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From: "joe_koolfr" <joecool@...>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 at 10:52:05 PM
Subject: Any one interested...
Message #21401
Hi fellowes, Any one interested in a group about logic-tdm 6.4.3 with MIX Hardware? (means MAC OS 10.3.4 , and the unsuported version of Logic). BTW, does LP 7.1 works with OS10.3.4 and Mix Hardware?? Thank's Joe
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From: khaarmeyer@...
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 at 9:23:43 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Any one interested...I am
Message #21402
I would be, please keep me posted. I am using 6.4.2 with mix. does 6.4.3 make asny difference? where could I get a copy of 6.4.3
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From: "amenevt" <amenevt@...>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 at 4:27:43 AM
Subject: Can you use EXS24 HD in Protools?
Message #21403
After installing Logic pro 7.1 on a system with protool 6.9, OSX 10.3.8 I didn't find the EXS24 HD plugin in the list of inserts. It is in the plug-in folder of pro-tools however. Can anyone tell me if I can use the EXS24 HD in Protools? Tjaart Venema
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From: "remixer909" <remixer909@...>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 at 9:18:37 AM
Subject: An assortment of problems...help yourself:-)
Message #21404
Hi everyone! Welcome me:-) I'm a long-time lurker, but first time poster, but I hope to become much more active and hope to contribute a lot. First, my setup: Dual G5, OSX 10.3.5, ProTools HD2 Accel TDM 6.9, 96 I/O + 1622(legacy) Logic Pro 7.0: Core Audio disabled. DAE& DTDM enabled. I realize I'm not totally up to date on OS or Logic, but I'm a little hesitant to do the Tiger update until I know that all my plug-ins and and all functions of Logic 7.1 will work back with the TDM hardware, vise versa. I know many of you are happy with it. Anyway, that's not my question. And, I'm pretty sure this software version combo isn't to blame for my problems. Okay, on to them. I'm experiencing a number of weird little happenings, and I'm thinking they all stem back to one main issue. Trying to FIND that issue, though, is puzzling me. Please, any and all help and direction pointing would be SO VERY much appreciated!!! In no particular order, here are some of my symptoms 1) When I try to do an Audio Suite preview in LP7, I get a "Error Code -7401 was returned by the DAE driver." message. 2) Trying to preview a 16-bit file in the Add Audio window when my session is set to 24-bit global, it crashes (exits) LP7. I realize that, unlike native (Core Audio) users of LP7, who get to work with mixed bit depths in an LP7 session, us TDM/DAE users have to comform to a single session bit depth....but isn't this a pretty unglamorous way of telling you that a 16-bit file isn't compatible with your 24- bit session :-) 3) Very short arrange regions (say, 1/16th note) won't play back looped while in region-loop mode (checking the 'loop' box in the region parameters box). It plays once, but doesn't continue looping. Larger regions (say, half a beat) will loop, though. 4) When I try to import AIF files in the Add Audio window, I sometimes experience strange file grey-out behavior. For instance, in the Audio window, I start the add file routine, and go through the steps of conforming a file (if it needs it - such as the case when it's a stereo AIF from an audio CD...not compatible with our mono- only TDM). That done, I end up with two files - .L and .R. Terrific. Now, when I attempt to "Add File" for these two, the file dialog shows them as greyed out. I know, I know...they're 16-bit. But, even if I am in 16-bit mode in LP7, they're still greyed out. Here's the weird part (to me)... though the .L and .R files are greyed out, the original dragged-from-CD AIFF is not - it's seen by Logic. And, once I select it to 'add' to my audio window, THEN and ONLY THEN are the .L and .R files made selectable. Weird how selecting the original then makes the .L and .R seen. But, further to that, if I then try to import those .L and .R files, Logic crashes right out...again, like I said above, is this because they're 16-bit and my session is 24-bit? If I convert them using Copy/Convert, to 24-bit, they load without a hitch. But, this just doesn't seem very elegant, or 'right'. Can somebody explain to me if this is the normal way, or what this is all about that I'm experiencing? 5) In a related sense, is there any way to do bit depth conversions upon load, rather than doing a Copy/Convert? I'd love to be able to just say to a file "Change from stereo 16-bit to split 24-bit." all in a single move. Nuendo does this. And in batch would be awesome. It's almost a MUST for us DAE users who have to conform our Logic sessions to our hardware's single bit-depth mandate. 6) Lastly, I'm experiencing a lag in my LP7 sample editor while in loop mode. It never properly catches up to where I move my left and right (start/stop) points when I do SHIFT-clicks, or with the mouse for that matter. Makes looping up a break a bugger…I have to start and stop (speaker icon) manually using space bar. As a test, I disabled the DAE and DTDM and re-engaged Core Audio, started fresh, loaded a blank song, imported an audio file, tried the loop points again, and sure enough, exactly the same results. (and this was absolutely using Core Audio - I was even monitoring through the headphone jack on the G5!!! :-) Phew...they all sound eerily related to being a DAE issue...but WHAT? Hopefully many of you have experienced one or more of these issues in the past, and can one-by-one tick them off my list. It's making my life miserable trying to work with Logic and TDM, as you can well imagine. Many many thanks in advance. And, I look forward to becoming a solid member of this great little group! Remixer909 Thanks, Remixer909
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From: Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@...>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 at 11:09:23 AM
Subject: SV: [L-TDM] Any one interested...I am
Message #21405
This is a reply to #21402.
> " where could I > get a copy of 6.4.3" Here: http://www.emagic.de/support/download/index.php?lang=EN Good Luck, Erik > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
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From: Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@...>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 at 11:07:49 AM
Subject: SV: [L-TDM] An assortment of problems...help yourself:-)
Message #21406
This is a reply to #21404.
> 1) When I try to do an Audio Suite preview in LP7, I get a "Error > Code -7401 was returned by the DAE driver." message. AS has a long history of bugs/problems. LP7.1 has it working apart from one BIG issue. No Time/Pitch plug actions. I can get pitch based actions sporadically at best but NEVER Timestrech. > > 2) Trying to preview a 16-bit file in the Add Audio window when my > session is set to 24-bit global, it crashes (exits) LP7. I realize > that, unlike native (Core Audio) users of LP7, who get to work with > mixed bit depths in an LP7 session, us TDM/DAE users have to comform > to a single session bit depth....but isn't this a pretty unglamorous > way of telling you that a 16-bit file isn't compatible with your 24- > bit session :-) Not much glamour there, agreed! I can't remember having this problem back on 7.0, anyone else? I would suggest you step up to OS 10.3.8/LP7.1/PT 6.9 though, clearly my most stable config since my move from OS9-OSX. > > 3) Very short arrange regions (say, 1/16th note) won't play back > looped while in region-loop mode (checking the 'loop' box in the > region parameters box). It plays once, but doesn't continue > looping. Larger regions (say, half a beat) will loop, though. This seems to be fixed in LP7.1. I seldom work with so short regions so I can't guarantee it, but I seem to recall someone posting a positive report on this. > > 4) When I try to import AIF files in the Add Audio window, I > sometimes experience strange file grey-out behavior. For instance, > in the Audio window, I start the add file routine, and go through the > steps of conforming a file (if it needs it - such as the case when > it's a stereo AIF from an audio CD...not compatible with our mono- > only TDM). That done, I end up with two files - .L and .R. Terrific. > Now, when I attempt to "Add File" for these two, the file dialog > shows them as greyed out. I know, I know...they're 16-bit. But, even > if I am in 16-bit mode in LP7, they're still greyed out. Here's the > weird part (to me)... though the .L and .R files are greyed out, the > original dragged-from-CD AIFF is not - it's seen by Logic. And, once > I select it to 'add' to my audio window, THEN and ONLY THEN are > the .L and .R files made selectable. Weird how selecting the > original then makes the .L and .R seen. But, further to that, if I > then try to import those .L and .R files, Logic crashes right > out...again, like I said above, is this because they're 16-bit and my > session is 24-bit? If I convert them using Copy/Convert, to 24-bit, > they load without a hitch. But, this just doesn't seem very elegant, > or 'right'. Can somebody explain to me if this is the normal way, or > what this is all about that I'm experiencing? I remember this. I have not had this since 7.1 > > 5) In a related sense, is there any way to do bit depth conversions > upon load, rather than doing a Copy/Convert? I'd love to be able to > just say to a file "Change from stereo 16-bit to split 24-bit." all > in a single move. Nuendo does this. And in batch would be awesome. > It's almost a MUST for us DAE users who have to conform our Logic > sessions to our hardware's single bit-depth mandate. Dont know for certain, but I don't think it's possible. Anyone else? > > 6) Lastly, I'm experiencing a lag in my LP7 sample editor while in > loop mode. It never properly catches up to where I move my left and > right (start/stop) points when I do SHIFT-clicks, or with the mouse > for that matter. Makes looping up a break a bugger…I have to start > and stop (speaker icon) manually using space bar. As a test, I > disabled the DAE and DTDM and re-engaged Core Audio, started fresh, > loaded a blank song, imported an audio file, tried the loop points > again, and sure enough, exactly the same results. (and this was > absolutely using Core Audio - I was even monitoring through the > headphone jack on the G5!!! :-) I have not noticed this, even prior to 7.1. Hmm... Have you checked your settings in PT's playback engine? How many DSP's etc? Also make sure you have responding settings in LP7's Audio Hardware & Drivers. > > Phew...they all sound eerily related to being a DAE issue...but > WHAT? Hopefully many of you have experienced one or more of these > issues in the past, and can one-by-one tick them off my list. It's > making my life miserable trying to work with Logic and TDM, as you > can well imagine. > > Many many thanks in advance. And, I look forward to becoming a solid > member of this great little group! Wellcome! > > Remixer909 /Erik > > > > Thanks, > Remixer909 > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
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From: "gtruno" <gtruno@...>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 at 4:17:23 PM
Subject: IK Multimedia Tracks TDM
Message #21407
Has any one used IK Multimedia Tracks TDM? I was thinking of buying it when it comes out.
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From: Charles Pollard <chaspol@...>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 at 8:11:58 PM
Subject: Node-less?
Message #21408
Mighty quiet on the ³Logic Node² front. Anyone know of development progress on using it w/ AU plugs? Remember ³Rocket Powered²? -- Charles Pollard chaspol@... G4 1.25dp, 2g ram, OS10.3.9, Logic Pro 7.1, PT HD3 vers. 6.7cs5, Motu 828mkII for native (no ESB), Waves gold, McDsp, NI Komplete 2, Stylus RMX, Trilogy, Atmosphere, etc.
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 at 10:27:28 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] An assortment of problems...help yourself:-)
Message #21409
This is a reply to #21404.
"remixer909" <remixer909@...> wrote: > >Dual G5, OSX 10.3.5, ProTools HD2 Accel TDM 6.9, 96 I/O + 1622(legacy) >Logic Pro 7.0: Core Audio disabled. DAE& DTDM enabled. Digidesign doesn't show that 10.35 is supported with your ProTools version and its associated DAE. 10.38 is. > > >1) When I try to do an Audio Suite preview in LP7, I get a "Error >Code -7401 was returned by the DAE driver." message. Fixed in Logic 7.1. It's available from Apple directly for US$20. > >5) In a related sense, is there any way to do bit depth conversions >upon load, rather than doing a Copy/Convert? I'd love to be able to >just say to a file "Change from stereo 16-bit to split 24-bit." all >in a single move. Nuendo does this. And in batch would be awesome. >It's almost a MUST for us DAE users who have to conform our Logic >sessions to our hardware's single bit-depth mandate. There are more methods to do this in 7.1. > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: "remixer909" <remixer909@...>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 at 10:58:26 PM
Subject: Re: An assortment of problems...help yourself:-)
Message #21410
This is a reply to #21409.
Wow, guys, fantastic. Thanks for the replies, both of you. It sounds like, and I hope, that me upgrading LP to 7.1 and my Mac OS to 10.3.8 is the magic combination for stability with PT/DAE 6.9 right now. Like I said, I'm hesitant to go all the way to Tiger right now, because I know for a fact that many of my TDM and some of my AU plug- ins will not work with it, including my TL Space, and I can't bear to give up TL Space!!! So, I'll order up 7.1 and I've already downloaded (but haven't installed) the new OS 10.3.8. I'll try the OS first, then 7.1, and report back with an update. In the meantime...I still heartily encourage anyone else reading this thread to add input, concurring with, or adding to, the feedback already given. In these kinds of situations, I always feel the more voices who've been through it the better. I'm really wondering about my Sample Editor looping points dilemma...that just sounds weird to me...perhaps it has to do with the need to update, perhaps it doesn't. Anyone else have this problem in the past? Thanks again guys. Very much appreciated. Makes a newcomer to the groups feel very comfortable and welcomed. I hope to return the favor soon. Remixer909 --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> wrote: > "remixer909" <remixer909@y...> wrote: > > > >Dual G5, OSX 10.3.5, ProTools HD2 Accel TDM 6.9, 96 I/O + 1622 (legacy) > >Logic Pro 7.0: Core Audio disabled. DAE& DTDM enabled. > > Digidesign doesn't show that 10.35 is supported with your > ProTools version and its associated DAE. 10.38 is. > > > > > >1) When I try to do an Audio Suite preview in LP7, I get a "Error > >Code -7401 was returned by the DAE driver." message. > > Fixed in Logic 7.1. It's available from Apple directly > for US$20. > > > > >5) In a related sense, is there any way to do bit depth conversions > >upon load, rather than doing a Copy/Convert? I'd love to be able to > >just say to a file "Change from stereo 16-bit to split 24-bit." all > >in a single move. Nuendo does this. And in batch would be awesome. > >It's almost a MUST for us DAE users who have to conform our Logic > >sessions to our hardware's single bit-depth mandate. > > There are more methods to do this in 7.1. > > > > > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> > > > > >
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From: Axel Rohrbach <axel@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 9:48:38 AM
Subject: Waveform Editor Bug?
Message #21411
Hi List, after Erics delete Pref Tip, I've deleted all Prefs by installing the whole system yesterday for another time from 0 on, and on a new hd. Nothing changed, nor better neither worse (I would had thrown all stuff concerning Logic and ProTools and Apple out of the window if so...) But this problem I detected before. That was the kick in the ass to do that new install, but it is still there. I am working very much in the waveform editor for editing audio (such as vocals breath and noises). That is the fastest way I could imagine for that. But with the last productions (and Logic 7.1) there was a bug. If I edit a region in the file, such as silence, the graphics are shown all things correctly. Means by pressing silence, there is nothing but a thin line at 0dB. When I listen to it in that editor, it plays the old file (there shouldn't be one, cause I don't make backups for that). If I repeat playing it (without looping the region) it plays anytime the edited region correctly. Means I hear nothing if done silence. But sometimes at the second time, sometimes later up to the 8. time. If I work with silence, no problem, I can wait till I hear the silence to check, if I didn't silence to much. But with pitching, change gain, change tempo and so on, I would very like to know, if I here the old or the edited region. Someone any ideas? I have so many workarounds for all kind of f***ing bugs, but that goes to far. I don't have any trust in computers/ sequencers any more and every time I do something, I begin to sweat, cause I don't know, what results are coming up or if Logic just disappears and is gone. Much much regards to that great list, Xcell P.S.: If I wouldn't know, how strong this system could be, and if I wouldn't have invest so much energy, time and money to that system, I would have jumped out that stuff one year ago, bought the new SSL AWS 900 with a RME Interface or something with Nuendo and a PC (just to spend no more money in Apple) and all would be good........
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From: Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 10:56:05 AM
Subject: SV: [L-TDM] Waveform Editor Bug?
Message #21412
This is a reply to #21411.
Axel, I can't reproduce this issue. I've hardtested this for an hour or so, just now. Silence, pitch, gain, normalize, reverse, etc. they all work in my setup. When you are talking about pitch, you are not reffering to an AudioSuite plug-in right? Cause that just doesn't work. But the "Time & Pitch Machine" is solid. This is how I usually work, so I don't mind about the AS issues so much. I can't stand autotune, so I usually just tune words here and there by ear. And this is stable in my rig. What is your setup now again? Mine is: G5 2x2, 2.5 G RAM, 192 I/O, PTHD3accel, PT 6.9cs1, LP7.1 /Erik > Hi List, > > after Erics delete Pref Tip, I've deleted all Prefs by installing the > whole system yesterday for another time from 0 on, and on a new hd. > Nothing changed, nor better neither worse (I would had thrown all > stuff concerning Logic and ProTools and Apple out of the window if > so...) > > But this problem I detected before. That was the kick in the ass to > do that new install, but it is still there. > I am working very much in the waveform editor for editing audio (such > as vocals breath and noises). That is the fastest way I could imagine > for that. But with the last productions (and Logic 7.1) there was a > bug. If I edit a region in the file, such as silence, the graphics > are shown all things correctly. Means by pressing silence, there is > nothing but a thin line at 0dB. When I listen to it in that editor, > it plays the old file (there shouldn't be one, cause I don't make > backups for that). If I repeat playing it (without looping the > region) it plays anytime the edited region correctly. Means I hear > nothing if done silence. But sometimes at the second time, sometimes > later up to the 8. time. > > If I work with silence, no problem, I can wait till I hear the > silence to check, if I didn't silence to much. But with pitching, > change gain, change tempo and so on, I would very like to know, if I > here the old or the edited region. > > Someone any ideas? I have so many workarounds for all kind of f***ing > bugs, but that goes to far. I don't have any trust in computers/ > sequencers any more and every time I do something, I begin to sweat, > cause I don't know, what results are coming up or if Logic just > disappears and is gone. > > > Much much regards to that great list, > > Xcell > > > P.S.: If I wouldn't know, how strong this system could be, and if I > wouldn't have invest so much energy, time and money to that system, I > would have jumped out that stuff one year ago, bought the new SSL AWS > 900 with a RME Interface or something with Nuendo and a PC (just to > spend no more money in Apple) and all would be good........ > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
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From: Axel Rohrbach <axel@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 1:30:47 PM
Subject: Re: SV: [L-TDM] Waveform Editor Bug?
Message #21413
This is a reply to #21412.
Hi Erik, I hate the sound of Autotune, too. So Melodyne is the one for me or pitching by hearing :-) Should anyway be the best way. Yes, I don't do much with audiosuite in Logic. I do all stuff with the simple pitch command in the "time and pitch factory". Sounds good, is very easy to use, works stable till now... G5 2x2, 6,5GB Ram, 192I/O (with 2 x 888/24 I/O), PTHD3accel, PT 6.9cs1, LP7.1, OSX10.4.1 I just saw, I could also copy yours. Do you run with Panther or Tiger? Axel Am 30.06.2005 um 17:56 schrieb Erik Sojdelius: > Axel, > > I can't reproduce this issue. I've hardtested this for an hour or > so, just > now. > > Silence, pitch, gain, normalize, reverse, etc. they all work in my > setup. > When you are talking about pitch, you are not reffering to an > AudioSuite > plug-in right? Cause that just doesn't work. But the "Time & Pitch > Machine" > is solid. This is how I usually work, so I don't mind about the AS > issues so > much. I can't stand autotune, so I usually just tune words here and > there by > ear. And this is stable in my rig. > > What is your setup now again? > > Mine is: G5 2x2, 2.5 G RAM, 192 I/O, PTHD3accel, PT 6.9cs1, LP7.1 > > /Erik > > > > >> Hi List, >> >> after Erics delete Pref Tip, I've deleted all Prefs by installing the >> whole system yesterday for another time from 0 on, and on a new hd. >> Nothing changed, nor better neither worse (I would had thrown all >> stuff concerning Logic and ProTools and Apple out of the window if >> so...) >> >> But this problem I detected before. That was the kick in the ass to >> do that new install, but it is still there. >> I am working very much in the waveform editor for editing audio (such >> as vocals breath and noises). That is the fastest way I could imagine >> for that. But with the last productions (and Logic 7.1) there was a >> bug. If I edit a region in the file, such as silence, the graphics >> are shown all things correctly. Means by pressing silence, there is >> nothing but a thin line at 0dB. When I listen to it in that editor, >> it plays the old file (there shouldn't be one, cause I don't make >> backups for that). If I repeat playing it (without looping the >> region) it plays anytime the edited region correctly. Means I hear >> nothing if done silence. But sometimes at the second time, sometimes >> later up to the 8. time. >> >> If I work with silence, no problem, I can wait till I hear the >> silence to check, if I didn't silence to much. But with pitching, >> change gain, change tempo and so on, I would very like to know, if I >> here the old or the edited region. >> >> Someone any ideas? I have so many workarounds for all kind of f***ing >> bugs, but that goes to far. I don't have any trust in computers/ >> sequencers any more and every time I do something, I begin to sweat, >> cause I don't know, what results are coming up or if Logic just >> disappears and is gone. >> >> >> Much much regards to that great list, >> >> Xcell >> >> >> P.S.: If I wouldn't know, how strong this system could be, and if I >> wouldn't have invest so much energy, time and money to that system, I >> would have jumped out that stuff one year ago, bought the new SSL AWS >> 900 with a RME Interface or something with Nuendo and a PC (just to >> spend no more money in Apple) and all would be good........ >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 1:46:15 PM
Subject: Melodyne Bridge Working?
Message #21414
This is a reply to #21413.
Are folks having luck using the melodyne Bridge despite it's not passing AU validation. I was hoping to use it this weekend. I haven't had a chance to try it yet. bd On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Axel Rohrbach wrote: > Hi Erik, > > I hate the sound of Autotune, too. So Melodyne is the one for me or > pitching by hearing :-) Should anyway be the best way. Yes, I don't > do much with audiosuite in Logic. I do all stuff with the simple > pitch command in the "time and pitch factory". Sounds good, is very > easy to use, works stable till now... > > G5 2x2, 6,5GB Ram, 192I/O (with 2 x 888/24 I/O), PTHD3accel, PT > 6.9cs1, LP7.1, OSX10.4.1 > > I just saw, I could also copy yours. Do you run with Panther or Tiger? > > Axel > > > > Am 30.06.2005 um 17:56 schrieb Erik Sojdelius: > > >> Axel, >> >> I can't reproduce this issue. I've hardtested this for an hour or >> so, just >> now. >> >> Silence, pitch, gain, normalize, reverse, etc. they all work in my >> setup. >> When you are talking about pitch, you are not reffering to an >> AudioSuite >> plug-in right? Cause that just doesn't work. But the "Time & Pitch >> Machine" >> is solid. This is how I usually work, so I don't mind about the AS >> issues so >> much. I can't stand autotune, so I usually just tune words here and >> there by >> ear. And this is stable in my rig. >> >> What is your setup now again? >> >> Mine is: G5 2x2, 2.5 G RAM, 192 I/O, PTHD3accel, PT 6.9cs1, LP7.1 >> >> /Erik >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> after Erics delete Pref Tip, I've deleted all Prefs by installing >>> the >>> whole system yesterday for another time from 0 on, and on a new hd. >>> Nothing changed, nor better neither worse (I would had thrown all >>> stuff concerning Logic and ProTools and Apple out of the window if >>> so...) >>> >>> But this problem I detected before. That was the kick in the ass to >>> do that new install, but it is still there. >>> I am working very much in the waveform editor for editing audio >>> (such >>> as vocals breath and noises). That is the fastest way I could >>> imagine >>> for that. But with the last productions (and Logic 7.1) there was a >>> bug. If I edit a region in the file, such as silence, the graphics >>> are shown all things correctly. Means by pressing silence, there is >>> nothing but a thin line at 0dB. When I listen to it in that editor, >>> it plays the old file (there shouldn't be one, cause I don't make >>> backups for that). If I repeat playing it (without looping the >>> region) it plays anytime the edited region correctly. Means I hear >>> nothing if done silence. But sometimes at the second time, sometimes >>> later up to the 8. time. >>> >>> If I work with silence, no problem, I can wait till I hear the >>> silence to check, if I didn't silence to much. But with pitching, >>> change gain, change tempo and so on, I would very like to know, if I >>> here the old or the edited region. >>> >>> Someone any ideas? I have so many workarounds for all kind of >>> f***ing >>> bugs, but that goes to far. I don't have any trust in computers/ >>> sequencers any more and every time I do something, I begin to sweat, >>> cause I don't know, what results are coming up or if Logic just >>> disappears and is gone. >>> >>> >>> Much much regards to that great list, >>> >>> Xcell >>> >>> >>> P.S.: If I wouldn't know, how strong this system could be, and if I >>> wouldn't have invest so much energy, time and money to that >>> system, I >>> would have jumped out that stuff one year ago, bought the new SSL >>> AWS >>> 900 with a RME Interface or something with Nuendo and a PC (just to >>> spend no more money in Apple) and all would be good........ >>> >>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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From: "remixer909" <remixer909@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 2:24:12 PM
Subject: Re: An assortment of problems...help yourself:-)
Message #21415
This is a reply to #21409.
Hey guys, Just wondering, in my process of upgrading (as per your suggestions), should I upgrade my PT 6.9 to 6.9.0sc1 or 6.9.1? I won't go 6.9.2 because I'm not going to upgrade the OS to Tiger, but rather just up to 10.3.8. Thanks, Remixer909 --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> wrote: > "remixer909" <remixer909@y...> wrote: > > > >Dual G5, OSX 10.3.5, ProTools HD2 Accel TDM 6.9, 96 I/O + 1622 (legacy) > >Logic Pro 7.0: Core Audio disabled. DAE& DTDM enabled. > > Digidesign doesn't show that 10.35 is supported with your > ProTools version and its associated DAE. 10.38 is. > > > > > >1) When I try to do an Audio Suite preview in LP7, I get a "Error > >Code -7401 was returned by the DAE driver." message. > > Fixed in Logic 7.1. It's available from Apple directly > for US$20. > > > > >5) In a related sense, is there any way to do bit depth conversions > >upon load, rather than doing a Copy/Convert? I'd love to be able to > >just say to a file "Change from stereo 16-bit to split 24-bit." all > >in a single move. Nuendo does this. And in batch would be awesome. > >It's almost a MUST for us DAE users who have to conform our Logic > >sessions to our hardware's single bit-depth mandate. > > There are more methods to do this in 7.1. > > > > > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> > > > > >
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From: Axel Rohrbach <axel@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 2:21:59 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Melodyne Bridge Working?
Message #21416
This is a reply to #21414.
Hi, just because you are answering to my mail: no! It didn't work at the beginning, so I have a workaround and use it still (perhaps it isn't necassary anymore). For me it's very fast to edit in Logic, than make another track in the arrange from the same track in the enviroment. Copy the regions and merge them. Then I open Melodyne, click, "don't connect to host" and use the internal soundcard (digital out). I can edit than in Melodyne, export it and load it into Logic. Sounds complicated but is very fast... I have the Presenous CentralStation with Remotecontrole and can switch fast between 4 different Inputs. So no problem to switch between Logic and Melodyne, running on one Computer through different Hardware (shouldn't be a problem with a mixer or SPL SMC or whatever you use, too). I would give that way a try, as I said, seems slow - - - is fast :-) Success, Axel Am 30.06.2005 um 20:46 schrieb Bob DeMaa: > Are folks having luck using the melodyne Bridge despite it's not > passing AU validation. I was hoping to use it this weekend. I haven't > had a chance to try it yet. > > bd > > On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Axel Rohrbach wrote: > > >> Hi Erik, >> >> I hate the sound of Autotune, too. So Melodyne is the one for me or >> pitching by hearing :-) Should anyway be the best way. Yes, I don't >> do much with audiosuite in Logic. I do all stuff with the simple >> pitch command in the "time and pitch factory". Sounds good, is very >> easy to use, works stable till now... >> >> G5 2x2, 6,5GB Ram, 192I/O (with 2 x 888/24 I/O), PTHD3accel, PT >> 6.9cs1, LP7.1, OSX10.4.1 >> >> I just saw, I could also copy yours. Do you run with Panther or >> Tiger? >> >> Axel >> >> >> >> Am 30.06.2005 um 17:56 schrieb Erik Sojdelius: >> >> >> >>> Axel, >>> >>> I can't reproduce this issue. I've hardtested this for an hour or >>> so, just >>> now. >>> >>> Silence, pitch, gain, normalize, reverse, etc. they all work in my >>> setup. >>> When you are talking about pitch, you are not reffering to an >>> AudioSuite >>> plug-in right? Cause that just doesn't work. But the "Time & Pitch >>> Machine" >>> is solid. This is how I usually work, so I don't mind about the AS >>> issues so >>> much. I can't stand autotune, so I usually just tune words here and >>> there by >>> ear. And this is stable in my rig. >>> >>> What is your setup now again? >>> >>> Mine is: G5 2x2, 2.5 G RAM, 192 I/O, PTHD3accel, PT 6.9cs1, LP7.1 >>> >>> /Erik >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi List, >>>> >>>> after Erics delete Pref Tip, I've deleted all Prefs by installing >>>> the >>>> whole system yesterday for another time from 0 on, and on a new hd. >>>> Nothing changed, nor better neither worse (I would had thrown all >>>> stuff concerning Logic and ProTools and Apple out of the window if >>>> so...) >>>> >>>> But this problem I detected before. That was the kick in the ass to >>>> do that new install, but it is still there. >>>> I am working very much in the waveform editor for editing audio >>>> (such >>>> as vocals breath and noises). That is the fastest way I could >>>> imagine >>>> for that. But with the last productions (and Logic 7.1) there was a >>>> bug. If I edit a region in the file, such as silence, the graphics >>>> are shown all things correctly. Means by pressing silence, there is >>>> nothing but a thin line at 0dB. When I listen to it in that editor, >>>> it plays the old file (there shouldn't be one, cause I don't make >>>> backups for that). If I repeat playing it (without looping the >>>> region) it plays anytime the edited region correctly. Means I hear >>>> nothing if done silence. But sometimes at the second time, >>>> sometimes >>>> later up to the 8. time. >>>> >>>> If I work with silence, no problem, I can wait till I hear the >>>> silence to check, if I didn't silence to much. But with pitching, >>>> change gain, change tempo and so on, I would very like to know, >>>> if I >>>> here the old or the edited region. >>>> >>>> Someone any ideas? I have so many workarounds for all kind of >>>> f***ing >>>> bugs, but that goes to far. I don't have any trust in computers/ >>>> sequencers any more and every time I do something, I begin to >>>> sweat, >>>> cause I don't know, what results are coming up or if Logic just >>>> disappears and is gone. >>>> >>>> >>>> Much much regards to that great list, >>>> >>>> Xcell >>>> >>>> >>>> P.S.: If I wouldn't know, how strong this system could be, and if I >>>> wouldn't have invest so much energy, time and money to that >>>> system, I >>>> would have jumped out that stuff one year ago, bought the new SSL >>>> AWS >>>> 900 with a RME Interface or something with Nuendo and a PC (just to >>>> spend no more money in Apple) and all would be good........ >>>> >>>> >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 2:41:57 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Melodyne Bridge Working?
Message #21417
This is a reply to #21416.
Thanks, that's helpful Axel. Cheers! bob On Jun 30, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Axel Rohrbach wrote: > Hi, > > just because you are answering to my mail: > > no! It didn't work at the beginning, so I have a workaround and use > it still (perhaps it isn't necassary anymore). > > For me it's very fast to edit in Logic, than make another track in > the arrange from the same track in the enviroment. Copy the regions > and merge them. Then I open Melodyne, click, "don't connect to host" > and use the internal soundcard (digital out). I can edit than in > Melodyne, export it and load it into Logic. Sounds complicated but is > very fast... I have the Presenous CentralStation with Remotecontrole > and can switch fast between 4 different Inputs. So no problem to > switch between Logic and Melodyne, running on one Computer through > different Hardware (shouldn't be a problem with a mixer or SPL SMC or > whatever you use, too). > > I would give that way a try, as I said, seems slow - - - is fast :-) > > Success, > > Axel > > > Am 30.06.2005 um 20:46 schrieb Bob DeMaa: > > >> Are folks having luck using the melodyne Bridge despite it's not >> passing AU validation. I was hoping to use it this weekend. I haven't >> had a chance to try it yet. >> >> bd >> >> On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Axel Rohrbach wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Erik, >>> >>> I hate the sound of Autotune, too. So Melodyne is the one for me or >>> pitching by hearing :-) Should anyway be the best way. Yes, I don't >>> do much with audiosuite in Logic. I do all stuff with the simple >>> pitch command in the "time and pitch factory". Sounds good, is very >>> easy to use, works stable till now... >>> >>> G5 2x2, 6,5GB Ram, 192I/O (with 2 x 888/24 I/O), PTHD3accel, PT >>> 6.9cs1, LP7.1, OSX10.4.1 >>> >>> I just saw, I could also copy yours. Do you run with Panther or >>> Tiger? >>> >>> Axel >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 30.06.2005 um 17:56 schrieb Erik Sojdelius: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Axel, >>>> >>>> I can't reproduce this issue. I've hardtested this for an hour or >>>> so, just >>>> now. >>>> >>>> Silence, pitch, gain, normalize, reverse, etc. they all work in my >>>> setup. >>>> When you are talking about pitch, you are not reffering to an >>>> AudioSuite >>>> plug-in right? Cause that just doesn't work. But the "Time & Pitch >>>> Machine" >>>> is solid. This is how I usually work, so I don't mind about the AS >>>> issues so >>>> much. I can't stand autotune, so I usually just tune words here and >>>> there by >>>> ear. And this is stable in my rig. >>>> >>>> What is your setup now again? >>>> >>>> Mine is: G5 2x2, 2.5 G RAM, 192 I/O, PTHD3accel, PT 6.9cs1, LP7.1 >>>> >>>> /Erik >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi List, >>>>> >>>>> after Erics delete Pref Tip, I've deleted all Prefs by installing >>>>> the >>>>> whole system yesterday for another time from 0 on, and on a new >>>>> hd. >>>>> Nothing changed, nor better neither worse (I would had thrown all >>>>> stuff concerning Logic and ProTools and Apple out of the window if >>>>> so...) >>>>> >>>>> But this problem I detected before. That was the kick in the >>>>> ass to >>>>> do that new install, but it is still there. >>>>> I am working very much in the waveform editor for editing audio >>>>> (such >>>>> as vocals breath and noises). That is the fastest way I could >>>>> imagine >>>>> for that. But with the last productions (and Logic 7.1) there >>>>> was a >>>>> bug. If I edit a region in the file, such as silence, the graphics >>>>> are shown all things correctly. Means by pressing silence, >>>>> there is >>>>> nothing but a thin line at 0dB. When I listen to it in that >>>>> editor, >>>>> it plays the old file (there shouldn't be one, cause I don't make >>>>> backups for that). If I repeat playing it (without looping the >>>>> region) it plays anytime the edited region correctly. Means I hear >>>>> nothing if done silence. But sometimes at the second time, >>>>> sometimes >>>>> later up to the 8. time. >>>>> >>>>> If I work with silence, no problem, I can wait till I hear the >>>>> silence to check, if I didn't silence to much. But with pitching, >>>>> change gain, change tempo and so on, I would very like to know, >>>>> if I >>>>> here the old or the edited region. >>>>> >>>>> Someone any ideas? I have so many workarounds for all kind of >>>>> f***ing >>>>> bugs, but that goes to far. I don't have any trust in computers/ >>>>> sequencers any more and every time I do something, I begin to >>>>> sweat, >>>>> cause I don't know, what results are coming up or if Logic just >>>>> disappears and is gone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Much much regards to that great list, >>>>> >>>>> Xcell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> P.S.: If I wouldn't know, how strong this system could be, and >>>>> if I >>>>> wouldn't have invest so much energy, time and money to that >>>>> system, I >>>>> would have jumped out that stuff one year ago, bought the new SSL >>>>> AWS >>>>> 900 with a RME Interface or something with Nuendo and a PC >>>>> (just to >>>>> spend no more money in Apple) and all would be good........ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>>>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 2:48:35 PM
Subject: Re: SV: Logic 7.1 with TDM ADC (Automatic Delay compensation)
Message #21418
This is a reply to #21387.
Erik Sojdelius wrote: > So to me, a TDM set-up is the sollution to latency. The question could be > turned; Can any one seriously compose, track, and mix in a non TDM set-up? Very easily. I switched from a Logic TDM to native, and have had a much better time - creatively and technically. Latency is not an issue any more and there are so many great native plugins that compete with TDM. And thankfully I no longer have the horrible ESB hassle when I want to mix in Logic with the Logic plugins and instruments. The best bit though is the music that's coming out and the happy clients. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: "cyanbaby101" <cyanbaby101@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 4:31:25 PM
Subject: Repost: Exporting regions and Zooming in Logic
Message #21419
I am reposting this message since I was unsuccessful getting any responses before. I am eager to find these answers. 1) Anyone know how to export/bounce multiple regions on 1 track in the arrange window into individual wav files? The manual tells how to do this with multiple tracks, but not multiple regions on ONE track. 2) I have a mouse with a vertical slider on the top for my index finger. Can I asign this to the horizontal zoom in the arrange window? You can do this in Sonic Foundry Acid and makes zooming sooo much faster. Thanks in advance.
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From: Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 5:24:29 PM
Subject: SV: SV: [L-TDM] Waveform Editor Bug?
Message #21420
This is a reply to #21413.
Hey Axel! Sorry I forgot to mention, I'm on 10.3.8. Are you sure you're running 10.4.1 with PT 6.9cs1? That is not supposed to be compatible. You need 6.9.2. If this is so, it might very well be the cause of your problem... All The Best, Erik > Hi Erik, > > I hate the sound of Autotune, too. So Melodyne is the one for me or > pitching by hearing :-) Should anyway be the best way. Yes, I don't > do much with audiosuite in Logic. I do all stuff with the simple > pitch command in the "time and pitch factory". Sounds good, is very > easy to use, works stable till now... > > G5 2x2, 6,5GB Ram, 192I/O (with 2 x 888/24 I/O), PTHD3accel, PT > 6.9cs1, LP7.1, OSX10.4.1 > > I just saw, I could also copy yours. Do you run with Panther or Tiger? > > Axel > > > > Am 30.06.2005 um 17:56 schrieb Erik Sojdelius: > >> Axel, >> >> I can't reproduce this issue. I've hardtested this for an hour or >> so, just >> now. >> >> Silence, pitch, gain, normalize, reverse, etc. they all work in my >> setup. >> When you are talking about pitch, you are not reffering to an >> AudioSuite >> plug-in right? Cause that just doesn't work. But the "Time & Pitch >> Machine" >> is solid. This is how I usually work, so I don't mind about the AS >> issues so >> much. I can't stand autotune, so I usually just tune words here and >> there by >> ear. And this is stable in my rig. >> >> What is your setup now again? >> >> Mine is: G5 2x2, 2.5 G RAM, 192 I/O, PTHD3accel, PT 6.9cs1, LP7.1 >> >> /Erik >> >> >> >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> after Erics delete Pref Tip, I've deleted all Prefs by installing the >>> whole system yesterday for another time from 0 on, and on a new hd. >>> Nothing changed, nor better neither worse (I would had thrown all >>> stuff concerning Logic and ProTools and Apple out of the window if >>> so...) >>> >>> But this problem I detected before. That was the kick in the ass to >>> do that new install, but it is still there. >>> I am working very much in the waveform editor for editing audio (such >>> as vocals breath and noises). That is the fastest way I could imagine >>> for that. But with the last productions (and Logic 7.1) there was a >>> bug. If I edit a region in the file, such as silence, the graphics >>> are shown all things correctly. Means by pressing silence, there is >>> nothing but a thin line at 0dB. When I listen to it in that editor, >>> it plays the old file (there shouldn't be one, cause I don't make >>> backups for that). If I repeat playing it (without looping the >>> region) it plays anytime the edited region correctly. Means I hear >>> nothing if done silence. But sometimes at the second time, sometimes >>> later up to the 8. time. >>> >>> If I work with silence, no problem, I can wait till I hear the >>> silence to check, if I didn't silence to much. But with pitching, >>> change gain, change tempo and so on, I would very like to know, if I >>> here the old or the edited region. >>> >>> Someone any ideas? I have so many workarounds for all kind of f***ing >>> bugs, but that goes to far. I don't have any trust in computers/ >>> sequencers any more and every time I do something, I begin to sweat, >>> cause I don't know, what results are coming up or if Logic just >>> disappears and is gone. >>> >>> >>> Much much regards to that great list, >>> >>> Xcell >>> >>> >>> P.S.: If I wouldn't know, how strong this system could be, and if I >>> wouldn't have invest so much energy, time and money to that system, I >>> would have jumped out that stuff one year ago, bought the new SSL AWS >>> 900 with a RME Interface or something with Nuendo and a PC (just to >>> spend no more money in Apple) and all would be good........ >>> >>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
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From: Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 5:41:39 PM
Subject: SV: [L-TDM] Re: SV: Logic 7.1 with TDM ADC (Automatic Delay
Message #21421
This is a reply to #21418.
Hey Pete! That's interesting. Obviously that's something I want to look into. What interface solution are you using? I totally agree about great native plugins, i run a native mobile setup myself. But I gotta say that latency are bugging me on that one. How are you dealing with this? When I get down to sample buffers that I can stand, the audio starts popping and cracking. Is this due to my limited CPU power in the G4PB? Will a G5 handle it flawlessly? As you might have read in my original post, I like to record, program and sing through compressors and eq's. Direct monitoring won't do it for me. In that case I would have to by a mixing console + hardware compressors etc. A bit too pricy for me, and not versatile enough for what I do. Don't get me wrong, I love the real-deal. I just can't afford it. TIA, Erik > Erik Sojdelius wrote: > >> So to me, a TDM set-up is the sollution to latency. The question could be >> turned; Can any one seriously compose, track, and mix in a non TDM set-up? > > Very easily. > > I switched from a Logic TDM to native, and have had a much better time - > creatively and technically. > > Latency is not an issue any more and there are so many great native > plugins that compete with TDM. And thankfully I no longer have the > horrible ESB hassle when I want to mix in Logic with the Logic plugins > and instruments. > > The best bit though is the music that's coming out and the happy clients. >
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From: Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 5:43:04 PM
Subject: SV: [L-TDM] Re: An assortment of problems...help yourself:-)
Message #21422
This is a reply to #21415.
There's a 6.9.1? Gotta go check it out... /Erik > Hey guys, > > Just wondering, in my process of upgrading (as per your suggestions), > should I upgrade my PT 6.9 to 6.9.0sc1 or 6.9.1? I won't go 6.9.2 > because I'm not going to upgrade the OS to Tiger, but rather just up > to 10.3.8. > > Thanks, > Remixer909 > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> > wrote: >> "remixer909" <remixer909@y...> wrote: >>> >>> Dual G5, OSX 10.3.5, ProTools HD2 Accel TDM 6.9, 96 I/O + 1622 > (legacy) >>> Logic Pro 7.0: Core Audio disabled. DAE& DTDM enabled. >> >> Digidesign doesn't show that 10.35 is supported with your >> ProTools version and its associated DAE. 10.38 is. >>> >>> >>> 1) When I try to do an Audio Suite preview in LP7, I get a "Error >>> Code -7401 was returned by the DAE driver." message. >> >> Fixed in Logic 7.1. It's available from Apple directly >> for US$20. >> >>> >>> 5) In a related sense, is there any way to do bit depth > conversions >>> upon load, rather than doing a Copy/Convert? I'd love to be able > to >>> just say to a file "Change from stereo 16-bit to split 24-bit." > all >>> in a single move. Nuendo does this. And in batch would be awesome. >>> It's almost a MUST for us DAE users who have to conform our Logic >>> sessions to our hardware's single bit-depth mandate. >> >> There are more methods to do this in 7.1. >>> >>> >> >> >> f-erenc szabo, smarty pants >> Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T >> "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" >> <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
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From: martin <mbox@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 8:47:24 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: SV: Logic 7.1 with TDM ADC (Automatic Delay
Message #21423
This is a reply to #21418.
> From: Pete Thomas <logic@...> > Very easily. > > I switched from a Logic TDM to native, and have had a much better time - > creatively and technically. Oh no.. don't mention the N-word, this is the Logic TDM list after all. Do not obey to Apple's evil band in a box plan. Resist, and demand TDM attention ! Getting the best of both worlds, that's what it's all about here. I have never had so much trouble with my combo that I would even remotely consider dropping HD. But of course it all depends on each ones needs and routines. m
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From: "remixer909" <remixer909@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 at 9:37:34 PM
Subject: SV: [L-TDM] Re: An assortment of problems...help yourself:-)
Message #21424
This is a reply to #21422.
Yeah...I was surprised as well:-) They must have heard us, as they released the official 6.9.1 the same day as my original posting, or pretty close, on June 27...this past Monday? Pretty timely. So, should I do it? Do you see reason for me to go 6.9.1? From what they say in the update info, it doesn't sound like it has anything that could HURT if I decided to go for it, right? Thanks, Remixer909 --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: > There's a 6.9.1? > > Gotta go check it out... > > /Erik > > > Hey guys, > > > > Just wondering, in my process of upgrading (as per your suggestions), > > should I upgrade my PT 6.9 to 6.9.0sc1 or 6.9.1? I won't go 6.9.2 > > because I'm not going to upgrade the OS to Tiger, but rather just up > > to 10.3.8. > > > > Thanks, > > Remixer909 > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> > > wrote: > >> "remixer909" <remixer909@y...> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dual G5, OSX 10.3.5, ProTools HD2 Accel TDM 6.9, 96 I/O + 1622 > > (legacy) > >>> Logic Pro 7.0: Core Audio disabled. DAE& DTDM enabled. > >> > >> Digidesign doesn't show that 10.35 is supported with your > >> ProTools version and its associated DAE. 10.38 is. > >>> > >>> > >>> 1) When I try to do an Audio Suite preview in LP7, I get a "Error > >>> Code -7401 was returned by the DAE driver." message. > >> > >> Fixed in Logic 7.1. It's available from Apple directly > >> for US$20. > >> > >>> > >>> 5) In a related sense, is there any way to do bit depth > > conversions > >>> upon load, rather than doing a Copy/Convert? I'd love to be able > > to > >>> just say to a file "Change from stereo 16-bit to split 24-bit." > > all > >>> in a single move. Nuendo does this. And in batch would be awesome. > >>> It's almost a MUST for us DAE users who have to conform our Logic > >>> sessions to our hardware's single bit-depth mandate. > >> > >> There are more methods to do this in 7.1. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > >> Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > >> "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > >> <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > >
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From: Axel Rohrbach <axel@...>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 at 2:46:32 AM
Subject: Re: SV: SV: [L-TDM] Waveform Editor Bug?
Message #21425
This is a reply to #21420.
Sorry, no I am using 6.9.2cs1. I was to fast... Perhaps I should do all again, but with Panther... I hate it. But I have to stay as I am for the next time, cause we don't have the time do spend another whole day in installing things. Thanks for help! Axel Am 01.07.2005 um 00:24 schrieb Erik Sojdelius: > Hey Axel! Sorry I forgot to mention, I'm on 10.3.8. > > Are you sure you're running 10.4.1 with PT 6.9cs1? That is not > supposed to > be compatible. You need 6.9.2. If this is so, it might very well be > the > cause of your problem... > > All The Best, > > Erik > > >> Hi Erik, >> >> I hate the sound of Autotune, too. So Melodyne is the one for me or >> pitching by hearing :-) Should anyway be the best way. Yes, I don't >> do much with audiosuite in Logic. I do all stuff with the simple >> pitch command in the "time and pitch factory". Sounds good, is very >> easy to use, works stable till now... >> >> G5 2x2, 6,5GB Ram, 192I/O (with 2 x 888/24 I/O), PTHD3accel, PT >> 6.9cs1, LP7.1, OSX10.4.1 >> >> I just saw, I could also copy yours. Do you run with Panther or >> Tiger? >> >> Axel >> >> >> >> Am 30.06.2005 um 17:56 schrieb Erik Sojdelius: >> >> >>> Axel, >>> >>> I can't reproduce this issue. I've hardtested this for an hour or >>> so, just >>> now. >>> >>> Silence, pitch, gain, normalize, reverse, etc. they all work in my >>> setup. >>> When you are talking about pitch, you are not reffering to an >>> AudioSuite >>> plug-in right? Cause that just doesn't work. But the "Time & Pitch >>> Machine" >>> is solid. This is how I usually work, so I don't mind about the AS >>> issues so >>> much. I can't stand autotune, so I usually just tune words here and >>> there by >>> ear. And this is stable in my rig. >>> >>> What is your setup now again? >>> >>> Mine is: G5 2x2, 2.5 G RAM, 192 I/O, PTHD3accel, PT 6.9cs1, LP7.1 >>> >>> /Erik >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi List, >>>> >>>> after Erics delete Pref Tip, I've deleted all Prefs by >>>> installing the >>>> whole system yesterday for another time from 0 on, and on a new hd. >>>> Nothing changed, nor better neither worse (I would had thrown all >>>> stuff concerning Logic and ProTools and Apple out of the window if >>>> so...) >>>> >>>> But this problem I detected before. That was the kick in the ass to >>>> do that new install, but it is still there. >>>> I am working very much in the waveform editor for editing audio >>>> (such >>>> as vocals breath and noises). That is the fastest way I could >>>> imagine >>>> for that. But with the last productions (and Logic 7.1) there was a >>>> bug. If I edit a region in the file, such as silence, the graphics >>>> are shown all things correctly. Means by pressing silence, there is >>>> nothing but a thin line at 0dB. When I listen to it in that editor, >>>> it plays the old file (there shouldn't be one, cause I don't make >>>> backups for that). If I repeat playing it (without looping the >>>> region) it plays anytime the edited region correctly. Means I hear >>>> nothing if done silence. But sometimes at the second time, >>>> sometimes >>>> later up to the 8. time. >>>> >>>> If I work with silence, no problem, I can wait till I hear the >>>> silence to check, if I didn't silence to much. But with pitching, >>>> change gain, change tempo and so on, I would very like to know, >>>> if I >>>> here the old or the edited region. >>>> >>>> Someone any ideas? I have so many workarounds for all kind of >>>> f***ing >>>> bugs, but that goes to far. I don't have any trust in computers/ >>>> sequencers any more and every time I do something, I begin to >>>> sweat, >>>> cause I don't know, what results are coming up or if Logic just >>>> disappears and is gone. >>>> >>>> >>>> Much much regards to that great list, >>>> >>>> Xcell >>>> >>>> >>>> P.S.: If I wouldn't know, how strong this system could be, and if I >>>> wouldn't have invest so much energy, time and money to that >>>> system, I >>>> would have jumped out that stuff one year ago, bought the new >>>> SSL AWS >>>> 900 with a RME Interface or something with Nuendo and a PC (just to >>>> spend no more money in Apple) and all would be good........ >>>> >>>> >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- >>>> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! 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