Jon - you replied to the digest - which places a misleading subject line on your posting - makes it impossible to thread. I then replied to your posting, which puts us in a new thread together. The thread was: (wait for it)..... Re: Logic 7.1/PT 6.9/G5 major problems ( for Mike) msg: 21056 In future you need to reply and replace the digest subjectline with the embedded message subjectline. (Either that, or elect to receive separate emails. The bandwidth isn't that high here - its not a bad option.) If you do it again, your wife will be confiscated peter

Those of you running Tiger/DAE 6.9.2/L7.1, are you having problems with a greyed out "TDM DSP Usage" in the Audio Menue? TIA, Erik

Yes. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Am 31.05.2005 um 00:20 schrieb godmouth1965: > Those of you running Tiger/DAE 6.9.2/L7.1, are you having problems > with a greyed out "TDM > DSP Usage" in the Audio Menue? > > TIA, > > Erik

Thnx for a swift response! /Erik > Yes. > > Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > Am 31.05.2005 um 00:20 schrieb godmouth1965: > >> Those of you running Tiger/DAE 6.9.2/L7.1, are you having problems >> with a greyed out "TDM >> DSP Usage" in the Audio Menue? >> >> TIA, >> >> Erik > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Lee Blaske wrote: >> Hi Peter >> >> I bounced a 44.1kHz/24-bit mix last night in Logic 7.1/PT 6.9/OS X >> 10.3.8 and it worked correctly. >> >> I am waiting to move to 10.4.1 and 6.9.2 until this album is done. >> >> * Dave > > Hopefully, Peter can get back to us and let us know if all the audio > files in his session are .wav. Sounds like that might be the problem. Yes, that´s the problem. As soon as I changed the recording file type to AIFF the bounce succeeded. Strange. Where´s the relation there? Why does Apple not list their known issues? Those things can cost a day or more. :-( Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de

Guys: I have just upgraded my old MIX|3-and-DP4-on-OS9 system to a brand new HD3- Logic7-on-Panther, and it seems that a lot has happened on these matters, the main problem I am encountering is that as I had enabled CoreAudio, DAE and DTDM drivers, I am not able to create audio instrument tracks anymore!!! Anyone that has the patience for explaining this to a newbie?

You can¹t use all 3 audio drivers, only 2 of them. Core Audio and DTDM do not play nice with each other. Disable the core audio driver and keep DTDM and DAE enabled. Use DTDM objects for your audio instruments. Assign them to output to an ESB pair. Then make a DAE AUX object and sent the input to the same ESB pair. * Dave On 5/30/05 9:59 AM, "Nacho Rettally G." <nacho@...> wrote: > Guys: I have just upgraded my old MIX|3-and-DP4-on-OS9 system to a > brand new HD3- > Logic7-on-Panther, and it seems that a lot has happened on these > matters, the main > problem I am encountering is that as I had enabled CoreAudio, DAE and > DTDM drivers, I > am not able to create audio instrument tracks anymore!!! Anyone that > has the patience for > explaining this to a newbie? > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Hi all, Anyone experienced automation problems? I am doing a long mix of several tracks, and Logic periodically ignores automated fader movements. Stopping and starting fixes it, but that's not much good... Fixes anyone? Tony

Hi everybody, Here I am again. I have been a long time gone from this group, because all these messages are bringing me down. Now that I have LP 7.1 on my computer: I think LP is getting slower and slower and worse and worse. Is it just me, or do you guys feel the same? Best Regards Ingo

Ok guys. Anyone dared tried it out for real. Tiger/logic7/pt hd accel Especially interested if u are multitrack recording on hd accel g5 combo. Thinking of taking the plunge tomorrow before I start the next big project on Wednesday. Best Markus

No Problems here... But I didn't do multitrack recording yet since I moved to Tiger. Just up to stereo. Hope it helps anyway, Axel Am 31.05.2005 um 18:40 schrieb markus enochson: > Ok guys. > > Anyone dared tried it out for real. > > Tiger/logic7/pt hd accel > > Especially interested if u are multitrack recording on hd accel g5 > combo. > > > Thinking of taking the plunge tomorrow before I start the next big > project > on Wednesday. > > Best > > Markus > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

I've got a G4 933, and Logic is running better than ever for me. On May 31, 2005, at 4:37 AM, ingosand wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Here I am again. I have been a long time gone from this group, > because all these > messages are bringing me down. > > Now that I have LP 7.1 on my computer: > > I think LP is getting slower and slower and worse and worse. > > Is it just me, or do you guys feel the same? > > > Best Regards > > Ingo > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Thanks Dave for answering so fast! I will shut CoreAudio off now. The next question I guess it should be: What is the use of each driver? If I turn CoreAudio, what am I going to be missing? I need a lot of power but without messing up my system. Nacho

Don't know if this can have any bearing on things, but I've heard that Virex can slow computer operations down. Is Virex installed on the computer in question? Lee Blaske >I've got a G4 933, and Logic is running better than ever for me. > >On May 31, 2005, at 4:37 AM, ingosand wrote: > >> Hi everybody, >> >> Here I am again. I have been a long time gone from this group, >> because all these >> messages are bringing me down. >> >> Now that I have LP 7.1 on my computer: >> >> I think LP is getting slower and slower and worse and worse. >> >> Is it just me, or do you guys feel the same? >> >> >> Best Regards >> > > Ingo

hey bob.. what is your current setup? Still running on a G4 here also

i have read a few threads back that people are having issues with the esb and dtdmi tracks. one solution being installing an addtional audio card with lightpipe or adat and patching that directly into the 192 on an hd system. has anyone done this? is there marked improvements in stability so far as using dtdmi / au instruments on these "native" style tracks? i am thinking of getting an rme DIGI9652 and wanted to see if anyone has any experience with this method of working. i am simply done with unwanted tdm errors or A.U.Q. errors and am ready to try alternate solutions to the problem. thank you. d G5 2.5DP/4.5GB RAM/LP 6.4.3/OSX.3.8/PTHD3/ATTO SCSI/EXPANSION CHASSIS/

Core audio and DTDM are the same thing with two differences: Core audio connects to external audio interfaces (but not the Pro Tools TDM ones) It can do input and output, but it does not connect to DAE/TDM objects. DTDM (direct TDM) does not connect to outside devices at all, but it connects through the ESB (Emagic System Bridge) to send its audio to DAE/TDM objects. The processing of the audio instruments and apple loops and native Logic plugins are the same for DTDM and Core Audio. Think of the TDM mixer and the native mixer as two separate mixers. The native one can be either core audio or DTDM but not both. To get the sound from native to TDM, you can use DTDM and the ESB software bridge, or you can use Core audio instead but then you need an external hardware interface (such as the MOTU 828) to use a lightpipe and send the audio into the digidesign interface. So DTDM is easier. What it does not give you that the core audio method gives you is a way to send the sound back from TDM to native ­ but most people don¹t need that. There is a lot about this in the manual, so even though it¹s a slog, I recommend you look these things up and read all the boring details! * Dave On 5/31/05 10:21 AM, "Nacho Rettally" <nacho@...> wrote: > Thanks Dave for answering so fast! I will shut CoreAudio off now. > > The next question I guess it should be: > > What is the use of each driver? > > If I turn CoreAudio, what am I going to be missing? > > I need a lot of power but without messing up my system. > > Nacho > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Virex support has been dropped by Apple as of 10.4 anyway, so why keep it around? As of 10.4 there is no good anti-virus solution for OS X but it does not eem to be an issue. * Dave On 5/31/05 10:32 AM, "Lee Blaske" <lblaske@...> wrote: > Don't know if this can have any bearing on things, but I've heard > that Virex can slow computer operations down. Is Virex installed on > the computer in question? > > Lee Blaske > >> >I've got a G4 933, and Logic is running better than ever for me. >> > >> >On May 31, 2005, at 4:37 AM, ingosand wrote: >> > >>> >> Hi everybody, >>> >> >>> >> Here I am again. I have been a long time gone from this group, >>> >> because all these >>> >> messages are bringing me down. >>> >> >>> >> Now that I have LP 7.1 on my computer: >>> >> >>> >> I think LP is getting slower and slower and worse and worse. >>> >> >>> >> Is it just me, or do you guys feel the same? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Best Regards >>> >> >>> > > Ingo > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

G4 933, 1Gig Ram, OS X 10.3.9 PT HD2 - 192i/o I may get a firwire i/o so I can skip the ESB, but for now I deal with ESB and it sure is convenient. Also, as of this morning, I'm contemplating getting one of the MAGMA expansion chassis for my powebook. I'm getting tired of constantly dancing around with setups on both machines and trying to remember what was installed on one and not the other etc. etc. but I don't know, the lack of L3 cache on these powerbooks seems to be kind of a bummer when it comes to native processing. anyone have any thoughts on this? bob On May 31, 2005, at 10:37 AM, khaarmeyer@... wrote: > hey bob.. what is your current setup? Still running on a G4 here > also > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

On 01/06/2005, at 3:52 AM, David Gordon wrote: > So DTDM is easier. What it does not give you that the core audio > method > gives you is a way to send the sound back from TDM to native – but most > people don’t need that. Hi. I don't quite understand what you mean by this. Do you mean you can't record into logic via DTDM/ESB? And that's why you use DAE alongside it? I'm curious as I just transfered to DTDM and DAE rather than CoreAudio. Richard.

Yes, that is correct ­ you cannot record outside audio into a DTDM track. You can move audio tracks from DAE to DTDM ­ for example if you want to use a Logic plugin to process the recorded audio. But there is no way to get live audio from the external inputs to the native tracks in DTDM. DTDM does not have access to any external audio hardware ­ other than output, through ESB, into the TDM mixer. * Dave On 5/31/05 5:22 PM, "PLASMA sonic productions" <studiob@...> wrote: > On 01/06/2005, at 3:52 AM, David Gordon wrote: > >> > So DTDM is easier. What it does not give you that the core audio >> > method >> > gives you is a way to send the sound back from TDM to native ­ but most >> > people don¹t need that. > > Hi. > I don't quite understand what you mean by this. Do you mean you can't > record into logic via DTDM/ESB? And that's why you use DAE alongside > it? > > I'm curious as I just transfered to DTDM and DAE rather than CoreAudio. > > Richard. > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Thanks Dave. That's fine. Just little things like that take a bit of getting used to. So far things are running much better than with CoreAudio (fingers crossed). Cheers, R. On 01/06/2005, at 10:26 AM, David Gordon wrote: > Yes, that is correct – you cannot record outside audio into a DTDM > track. > You can move audio tracks from DAE to DTDM – for example if you want > to use > a Logic plugin to process the recorded audio. But there is no way to > get > live audio from the external inputs to the native tracks in DTDM. > DTDM does > not have access to any external audio hardware – other than output, > through > ESB, into the TDM mixer. > > * Dave > > > > On 5/31/05 5:22 PM, "PLASMA sonic productions" <studiob@...> > wrote: > >> On 01/06/2005, at 3:52 AM, David Gordon wrote: >> >>>> So DTDM is easier. What it does not give you that the core audio >>>> method >>>> gives you is a way to send the sound back from TDM to native – but >>>> most >>>> people don’t need that. >> >> Hi. >> I don't quite understand what you mean by this. Do you mean you can't >> record into logic via DTDM/ESB? And that's why you use DAE alongside >> it? >> >> I'm curious as I just transfered to DTDM and DAE rather than >> CoreAudio. >> >> Richard. >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Hi Everybody, the progress is going backwards for me, from feeling that stability was improved with 7.1 update, I'm now getting back to the state of 7.01. I would be very glad for any help or comments on this: Had several crashes in a row now, does "clock sleep trap" and "nanoclock sleep" in the crash log say anything to you? When zooming in on regions for fine-editing, does your graphics slow down, making everything unbearably sluggish? The song rec. path problem is still there, so is the problems with Ampfarm 3 and Izotope Trash. For me. For you that have upgraded to Tiger, how's stability? Despite the issues that some of you already reported. I will now quit using Logic for a while, since I'm dead tired of all these timeconsuming little "issues" and the simply unbearable lack of support and/or information from Apple who's pretending that everything is fine with their "Pro" program. Seems like moving to ProTools is the only way to get a life right now, at least they speak to their customers, but I'll be monitoring this list to see what happens, and I'd be glad for any help and comments on my questions. I'd also would like to express my deep gratitude to everybody on this list that has provided all the useful tips and help needed to continue working with Logic. Thanks, Alar

I upgraded one OS partition to Tiger and I think things have slowed down and become more flakey with logic. I've gone back to 10.3.9 for the time being. Don On Jun 1, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Alar Suurna wrote: > For you that have upgraded to Tiger, how's stability? Despite the > issues > that some of you already reported.

Hi Alar Sorry to hear about your problems. Certainly, something must be off in your system because Logic 7.1/PT6.9/10.3.8 is working well for many on this list. I can¹t reply about Tiger since I haven¹t upgraded yet. Some have taken the jump but my feeling is to wait for more reports on that before I do. If you would rather get your Logic system working than switch to Pro Tools though, it is possible. Try posting all the details here, including your system configuration and maybe someone will have a solution. I also believe that it would be possible for you to get help from both Apple and Digi if you take approach tech support in an organized, friendly yet assertive manner. There were some excellent posts about working with tech support in this list which you can read on the yahoo groups website (look for the thread digi-apple relationship). There is also a searchable forum on the Apple support site I have found helpful ­ have you tried that? Good luck! * Dave On 6/1/05 10:18 AM, "Alar Suurna" <allarts@...> wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > the progress is going backwards for me, from feeling that stability > was improved with 7.1 update, I'm now getting back to the state > of 7.01. I would be very glad for any help or comments on this: > > Had several crashes in a row now, does "clock sleep trap" and > "nanoclock sleep" in the crash log say anything to you? > > When zooming in on regions for fine-editing, does your graphics > slow down, making everything unbearably sluggish? > > The song rec. path problem is still there, so is the problems with > Ampfarm 3 and Izotope Trash. For me. > > For you that have upgraded to Tiger, how's stability? Despite the issues > that some of you already reported. > > I will now quit using Logic for a while, since I'm dead tired of all these > timeconsuming little "issues" and the simply unbearable lack of support > and/or information from Apple who's pretending that everything is fine > with their "Pro" program. > Seems like moving to ProTools is the only way to get a life right now, > at least they speak to their customers, > but I'll be monitoring this list to see what happens, and I'd be glad forany > help and comments on my questions. I'd also would like to express my > deep gratitude to everybody on this list that has provided all the useful > tips and help needed to continue working with Logic. > > Thanks, Alar > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >