Hi Brio In my experiance this problem has always been there - so its not a fault in your system. I have tried in vain for years to make it go away but I can't. Same (or similar) problem with EXS TDM Auxs under OSX. Seems the only way round it is to print to audio and play all off the DAE engine. A guy from Emagic once told me that the delay was never more then 3 or 4 samples between the two engines. He must have been on the special emagic mac that never crashes and has no bugs :) Matt

Hey Matt, Is this only when running digi hardware or is this the case with native rigs too? /Erik > > > Hi Brio > > In my experiance this problem has always been there - so its not a fault in > your system. I > have tried in vain for years to make it go away but I can't. Same (or similar) > problem with > EXS TDM Auxs under OSX. Seems the only way round it is to print to audio and > play all off > the DAE engine. > > A guy from Emagic once told me that the delay was never more then 3 or 4 > samples > between the two engines. He must have been on the special emagic mac that > never > crashes and has no bugs :) > > Matt > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Thanx Erik, I dicovered the forum yesterday after posting my mess. I´ll try the rescanning like you suggested! Best /E 2005-01-30 kl. 01.16 skrev Erik Sojdelius: > > Japp! (Yes) > > Erik, keep an eye on the TT web forum's FAQ. The guys running it are > great, > they'll post the update(1.3.2) as soon as it's ready. > > Meanwhile you can actually reconfig' it and let AUVAL rescan it and it > might > work. Beware though!! Very loud noices can jump at you! So keep your > volume > down(!) while you experiment. The config is posted on the TT forum: > > http://www.toontrack.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=support; > action=display;n > um=1106136280;start=0#1 > > Later, > > Erik > >> >> Apparently this is an Apple/ L7.01 issue. >>> >>> Do you guys use Toontrack´s dfh drums? They seem to have disappeared >>> (except as mono instruments, I only use the multichannel one) since >>> switching to L7.01 / cs7. Don´t know since which one though. >>> >>> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs7, L7.01 >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Erik Häusler >>> Future Love Productions AB >>> mob. +46 708 650 550 >>> erik@... >>> >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

Hi Brio - maybe I misunderstood your point..... It is the case that Core tracks will not play in sync with DAE tracks - but DAE tracks should always be in sync with one another, and Core tracks should always be in sync with one another. So by definition, if you are on a native rig, you are only using core tracks, so they should all be in sync. The only problems I have had are with Core AND DAE. Hope that helps! Matt --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: > Hey Matt, > > Is this only when running digi hardware or is this the case with native rigs > too? > > /Erik >

Whats your hard disk status Dave? Don´t you get the feeling that the slowest part of your system is the culprit? It works fine while up and running, but if you surprise the computer you´d better have your HD´s in shape and they´d better be fast too. This is concurrent with most of what we´ve aired lately, relating it to FW400 disks and USB devices. And it always seems to work keeping the amount of external devices to a min. The buzz you´re talking about for me is linked to Stylus RMX. I haven´t had it for some time, it might be since I took the FW400 disk away. On 2005-01-30 at 08.07 David Gordon wrote: > > Unfortunately this just got worse on my system. It’s just a hassle > and not > a disaster, but now it’s more of a hassle. > > I experienced the don’t-go-to-lunch symptom tonight when I was actively > using Logic – the buzzing sound of a very short loop, followed by a > logic > crash. > > It happened while I was editing tracks on the arrange page, plenty of > disk > access and mouse/keyboard action going on. > > After the crash, everything was fine on re-launch. It happened several > times. Luckily I save constantly so I didn’t lose any work, though I > worry > that one day I might forget to save after an important sequence of > edits or > performance take. Once the buzzing sound starts, it’s too late to > save. > > I tried restarting the mac to see if that made it more stable, but > this same > kind of crash happened after that too. Then, after a few of them, > everything was fine for an hour at which point I shut down for the > night. > > I can’t think of anything different about my current session that could > bring this on. The plug-in and track count and number of edits loads > are > not particularly high – plenty of resources available on TDM and > native. No > warning or strange behavior before the crash, and no error message. > > Maybe this means it’s OK to go to lunch now. > > * Dave > -- > David Gordon > Composer/Producer > > Sequoia Records > Phone: 760-942-7574 > www.sequoiarecords.com > > > G4 dual 1G, 1.5G ram, HD2, FW400 audio drives, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs4, > L7 > > > > > On 1/29/05 12:47 PM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: > >> >> I do the same routine as you Dave, opening all the drives pretty far >> into subfolders I haven´t looked into during the day to be sure >> they´re >> not just opening something in the cache memory. Then I do a save. >> >> I somehow get the feeling that some kind of temporary cache memory >> unloading during a period of inactivity causes the DGTL-thing. That >> when it has to reload all the samples too quickly the whole system >> goes >> bezerk. If L7 could just wait another split second it would all be >> fine. >> >> Anybody? >> >> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs7, L7.01 >> _______________________________ >> >> Erik Häusler >> Future Love Productions AB >> mob. +46 708 650 550 >> erik@... >> >> David Gordon: >> >>>> >>>> I've tested this too. >>>> >>>> Everything is set properly - Energy saver not engaged, monitors & >>>> hard >>>> drives don't sleep, only using Apple keyboard and mouse. Some hard >>>> drives >>>> spin down when not in use - so I've even checked this by using >>>> another >>>> app >>>> to access each of the drives before returning to logic, to make sure >>>> they >>>> are all spinning, and I have found they were not spun down, so >>>> that's >>>> not >>>> the cause. >>>> >>>> In my system it's not intermittent - it happens every time the >>>> system >>>> is >>>> idle for a while, but the amount of time needed is variable - 15 to >>>> 20 >>>> minutes seems to be the minimum, but usually it won't happen until >>>> around a >>>> half-hour of inactivity. >>>> >>>> It seems to be related to the mouse & keyboard being idle, but >>>> energy >>>> saver >>>> settings don't affect it. >>>> >>>> - Dave >>>> >>>> David Gordon >>>> Composer/Producer >>>> www.sequoiarecords.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/29/05 9:26 AM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Same here, k/m out of the box, everything turned off the way it >>>>>> should >>>>>> energysavingwise... >>>>>> >>>>>> It doesn´t always occur though. I´m still trying to see if there >>>>>> is a >>>>>> way around it, like doing a save when coming back before starting >>>>>> the >>>>>> thing. No breakthroughs so far, it´s intermittent and you have to >>>>>> try >>>>>> it some before you can tell. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know Erik and a few others are experimenting as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> /E >>>>>> >>>>>> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs7, L7.01 >>>>>> _______________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Erik Häusler >>>>>> Future Love Productions AB >>>>>> mob. +46 708 650 550 >>>>>> erik@... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just the regular mouse/keys from the box here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /Erik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2005, at 7:03 AM, Erik Sojdelius wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Everything(energy/screen/drive save) is off here. Seems to >>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> mouse/keyboard >>>>>>>>>>>> related... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you have 3rd-party mouse or keyboard? Those may well cause >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> instability in the whole system. iKey and iBall Pro here, the >>>>>>>>>> latter >>>>>>>>>> still requires it's own control pannel, no problems at all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Andy

OK, got it, thanx! /Erik > > > Hi Brio - maybe I misunderstood your point..... > > It is the case that Core tracks will not play in sync with DAE tracks - but > DAE tracks should > always be in sync with one another, and Core tracks should always be in sync > with one > another. So by definition, if you are on a native rig, you are only using core > tracks, so they > should all be in sync. The only problems I have had are with Core AND DAE. > > Hope that helps! > > Matt > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: >> Hey Matt, >> >> Is this only when running digi hardware or is this the case with native rigs >> too? >> >> /Erik >> > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Peter Duemmler wrote: >>>I'm considering upgrading to a dual G5 because I rely on BFD drums >>>and my 933mghz g4 is just way to slow. However, I have TDM plugins >>>installed that authorized my Hard disk. Should I just install the >>>old hard disk into the new Computer and use it as my system disk? >>>Any problem with doinf this? Thanks, > > > Regarding your auths on the harddrive: They probably won´t work in OSX > anyway, it´s almost all iLok there. > Deauthorize the drive and put the disks in the closet... Tip: They need not be wasted, you can use them with a G5 via Firewire, just buy a Frirewire enclosure, pop your old ATA drives in and Bob's your uncle - useful FW backup drives. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments

That¹s a good point Erik! I'm on a dual G4 so all my external drives are firewire 400 - no 800 - and I keep the audio separate from sampler files, plus a drive for backups. I just did some tests and found out that my backup drive copies files much faster than the other drives. I think I¹ll move the audio to that drive to see if the problem goes away or at least happens less often. I¹ll let you know what I find out. * Dave On 1/30/05 4:44 AM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: > > Whats your hard disk status Dave? > > Don´t you get the feeling that the slowest part of your system is the > culprit? It works fine while up and running, but if you surprise the > computer you´d better have your HD´s in shape and they´d better be fast > too. This is concurrent with most of what we´ve aired lately, relating > it to FW400 disks and USB devices. And it always seems to work keeping > the amount of external devices to a min. > > The buzz you´re talking about for me is linked to Stylus RMX. > I haven´t had it for some time, it might be since I took the FW400 disk > away. > > > On 2005-01-30 at 08.07 David Gordon wrote: > >> >> Unfortunately this just got worse on my system. It¹s just a hassle and not a >> disaster, but now it¹s more of a hassle. >> >> I experienced the don¹t-go-to-lunch symptom tonight when I was actively using >> Logic ­ the buzzing sound of a very short loop, followed by a logic crash. >> >> It happened while I was editing tracks on the arrange page, plenty of disk >> access and mouse/keyboard action going on. >> >> After the crash, everything was fine on re-launch. It happened several >> times. >> Luckily I save constantly so I didn¹t lose any work, though I worry that one >> day I might forget to save after an important sequence of edits or >> performance >> take. Once the buzzing sound starts, it¹s too late to save. >> >> I tried restarting the mac to see if that made it more stable, but this same >> kind of crash happened after that too. Then, after a few of them, everything >> was fine for an hour at which point I shut down for the night. >> >> I can¹t think of anything different about my current session that could bring >> this on. The plug-in and track count and number of edits loads are not >> particularly high ­ plenty of resources available on TDM and native. No >> warning or strange behavior before the crash, and no error message. >> >> Maybe this means it¹s OK to go to lunch now. >> >> * Dave >> -- >> David Gordon >> Composer/Producer >> >> Sequoia Records >> Phone: 760-942-7574 >> www.sequoiarecords.com >> >> >> G4 dual 1G, 1.5G ram, HD2, FW400 audio drives, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs4, >> L7 >> >> >> >> >> On 1/29/05 12:47 PM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> I do the same routine as you Dave, opening all the drives pretty far >>> into subfolders I haven´t looked into during the day to be sure >>> they´re >>> not just opening something in the cache memory. Then I do a save. >>> >>> I somehow get the feeling that some kind of temporary cache memory >>> unloading during a period of inactivity causes the DGTL-thing. That >>> when it has to reload all the samples too quickly the whole system >>> goes >>> bezerk. If L7 could just wait another split second it would all be >>> fine. >>> >>> Anybody? >>> >>> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs7, L7.01 >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Erik Häusler >>> Future Love Productions AB >>> mob. +46 708 650 550 >>> erik@... >>> >>> David Gordon: >>>

All the best of luck! /E 2005-01-30 kl. 19.31 skrev David Gordon: > > That’s a good point Erik! I'm on a dual G4 so all my external drives > are > firewire 400 - no 800 - and I keep the audio separate from sampler > files, > plus a drive for backups. I just did some tests and found out that my > backup drive copies files much faster than the other drives. I think > I’ll > move the audio to that drive to see if the problem goes away or at > least > happens less often. > > I’ll let you know what I find out. > > * Dave > > > > > On 1/30/05 4:44 AM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: > >> >> Whats your hard disk status Dave? >> >> Don´t you get the feeling that the slowest part of your system is the >> culprit? It works fine while up and running, but if you surprise the >> computer you´d better have your HD´s in shape and they´d better be >> fast >> too. This is concurrent with most of what we´ve aired lately, relating >> it to FW400 disks and USB devices. And it always seems to work keeping >> the amount of external devices to a min. >> >> The buzz you´re talking about for me is linked to Stylus RMX. >> I haven´t had it for some time, it might be since I took the FW400 >> disk >> away. >> >> >> On 2005-01-30 at 08.07 David Gordon wrote: >> >>> >>> Unfortunately this just got worse on my system. It’s just a hassle >>> and not a >>> disaster, but now it’s more of a hassle. >>> >>> I experienced the don’t-go-to-lunch symptom tonight when I was >>> actively using >>> Logic – the buzzing sound of a very short loop, followed by a logic >>> crash. >>> >>> It happened while I was editing tracks on the arrange page, plenty >>> of disk >>> access and mouse/keyboard action going on. >>> >>> After the crash, everything was fine on re-launch. It happened >>> several >>> times. >>> Luckily I save constantly so I didn’t lose any work, though I worry >>> that one >>> day I might forget to save after an important sequence of edits or >>> performance >>> take. Once the buzzing sound starts, it’s too late to save. >>> >>> I tried restarting the mac to see if that made it more stable, but >>> this same >>> kind of crash happened after that too. Then, after a few of them, >>> everything >>> was fine for an hour at which point I shut down for the night. >>> >>> I can’t think of anything different about my current session that >>> could bring >>> this on. The plug-in and track count and number of edits loads are >>> not >>> particularly high – plenty of resources available on TDM and native. >>> No >>> warning or strange behavior before the crash, and no error message. >>> >>> Maybe this means it’s OK to go to lunch now. >>> >>> * Dave >>> -- >>> David Gordon >>> Composer/Producer >>> >>> Sequoia Records >>> Phone: 760-942-7574 >>> www.sequoiarecords.com >>> >>> >>> G4 dual 1G, 1.5G ram, HD2, FW400 audio drives, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs4, >>> L7 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/29/05 12:47 PM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I do the same routine as you Dave, opening all the drives pretty far >>>> into subfolders I haven´t looked into during the day to be sure >>>> they´re >>>> not just opening something in the cache memory. Then I do a save. >>>> >>>> I somehow get the feeling that some kind of temporary cache memory >>>> unloading during a period of inactivity causes the DGTL-thing. That >>>> when it has to reload all the samples too quickly the whole system >>>> goes >>>> bezerk. If L7 could just wait another split second it would all be >>>> fine. >>>> >>>> Anybody? >>>> >>>> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs7, L7.01 >>>> _______________________________ >>>> >>>> Erik Häusler >>>> Future Love Productions AB >>>> mob. +46 708 650 550 >>>> erik@...

It´s not really an issue for this forum, I just got this and thought it could be of interest for some of you. > I´ve heard that rescanning the au plugs may make them turn up again, > although you´d have to expect some serious transients. > I´m just trying to find out how to do the rescan. If you´re online > could you please fill me in? sure Erik, just be careful when working with dfhS however. 1) open all plugins that only appear as mono inserts 2) access the settings page of the instruments 3) DISengage the 'mono all channels' option 4) quit and rescan your AU To rescan the AU you have to go into LogicPro > Preferences > Start AU Manager than select reset and rescan. I need to insist that the above workaround is at your own risk. While the bursts of noises seem to have been experienced on instantiation of the plugin rather than in the middle of a performance or playback I cannot make the guarantee that this is the only instance where you might get a transient. Best regards, Rogue

From: Pete Thomas <logic@...> >They [ATA drives with no S] need not be wasted, you can use them >with a G5 via Firewire, just >buy a Frirewire enclosure, pop your old ATA drives in and Bob's your >uncle - useful FW backup drives. Absolutely, and they're useful frontdown drives too! There's nothing wrong with FW for recording, streaming, and all other activities. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Hey Dave, Just want to thank you for helping me solve my EXS problem. I admit I never bothered to stop for a moment and check what it does as Logic used to work in the same way it did with v. 4, 5 and 6 until upgrading to 7. Guess I'll have to take another hour to learn Digibase (or whatever it's called), is it any useful BTW :-) ? Best, Andy

I am currently running a G4-MixPlus3 with OS X 10.3.5 -ProTools Chassis and would like to know if anyone has updated their Mac to 10.3.7 and run Logic7/ProTools6.4? I am worried that once I go forward in the OS, there is not turning back easily. I cant afford to be the beta tester on this one. I know when ProTools 6.4 came out as the last update for mix owners, it only supported 10.3.5 ,is anyone seeing issues in 10.3.7 with similiar setup? Thanks in advance for any findings... Euro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

Hi, No OS specific problems here AFAICT. Best, Andy On Jan 30, 2005, at 2:26 PM, Northeast Euro Pool wrote: > > I am currently running a G4-MixPlus3 with OS X 10.3.5 > -ProTools Chassis > and would like to know if anyone has updated their Mac > to 10.3.7 and run Logic7/ProTools6.4? > I am worried that once I go forward in the OS, there > is not turning back easily. > I cant afford to be the beta tester on this one. > I know when ProTools 6.4 came out as the last update > for mix owners, it only supported 10.3.5 ,is anyone > seeing issues in 10.3.7 with similiar setup? > Thanks in advance for any findings... > Euro

I understand that Logic 7 allows for the generation of linear audio files for import into PT, etc. Does it also generate audio files that represent the software instruments? Thanks, R B Dowling, Visionsound

"benzeene2" <rbd@...> writes: >I understand that Logic 7 allows for the generation of linear >audio files for import into PT, etc. Does it also generate audio >files that represent the software instruments? Yes. All three variations work: Export..... Track as Audio File All Tracks as Audio Files Region as Audio File f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

> "benzeene2" <rbd@...> writes: >> I understand that Logic 7 allows for the generation of linear >> audio files for import into PT, etc. Does it also generate audio >> files that represent the software instruments? Am 31.01.2005 um 04:06 schrieb f-erenc szabo: > Yes. All three variations work: > > Export..... > Track as Audio File > All Tracks as Audio Files > Region as Audio File > > Wow, that's cool... now which of those four incooperates all the automation?

"benzeene2" <rbd@...> writes: >>> I understand that Logic 7 allows for the generation of linear >>> audio files for import into PT, etc. Does it also generate audio >>> files that represent the software instruments? Am 31.01.2005 um 04:06 schrieb f-erenc szabo: >> Yes. All three variations work: >> Export..... >> Track as Audio File >> All Tracks as Audio Files >> Region as Audio File newsgroups@... writes: >Wow, that's cool... >now which of those four incooperates all the automation? None. You'll have to use the Bounce To Disk method for this. You can exploit the surround bouncing to do 8 stems at a time. And if you're not using TDM or other external hardware (like synths or effects), then use the OFFLINE bounce mode for faster than realtime. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Hello Erik & all Here's some interesting news on the don't go to lunch bug... Thanks to Erik's suggestion I changed to a faster firewire drive and worked all day today without even one crash. This is still FW 400, not 800 (I'm on a G4) - but it's newer drive with better specs. Not only did it not crash while I was working today - I left logic running during both lunch and dinner as a test - and it still didn't crash! So it looks like this bug is definitely disk-related. If it returns while I'm using this newer drive, I'll report again. - Dave -- David Gordon Composer/Producer Sequoia Records Phone: 760-942-7574 www.sequoiarecords.com On 1/30/05 12:36 PM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: > > All the best of luck! > > /E > > 2005-01-30 kl. 19.31 skrev David Gordon: > >> >> That¹s a good point Erik! I'm on a dual G4 so all my external drives are >> firewire 400 - no 800 - and I keep the audio separate from sampler files, >> plus a drive for backups. I just did some tests and found out that my backup >> drive copies files much faster than the other drives. I think I¹ll move the >> audio to that drive to see if the problem goes away or at least happens less >> often. >> >> I¹ll let you know what I find out. >> >> * Dave >> >> >> >> >> On 1/30/05 4:44 AM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> Whats your hard disk status Dave? >>> >>> Don´t you get the feeling that the slowest part of your system is the >>> culprit? It works fine while up and running, but if you surprise the >>> computer you´d better have your HD´s in shape and they´d better be fast too. >>> This is concurrent with most of what we´ve aired lately, relating it to >>> FW400 disks and USB devices. And it always seems to work keeping the amount >>> of external devices to a min. >>> >>> The buzz you´re talking about for me is linked to Stylus RMX. I haven´t had >>> it for some time, it might be since I took the FW400 disk away. >>> >>> >>> On 2005-01-30 at 08.07 David Gordon wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Unfortunately this just got worse on my system. It¹s just a hassle and not >>>> a disaster, but now it¹s more of a hassle. >>>> >>>> I experienced the don¹t-go-to-lunch symptom tonight when I was actively >>>> using Logic ­ the buzzing sound of a very short loop, followed by a logic >>>> crash. >>>> >>>> It happened while I was editing tracks on the arrange page, plenty of disk >>>> access and mouse/keyboard action going on. >>>> >>>> After the crash, everything was fine on re-launch. It happened several >>>> times. Luckily I save constantly so I didn¹t lose any work, though Iworry >>>> that one day I might forget to save after an important sequence of edits or >>>> performance take. Once the buzzing sound starts, it¹s too late to save. >>>> >>>> I tried restarting the mac to see if that made it more stable, but this >>>> same kind of crash happened after that too. Then, after a few of them, >>>> everything was fine for an hour at which point I shut down for the night. >>>> >>>> I can¹t think of anything different about my current session that could >>>> bring this on. The plug-in and track count and number of edits loads are >>>> not particularly high ­ plenty of resources available on TDM and native. No >>>> warning or strange behavior before the crash, and no error message. >>>> >>>> Maybe this means it¹s OK to go to lunch now. >>>> >>>> * Dave -- David Gordon Composer/Producer >>>> >>>> Sequoia Records Phone: 760-942-7574 www.sequoiarecords.com >>>> >>>> >>>> G4 dual 1G, 1.5G ram, HD2, FW400 audio drives, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs4, >>>> L7 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/29/05 12:47 PM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I do the same routine as you Dave, opening all the drives pretty far into >>>>> subfolders I haven´t looked into during the day to be sure they´re not >>>>> just opening something in the cache memory. Then I do a save. >>>>> >>>>> I somehow get the feeling that some kind of temporary cache memory >>>>> unloading during a period of inactivity causes the DGTL-thing. That when >>>>> it has to reload all the samples too quickly the whole system goes bezerk. >>>>> If L7 could just wait another split second it would all be fine. >>>>> >>>>> Anybody? >>>>> >>>>> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs7, L7.01 >>>>> _______________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Erik Häusler >>>>> Future Love Productions AB >>>>> mob. +46 708 650 550 >>>>> erik@... > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

I use a FW800 audio drive on the DP2Ghz G5 and, after lunch breaks, the machine has to think really hard; displays a beachball for a while, harddisk starts spinning (not immediately, after a couple of seconds) and then everything works just fine. Basically, when I go to lunch, the machine is taking a little nap and just has some trouble to wake up again... This sounds like a mild form of the 'don't go to lunch bug' and it looks like using FW800 drives might be better than FW400 although I can't test it myself because I don' have a 400 drive lying around. hth, Ivo

David wrote: > Here's some interesting news on the don't go to lunch bug... Thanks to > Erik's suggestion I changed to a faster firewire drive and worked all day > today without even one crash. This is still FW 400, not 800 (I'm on a G4) - > but it's newer drive with better specs. > Hi David Would you mind telling us all what your old and new drives / enclosures were please? Ta! -- The best of times to you all... Pants

Yes! Congrats Dave. I´m actually getting over both the DGTL bug and the Stylus RMX one. When I get back I just start the song in an empty area. I get a system overload message at first, but since there´s no audio/midi there it doesn´t crash as easily. Works for me. Best /E 2005-01-31 kl. 08.29 skrev David Gordon: > > Hello Erik & all > > Here's some interesting news on the don't go to lunch bug... Thanks to > Erik's suggestion I changed to a faster firewire drive and worked all > day > today without even one crash. This is still FW 400, not 800 (I'm on a > G4) - > but it's newer drive with better specs. > > Not only did it not crash while I was working today - I left logic > running > during both lunch and dinner as a test - and it still didn't crash! > > So it looks like this bug is definitely disk-related. If it returns > while > I'm using this newer drive, I'll report again. > > - Dave > > > -- > David Gordon > Composer/Producer > > Sequoia Records > Phone: 760-942-7574 > www.sequoiarecords.com > > > > > On 1/30/05 12:36 PM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: > >> >> All the best of luck! >> >> /E >> >> 2005-01-30 kl. 19.31 skrev David Gordon: >> >>> >>> That’s a good point Erik! I'm on a dual G4 so all my external >>> drives are >>> firewire 400 - no 800 - and I keep the audio separate from sampler >>> files, >>> plus a drive for backups. I just did some tests and found out that >>> my backup >>> drive copies files much faster than the other drives. I think I’ll >>> move the >>> audio to that drive to see if the problem goes away or at least >>> happens less >>> often. >>> >>> I’ll let you know what I find out. >>> >>> * Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/30/05 4:44 AM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Whats your hard disk status Dave? >>>> >>>> Don´t you get the feeling that the slowest part of your system is >>>> the >>>> culprit? It works fine while up and running, but if you surprise the >>>> computer you´d better have your HD´s in shape and they´d better be >>>> fast too. >>>> This is concurrent with most of what we´ve aired lately, relating >>>> it to >>>> FW400 disks and USB devices. And it always seems to work keeping >>>> the amount >>>> of external devices to a min. >>>> >>>> The buzz you´re talking about for me is linked to Stylus RMX. I >>>> haven´t had >>>> it for some time, it might be since I took the FW400 disk away. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2005-01-30 at 08.07 David Gordon wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately this just got worse on my system. It’s just a >>>>> hassle and not >>>>> a disaster, but now it’s more of a hassle. >>>>> >>>>> I experienced the don’t-go-to-lunch symptom tonight when I was >>>>> actively >>>>> using Logic – the buzzing sound of a very short loop, followed by >>>>> a logic >>>>> crash. >>>>> >>>>> It happened while I was editing tracks on the arrange page, plenty >>>>> of disk >>>>> access and mouse/keyboard action going on. >>>>> >>>>> After the crash, everything was fine on re-launch. It happened >>>>> several >>>>> times. Luckily I save constantly so I didn’t lose any work, though >>>>> I worry >>>>> that one day I might forget to save after an important sequence of >>>>> edits or >>>>> performance take. Once the buzzing sound starts, it’s too late to >>>>> save. >>>>> >>>>> I tried restarting the mac to see if that made it more stable, but >>>>> this >>>>> same kind of crash happened after that too. Then, after a few of >>>>> them, >>>>> everything was fine for an hour at which point I shut down for the >>>>> night. >>>>> >>>>> I can’t think of anything different about my current session that >>>>> could >>>>> bring this on. The plug-in and track count and number of edits >>>>> loads are >>>>> not particularly high – plenty of resources available on TDM and >>>>> native. No >>>>> warning or strange behavior before the crash, and no error message. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe this means it’s OK to go to lunch now. >>>>> >>>>> * Dave -- David Gordon Composer/Producer >>>>> >>>>> Sequoia Records Phone: 760-942-7574 www.sequoiarecords.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> G4 dual 1G, 1.5G ram, HD2, FW400 audio drives, OSX 10.3.7, PT >>>>> 6.7cs4, >>>>> L7 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/29/05 12:47 PM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I do the same routine as you Dave, opening all the drives pretty >>>>>> far into >>>>>> subfolders I haven´t looked into during the day to be sure >>>>>> they´re not >>>>>> just opening something in the cache memory. Then I do a save. >>>>>> >>>>>> I somehow get the feeling that some kind of temporary cache memory >>>>>> unloading during a period of inactivity causes the DGTL-thing. >>>>>> That when >>>>>> it has to reload all the samples too quickly the whole system >>>>>> goes bezerk. >>>>>> If L7 could just wait another split second it would all be fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anybody? >>>>>> >>>>>> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs7, L7.01 >>>>>> _______________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Erik Häusler >>>>>> Future Love Productions AB >>>>>> mob. +46 708 650 550 >>>>>> erik@... >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

Hy Erik & Dave, Same here, i just let the marker run over an empty area, say ok to the warning and I'm back. The FW/Disc thing does not seem to matter here though, I disconnected FW as a test, running only SATA, got the same result. /Erik > > Yes! Congrats Dave. > > I´m actually getting over both the DGTL bug and the Stylus RMX one. > When I get back I just start the song in an empty area. I get a system > overload message at first, but since there´s no audio/midi there it > doesn´t crash as easily. Works for me. > > Best > > /E > > 2005-01-31 kl. 08.29 skrev David Gordon: > >> >> Hello Erik & all >> >> Here's some interesting news on the don't go to lunch bug... Thanks to >> Erik's suggestion I changed to a faster firewire drive and worked all >> day >> today without even one crash. This is still FW 400, not 800 (I'm on a >> G4) - >> but it's newer drive with better specs. >> >> Not only did it not crash while I was working today - I left logic >> running >> during both lunch and dinner as a test - and it still didn't crash! >> >> So it looks like this bug is definitely disk-related. If it returns >> while >> I'm using this newer drive, I'll report again. >> >> - Dave >> >> >> -- >> David Gordon >> Composer/Producer >> >> Sequoia Records >> Phone: 760-942-7574 >> www.sequoiarecords.com >> >> >> >> >> On 1/30/05 12:36 PM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> All the best of luck! >>> >>> /E >>> >>> 2005-01-30 kl. 19.31 skrev David Gordon: >>> >>>> >>>> That¹s a good point Erik! I'm on a dual G4 so all my external >>>> drives are >>>> firewire 400 - no 800 - and I keep the audio separate from sampler >>>> files, >>>> plus a drive for backups. I just did some tests and found out that >>>> my backup >>>> drive copies files much faster than the other drives. I think I¹ll >>>> move the >>>> audio to that drive to see if the problem goes away or at least >>>> happens less >>>> often. >>>> >>>> I¹ll let you know what I find out. >>>> >>>> * Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/30/05 4:44 AM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Whats your hard disk status Dave? >>>>> >>>>> Don´t you get the feeling that the slowest part of your system is >>>>> the >>>>> culprit? It works fine while up and running, but if you surprise the >>>>> computer you´d better have your HD´s in shape and they´d betterbe >>>>> fast too. >>>>> This is concurrent with most of what we´ve aired lately, relating >>>>> it to >>>>> FW400 disks and USB devices. And it always seems to work keeping >>>>> the amount >>>>> of external devices to a min. >>>>> >>>>> The buzz you´re talking about for me is linked to Stylus RMX. I >>>>> haven´t had >>>>> it for some time, it might be since I took the FW400 disk away. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2005-01-30 at 08.07 David Gordon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately this just got worse on my system. It¹s just a >>>>>> hassle and not >>>>>> a disaster, but now it¹s more of a hassle. >>>>>> >>>>>> I experienced the don¹t-go-to-lunch symptom tonight when I was >>>>>> actively >>>>>> using Logic ­ the buzzing sound of a very short loop, followed by >>>>>> a logic >>>>>> crash. >>>>>> >>>>>> It happened while I was editing tracks on the arrange page, plenty >>>>>> of disk >>>>>> access and mouse/keyboard action going on. >>>>>> >>>>>> After the crash, everything was fine on re-launch. It happened >>>>>> several >>>>>> times. Luckily I save constantly so I didn¹t lose any work, though >>>>>> I worry >>>>>> that one day I might forget to save after an important sequence of >>>>>> edits or >>>>>> performance take. Once the buzzing sound starts, it¹s too late to >>>>>> save. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried restarting the mac to see if that made it more stable, but >>>>>> this >>>>>> same kind of crash happened after that too. Then, after a few of >>>>>> them, >>>>>> everything was fine for an hour at which point I shut down for the >>>>>> night. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can¹t think of anything different about my current session that >>>>>> could >>>>>> bring this on. The plug-in and track count and number of edits >>>>>> loads are >>>>>> not particularly high ­ plenty of resources available on TDM and >>>>>> native. No >>>>>> warning or strange behavior before the crash, and no error message. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe this means it¹s OK to go to lunch now. >>>>>> >>>>>> * Dave -- David Gordon Composer/Producer >>>>>> >>>>>> Sequoia Records Phone: 760-942-7574 www.sequoiarecords.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> G4 dual 1G, 1.5G ram, HD2, FW400 audio drives, OSX 10.3.7, PT >>>>>> 6.7cs4, >>>>>> L7 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/29/05 12:47 PM, "Erik Häusler" <erik@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do the same routine as you Dave, opening all the drives pretty >>>>>>> far into >>>>>>> subfolders I haven´t looked into during the day to be sure >>>>>>> they´re not >>>>>>> just opening something in the cache memory. Then I do a save. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I somehow get the feeling that some kind of temporary cache memory >>>>>>> unloading during a period of inactivity causes the DGTL-thing. >>>>>>> That when >>>>>>> it has to reload all the samples too quickly the whole system >>>>>>> goes bezerk. >>>>>>> If L7 could just wait another split second it would all be fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anybody? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> G5 2x1,8, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.3.7, PT 6.7cs7, L7.01 >>>>>>> _______________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Erik Häusler >>>>>>> Future Love Productions AB >>>>>>> mob. +46 708 650 550 >>>>>>> erik@... >>> >>> >>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >>> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! 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The are both La Cie. The old one is 120G from two years ago, 7200 rpm with a blue front. The new one I got six months ago, the La Cie 250G dual firewire 400/800. * Dave On 1/31/05 1:17 AM, "Pants" <moisie@...> wrote: > > David wrote: > >> > Here's some interesting news on the don't go to lunch bug... Thanks to >> > Erik's suggestion I changed to a faster firewire drive and worked all day >> > today without even one crash. This is still FW 400, not 800 (I'm on a G4) - >> > but it's newer drive with better specs. >> > > > > Hi David > > Would you mind telling us all what your old and new drives / enclosures were > please? > > Ta!

Hello listmembers. I have about 50gb's of samples for exs24 in my G4/mix system... I'm about to set up a powerbook g4 with a 002r. I was planning to use this powerbook with logic express 7. I wonder If there is a way for me to share the samples over the local network?... Anyone doing this?. I've also looked into getting (my first) external firewire HD. Is it possible to have the drive connected to both machines at the same time?... If not, will hotswapping work ok?... I can live with swapping cables although this will push some stress when working. Regards. HFK.