i got the same email this morning. i have a feeling that apple is getting slammed with tiger so everything else is not top priority. just a little speculation on my part. i was looking forward to getting the upgrade this week. -kacy On Apr 28, 2005, at 8:28 AM, Lee Blaske wrote: > This is kind of a drag. I just got a notice that shipping of my copy > of Logic 7.1 is delayed to 5/19/05. I had ordered it immediately > after I read about it. Wonder what's up. >

Hi I found a new site dedicated to Logic files sharing (channel strips, icons, environments, templates and settings). Apart the icons, you still won't find a lot of files, because the site is one month old, but it's growing fast. the site is www.logicprofiles.com

From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@...> >did I wake up this morning? ROTFLMAO -- Nick Batzdorf - editor Virtual Instruments magazine (the world of softsynths and samplers) www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496), 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...> >This is kind of a drag. I just got a notice that shipping of my copy >of Logic 7.1 is delayed to 5/19/05. I had ordered it immediately >after I read about it. Wonder what's up. If you install one signal, it can affect the traffic ten miles away. I think that's what software engineering must be like. -- Nick Batzdorf - editor Virtual Instruments magazine (the world of softsynths and samplers) www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496), 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

The reason for the delay is that Apple is running a test. They are delaying the shipments only to people on this list, then monitoring the list traffic to get a good laugh. (joking!) On 4/28/05 10:27 AM, "Nick Batzdorf" <recording@...> wrote: > From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...> > >> >This is kind of a drag. I just got a notice that shipping of my copy >> >of Logic 7.1 is delayed to 5/19/05. I had ordered it immediately >> >after I read about it. Wonder what's up. > > If you install one signal, it can affect the traffic ten miles away. > I think that's what software engineering must be like.

Thanks Dean, those are some great ideas. >If you create an environment layer of audio objects (auxes) dedicated for TDM >instruments like Indigo, they can show up in one sub-menu in the arrange >window. >If you open a stereo virus on an aux, then change it to mono (the plug de- >instanciates, but is still stored) and then save the autolaoad, this >will work. >When you want to use it in a song, switch it back to stereo, and presto, your >Indigo is ready to use. It's midi front end will then reappear as an available >midi port option for midi tracks. So you could pre-cable some midi instrument >objects already named to those auxes, but you would have to select the right >midi port when you were ready to use those pre-cabled objects. You would >need to do the pre-cabling and naming of those pre-prepped midi instruments >in the environment layer that you set up for these auxes. > >Dean Bailin

I wonder if I've bumped my head on a limit within Logic. Can there be more than 64 combined interface MIDI ports and TDM MIDI connections within Logic Pro 7? I currently have six AMT8s for a total of 48 ports. I was just experimenting with configuring instrument objects for Virus Indigo, and discovered that after I had instanciated 16 Virus plug-ins (Indigo 1A-H and 2A-H), I could not instanciate any more. Added up, that gave me 64 ports (it's a shame you have to blow a separate port for each instance of Indigo that's functioning on the same DSP chip). I also tried instanciating other TDM plug-ins that would create a MIDI port (like AutoTune, Bruno, etc.), and they wouldn't do it once I already had 64 ports. I can't seem to find anything about this in the manual. Is 64 combined MIDI interface and TDM ports the maximum, or is there a way to create more? It's going to ruin my day if I can't have 64 instances of Virus Indigo set up in my Autoload. How can I create with such limitations? Also, for future reference, if 64 ports is the limit, are MIDI pipes constructed with MOL software subtract from the 64 port limit, or do they come into Logic in a different way? Lee Blaske

Great way to do it. Switching to mono de-instanciates the plug, but I've alwasys wondered if the plug still taking resouces in the session? It seems to come back pretty quickly when switching back to stereo. Mark --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Lee Blaske <lblaske@p...> wrote: > Thanks Dean, those are some great ideas. > > >If you create an environment layer of audio objects (auxes) dedicated for TDM > >instruments like Indigo, they can show up in one sub-menu in the arrange > >window. > >If you open a stereo virus on an aux, then change it to mono (the plug de- > >instanciates, but is still stored) and then save the autolaoad, this > >will work. > >When you want to use it in a song, switch it back to stereo, and presto, your > >Indigo is ready to use. It's midi front end will then reappear as an available > >midi port option for midi tracks. So you could pre-cable some midi instrument > >objects already named to those auxes, but you would have to select the right > >midi port when you were ready to use those pre-cabled objects. You would > >need to do the pre-cabling and naming of those pre-prepped midi instruments > >in the environment layer that you set up for these auxes. > > > >Dean Bailin

Hi All, I've converted my Rex files to Apple Loops. Now... how do I find them in the Loop Browser...? Do I have to edit each converted Rex-file so they end up in the listed catagories, or is there a smoother way to find them? Thanks, Fredrik

Music anyone? How´bout bypassing all this and just getting down to why we´re doing it. I bet you the software isn´t the problem. Nor the solution. If you want me to I´ll play for you. You helped me getting my rig together. Now it´s payback time. Just for the fun of it. Best /E G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.8, PT 6.7cs8, L7.01. And a fast f-g internet connection. _______________________________ Erik Häusler Future Love Productions AB mob. +46 708 650 550 erik@... 2005-04-28 kl. 21.05 skrev Lee Blaske: > I wonder if I've bumped my head on a limit within Logic. Can there be > more than 64 combined interface MIDI ports and TDM MIDI connections > within Logic Pro 7? I currently have six AMT8s for a total of 48 > ports. I was just experimenting with configuring instrument objects > for Virus Indigo, and discovered that after I had instanciated 16 > Virus plug-ins (Indigo 1A-H and 2A-H), I could not instanciate any > more. Added up, that gave me 64 ports (it's a shame you have to blow > a separate port for each instance of Indigo that's functioning on the > same DSP chip). I also tried instanciating other TDM plug-ins that > would create a MIDI port (like AutoTune, Bruno, etc.), and they > wouldn't do it once I already had 64 ports. > > I can't seem to find anything about this in the manual. Is 64 > combined MIDI interface and TDM ports the maximum, or is there a way > to create more? > > It's going to ruin my day if I can't have 64 instances of Virus > Indigo set up in my Autoload. How can I create with such limitations? > > Also, for future reference, if 64 ports is the limit, are MIDI pipes > constructed with MOL software subtract from the 64 port limit, or do > they come into Logic in a different way? > > Lee Blaske > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

Is any one using Guitar Rig. I have been frustrated with NI lack of response to my desperate queries I have asked for help three times and three times I get no response except the automatic don't answer we'll get back to you. I have posted numerous times on both logic user's groups but no one seems to be able to help. GR just doesn't work in Logic 7 TDM for me. I get all kinds of weird glitches. Some times the sound drops down to half volume meters still show signal but sound is cut by half. I can't click on any amps the pointer becomes useless, it stays on one function and I can't change anything. It's wacky. It works fine in Pro tools so I'm thinking it's a logic issue .Does any one have a phone number for NI or any insights. I am tearing my hair out. Jake

I don't know what to tell you. I've got 2 systems where it is working fine in TDM. I will check again tonight and see if I can provide any info for you other than I have in the past. b. On Apr 28, 2005, at 8:15 PM, jake holmes wrote: > Is any one using Guitar Rig. I have been frustrated with NI lack of > response to my desperate queries I have asked for help three times and > three times I get no response except the automatic don't answer we'll > get back to you. I have posted numerous times on both logic user's > groups but no one seems to be able to help. GR just doesn't work in > Logic 7 TDM for me. I get all kinds of weird glitches. Some times the > sound drops down to half volume meters still show signal but sound is > cut by half. I can't click on any amps the pointer becomes useless, it > stays on one function and I can't change anything. It's wacky. It works > fine in Pro tools so I'm thinking it's a logic issue .Does any one have > a phone number for NI or any insights. I am tearing my hair out. > Jake > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hi Group!... Has anyone out there experienced problems recording audio in Logic 7? I'm slowly shifting to MaxOSX and Logic 7 with PT6.4.1 (Mix-system). When I try to record audio in TDM I don't get any information in my audiofiles. I here the incoming signal and I can route it through the system, but nothing gets recorded on the hard-drive. Also, I have audio dropouts on my TDM-audiotracks. If I play back a song, the TDM audiotracks suddenly stops playing back any sound. I'm also unable to use the bounce-function. Would appreciate some views on this!... My system: G4 2x1 GHz, 1,5 GB RAM ProTools 6.4.1 Mix+ Logic 7.0.1 :-) Fredrik

The non-recording problem and the non-bounce problem could be permissions issues. Use command-I in the Finder to check to make sure you have permissions set so you can read and write the directory where you are recording. If not, change the permissions as needed and give it another try. If you don¹t need the security of separate permissions and you are not using backup software that requires permissions, you could try setting the external volume to ignore permissions by using command-I after selecting the drive icon. If you are new to OS X I recommend you learn about permissions by reading the FAQ¹s on Apple¹s OS X support site and also searching this list¹s archive. Of course, it might be something else completely, but I suggest looking at permissions because when those are wrong, mysterious things can happen, like files not actually getting written even though the software seems to think they have been written OK. Regarding the sudden stopping of files in the midst of playback, I don¹t have any ideas about that. Good Luck! * Dave On 4/28/05 11:28 PM, "Fredrik Beckmann" <fredrik@...> wrote: > Hi Group!... > > Has anyone out there experienced problems recording audio in Logic 7? > > I'm slowly shifting to MaxOSX and Logic 7 with PT6.4.1 (Mix-system). > When I try to record audio in TDM I don't get any information in my > audiofiles. I here the incoming signal and I can route it through the > system, but nothing gets recorded on the hard-drive. > > Also, I have audio dropouts on my TDM-audiotracks. If I play back a > song, the TDM audiotracks suddenly stops playing back any sound. > > I'm also unable to use the bounce-function. > > Would appreciate some views on this!... > > My system: > > G4 2x1 GHz, 1,5 GB RAM > ProTools 6.4.1 > Mix+ > Logic 7.0.1 > > :-) Fredrik > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

I havent got mine. Ordered it staight away, cheked my apple store account and it said it still would ship on or before TODAY!.. Lets hope M Den 05-04-28 20.13, skrev "David Gordon" <music-pro@...>: > The reason for the delay is that Apple is running a test. > > They are delaying the shipments only to people on this list, then monitoring > the list traffic to get a good laugh. > > (joking!) > > > > On 4/28/05 10:27 AM, "Nick Batzdorf" <recording@...> wrote: > >> From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...> >> >>>> This is kind of a drag. I just got a notice that shipping of my copy >>>> of Logic 7.1 is delayed to 5/19/05. I had ordered it immediately >>>> after I read about it. Wonder what's up. >> >> If you install one signal, it can affect the traffic ten miles away. >> I think that's what software engineering must be like. > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hi, Has anyone upgraded to the Ampfarm 3.0? Is it worth it? I usually upgrade everything but I like Ampfarm the way it is so I'm a bit hesitant. Not that it's _that_ expensive but I could also get myself an extra iPod shuffle for those 99 bucks... Also - have you seen the Producer Pack Pro bundle? http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?body=/news/details.cfm@@story_id=2162&am p;lo calonly=N For $399 you get € moogerfooger Analog Delay € JOEMEEK Meequalizer VC-5 € JOEMEEK SC-2 Photo Optical Compressor € Cosmonaut Voice € Digidesign Maxim € Bomb Factory BF-3A Classic Compressor € Digidesign D-Fi € Tel-Ray Variable Delay € SansAmp PSA-1 € moogerfooger Ring Modulator € Voce® Spin € Voce Chorus/Vibrato Seems like a good deal to me; I already have some of those but I was curious how you like the Tel-Ray, Voce Spin, Joemeeks en Sansamp plugs. Thanks, Ivo

We've got an mix 24 and working under 9.2 and We're trying to run the logic under 10.3 with audio core but are getting a sinc error message. Is it a problem with the USD? How can we make this work? The university does not want to upgrade the system or the software. (Not my call) Any Help ??

I ordered mine yesterday in the Apple Store and the account says shipping today (or before), too. In fact I ordered it through my dealer right after it was announced, but lately Apple decided to not sell it through dealers... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de markus enochson wrote: > I havent got mine. Ordered it staight away, cheked my apple store > account and it said it still would ship on or before TODAY!.. Lets > hope > > M > > > Den 05-04-28 20.13, skrev "David Gordon" <music-pro@...>: > >> The reason for the delay is that Apple is running a test. >> >> They are delaying the shipments only to people on this list, then >> monitoring the list traffic to get a good laugh. >> >> (joking!) >> >> >> >> On 4/28/05 10:27 AM, "Nick Batzdorf" <recording@...> wrote: >> >>> From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...> >>> >>>>> This is kind of a drag. I just got a notice that shipping of my >>>>> copy of Logic 7.1 is delayed to 5/19/05. I had ordered it >>>>> immediately after I read about it. Wonder what's up. >>> >>> If you install one signal, it can affect the traffic ten miles away. >>> I think that's what software engineering must be like.

-> Has anyone out there experienced problems recording audio in Logic 7? yes - does the behaviour change if you switch the bitrate? peter

On Tuesday, April 26, 2005, at 08:59 PM, martin wrote: > > I say it's time to get back to hardware. Or at least to C-lab Notator. > Wasn't that the days? Just leaving the floppy in the drive so that > Notator > would boot instantly when you switched your Atari on? :) I had an Atari Falcon running an early version of Cubase. Multichannel digital audio was an unaffordable dream at that point. Now Logic Pro running on an entry level iMac blows away the capability of my old system with racks of Midi and outboard gear. I've embraced the new stuff and it works far better and sounds far more superior to anything I've had in the past. I'm also much more spontaneously creative. Eddie IMS > > m > >> From: Eddie Sullivan <esullivan@...> >> My posts have not been an attempt to address the situation where there >> is some real manufacturer defect in the operation of the digital audio >> system. >> >> Tech support is a 'process of elimination' in many cases. >> >> Digital audio systems are some of the most complex computing >> applications possible. My posts attempted to deal with end users who >> are unwilling or unable to approach tech support in the way that gets >> results most often. (like the letter to the editor in the magazine >> that >> was cited.) >> >> It sounds as if you may not be one of those types of end users. >> >> It is absolutely true that there are combinations of hardware and >> software that should work, which do not work. Manufacturers do often >> release products that are defective, we all know that. But in order to >> discover whether or one any one particular system has unresolvable >> issues, end users must be willing to work with tech support in the way >> that will uncover resolvable issues. I find that about 95% of >> technical >> support issues are due to end user error. This is my personal >> experience. I do have anecdotal evidence from other tech support >> professionals that this is fairly true of their experience as well. I >> know that this is true because I usually see these issues closed, and >> I >> see the resolution to them. >> >> In my mind, types of end user error include: >> >> 1) The end user is attempting to use the system in a way it is not >> designed to be used. >> >> 2) The end user does not understand the aspect of the system that they >> are having an issue with. >> >> 3) The end user has not properly registered some aspect of the system, >> or in some way does not legally own some aspect of the system. >> >> 4) The end user is using a non-recommended or unsupported system >> configuration. >> >> Note the distinction I make between non-recommended and unsupported. >> Unsupported means that the developer has not tested the configuration >> or has determined it will not work. End users often forget that just >> because something is supported doesn't guarantee optimal results, this >> falls under the category of non-recommended. (for instance- ProTools >> LE >> has an upper track limit of 32 tracks, this does not insure that an >> end >> user will get 32 tracks with an MBox on an iBook, although ProTools >> will run on this combination...) >> >> Investing in the 'least expensive' of available options, or closely >> adhering to the bare minimum of possible choices in system >> configurations (this includes keeping ancient computers working) will >> only guarantee minimal results. Sometimes minimal results are fine for >> certain end users. (There may be a 'singer/songwriter' out there who >> only ever records two stereo tracks at 96k, a vocal and an acoustic >> guitar- this end user would have different requirements for a digital >> audio system than someone mixing a film.) >> >> Assuming that my estimation that 95% of issues with digital audio >> systems are end user error is close to being accurate, it would make >> sense for a tech support professional, out of sheer efficacy, to >> assume >> that when an end user is calling the likely resolution lies in one of >> the above scenarios. Because there are a lot of end users who do not >> have the experience that the tech support professional has, they may >> get frustrated when tech support attempts to try to work through the >> problem from the perspective that the resolution lies in 'fixing' the >> end user. >> >> End users are usually not open to the idea that it is them, or their >> system that needs fixing. End users are quite adamant in many cases >> that tech support professionals provide an instant solution, and end >> users often strongly believe that an instant solution is possible. >> This >> is usually not because of any malicious intent, it is simply a matter >> of the end user not having enough experience or information about >> their >> system or digital audio computing in general. >> >> End users typically only think about their system holistically when >> there is an issue (i.e., when it stops working...) many end users >> inventing a series of often frustrating 'workarounds' in order to >> achieve minimal functionality. To further complicate matters, many end >> users are unwilling or unable to spend even the most minimal of time >> or >> money on tech support. Paid tech support packages usually represent a >> minimal percentage of the total investment of the system. (AppleCare >> is >> a bargain, is is a great idea to purchase this with every new Apple >> Computer, it extends 24/7 tech support to 3 years) >> >> Unfortunately, many end users experience problems in the middle of a >> busy work day, when there are clients present, or when they are faced >> with deadlines. They will be attempting something important to their >> business and their system fails in some way. In this scenario it is >> common for the end user to have an emotional response to the tech >> support professional, and engage in elaborate finger pointing at the >> developers involved. In many cases this scenario can be prevented by >> thinking of the system holistically before using the system for >> business. >> >> It is not cheaper to cut corners when designing the system and then >> have to waste many hours on tech support for issues that are easily >> prevented by properly following developer guidelines. >> >> One good thing to remember, especially as members of user groups like >> this, is that similar symptoms are often incorrectly attributed to the >> same cause. Two completely different users can experience the same >> symptoms for different reasons. It is important that end users not >> assume that because they have 'X' symptom that is is because of some >> 'known Y bug' that has entertained much discussion on their favorite >> user groups. Conversely, following some procedure to fix some symptom >> may work for some end users and not for others. >> >> It is not useful to be suspicious of any one tech support >> professional's credentials. You cannot fix the problem either, >> otherwise you would not be calling tech support. Even an 'experienced' >> tech support person has no concept of your individual system design >> when you call. There is going to always be a certain learning process >> for all tech support professionals regarding your system every time >> you >> call. Sometimes the questions tech support will ask will seem like >> 'stupid' questions to the end user and give the impression to the end >> user that they are dealing with someone stupid. Rather, end users >> should be suspicious of any tech support professional who instantly >> claims to know the resolution to their issue. There are simply too >> many >> possible variables to consider in complex digital audio systems. >> Sometimes when end users have taken the step to 'pay' for tech >> support, >> they are more convinced that they deserve an instant answer to their >> problem. Things do not work this way in real life. Paid tech support >> insures easier access, not instant solutions. >> >> Having a realistic mindset when dealing with tech support >> professionals >> is a good tool to getting quick resolution to issues when resolution >> is >> possible. >> >> Eddie >> IMS >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

On Tuesday, April 26, 2005, at 10:14 PM, Will Thomson wrote: > > Interesting to think back to those (seemingly) trouble-free days. Does > anyone think better music is being produced nowadays, with all the > technology available? Maybe it's me, but there seems to be an awful > lot of > samey-sounding stuff around. Like all eras, if you want to hear interesting stuff being produced now, you have to turn off the TV and radio and dig a little deeper... Eddie IMS > Some of the most creative local music I hear is > actually from young guitar-based bands using no computer based > technology at > all! (apart from recording etc) > > Will > > >> I say it's time to get back to hardware. Or at least to C-lab Notator. >> Wasn't that the days? Just leaving the floppy in the drive so that >> Notator >> would boot instantly when you switched your Atari on? :) > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

> Music anyone? sure! where you based? peter

IMO AMP FARM THREE IS BETTER than previous versions. It sounds better and there are way more options. Some of the mic placement option really rock and I like some of the speaker emulation too. I reccomend it.-Lon

>IMO AMP FARM THREE IS BETTER than previous versions. It sounds better and >there are way more options. Some of the mic placement option really rock and I >like some of the speaker emulation too. I reccomend it.-Lon It's a bit better, and most likely, anyone planning on continuing to use Amp Farm will need to upgrade, because Digidesign probably won't continue to upgrade the old version for compatibility. At the same time, Line 6's Pod Pro XT really blows even the new plug-in away. It has a lot more models and possibilities. Lee Blaske

Subject asks it all... peter