajar@jaminajar.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 8:31:12 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic and BFD
Message #22563
This is a reply to #22556.
On 26/10/2005, at 1:58 AM, Alar Suurna wrote: > Hi. > Anybody using BFD drums w. Logic? > I'm having a lot of trouble, > as soon as I have more than 1 instrument > up and running I get this "fast loop"-sound and Logic > crashes. I'm running BFD from a DTDM instrument track, > back into DAE through ESB. I know that BFD has never been > the most stable of plugs, but haven't had this instability issue > before. > I recently installed the latest Pro App. update, maybe I shouldn't. > Grateful for tips. Have you got the latest version? 1.5 I think it is now. This will help a lot. Try using 16 bit mode. You will also get best performance if you put the BFD samples on a drive that is not your audio drive or your other streaming libraries drive. As a final resort what core audio sample buffer are you running at? You might need to up this... You have a dual G5. I get good performance from Logic+BFD in a Dual 1GHZ G4 so it is possible. Good luck ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: Colin S Miller <logicuser@mindspring.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 9:11:19 PM
Subject: [L-TDM] Outputting TLC
Message #22564
I can't seem to find a way in Logic to send SMPTE from a unitor. Basically trying to lock an SSL to chase Logic. I can generate SMPTE as though I were striping tape, but I can'toutput SMPTE based on playing Logic. Can anyone help me out? I would hate to have to use an audio track of SMPTE. How do people do this? Colin Miller
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 at 10:10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Recording on a DTDM Audio Track
Message #22565
This is a reply to #22558.
"ygkaplan" <ygkaplan@yahoo.com> wrote: >does anybody know if it is possible to record on >DTDM audio tracks Audio can only stream from DTDM to DAE and not backwards, so it's impossible to actually record directly to DTDM tracks. Record to a DAE track and then change it to a DTDM track. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: James Richmond <richmondjames@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 at 2:01:25 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] 96k experiences
Message #22566
Hi all, how many here work at 96k? I just had a pig of a day yesterday- I bounced all the softsynths to 96k and did some tracking at this SR also. Logic was falling over, generally more sluggish. This was on a 32 stereo track mix. I exhausted the HD2 Accel within the first 1/2 of the day and spent the rest of the day trying to rejig the plugins to get maximum usage. I couldn't really here much of a difference in sound so I won't be bothering again. Anyone else? James
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From: "John C." <tonemaster@charter.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 at 4:31:51 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Outputting TLC
Message #22567
This is a reply to #22564.
MTC to LTC Converter of some type Colin S Miller wrote: >I can't seem to find a way in Logic to send SMPTE from a unitor. >Basically trying to lock an SSL to chase Logic. I can generate SMPTE as >though I were striping tape, but I can'toutput SMPTE based on playing >Logic. Can anyone help me out? I would hate to have to use an audio >track of SMPTE. How do people do this? > >Colin Miller > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM >- To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >- Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
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From: Amun Raa <twentyfiveghosts@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 at 8:39:01 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] 96k experiences
Message #22568
This is a reply to #22566.
try adding some eq above 5KHZ @ 96KHZ then you'll here the difference to 48KHZ... I know it's a little more hazzle to track and record at those s-rates...but I find it worth it 25G'S --- James Richmond <richmondjames@mac.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > how many here work at 96k? > > I just had a pig of a day yesterday- I bounced all > the softsynths to > 96k and did some tracking at this SR also. > Logic was falling over, generally more sluggish. > This was on a 32 stereo track mix. > I exhausted the HD2 Accel within the first 1/2 of > the day and spent > the rest of the day trying to rejig the plugins to > get maximum usage. > I couldn't really here much of a difference in sound > so I won't be > bothering again. > > Anyone else? > > James > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! > http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: > http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 at 10:55:56 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Outputting TLC
Message #22569
This is a reply to #22564.
Colin S Miller <logicuser@mindspring.com> wrote: >I can't seem to find a way in Logic to send SMPTE from a unitor. The Unitor can stripe LTC, but cannot output LTC based on the timecode of Logic. But the Unitor can certainly sent MTC based on the timecode of Logic. So get your self an MTC -> LTC convertor. JLCooper sold one 15 years ago. I don't know if they still do. * saying "SMPTE" isn't enough to describe the entire situation. Neither is saying "timecode". They exist in various forms. The Unitor does these: MTC: MIDI Time Code. That's timecode in MIDI form. LTC: Linear Time Code. That's timecode in audio form VTC: Vertical interval Time Code. That's timecode in every frame of the video (not visual), so that even when paused on a single frame or scrubbing fast/slow the timecode can be read. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: Will Thomson <will@dynamicaudio.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 at 12:08:42 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Outputting TLC
Message #22570
This is a reply to #22569.
Or : a s/h MOTU Digital Time piece. : the C-Lab gearbox device (can't remember what it is called, or whether they still make it). Will > But the Unitor can certainly sent MTC based on the timecode > of Logic. So get your self an MTC -> LTC convertor. > JLCooper sold one 15 years ago. I don't know if they still do.
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 at 2:21:31 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] 96k experiences
Message #22571
This is a reply to #22568.
Yes, it's most noticeable when mixing. EQ's sound smoother, reverbs have a little more detail it seems. On Oct 26, 2005, at 6:39 AM, Amun Raa wrote: > try adding some eq above 5KHZ @ 96KHZ then you'll here > the difference to 48KHZ... > > I know it's a little more hazzle to track and record > at those s-rates...but I find it worth it > > 25G'S > > --- James Richmond <richmondjames@mac.com> wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> how many here work at 96k? >> >> I just had a pig of a day yesterday- I bounced all >> the softsynths to >> 96k and did some tracking at this SR also. >> Logic was falling over, generally more sluggish. >> This was on a 32 stereo track mix. >> I exhausted the HD2 Accel within the first 1/2 of >> the day and spent >> the rest of the day trying to rejig the plugins to >> get maximum usage. >> I couldn't really here much of a difference in sound >> so I won't be >> bothering again. >> >> Anyone else? >> >> James >> >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > >> Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! >> http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM >> - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> - Search the entire archive: >> http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/search >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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From: Colin L Miller <logicuser@mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 at 3:35:30 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Outputting TLC
Message #22572
This is a reply to #22569.
f-erenc szabo wrote: > The Unitor can stripe LTC, but cannot output LTC based > on the timecode of Logic. > > But the Unitor can certainly sent MTC based on the timecode > of Logic. So get your self an MTC -> LTC convertor. > JLCooper sold one 15 years ago. I don't know if they still do. > > > * saying "SMPTE" isn't enough to describe the entire situation. > Neither is saying "timecode". They exist in various forms. > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> Obviously my accidental misspelling of LTC got by you. I must have been in too much of hurry and mixed the letters up, but since there is no format such as TLC (tender loving code?) I think it was pretty clear what I meant. (chuckle). Anyways, thanks for the advice (and from everyone). I must say though that I am a little distraught that a pro program such as Logic does not itself provide a means for outputing LTC. I haven't noticed until now because I am for the first time using Logic in a mixing session (which has been the biggest nightmare of my life). And it's just odd to me that the solution for a pro application is to find an old 3rd party piece of hardware, or print a track of SMPTE. In my case neither is worth it as I can make do with chasing LTC from an SSL. But it would be much preferred if Logic were the master. I am assuming (from my USD days) that the sync I/O is not accessible via Logic, but if this has changed, maybe someone could let me know. Colin Miller
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From: Bobo Mark <bobomarklogic@yahoo.com.hk>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 at 3:30:45 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] off topic. how can i turn off spotlight
Message #22573
sorry, i read thru the help.. but can't find a way to turn off the spotlight for DAW used.. thanks ------- Best Regards Bobo Mark "May music move your heart"
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From: James Richmond <richmondjames@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 at 3:32:29 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] off topic. how can i turn off spotlight
Message #22574
This is a reply to #22573.
> sorry, i read thru the help.. but can't find a way to turn off the > spotlight for DAW used.. > > thanks > ------- > > Best Regards > Bobo Mark Bobo, Go to System Preferences/Spotlight/Privacy and add in all the Drives you want to have excepted from searching. Regards, James Richmond
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From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@pclink.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 at 9:39:14 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] off topic. how can i turn off spotlight
Message #22575
This is a reply to #22573.
>sorry, i read thru the help.. but can't find a way to turn off the >spotlight for DAW used.. You could try it, but be wary. Sometimes disabling these sorts of components can create unique problems. Digidesign and Logic are most likely being tested on stock configurations, with Spotlight enabled. Lee Blaske
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