Hey boe: I find the solition.. u have to set Logic as same amount of voices as PT. i.e if u setup logic as 128 voices u have to set all the session in PT same as 128 voice. if not when u switch back n forth PT and logic. Logic will crash.. so far works fine for me now.. --- Boe Larsen <boe@...> »¡¡G > Hi Bobo. > > I've got exactly the same problem with my system...sorry > > Regards, > Boe > --- > G5 2.5 dual, 2.5gb ram, HD3, FW400+800, Osx 10.3.8, Logic 7.0.1, PT > 6.7cs8 > > > Den 29/07/2005 kl. 3.30 skrev Bobo Mark: > > > I have been using LP7.1 for a month now. its very good, in fact it > > sound better than ProTools. > > Now i switch back to Logic for mixing. > > > > But i can't use Logic for tracking, everytime I arm 4 to 6 tracks > > for recording, it will > > crash... but single track recording is fine. any idea?? > > > > still using G4 1.25 mirror door. with HD accel 4. with 86 i/o. but > > i test it with my home HD > > system, i also crash too. > > > > > > --- Greg Critchley <greg@...> »¡¡G > > > > > >> Hi Rob, > >> > >> Long time - hope you're well. > >> > >> Lot's of people use and love the G5/HD combo. There is one other > >> consideration, however, that might get you some more milage. > >> > >> I' running a mix plus system on a DP G4 1.25, with OSX and loving it. > >> It seems as stable as OS9, and there's enough speed for my needs, > >> which > >> are more than the track load you refer to. > >> > >> I kept OS9 on an external drive, and can boot into 9 whenever I > >> want to > >> use a plug in from that era. Now I'm open to all the great things > >> that > >> come from being on OSX, and that means I can pick and choose. I can > >> also turn any OSX instruments into audio and bring them into OS 9 > >> if I > >> want to > >> > >> > >> On Jul 28, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Rob DeBoer wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> It's been a while since I've lurked or posted here! I'm > >>> approaching a > >>> crossroads (technologically speaking) and I was hoping to get some > >>> insight from you guys. I'm sure this question has been bandied about > >>> here ad nauseum already, but here goes: > >>> > >>> I've been running a Logic/TDM Mix++ system on a G4 dual 533 for the > >>> last few years; it's been nice and stable for the most part, so I > >>> have > >>> not yet made the leap to OSX. However, I'm starting to feel like a > >>> dinosaur, running all this legacy stuff that's not supported > >>> anymore! > >>> Mainly, I can't upgrade many of my favourite plugins because they're > >>> now OSX only. > >>> > >>> So I'm looking at getting a nice fast dual G5. And honestly, I would > >>> like to be able to drop the ProTools entirely and run a nice > >>> streamlined native system. (gasp!) My reasons? The expense of > >>> upgrading to HD, having to deal with all the third-party > >>> compatibility > >>> issues, blah blah blah. > >>> > >>> So my question is, are the fastest G5s up to the task? I'll give > >>> you a > >>> brief rundown of the kind of work I do: I rarely record more than a > >>> handfull of tracks at a time; my studio is too small to track a full > >>> band, but I do track drums on occasion. Mostly solo intruments/ > >>> voices. > >>> Depending on the type of music, my mixes tend to run close to 64 > >>> tracks, plus 7 or 8 softsynths, plus Reason loaded up in the > >>> background. I often max out my TDM cards (Waves and Bomb Factory > >>> stuff > >>> mostly), and occasionally hit the ceiling on CPU usage as well, > >>> running Absynth, B4, EVP88, etc. > >>> > >>> My plan is to keep my current rig up and running, set up a native > >>> system and start putting it through its paces, to see how far I can > >>> push it. I just wanted to get a sense from you guys whether you > >>> think > >>> it's even a feasible thing to try and do! I've been spoiled by > >>> TDM as > >>> far as latency goes; is that still the big issue with new native > >>> systems? Plugins-wise, the only ones I'll really miss are the Bomb > >>> Factory ones; I know you can get the 1176 and LA-2A from UAD, but is > >>> there a good replacement for the Mooger-Fooger or Tel-Ray? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts or opinions you can offer! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > >>> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > >> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! 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Am randomly getting the above error message when opening certain songs. Song will appear to load normally - then display "DAE Error - 9035 was returned by the DAE driver" and refuse to play back any audio. Quitting and rebooting Logic solves the problem. From the Digidesign answerbase: "This error can occur when the hard drive being used for audio is near capacity." and also... "DAE error -9035 when trying to playback or record audio. This can happen if importing audio files or renaming audio files. This can also happen after creating fade files or performing Edit smoothing in Beat Detective on Pro Tools 6.0. This is a design limitation. This error message will appear if a Pro Tools session has more than 31 characters for the name in the American OS (or more than 15 characters in the Japanese OS). Also could be caused by using illegal characters ^ ! < > / ( ) - ; or international characters from other languages (any characters in the Extended ASCII set. example é à)." Does this make sense? My audio drives are not even close to capacity at the moment - and as far as the filename length issue, it doesn't seem to be the driver here as simply rebooting Logic cures the problem. Any ideas what could be causing this?

hi you should change the audio recording path it works!! ciao marco On 24/ago/05, at 17:45, Erik Huber wrote: > Am randomly getting the above error message when opening certain > songs. Song will appear to load normally - then display "DAE Error - > 9035 was returned by the DAE driver" and refuse to play back any > audio. Quitting and rebooting Logic solves the problem. > > From the Digidesign answerbase: > > "This error can occur when the hard drive being used for audio is > near capacity." > > and also... > > "DAE error -9035 when trying to playback or record audio. This can > happen if importing audio files or renaming audio files. This can > also happen after creating fade files or performing Edit smoothing in > Beat Detective on Pro Tools 6.0. > > This is a design limitation. > > This error message will appear if a Pro Tools session has more than > 31 characters for the name in the American OS (or more than 15 > characters in the Japanese OS). > Also could be caused by using illegal characters ^ ! < > / ( ) - ; > or international characters from other languages (any characters in > the Extended ASCII set. example é à)." > > Does this make sense? My audio drives are not even close to capacity > at the moment - and as far as the filename length issue, it doesn't > seem to be the driver here as simply rebooting Logic cures the > problem. > > Any ideas what could be causing this? > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Marco Zangirolami <hmar27@s...> wrote: > hi > you should change the audio recording path > it works!! > ciao > marco But - I'm not doing any recording, I'm just opening an existing song - and I get this message upon loading. No recording is taking place. Weird huh?

Hi all. I was forced to work with Logic today, since there was no time for OMF-ing everything to PT, and I also had to work with the EXS in realtime during the mix, so....back to problems. I posted about this a while ago, but here's what happens again: Everything went fine until it was time for mixdown. Since I use a console, I'm feeding the mix to a stereotrack in Logic through an outboard AD-converter. The record path thing is as sluggish as ever, so I cleared the record path, in order to create a new one to a separate folder. As I always do. I hit the record button, fine, but wen I hit stop I get the following error: "File not found-43" Ok. Next error screen: "Error code-43 returned by the DTDM driver". Ok. Next: "Logic needs more memory to draw waveforms". Ok. Result: 2 greyed-out regions. When I try to locate the files by clicking the region, I find them on the disc, but an alert tells me that the soundfiles are too short and asks me if I want to use them anyway. Ok, then crash! Phew.... The recorded files do show up on the disc, and although correctly named with .L and .R suffix'es for linked stereo, when I try to import them back into Logic, they no longer show up as stereolinked files, only 2 mono. Also the names are changed in a cryptical manner. What is this? I've tried to correct the permissions, set different record paths, nothing helps. And I use the internal S-ATA drives, no Firewire. Sorry to bother you again with this, but it drives me nuts, If anybody has a clue, please give some advice. I've recently updated to Tiger, but the same problem occurred randomly under 10.3.8 as well. Oh yeah, another thing, imported the mixfiles into Waveburner, it worked but the length of the mix was suddenly 14 minutes instead of 3.50.......just to add to the confusion. Logic 7.1 PT 6.9.2cs2 G5 1.8 DP, 2 Gb DDR HD 3 accel 10.4.2 Pro app. package for Tiger. Peace Alar

Hi Alar, Have you ever run the Apple Hardware Test on this computer? It's contained with your original OS install disks. Worth I try. Mark --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Alar Suurna" <allarts@a...> wrote: > Hi all. > I was forced to work with Logic today, since there was no time > for OMF-ing everything to PT, and I also had to work with > the EXS in realtime during the mix, so....back to problems. > > I posted about this a while ago, but here's what happens again: > > Everything went fine until it was time for mixdown. Since I use a > console, I'm feeding the mix to a stereotrack in Logic through an > outboard AD-converter. > > The record path thing is as sluggish as ever, so I cleared the record path, > in order to create a new one to a separate > folder. As I always do. I hit the record button, fine, but wen I > hit stop I get the following error: "File not found-43" Ok. Next > error screen: "Error code-43 returned by the DTDM driver". Ok. > Next: "Logic needs more memory to draw waveforms". Ok. Result: 2 > greyed-out regions. When I try to locate the files by clicking the region, > I find them on the disc, but an alert tells me that the soundfiles are too short > and asks me if I want to use them anyway. Ok, then crash! Phew.... > > The recorded files do show up on the disc, and although correctly > named with .L and .R suffix'es for linked stereo, when I try to import them > back into Logic, they no longer show up as stereolinked files, only 2 mono. > Also the names are changed in a cryptical manner. What is this? > I've tried to correct the permissions, set different record paths, nothing helps. > And I use the internal S-ATA drives, no Firewire. > > Sorry to bother you again with this, but it drives me nuts, If > anybody has a clue, please give some advice. > > I've recently updated to Tiger, but the same problem occurred randomly > under 10.3.8 as well. > > Oh yeah, another thing, imported the mixfiles into Waveburner, it worked > but the length of the mix was suddenly 14 minutes instead of 3.50.......just > to add to the confusion. > > Logic 7.1 > PT 6.9.2cs2 > G5 1.8 DP, 2 Gb DDR > HD 3 accel > 10.4.2 > Pro app. package for Tiger. > > Peace > Alar

It¹s possible the song has a recording path that does not exist or has incorrect permissions. Try changing the song & global record paths after you get the error, then save and close the song, then re-open it to test. Also, check the permissions on your record path folder. * Dave On 8/24/05 9:07 AM, "Erik Huber" <erockerboy@...> wrote: > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Marco Zangirolami <hmar27@s...> wrote: >> > hi >> > you should change the audio recording path >> > it works!! >> > ciao >> > marco > > But - I'm not doing any recording, I'm just opening an existing song - > and I get this message upon loading. No recording is taking place. > > Weird huh? > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Alar This really sounds like messed up permissions ­ Logic can write some but not all of the files it needs. I don¹t know why but sometimes OS X resets remissions randomly, expecially if your audio drive has any files on it that were originally copied from read-only CD¹s. Try downloading the freeware utility BatChMod from download.com or version tracker. Make sure to get the most recent version. With that utility you can set permissions for your whole audio drive or any folder and its subfolders. That could solve your problem. Good Luck! * Dave -- -- David Gordon Composer/Producer www.sequoiarecords.com On 8/24/05 9:22 AM, "Alar Suurna" <allarts@...> wrote: > Hi all. > I was forced to work with Logic today, since there was no time > for OMF-ing everything to PT, and I also had to work with > the EXS in realtime during the mix, so....back to problems. > > I posted about this a while ago, but here's what happens again: > > Everything went fine until it was time for mixdown. Since I use a > console, I'm feeding the mix to a stereotrack in Logic through an > outboard AD-converter. > > The record path thing is as sluggish as ever, so I cleared the record path, > in order to create a new one to a separate > folder. As I always do. I hit the record button, fine, but wen I > hit stop I get the following error: "File not found-43" Ok. Next > error screen: "Error code-43 returned by the DTDM driver". Ok. > Next: "Logic needs more memory to draw waveforms". Ok. Result: 2 > greyed-out regions. When I try to locate the files by clicking the region, > I find them on the disc, but an alert tells me that the soundfiles are too > short > and asks me if I want to use them anyway. Ok, then crash! Phew.... > > The recorded files do show up on the disc, and although correctly > named with .L and .R suffix'es for linked stereo, when I try to import them > back into Logic, they no longer show up as stereolinked files, only 2 mono. > Also the names are changed in a cryptical manner. What is this? > I've tried to correct the permissions, set different record paths, nothing > helps. > And I use the internal S-ATA drives, no Firewire. > > Sorry to bother you again with this, but it drives me nuts, If > anybody has a clue, please give some advice. > > I've recently updated to Tiger, but the same problem occurred randomly > under 10.3.8 as well. > > Oh yeah, another thing, imported the mixfiles into Waveburner, it worked > but the length of the mix was suddenly 14 minutes instead of 3.50.......just > to add to the confusion. > > Logic 7.1 > PT 6.9.2cs2 > G5 1.8 DP, 2 Gb DDR > HD 3 accel > 10.4.2 > Pro app. package for Tiger. > > Peace > Alar > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hi Boe, this is weird, I've never had this issue... I would consider getting PT 6.9 and LP7.1, my configuration of OSX 10.3.8/PT6.9cs1/LP7.1 is definitely the most stable config since my jump to OSX ATB, Erik

>Hi all. >I was forced to work with Logic today, since there was no time >for OMF-ing everything to PT, and I also had to work with >the EXS in realtime during the mix, so....back to problems. How much stuff are you playing back with EXS-24? Perhaps you're close to having your memory filled up. That could make a lot of things flaky. Do you have streaming enabled in EXS-24, or are you just playing back from RAM? If you're just playing back from RAM, turning the streaming on could free up a lot of memory. Lee Blaske

Hi Dave and all, thanks for all the hints! Finally I got it working. I don't belive it's the permissions, I really checked that several times. But I will surely try the software you recommended, Dave. Somethings gotta be quite wrong if you'd need a third party software to get the permissions right, don't you think? What I did was that I changed my record path, created another folder with no swedish letters, å, ä ö, anywhere. Then it worked for 2 downmixes, but on the 3'rd, same shit. Don't know why. I then tried to limit the size of the names of my soundfiles in the new record path and again, it worked. At least I was able to finish the project. This doesn't make any sense. My partner had these problems also from time to time on his second computer (new G5) but usually they're solved after changing record path or saving the song as a project to another drive. (Permission issue again?) Don't know why this only happens in Logic. No problems whatsoever with "The Other Program.." (PT) About the EXS, Lee, I had only one EXS with a very small sized perc. program loaded so I really doubt that it could be the problem. Have had other mix projects with a very heavy load on the CPU and maxed-out RAM with none of these issues. But, on the other hand, I did have quite a few Altiverb 5's going, maybe that could cause some of the errors. Then, on the third hand, I've had another projects with just as many altiverbs without problems etc etc etc....Who knows? Apple? Digidesign? The plug-in makers? My mother? Anyway, I can go home now to get some sleep...... Thanx a lot to you all, cheers! alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, David Gordon <music-pro@c...> wrote: > Alar > > This really sounds like messed up permissions ­ Logic can write some but not > all of the files it needs. I don¹t know why but sometimes OS X resets > remissions randomly, expecially if your audio drive has any files on it that > were originally copied from read-only CD¹s. > > Try downloading the freeware utility BatChMod from download.com or version > tracker. Make sure to get the most recent version. > > With that utility you can set permissions for your whole audio drive or any > folder and its subfolders. That could solve your problem. > > Good Luck! > > * Dave > > > -- > -- > David Gordon > Composer/Producer > www.sequoiarecords.com > > > > > On 8/24/05 9:22 AM, "Alar Suurna" <allarts@a...> wrote: > > > Hi all. > > I was forced to work with Logic today, since there was no time > > for OMF-ing everything to PT, and I also had to work with > > the EXS in realtime during the mix, so....back to problems. > > > > I posted about this a while ago, but here's what happens again: > > > > Everything went fine until it was time for mixdown. Since I use a > > console, I'm feeding the mix to a stereotrack in Logic through an > > outboard AD-converter. > > > > The record path thing is as sluggish as ever, so I cleared the record path, > > in order to create a new one to a separate > > folder. As I always do. I hit the record button, fine, but wen I > > hit stop I get the following error: "File not found-43" Ok. Next > > error screen: "Error code-43 returned by the DTDM driver". Ok. > > Next: "Logic needs more memory to draw waveforms". Ok. Result: 2 > > greyed-out regions. When I try to locate the files by clicking the region, > > I find them on the disc, but an alert tells me that the soundfiles are too > > short > > and asks me if I want to use them anyway. Ok, then crash! Phew.... > > > > The recorded files do show up on the disc, and although correctly > > named with .L and .R suffix'es for linked stereo, when I try to import them > > back into Logic, they no longer show up as stereolinked files, only 2 mono. > > Also the names are changed in a cryptical manner. What is this? > > I've tried to correct the permissions, set different record paths, nothing > > helps. > > And I use the internal S-ATA drives, no Firewire. > > > > Sorry to bother you again with this, but it drives me nuts, If > > anybody has a clue, please give some advice. > > > > I've recently updated to Tiger, but the same problem occurred randomly > > under 10.3.8 as well. > > > > Oh yeah, another thing, imported the mixfiles into Waveburner, it worked > > but the length of the mix was suddenly 14 minutes instead of 3.50.......just > > to add to the confusion. > > > > Logic 7.1 > > PT 6.9.2cs2 > > G5 1.8 DP, 2 Gb DDR > > HD 3 accel > > 10.4.2 > > Pro app. package for Tiger. > > > > Peace > > Alar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@...m > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dave, forgot to ask you, do you really mean that these problems could occur by having some soundfiles, not all, in a song with wrong permissions? I did copy most of the files for the mix from a read-only CD, but I changed the permissions on the mix folder, checked it several times. I had no problems doing Audiosuite changes to some of these files, which I trust i would have if I wouldn't be allowed to read-write? I also did some add. recording prior to the mix. In that case, what's the difference between Logic and PT reg this, do you know? Cheers Alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, David Gordon <music-pro@c...> wrote: > Alar > > This really sounds like messed up permissions ­ Logic can write some but not > all of the files it needs. I don¹t know why but sometimes OS X resets > remissions randomly, expecially if your audio drive has any files on it that > were originally copied from read-only CD¹s. > > Try downloading the freeware utility BatChMod from download.com or version > tracker. Make sure to get the most recent version. > > With that utility you can set permissions for your whole audio drive or any > folder and its subfolders. That could solve your problem. > > Good Luck! > > * Dave > > > -- > -- > David Gordon > Composer/Producer > www.sequoiarecords.com > > > > > On 8/24/05 9:22 AM, "Alar Suurna" <allarts@a...> wrote: > > > Hi all. > > I was forced to work with Logic today, since there was no time > > for OMF-ing everything to PT, and I also had to work with > > the EXS in realtime during the mix, so....back to problems. > > > > I posted about this a while ago, but here's what happens again: > > > > Everything went fine until it was time for mixdown. Since I use a > > console, I'm feeding the mix to a stereotrack in Logic through an > > outboard AD-converter. > > > > The record path thing is as sluggish as ever, so I cleared the record path, > > in order to create a new one to a separate > > folder. As I always do. I hit the record button, fine, but wen I > > hit stop I get the following error: "File not found-43" Ok. Next > > error screen: "Error code-43 returned by the DTDM driver". Ok. > > Next: "Logic needs more memory to draw waveforms". Ok. Result: 2 > > greyed-out regions. When I try to locate the files by clicking the region, > > I find them on the disc, but an alert tells me that the soundfiles are too > > short > > and asks me if I want to use them anyway. Ok, then crash! Phew.... > > > > The recorded files do show up on the disc, and although correctly > > named with .L and .R suffix'es for linked stereo, when I try to import them > > back into Logic, they no longer show up as stereolinked files, only 2 mono. > > Also the names are changed in a cryptical manner. What is this? > > I've tried to correct the permissions, set different record paths, nothing > > helps. > > And I use the internal S-ATA drives, no Firewire. > > > > Sorry to bother you again with this, but it drives me nuts, If > > anybody has a clue, please give some advice. > > > > I've recently updated to Tiger, but the same problem occurred randomly > > under 10.3.8 as well. > > > > Oh yeah, another thing, imported the mixfiles into Waveburner, it worked > > but the length of the mix was suddenly 14 minutes instead of 3.50.......just > > to add to the confusion. > > > > Logic 7.1 > > PT 6.9.2cs2 > > G5 1.8 DP, 2 Gb DDR > > HD 3 accel > > 10.4.2 > > Pro app. package for Tiger. > > > > Peace > > Alar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@...m > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi All, thanks for all the help so far. An old problem has come back to haunt logic - audio file auditioning. Last night logic 7.1 started refusing to audition most of the audio files on my drive in the import window. I assume most people here must have had this problem before as I remember this often happening on previous set ups over the last 3 yrs on logic and HD, however this is the first time i've experienced it in the month i've been running tiger and 7.1. Its was occurring in a brand new project rather than a previously worked on song. The files it refused to audition are all interleaved stereo 16 bit 44.1s. I checked that the audio window driver selected was DTDM rather than DAE and my project sample rate was 44.1 but no joy at all. Also, a few of the files were playing back at half speed - surely thats a sample rate issue, but the files are 44.1 which matches the logic project. I have auditioned these files before so I'm sure I can get around this and have done in the past - I just can't remember how! (its just crossed my mind that it might be that old chestnut permissions so unless anyone has other ideas i'll check that tonight after work). Best regards to all of you guys, Amory. Logic 7.1 OSX 10.4 (pro app updated) HD2 PT 6.92

Alar, I've been following this with some amazement and I share your frustration. (But not your issues, per se) Now it strikes me: Are you running sound files from different locations or even different drives in the same song? If not, just disregard this contribution. I had some serious trouble with this when I made the jump to OSX. So much that I early on decided to simply never do it. After that decision I've had none of those particular issues, mind you, plenty of others. All The Best, Erik

hello guys. '' is there a really smart way of importing plugin settings and channels from non tdm systems logic files version 5? they come up as direct in out on the session but the plugs are disabled and no way of opening them to either save or look at the settings. producing an album here for someone and the demos come this way. the work around involes a pc laptop, logic 5.5 etc etc.. it works but its a long work around. markus

Tack Erik, no, I always try to run the soundfiles from one location only. As said, sometimes it helps to save the song as a project to be sure that everything is in one place only, but this time even that didn't help. The strange thing is that this usually occurs when it's time for mixdown, not before. I could do some add. recording of live stuff without problems. It's like Logic senses that it's time to finish up and thinks; ok, let's give him hell...! Does the hardware test tell if your computer is haunted....? Cheers Alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: > Alar, I've been following this with some amazement and I share your > frustration. (But not your issues, per se) > > Now it strikes me: Are you running sound files from different locations or > even different drives in the same song? If not, just disregard this > contribution. > > I had some serious trouble with this when I made the jump to OSX. So much > that I early on decided to simply never do it. After that decision I've had > none of those particular issues, mind you, plenty of others. > > All The Best, > > Erik

Hi, It's so far... I am mad using a crashing Logic with a such expensive system wondering everyday what I can expect for new bugs and errors. So I want to change my Logic TDM System to native one for arranging and use ProTools for mixing, recording and other audio-related work (hoping that ProTools is going further with it's midi-part to jump over completely). I got a few last question before I leave this group and die happy by knowing I have done what I could and not what my system allows me to do. - To get my Midi-Enviroment into Logic: Is it fast enough to use a Input-Object or is it really impossible so I have to use a hardware mixer to get a few Keyboards into my arrange? - AFAIK are there a lot people outside which are running ProTools and Logic simultaneously. I don't want to sync them. With CoreAudio I am able to bounce offline and export all tracks offline and separately to audio and import that to PT. Anything about that? Is a G5 Dual 2.0 fast enough to handle that? - The most important question: I have done a lot of mixes and productions within Logic using TDM and there are much remakes to do (like an extra mix for dvd, live-performances, new editions, etc.). Am I able to get them into ProTools? I mean I know that there comes a lot of work with changing to that, but is it possible to change easily the DTDM instruments to CoreAudio and export the audio-files to ProTools? How can I do that? Someone experienced in something like that? Something else that would perhaps stop me someone can imagine? This is a great list. I will lost a tear if I really have to leave you, but I can't live that way anymore. In fact there are a few health problems here (concerning my chief) that are caused among other things through stress through the crashes and non workable situations... Thanks a lot and best wishes, Axel

Sounds like "irreconcilable differences" to me. Contemplating divorce is always painful. Sounds like you might have enough nerve to do it. I feel your pain! Pete -----Original Message----- From: Axel Rohrbach <axel@...> To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:58:01 +0200 Subject: [L-TDM] Need help for leaving this group ;-) Hi, It's so far... I am mad using a crashing Logic with a such expensive system wondering everyday what I can expect for new bugs and errors. So I want to change my Logic TDM System to native one for arranging and use ProTools for mixing, recording and other audio-related work (hoping that ProTools is going further with it's midi-part to jump over completely). I got a few last question before I leave this group and die happy by knowing I have done what I could and not what my system allows me to do. - To get my Midi-Enviroment into Logic: Is it fast enough to use a Input-Object or is it really impossible so I have to use a hardware mixer to get a few Keyboards into my arrange? - AFAIK are there a lot people outside which are running ProTools and Logic simultaneously. I don't want to sync them. With CoreAudio I am able to bounce offline and export all tracks offline and separately to audio and import that to PT. Anything about that? Is a G5 Dual 2.0 fast enough to handle that? - The most important question: I have done a lot of mixes and productions within Logic using TDM and there are much remakes to do (like an extra mix for dvd, live-performances, new editions, etc.). Am I able to get them into ProTools? I mean I know that there comes a lot of work with changing to that, but is it possible to change easily the DTDM instruments to CoreAudio and export the audio-files to ProTools? How can I do that? Someone experienced in something like that? Something else that would perhaps stop me someone can imagine? This is a great list. I will lost a tear if I really have to leave you, but I can't live that way anymore. In fact there are a few health problems here (concerning my chief) that are caused among other things through stress through the crashes and non workable situations... Thanks a lot and best wishes, Axel Yahoo! Groups Links

Axel, where are you located? Maybe I could come over and check your system? Logic IS crashing much more than it should and PT is getting WAY better, but it should be usable... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Am 25.08.2005 um 17:58 schrieb Axel Rohrbach: > Hi, > > It's so far... I am mad using a crashing Logic with a such expensive > system wondering everyday what I can expect for new bugs and errors. > > So I want to change my Logic TDM System to native one for arranging > and use ProTools for mixing, recording and other audio-related work > (hoping that ProTools is going further with it's midi-part to jump > over completely). > > I got a few last question before I leave this group and die happy by > knowing I have done what I could and not what my system allows me > to do. > > - To get my Midi-Enviroment into Logic: Is it fast enough to use a > Input-Object or is it really impossible so I have to use a hardware > mixer to get a few Keyboards into my arrange? > > - AFAIK are there a lot people outside which are running ProTools and > Logic simultaneously. I don't want to sync them. With CoreAudio I am > able to bounce offline and export all tracks offline and separately > to audio and import that to PT. Anything about that? Is a G5 Dual 2.0 > fast enough to handle that? > > - The most important question: I have done a lot of mixes and > productions within Logic using TDM and there are much remakes to do > (like an extra mix for dvd, live-performances, new editions, etc.). > Am I able to get them into ProTools? I mean I know that there comes a > lot of work with changing to that, but is it possible to change > easily the DTDM instruments to CoreAudio and export the audio-files > to ProTools? How can I do that? Someone experienced in something like > that? > > Something else that would perhaps stop me someone can imagine? > > This is a great list. I will lost a tear if I really have to leave > you, but I can't live that way anymore. In fact there are a few > health problems here (concerning my chief) that are caused among > other things through stress through the crashes and non workable > situations... > > Thanks a lot and best wishes, > > Axel > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

Axel, I can feel your pain and I know just exactly how it feels. That's why I took the leap to ProTools a while ago, although I was forced to work with Logic on my most recent project, as you can see in my previous posts here..... It's a world of difference to work in ProTools since it's stable and solid and when you pass that first threshold on the learning curve you really come to enjoy the audio handling and automation which is way ahead of Logic. Not to mention surroundmixing. The only drawback is the MIDI, which works fine though, but it doesn't come near Logic's capabilitys. I miss the softsynths and some of the native plugs. Also the GUI of the arrange window is nicer in Logic. But for me, stability is no.1! Customers and family's doesn't like crashing computers.... It's not a big deal to convert Logic sessions into PT. In logic you can easily create soundfiles from your native synthtracks offline by choosing "Export track as soundfile" in the File menu, and then import them into PT. Also you should get Digitranslator in order to open OMF-files in PT. You can then easily export the entire Logic song as an OMF file. That way you dont have to bounce your soundfiles in Logic, saves a lot of time, and your Logic regions shows up exactly in the same place in the PT song. It's also easy as a pancake (sorry,swedish expression) to export and import MIDI tracks for your outboard synths. I haven't given up completely about Logic yet, but for the time beeing I will do my best to stay away from it, at least until the Apple people comes to the understanding that what we need now is stability and bugfixes, not more plugs, synths and fancy bling-bling... And if they ran their heads in the wall reg. fixing the TDM support of the program they might as well tell us NOW instead of keeping us in this limbo-existens. Then it would be a lot easier to take measures for the future. Right? Or wrong? Good Luck! Alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Axel Rohrbach <axel@x> wrote: > Hi, > > It's so far... I am mad using a crashing Logic with a such expensive > system wondering everyday what I can expect for new bugs and errors. > > So I want to change my Logic TDM System to native one for arranging > and use ProTools for mixing, recording and other audio-related work > (hoping that ProTools is going further with it's midi-part to jump > over completely). > > I got a few last question before I leave this group and die happy by > knowing I have done what I could and not what my system allows me to do. > > - To get my Midi-Enviroment into Logic: Is it fast enough to use a > Input-Object or is it really impossible so I have to use a hardware > mixer to get a few Keyboards into my arrange? > > - AFAIK are there a lot people outside which are running ProTools and > Logic simultaneously. I don't want to sync them. With CoreAudio I am > able to bounce offline and export all tracks offline and separately > to audio and import that to PT. Anything about that? Is a G5 Dual 2.0 > fast enough to handle that? > > - The most important question: I have done a lot of mixes and > productions within Logic using TDM and there are much remakes to do > (like an extra mix for dvd, live-performances, new editions, etc.). > Am I able to get them into ProTools? I mean I know that there comes a > lot of work with changing to that, but is it possible to change > easily the DTDM instruments to CoreAudio and export the audio-files > to ProTools? How can I do that? Someone experienced in something like > that? > > Something else that would perhaps stop me someone can imagine? > > This is a great list. I will lost a tear if I really have to leave > you, but I can't live that way anymore. In fact there are a few > health problems here (concerning my chief) that are caused among > other things through stress through the crashes and non workable > situations... > > Thanks a lot and best wishes, > > Axel

Hi Erik Sorry, my software are all newest versions... still not working. Dunno why :-( Regards, Boe Den 24/08/2005 kl. 16.17 skrev Erik Sojdelius: > Hi Boe, this is weird, I've never had this issue... > > I would consider getting PT 6.9 and LP7.1, my configuration of OSX > 10.3.8/PT6.9cs1/LP7.1 is definitely the most stable config since my > jump to > OSX > > ATB, > > Erik > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hi Bobo Thanks - I will try it! Regards, Boe Den 24/08/2005 kl. 16.51 skrev Bobo Mark: > > Hey boe: > > I find the solition.. u have to set Logic as same amount of voices > as PT. i.e if u setup logic > as 128 voices u have to set all the session in PT same as 128 > voice. if not when u switch back n > forth PT and logic. Logic will crash.. > > so far works fine for me now.. > > > > --- Boe Larsen <boe@...> 說： > > >> Hi Bobo. >> >> I've got exactly the same problem with my system...sorry >> >> Regards, >> Boe >> --- >> G5 2.5 dual, 2.5gb ram, HD3, FW400+800, Osx 10.3.8, Logic 7.0.1, PT >> 6.7cs8 >> >> >> Den 29/07/2005 kl. 3.30 skrev Bobo Mark: >> >> >>> I have been using LP7.1 for a month now. its very good, in fact it >>> sound better than ProTools. >>> Now i switch back to Logic for mixing. >>> >>> But i can't use Logic for tracking, everytime I arm 4 to 6 tracks >>> for recording, it will >>> crash... but single track recording is fine. any idea?? >>> >>> still using G4 1.25 mirror door. with HD accel 4. with 86 i/o. but >>> i test it with my home HD >>> system, i also crash too. >>> >>> >>> --- Greg Critchley <greg@...> 說： >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Rob, >>>> >>>> Long time - hope you're well. >>>> >>>> Lot's of people use and love the G5/HD combo. There is one other >>>> consideration, however, that might get you some more milage. >>>> >>>> I' running a mix plus system on a DP G4 1.25, with OSX and >>>> loving it. >>>> It seems as stable as OS9, and there's enough speed for my needs, >>>> which >>>> are more than the track load you refer to. >>>> >>>> I kept OS9 on an external drive, and can boot into 9 whenever I >>>> want to >>>> use a plug in from that era. Now I'm open to all the great things >>>> that >>>> come from being on OSX, and that means I can pick and choose. I can >>>> also turn any OSX instruments into audio and bring them into OS 9 >>>> if I >>>> want to >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 28, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Rob DeBoer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> It's been a while since I've lurked or posted here! I'm >>>>> approaching a >>>>> crossroads (technologically speaking) and I was hoping to get some >>>>> insight from you guys. I'm sure this question has been bandied >>>>> about >>>>> here ad nauseum already, but here goes: >>>>> >>>>> I've been running a Logic/TDM Mix++ system on a G4 dual 533 for >>>>> the >>>>> last few years; it's been nice and stable for the most part, so I >>>>> have >>>>> not yet made the leap to OSX. However, I'm starting to feel like a >>>>> dinosaur, running all this legacy stuff that's not supported >>>>> anymore! >>>>> Mainly, I can't upgrade many of my favourite plugins because >>>>> they're >>>>> now OSX only. >>>>> >>>>> So I'm looking at getting a nice fast dual G5. And honestly, I >>>>> would >>>>> like to be able to drop the ProTools entirely and run a nice >>>>> streamlined native system. (gasp!) My reasons? The expense of >>>>> upgrading to HD, having to deal with all the third-party >>>>> compatibility >>>>> issues, blah blah blah. >>>>> >>>>> So my question is, are the fastest G5s up to the task? I'll give >>>>> you a >>>>> brief rundown of the kind of work I do: I rarely record more >>>>> than a >>>>> handfull of tracks at a time; my studio is too small to track a >>>>> full >>>>> band, but I do track drums on occasion. Mostly solo intruments/ >>>>> voices. >>>>> Depending on the type of music, my mixes tend to run close to 64 >>>>> tracks, plus 7 or 8 softsynths, plus Reason loaded up in the >>>>> background. I often max out my TDM cards (Waves and Bomb Factory >>>>> stuff >>>>> mostly), and occasionally hit the ceiling on CPU usage as well, >>>>> running Absynth, B4, EVP88, etc. >>>>> >>>>> My plan is to keep my current rig up and running, set up a native >>>>> system and start putting it through its paces, to see how far I >>>>> can >>>>> push it. I just wanted to get a sense from you guys whether you >>>>> think >>>>> it's even a feasible thing to try and do! I've been spoiled by >>>>> TDM as >>>>> far as latency goes; is that still the big issue with new native >>>>> systems? Plugins-wise, the only ones I'll really miss are the Bomb >>>>> Factory ones; I know you can get the 1176 and LA-2A from UAD, >>>>> but is >>>>> there a good replacement for the Mooger-Fooger or Tel-Ray? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts or opinions you can offer! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >>>>> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks and regards, >>> >>> Bobo Mark >>> Producer >>> Contact: bobo@... >>> For and On behalf of Music 2000 >>> >>> ******************************************************************** >>> ** >>> ****** >>> May Music Move Your Heart >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > === message truncated === > > > -- > Thanks and regards, > > Bobo Mark > Producer > Contact: bobo@... > For and On behalf of Music 2000 > > ********************************************************************** > ****** > May Music Move Your Heart > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

After a couple of years I have to do some work in Logic again. So I finally updated to 7.1 and have a few basic questions. 1 Every now and then I get the old "can't sync audio to midi" message. This is playing back one audio track with no midi. I seem to recall there was a fix for this. 2 I want the transport to return to the last insertion point, as in ProTools. I don't want it to play from where I stopped. I know I can hit option space bar to achieve this but is there a way I can set up a one key command? (I also know that I can hit "enter" twice but I want to :Play, Stop, Play from same position.....3 hits) 3 This one has got me stumped. I use a Logitech 4 button scroll wheel mouse. It has its own control panel that allows me to assign keystrokes and modifiers to each button. I remember in the "old days" I had this great system with Logic where I could click the right button, which would give me the magnifying tool, click again and select my edit area(left button I think) which would give me my desired zoom, click away from the track with the zoomer (left button again) and then get rid of the magnifier with the right click..............or was it a double click on "escape"? It was extremely fast to zoom around and the one thing I still miss most in PTools. Anyway I think I've tried every combo and I can't get this or anything like it to work. Is there a method or what do most people use for fast zooming and selecting areas and returning to a zoomed out view? 4 Why can't I access my F13 F14 and F15 keys in the key command window? I looked for a system global but can't locate it. Thanks for your patience. Phil Buckle. *********************************** http://philbuckle.com/ ***********************************

Just a heads up for everyone. On a good friends recommendatiion and after MUCH compatibility and other headaches I have found a (knock on wood!) stable Logic Protools setup. Here's what I do. Protools mix hardware Mix core 882/20 Adat bridge And Motu Firewire 828 I use the MOTU 828 to bus the CoreAudio instruments and tracks to the DAE level of my environment by running out through the 828 and into my adat bridge. On a HD this would be easily accomplished by using the digital ins of the 192 I/O. I am only two 3 minute cues into it but all is working well now that DTDM and ESB are out of the mix. The additional bonus is that the 828 is a 20 channel standalone mixer so all of my external synths, drum machines and samplers including Gigasampler in the adat chain are pluged into and submixed through this all of which gives me more voices and processing in my tdm/dae tracks. I have strictly adhered to the approved Os for my protools hardware 10.3.8 in my case and had to beb resourceful finding the correct drivers and updates for my interface, native instruments etc. I am enjoying my experience with Logic so far as a sequencer for doing music to picture. The tempo mapping features are priceless. Its a shame that given its extremely open architecture its so poorly supported. It seems like Apple is delegating its R/D and manual writing and support to its customers. Good luck to all! MATT

Hello, I haven't read anything new about Logic Pro+Tiger on TDM. I'd love to switch to Tiger like in my native setup, but I heard of a lot of people with serious problems after the upgrade. It's adviceable or not? My setup is G5 dual 2,5 ghz, 4,5 GB ram, OSX 10.3.8, HD3+192+96i I/O, FW800 external drive, Pro Tools 6.7, Logic Pro 7.1 Thanks in advance for any input:-) Ciao Fabio