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Hi,
i´m using a magma 7 slot 32 bit, with HD 3 accel. Works fine on G5
with
ProTools, but with Logic 6.43 aprox. two crashes per day while loading
new songs with many DAE Plugs in conjunction with NI Kontakt. Without
NI-Plugs almost no problems...
Thomas
Am 27.05.2005 um 15:44 schrieb Newsletter:
> Hi
>
> How many of you use a pci expansion chassis together with a G5?
> What kind? (7 or 13 slots, digi,sbs or magma, 32 or 64bit, 33 or 66MHz)
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> versuch mal, den record path für audio files neu zu setzen.
Meistens
> gehts dann wieder...
Viel dank - Ich probiere es nächstes mal...
(hope that's right :-))
peter
I'm just curious. Has anyone updated to Tiger and got a chance to see if
HTDM might still be
working?
Thanks In Advance,
Erik
Hello,
Logic 7.1 will not load. Setting up Memory buffers ... then freezeup
and force quite. wow ...
I can get logic 6.4.3 to load and work perfectly. I reinsalled logic
7 and i still get the errors. Yuk.
Any ideas ?? i have been searching other posts and apple help, bla
bla ... i can't find anything on this one.
NO I DIDN'T DO A CLEAN INTALL ... TOO MANY AUTHORIZATIONS TO DEAL WITH.
ugh ....
Thanks in advance
M.
From: Thomas Rabitsch <thomas@...>
> i´m using a magma 7 slot 32 bit, with HD 3 accel. Works fine on
G5
> with
> ProTools, but with Logic 6.43 aprox. two crashes per day while loading
> new songs with many DAE Plugs in conjunction with NI Kontakt. Without
> NI-Plugs almost no problems...
Kontakt can do strange things when it's loading. I'm not sure of the
circumstances that trigger its problems, and I haven't seen them for
a while (maybe an old bug?), but it has a history of loading
everything three times.
So what I'm wondering is if it's shuffling memory around. If so, that
would relate to your having problems with lots of TDM plug-ins.
Perhaps the solution is either more RAM or lighter loads in each
Kontakt instance would solve the problem?
***
By the way, the Magma chassis doesn't allow MIX hardware to work on
G5s, in case anyone was curious. :(
Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher
Virtual Instruments magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers
www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com
1-877 VImagzn (846-2496)
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101
What is your OS version?
On 5/28/05 1:00 PM, "myronpoo" <myronpoo@...> wrote:
> Hello,
> Logic 7.1 will not load. Setting up Memory buffers ... then freezeup
> and force quite. wow ...
>
> I can get logic 6.4.3 to load and work perfectly. I reinsalled logic
> 7 and i still get the errors. Yuk.
>
> Any ideas ?? i have been searching other posts and apple help, bla
> bla ... i can't find anything on this one.
>
> NO I DIDN'T DO A CLEAN INTALL ... TOO MANY AUTHORIZATIONS TO DEAL WITH.
>
> ugh ....
>
> Thanks in advance
> M.
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...well, i have 4,5 G RAM, isn´t that enough?
Am 28.05.2005 um 22:29 schrieb Nick Batzdorf:
> From: Thomas Rabitsch <thomas@...>
>
>
>> i´m using a magma 7 slot 32 bit, with HD 3 accel. Works fine
on G5
>> with
>> ProTools, but with Logic 6.43 aprox. two crashes per day while
loading
>> new songs with many DAE Plugs in conjunction with NI Kontakt.
Without
>> NI-Plugs almost no problems...
>
> Kontakt can do strange things when it's loading. I'm not sure of the
> circumstances that trigger its problems, and I haven't seen them for
> a while (maybe an old bug?), but it has a history of loading
> everything three times.
>
> So what I'm wondering is if it's shuffling memory around. If so, that
> would relate to your having problems with lots of TDM plug-ins.
> Perhaps the solution is either more RAM or lighter loads in each
> Kontakt instance would solve the problem?
>
> ***
>
> By the way, the Magma chassis doesn't allow MIX hardware to work on
> G5s, in case anyone was curious. :(
>
Oh yeah,
stats ...
G5 2x2 2.5gig ram/ OS 10.4 /Logic 7.1 /Protools 6.9.2
Protools works great. Logic 7.1 gets the splash screen the freezes
(HUNG) with a "setting up memory buffers" in the bottom left
within
the logic startup splash.
Logic 6.4.3 works in this current set up.
I have fixed permissions 427 times today. I still wonder if there is
a permission issure within the Logic program??? I tried changing the
Ownership manually... i have nothing to loose at this point.
Any suggestions????
Thanks,
M
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> On 5/28/05 1:00 PM, "myronpoo" <myronpoo@y...> wrote:
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> > Hello,
> > Logic 7.1 will not load. Setting up Memory buffers ... then
freezeup
> > and force quite. wow ...
> >
> > I can get logic 6.4.3 to load and work perfectly. I reinsalled
logic
> > 7 and i still get the errors. Yuk.
> >
> > Any ideas ?? i have been searching other posts and apple help, bla
> > bla ... i can't find anything on this one.
> >
> > NO I DIDN'T DO A CLEAN INTALL ... TOO MANY AUTHORIZATIONS TO DEAL
WITH.
> >
> > ugh ....
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > M.
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It does sound like a permissions issue, but you¹ve already checked
that.
Is all of your RAM from Apple or is it third party? If it¹s not Apple
RAM,
it could be bad. Well Apple RAM could be bad too but less likely.
Here¹s what I would try next, and test launching logic after each step.
Also, I would keep Activity Monitor open while starting Logic, listing all
processes, sorting by CPU%. That can give you an idea of what is most
active when the crash happens.
(1) update your OS to 10.4.1 (it¹s approved by Digi), then repair
permissions again, then test
If that doesn¹t work...
(2) disable spotlight for your whole system drive (open spotlight prefs,
click privacy, add your startup drive to the list), then repair permissions
again, then test
If that doesn¹t work,
(3) make a new user account and try it from there, then repair permissions
again, then test
If you have TechTool pro, you could try that. You could also start up from
your installer disk and check the file system on your start up drive.
Good luck!
* Dave
On 5/28/05 6:09 PM, "myronpoo" <myronpoo@...> wrote:
> Oh yeah,
> stats ...
> G5 2x2 2.5gig ram/ OS 10.4 /Logic 7.1 /Protools 6.9.2
>
> Protools works great. Logic 7.1 gets the splash screen the freezes
> (HUNG) with a "setting up memory buffers" in the bottom left
within
> the logic startup splash.
>
> Logic 6.4.3 works in this current set up.
>
> I have fixed permissions 427 times today. I still wonder if there is
> a permission issure within the Logic program??? I tried changing the
> Ownership manually... i have nothing to loose at this point.
>
> Any suggestions????
>
> Thanks,
> M
>
>
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>> > On 5/28/05 1:00 PM, "myronpoo" <myronpoo@y...>
wrote:
>> >
>>> > > Hello,
>>> > > Logic 7.1 will not load. Setting up Memory buffers
... then freezeup
>>> > > and force quite. wow ...
>>> > >
>>> > > I can get logic 6.4.3 to load and work perfectly. I
reinsalled logic
>>> > > 7 and i still get the errors. Yuk.
>>> > >
>>> > > Any ideas ?? i have been searching other posts and
apple help, bla
>>> > > bla ... i can't find anything on this one.
>>> > >
>>> > > NO I DIDN'T DO A CLEAN INTALL ... TOO MANY
AUTHORIZATIONS TO DEAL
> WITH.
>>> > >
>>> > > ugh ....
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks in advance
>>> > > M.
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The fade files can get messed up.
Try deleting & rebuilding them (audio window, file menu).
If you have a lot of edits with crossfades, unless you know you will be
changing them later, you can reduce the fade-file processing load by
bouncing the crossfaded regions or doing a glue tool digital mixdown of
them.
* Dave
On 5/28/05 4:47 AM, "peterlemer" <plemer@...> wrote:
> I'm mixing a simple session in L7: 2 mono DAE tracks and one stereo
pair.
>
> Occasionally it won;t let me PLAY from a cycle point without first
telling me:
>
> 'File is Busy; oneor more files are open.
> result code = -47"
>
> If I press PLAY again it says:
>
> 'Fade update failed
> (error = -47)'
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> Then it plays the data as good as gold.
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> any ideas what can be causing this?
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> peter
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OK, after posting this on the list, I got mixed respoonses so I called
Apple and they couldn't figure out why aliases do not work when using
them to point the sampler instruments on another drive.
Most mentioned using Symbolic links and I have read mixed results on
using them.
Either way the fix was simple.
Leave the "real" sampler instruments folder in place and place
the "sampler instruments alias" inside of the "real"
sampler
instruments folder.
Hope that helps someone out!
Euro
4.5GB would rule out that theory. :)
I still think it's a memory management issue, though, if for no other
reason than because it's only doing it when you have the memory
stretched hard.
The alternative is that Kontakt is having a hard time finding its
samples, which I've also seen.
> From: Thomas Rabitsch
> Subject: Re: Re: PCI Expansion chassis + G5
>
> ...well, i have 4,5 G RAM, isn´t that enough?
>
> Am 28.05.2005 um 22:29 schrieb Nick Batzdorf:
>
>
>> From: Thomas Rabitsch <thomas@...>
>>
>>
>>
>>> i´m using a magma 7 slot 32 bit, with HD 3 accel. Works
fine on G5
>>> with
>>> ProTools, but with Logic 6.43 aprox. two crashes per day while
>>> loading
>>> new songs with many DAE Plugs in conjunction with NI Kontakt.
>>> Without
>>> NI-Plugs almost no problems...
>>>
>>
>> Kontakt can do strange things when it's loading. I'm not sure of
the
>> circumstances that trigger its problems, and I haven't seen them
for
>> a while (maybe an old bug?), but it has a history of loading
>> everything three times.
>>
>> So what I'm wondering is if it's shuffling memory around. If so,
that
>> would relate to your having problems with lots of TDM plug-ins.
>> Perhaps the solution is either more RAM or lighter loads in each
>> Kontakt instance would solve the problem?
>>
>> ***
>>
>> By the way, the Magma chassis doesn't allow MIX hardware to work on
>> G5s, in case anyone was curious. :(
>>
>
Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher
Virtual Instruments magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers
www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com
1-877 VImagzn (846-2496)
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101
Hi Myrompoo!
You need the "ProAppRuntime" for os X.4, you can find it in Apple
site
, pro applications.
this updater fixes it
regards
Victor - Brasil
Message: 7
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 01:09:11 -0000
From: "myronpoo" <myronpoo@...>
Subject: Re: Setting up Memory Buffer crash after updating to Tiger
Oh yeah,
stats ...
G5 2x2 2.5gig ram/ OS 10.4 /Logic 7.1 /Protools 6.9.2
Protools works great. Logic 7.1 gets the splash screen the freezes
(HUNG) with a "setting up memory buffers" in the bottom left
within
the logic startup splash.
Logic 6.4.3 works in this current set up.
I have fixed permissions 427 times today. I still wonder if there is
a permission issure within the Logic program??? I tried changing the
Ownership manually... i have nothing to loose at this point.
Any suggestions????
Thanks,
M
This has been a common problem this week after Digi updated PT so we
could all go to Tiger. The fix is to go to Apple and download and run
the Pro Applications updater (3.0?) for OS 10.4. This will fix the
crash at startup problem. Weird that it doesn't show up automatically
in the Software Update window, but I tore my hair out for an hour
before I tried this on a hunch. Others started reporting the same thing
over the next day or two. Let us know if this works.
-mark
Mark Henderson
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mark@...
952.210.4801
Ok you guys...
The Pro App updater worked. I tried everything else prior to this and
was very frustrated. I truely appriciate everyone's insight and
willingness to offer up anykind of advice.
I would like to offer up my first born as token of gratitude to
everyone on this list who helps people.
Thank you once again everyone...
M.
--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Mark Henderson <m.hender@c...>
wrote:
> This has been a common problem this week after Digi updated PT so
we
> could all go to Tiger. The fix is to go to Apple and download and
run
> the Pro Applications updater (3.0?) for OS 10.4. This will fix the
> crash at startup problem. Weird that it doesn't show up
automatically
> in the Software Update window, but I tore my hair out for an hour
> before I tried this on a hunch. Others started reporting the same
thing
> over the next day or two. Let us know if this works.
>
> -mark
>
>
> Mark Henderson
>
> ----------
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> mark@d...
> 952.210.4801
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>> From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
>> Which reminds me, did anyone see that new Apple commercial with
Steve
>> Jobs saying how much he hates Jon Hiseman's playing?
>>
>> :)
>
> And that Colosseum II will be removed from the iTunes Music Store?
>
> Thread carefully from now... :)
Trouble is, love it or hate it, we could not have recorded any of that music
on the current or any of the recent versions of logic TDM. None of us and
certainly not Gary Moore would have stood for the "interruptions"
for a
second. And I'll bet Steve Jobs knows nothing of our current problems with
logic or the deficiencies in my drumming - if only he did.
Most of what this group discusses are workarounds for problems that did not
exist in various previous versions.
Whilst all software writers have to grapple with the moving goalposts of
updated computer lines and operating systems, my view is that Emagic have
not coped with this well, despite seemingly being in bed with Apple for a
lot longer than just post the purchase. But the real issue is their
inability as a team to foresee and control the consequences of the code one
team member writes, on other parts of the program.
Having done considerable programming in low level code (a hobby for those
long boring days on the road,) and having seen the workings of several
software writing companies close up, I know that it is this control process
that is vital to an evolving program.
Can you hear me Steve.....shall I play louder?
Jon hiseman
I'm mixing a suite of poems + piano + violin.
I set up a session mix that worked - a few plugins, some auxes, a stero
output, 2 extra
tracks for stereo bounce.
In order to mix the second session, I simply did a total 'Replace' of the
environment based
on the first session.
These are the things that didn;t update:
1. text artefacts in track instrument names.
I solved this by doing a total CUT ( of entire Environment0 and re-PASTE
2. Tracks that were sent to bus 1&2 now sent to output 1&2
3. Track number allocations wrong
4. Track input allocations wrong
5. Track output allocations wrong
6. No plug-ins
7. No pans
Is there a reference in the manual how to do this: ie. how to apply a
successful specie mix
to a number of sessions?
tia
peter
The manual says you can do it, but I have never seen it work.
Instead, the way I do it is like this:
Duplicate the song with the wanted environment under a new name.
Erase all the track data and automation in that new song.
Close the song.
Open the song with the new tracks that you want to mix.
Select all of the arrange page objects. Copy to clipboard.
Open the new song. Paste all the tracks you copied.
Then go through and make corrections as need to match the tracks to the
environment.
If anyone else has a better procedure, I would love to find out the
environment replace problems have been fixed and can now be used!
* dAve
On 5/29/05 3:56 PM, "peterlemer" <plemer@...> wrote:
> I'm mixing a suite of poems + piano + violin.
>
> I set up a session mix that worked - a few plugins, some auxes, a stero
> output, 2 extra
> tracks for stereo bounce.
>
> In order to mix the second session, I simply did a total 'Replace' of
the
> environment based
> on the first session.
>
> These are the things that didn;t update:
>
> 1. text artefacts in track instrument names.
> I solved this by doing a total CUT ( of entire Environment0 and
re-PASTE
>
> 2. Tracks that were sent to bus 1&2 now sent to output 1&2
>
> 3. Track number allocations wrong
>
> 4. Track input allocations wrong
>
> 5. Track output allocations wrong
>
> 6. No plug-ins
>
> 7. No pans
>
> Is there a reference in the manual how to do this: ie. how to apply a
> successful specie mix
> to a number of sessions?
>
> tia
>
> peter
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On 30/05/2005, at 9:27 AM, David Gordon wrote:
> The manual says you can do it, but I have never seen it work.
>
> Instead, the way I do it is like this:
>
> Duplicate the song with the wanted environment under a new name.
>
> Erase all the track data and automation in that new song.
>
> Close the song.
>
> Open the song with the new tracks that you want to mix.
>
> Select all of the arrange page objects. Copy to clipboard.
>
> Open the new song. Paste all the tracks you copied.
>
> Then go through and make corrections as need to match the tracks to the
> environment.
>
>
>
> If anyone else has a better procedure, I would love to find out the
> environment replace problems have been fixed and can now be used!
Up till Ver7 this is what I used to do. This approach got broke for me
in ver7. Since 7.1 it's working again.One thing that is critical about
this approach is that you set the tempo of the song you're pasting your
regions into the same as the tempo from the song they come from. Also
if you're copying midi regions make sure you "Turn Aliases To Real
Copies" before you cut & paste as these get messed up badly in this
copy from one song to another stuff.
I've just tested the import by total replace again and it does seem to
work very well indeed but it is a 2 part process and to the best of my
knowledge this is not made very clear anywhere in the manual.
Open the mix template song with plugs/ instruments etc. Then go to the
Audio Configuration window and invoke Copy from the local menu. Close
that song. Open up the song with the recorded tracks in it you want to
mix. Do the environment total replace. Then go to the Audio
Configuration window and invoke Paste from the local menu. This worked
perfectly for me just now in 7.1 & OS X.3.9. Plugins, instruments,
names, everything.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Paul Najar
Jaminajar Music Production
www.jaminajar.com
Hey Erik!
Been offline. It's not the group it's just me!
I have swapped from CoreAudio to using both the ESB (thru DTDM) and
DAE. DAE for Audio Tracks (so its going straight out the 192) and then
DTDM for Audio Instruments. Buses I have 1-8 thru ESB/DTDM (so I can
use the awesome Space Designer verb), and the 9-16 thru DAE.
Thought it was working ok, but crashed again now. Seems to take a
little longer to crash, which is something I guess.
Signing off now.
Thanks R.
On 25/05/2005, at 11:37 PM, Erik Häusler wrote:
> For some weird reason my emails to this group seem to disappear at
> random since yesterday (maybe the moderators woke up a week late), so
> I´m sending this once again:
>
> Ok Richard,
> I can´t garantee anything, but upgrading to V5.01 may improve the
> situation. The upgrade from 5.0 to 5.01 on the AU side made a
> significant change in stability here. My problems with the
> Spectrasonics plugs for one vanished!
>
> Best
>
> /E
>
>
> _______________________________
>
> Erik Häusler
> Future Love Productions AB
> Ehrensvärdsgatan 6
> 112 35 Stockholm
> tel. +46 8 650 20 81
> mob. +46 708 650 550
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>
> 2005-05-25 kl. 01.41 skrev PLASMA sonic productions:
>
>> Hey Erik.
>> I use Waves v 4.
>>
>> I am going to try running with DAE. And also trash prefs, and load
no
>> 3rd party plugs. See what happens I suppose.
>> I hear differing things about L7. Some say it's solid while some
say
>> it's better to stay with L6. Depends on the system.
>>
>> I am in Sydney, and left my computer last night before your last
>> messages. Thanks again for your help!
>>
>> R.
>>
>> On 25/05/2005, at 2:34 AM, Erik Häusler wrote:
>>
>>> This group doesn´t seem to work all too well today, no
letters coming
>>> through but anyway,
>>> switching to L7 was, in spite of all the thousands of bugs and
flaws
>>> a
>>> big step towards stability for me and my rig. Although each
setup
>>> seems
>>> to have its own personality (set of flaws and bugs) I am at
loss here
>>> when it comes to who´s gone back to L6. Especially in
conjunction
>>> with
>>> new hardware. If you have a rig on the mix/mixplus system it is
a
>>> different issue, since support is no longer provided, so
sticking
>>> with
>>> a setup that works and skipping all the new goodies is much
more of a
>>> viable if not favorable alternative.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> /E
>>>
>>> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.8, HD Accel 3,PT 6.9, L7.1
>>> _______________________________
>>>
>>> Erik Häusler
>>> Future Love Productions AB
>>> mob. +46 708 650 550
>>> erik@...
>>>
>>> 2005-05-24 kl. 17.27 skrev hafler03:
>>>
>>>> is it really true that logic 7 is much better and more
stable than
>>>> v6?
>>>> i have been reading
>>>> most of the articles that would say to stick with v6.
>>>>
>>>> thank you.
>>>>
>>>> d
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Hi Everyone
Has anyone been able to make Direct I/O work on a G5 with an HD2 and Pro
Tools 6.9 installed?
TDM seems fine, Coreaudio is workable, but the ESB I/O is just not working
for me.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Scott Wilson
It¹s working for many of us. What specifically is the problem?
* Dave
On 5/29/05 7:45 AM, "OtherWorld" <otherworld@...> wrote:
> Hi Everyone
>
> Has anyone been able to make Direct I/O work on a G5 with an HD2 and
Pro
> Tools 6.9 installed?
>
> TDM seems fine, Coreaudio is workable, but the ESB I/O is just not
working
> for me.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott Wilson
>
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Direct I/O inputs aren't working, although the profile loads fine when Logic
starts. I can see the inputs, but it doesn't access the 192.
Thanks
Scott
On 5/30/05 3:24 AM, "David Gordon" <music-pro@...> wrote:
> It¹s working for many of us. What specifically is the problem?
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>> TDM seems fine, Coreaudio is workable, but the ESB I/O is just not
working
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the question is - whose crashes work better?
Jon's or Steve's?
Paiste's or Apple's?
peter
This (#*$)(* asshole tricked me into entering my email address, and I
just wanted to warn everyone not to be lax. He's most likely
harvesting addresses from one of the Logic lists.
From: logic-faq@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [logic-faq] Digest Number 75
Date: May 30, 2005 3:44:38 AM PDT
To: logic-faq@yahoogroups.com
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There is 1 message in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Jason wants to contact you
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Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 22:47:45 +0100
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Subject: Jason wants to contact you
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