Hi Guys, What would be the equivalent of an Sync I/O for an "old" TDM setup, if I would want to sync ProTools via SMPTE? I am thinking about keeping my old G4 Dual 1Ghz running Pro Tools TDM under OS9 and getting a new G5 for the native part/CoreAudio. The actual setup of Logic & ProTools is far from stellar right now... TIA, Louis Am 28.12.2004 um 15:50 schrieb Lee Blaske: > >> I'm going to try and borrow a Sync IO and see if striping SMPTE onto >> a Logic >> track and locking ProTools to that yields better results. >> >> If anyone had any suggestions of the best way to do this, I'd be >> extremely >> grateful. > > If you do it that way, obviously PT will be chasing Logic. In such a > situation, you just might want to experiment with not having the > Logic machine's word clock hooked up to the same source as the Sync > i/o and PT rig (i.e. free floating). With that kind of set-up (with > SMPTE striping recorded on a Logic track), your PT rig should chase > the Logic rig as well as PT would chase an analog 24 track. > > Lee Blaske > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

From: "Jules Bromley" <jules@...> > Hi Simon > > I agree with you. I think there is a combination of ProTools being > less > geared up for sample accurate sync to MTC (if that's even possible) > and some > inherent timing discrepancies with MIDI per se. You certainly won't get sample-accurate sync this way unless you have something like the Sync I/O, no question, whether you're using SMPTE or MTC. All timecode does is tell the receiving device where to start, and there's going to be between 2 and 7mS of slop (according to some tests I ran a few years ago). By its nature, timecode isn't sample-accurate. A Digidesign ADAT Bridge should theoretically work, since the ADAT format can count samples down its 9-pin cable (that's how ADATs are able to lock together, and how MOTU is able to transfer from ADATs into DP through its hardware with sample accuracy). > I feel if sync' is taken > away from the MIDI protocol, which is known to suffer delays for a > variety > of reasons, timing might improve. I'm also hoping that it will solve > the > problem whereby ProTools' ability to process incoming MIDI notes > suffers, > when it is also having to deal with incoming MTC (even if they use > separate > interfaces). > > I'm going to try and borrow a Sync IO and see if striping SMPTE onto a > Logic > track and locking ProTools to that yields better results. > > If anyone had any suggestions of the best way to do this, I'd be > extremely > grateful. > > Thanks to one and all. > > Jules > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Simon Changer [mailto:s.changer@...] >> Sent: 23 December 2004 20:38 >> To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: RE: Slave ProTools to Logic - >> separate machines >> >> >> In my experience this kind of set up never seems to maintain >> consistent results. I have tried this on a few occasions. The >> first time was with a Digi001 and a MOTU 828 and an MT4. The >> Digi001 was master and the computers were sync'd using ADAT >> and timecode was sent from Digi001 to the MT4. >> Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

Hi Nick, How is it then that two ProTools systems locked together via word clock or ADAT or whatever sample lock you want remain locked together and the sync never varies no matter how many times you stop and start? In my experience this is usually done with word clock cables and LTC between the two systems (one acting as master and the other slave) and never has the same problems I have experienced using MTC between a Logic and ProTools system (that are word-locked together where the MTC is simply providing positional information). And surely LTC can be resolved to a word clock or any other source otherwise what is the point of the Sync I/O or MTP/AV or any sync device? Hope this clarifies a few things.. Simon On 28 Dec 2004, at 21:22, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > > From: "Jules Bromley" <jules@...> > >> Hi Simon >> >> I agree with you. I think there is a combination of ProTools being >> less >> geared up for sample accurate sync to MTC (if that's even possible) >> and some >> inherent timing discrepancies with MIDI per se. > > You certainly won't get sample-accurate sync this way unless you have > something like the Sync I/O, no question, whether you're using SMPTE or > MTC. All timecode does is tell the receiving device where to start, and > there's going to be between 2 and 7mS of slop (according to some tests > I ran a few years ago). By its nature, timecode isn't sample-accurate. > > A Digidesign ADAT Bridge should theoretically work, since the ADAT > format can count samples down its 9-pin cable (that's how ADATs are > able to lock together, and how MOTU is able to transfer from ADATs into > DP through its hardware with sample accuracy). > > >> I feel if sync' is taken >> away from the MIDI protocol, which is known to suffer delays for a >> variety >> of reasons, timing might improve. I'm also hoping that it will solve >> the >> problem whereby ProTools' ability to process incoming MIDI notes >> suffers, >> when it is also having to deal with incoming MTC (even if they use >> separate >> interfaces). >> >> I'm going to try and borrow a Sync IO and see if striping SMPTE onto a >> Logic >> track and locking ProTools to that yields better results. >> >> If anyone had any suggestions of the best way to do this, I'd be >> extremely >> grateful. >> >> Thanks to one and all. >> >> Jules >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Simon Changer [mailto:s.changer@...] >>> Sent: 23 December 2004 20:38 >>> To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: RE: Slave ProTools to Logic - >>> separate machines >>> >>> >>> In my experience this kind of set up never seems to maintain >>> consistent results. I have tried this on a few occasions. The >>> first time was with a Digi001 and a MOTU 828 and an MT4. The >>> Digi001 was master and the computers were sync'd using ADAT >>> and timecode was sent from Digi001 to the MT4. >>> > Nick Batzdorf > 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101 > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > 512k Broadband £14.99 per month Unlimited Downloads - No extra Costs £14.99 per month (inc. VAT) Order Now www.adsl4less.com

Today I got my hd accel 2 and installed it I upgraded from mix 2 keeping one of the 888 to use on the legacy port on my 192? Problem is pt/logic cant c it in digihardware setup. Any ideas? Second question, how many dsp chips does hd accel 2 translate to in logic setup? Best Markus enochson Also. Anyone know of the maximuim length of the digital dsub cable to use the dsub out on the 192?

Hi Lee > >I'm going to try and borrow a Sync IO and see if striping > SMPTE onto a > >Logic track and locking ProTools to that yields better results. > > > >If anyone had any suggestions of the best way to do this, I'd be > >extremely grateful. > > If you do it that way, obviously PT will be chasing Logic. In > such a situation, you just might want to experiment with not > having the Logic machine's word clock hooked up to the same > source as the Sync i/o and PT rig (i.e. free floating). With > that kind of set-up (with SMPTE striping recorded on a Logic > track), your PT rig should chase the Logic rig as well as PT > would chase an analog 24 track. Thanks, that kind of makes sense - I'll confess that the interrelationship between wordclock sync' and positional sync' is taxing my brain a little, but I see that getting it right is important. To be honest, at this stage all I really want to know is: what setup would allow me to achieve the "near sample-accurate" sync' to timecode, which Digidesign market in the Sync IO description? If it means I have to rejig things wordclock-wise, or acquire additional hardware, then I'll have to bite the bullet. I just need the best possible sync' for two separate systems. Thanks again for your help. Jules

Hi Simon : Are you positive that two PT will sync sample accurate with LTC and WC or I missunderstood You ? . I sync Logic with PT all the time that way and never get consistent results ( +/-7ms ). I do it for transfering tracks , and what I found as a workaround is to send a single click at the beginning of each pass and then align them mannually. happy new year --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Simon Changer <s.changer@b...> wrote: > Hi Nick, > > How is it then that two ProTools systems locked together via word clock > or ADAT or whatever sample lock you want remain locked together and the > sync never varies no matter how many times you stop and start? In my > experience this is usually done with word clock cables and LTC between > the two systems (one acting as master and the other slave) and never > has the same problems I have experienced using MTC between a Logic and > ProTools system (that are word-locked together where the MTC is simply > providing positional information). > > And surely LTC can be resolved to a word clock or any other source > otherwise what is the point of the Sync I/O or MTP/AV or any sync > device? > > Hope this clarifies a few things.. > > Simon > > > On 28 Dec 2004, at 21:22, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > > > > > From: "Jules Bromley" <jules@t...> > > > >> Hi Simon > >> > >> I agree with you. I think there is a combination of ProTools being > >> less > >> geared up for sample accurate sync to MTC (if that's even possible) > >> and some > >> inherent timing discrepancies with MIDI per se. > > > > You certainly won't get sample-accurate sync this way unless you have > > something like the Sync I/O, no question, whether you're using SMPTE or > > MTC. All timecode does is tell the receiving device where to start, and > > there's going to be between 2 and 7mS of slop (according to some tests > > I ran a few years ago). By its nature, timecode isn't sample- accurate. > > > > A Digidesign ADAT Bridge should theoretically work, since the ADAT > > format can count samples down its 9-pin cable (that's how ADATs are > > able to lock together, and how MOTU is able to transfer from ADATs into > > DP through its hardware with sample accuracy). > > > > > >> I feel if sync' is taken > >> away from the MIDI protocol, which is known to suffer delays for a > >> variety > >> of reasons, timing might improve. I'm also hoping that it will solve > >> the > >> problem whereby ProTools' ability to process incoming MIDI notes > >> suffers, > >> when it is also having to deal with incoming MTC (even if they use > >> separate > >> interfaces). > >> > >> I'm going to try and borrow a Sync IO and see if striping SMPTE onto a > >> Logic > >> track and locking ProTools to that yields better results. > >> > >> If anyone had any suggestions of the best way to do this, I'd be > >> extremely > >> grateful. > >> > >> Thanks to one and all. > >> > >> Jules > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Simon Changer [mailto:s.changer@b...] > >>> Sent: 23 December 2004 20:38 > >>> To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: RE: Slave ProTools to Logic - > >>> separate machines > >>> > >>> > >>> In my experience this kind of set up never seems to maintain > >>> consistent results. I have tried this on a few occasions. The > >>> first time was with a Digi001 and a MOTU 828 and an MT4. The > >>> Digi001 was master and the computers were sync'd using ADAT > >>> and timecode was sent from Digi001 to the MT4. > >>> > > Nick Batzdorf > > 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101 > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 512k Broadband £14.99 per month > Unlimited Downloads - No extra Costs > £14.99 per month (inc. VAT) > Order Now www.adsl4less.com

Hi Simon So are you saying LTC will give the best timing accuracy for positional sync'? And that in order to run the systems this way, I should also wordclock slave the ProTools system to the Logic rig - or can they both run with wordclock from the same central source? Sorry to be pedantic - I'm just trying to pin down the specifics of what setup is likely to offer the most accurate positional sync' and will then adapt the wordclock side of things if necessary. Thanks again for your help. Jules > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Changer [mailto:s.changer@...] > Sent: 29 December 2004 10:28 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Slave ProTools to Logic - separate machines > > > Hi Nick, > > How is it then that two ProTools systems locked together via > word clock or ADAT or whatever sample lock you want remain > locked together and the sync never varies no matter how many > times you stop and start? In my experience this is usually > done with word clock cables and LTC between the two systems > (one acting as master and the other slave) and never has the > same problems I have experienced using MTC between a Logic > and ProTools system (that are word-locked together where the > MTC is simply providing positional information). > > And surely LTC can be resolved to a word clock or any other > source otherwise what is the point of the Sync I/O or MTP/AV > or any sync device? > > Hope this clarifies a few things.. > > Simon > > > On 28 Dec 2004, at 21:22, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > > > > > From: "Jules Bromley" <jules@...> > > > >> Hi Simon > >> > >> I agree with you. I think there is a combination of > ProTools being > >> less geared up for sample accurate sync to MTC (if that's even > >> possible) and some inherent timing discrepancies with MIDI per se. > > > > You certainly won't get sample-accurate sync this way > unless you have > > something like the Sync I/O, no question, whether you're > using SMPTE > > or MTC. All timecode does is tell the receiving device > where to start, > > and there's going to be between 2 and 7mS of slop > (according to some > > tests I ran a few years ago). By its nature, timecode isn't > sample-accurate. > > > > A Digidesign ADAT Bridge should theoretically work, since the ADAT > > format can count samples down its 9-pin cable (that's how ADATs are > > able to lock together, and how MOTU is able to transfer from ADATs > > into DP through its hardware with sample accuracy). > > > > > >> I feel if sync' is taken > >> away from the MIDI protocol, which is known to suffer delays for a > >> variety of reasons, timing might improve. I'm also hoping that it > >> will solve the problem whereby ProTools' ability to > process incoming > >> MIDI notes suffers, when it is also having to deal with > incoming MTC > >> (even if they use separate interfaces). > >> > >> I'm going to try and borrow a Sync IO and see if striping > SMPTE onto > >> a Logic track and locking ProTools to that yields better results. > >> > >> If anyone had any suggestions of the best way to do this, I'd be > >> extremely grateful. > >> > >> Thanks to one and all. > >> > >> Jules > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Simon Changer [mailto:s.changer@...] > >>> Sent: 23 December 2004 20:38 > >>> To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: RE: Slave ProTools to Logic - separate > >>> machines > >>> > >>> > >>> In my experience this kind of set up never seems to maintain > >>> consistent results. I have tried this on a few occasions. > The first > >>> time was with a Digi001 and a MOTU 828 and an MT4. The > >>> Digi001 was master and the computers were sync'd using ADAT and > >>> timecode was sent from Digi001 to the MT4. > >>> > > Nick Batzdorf > > 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101 > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 512k Broadband #14.99 per month > Unlimited Downloads - No extra Costs > #14.99 per month (inc. VAT) > Order Now www.adsl4less.com > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

Hi Nick > You certainly won't get sample-accurate sync this way unless > you have something like the Sync I/O, no question, whether > you're using SMPTE or MTC. All timecode does is tell the > receiving device where to start, and there's going to be > between 2 and 7mS of slop (according to some tests I ran a > few years ago). By its nature, timecode isn't sample-accurate. I'm sure you're right, but Digidesign specify "near sample-accurate lock to Timecode" for the Sync IO. I was assuming that none-MIDI timecode must therefore be capable of greater accuracy than MTC offers. All I need to know at this stage is what setup is going to offer the accuracy that's being marketed? > A Digidesign ADAT Bridge should theoretically work, since the > ADAT format can count samples down its 9-pin cable (that's > how ADATs are able to lock together, and how MOTU is able to > transfer from ADATs into DP through its hardware with sample > accuracy). That's a separate piece of hardware right? I guess I assumed that a Sync IO and whatever additional hardware I might need for the Logic rig would afford me a pro level of sync' accuracy. I guess more research is needed. Thanks again for your help. Jules Bromley

BTW: Does anybody knows if Logic supports 9pin sync ? In LAW5.5 not as far as I know.. maybe in 6, 7 or next incarnation...

From: Simon Changer <s.changer@...> >Hi Nick, > >How is it then that two ProTools systems locked together via word clock >or ADAT or whatever sample lock you want remain locked together and the >sync never varies no matter how many times you stop and start? I don't have an answer for that, and I'm certainly not disputing it (although I will say that the two can *only* be locked to the exact same position ["sample-accurate"] unless something has a way of counting samples). What I am saying is that in principle, MTC and LTC work equally well. One would think that since LTC has 80 messages per frame vs. four in MTC, it would have to be 20X more accurate. But the receiving device knows where it is when it gets the second MTC message. >In my >experience this is usually done with word clock cables and LTC between >the two systems (one acting as master and the other slave) and never >has the same problems I have experienced using MTC between a Logic and >ProTools system (that are word-locked together where the MTC is simply >providing positional information). That would have to do with the device you're using to convert LTC to MTC, and possibly one or both programs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm 99% certain that all Mac programs ultimately use MTC anyway - i.e. that's what the sync box sends to the Mac over USB or whatever. But you're writing from experience, and I readily admit that I'm just talking out my rear end. I have a lot of experience locking Pro Tools (TDM and 001) to tape through various devices, but I've only locked Pro Tools and Logic on the same machine. >And surely LTC can be resolved to a word clock or any other source >otherwise what is the point of the Sync I/O or MTP/AV or any sync >device? Yes, although it's usually the other way around: those boxes put out a variable word clock in response to incoming LTC or whatever from a tape machine (usually). -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Is there any way to play a General Midi file in Logic 7? thanks Don

Sorry! i forgot the rest and most important part of my question! Is there a way to play a general midi file in logic 7 using all soft synths/samplers WITHOUT having to manually go through and put it all together? I'm looking for a software solution similar to using say, a roland Sound Canvas or the like. thanks again Don ] On Dec 30, 2004, at 5:25 PM, DMR wrote: > Is there any way to play a General Midi file in Logic 7? > thanks > Don

On 31/12/2004, at 12:12 AM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Today I got my hd accel 2 and installed it > > I upgraded from mix 2 keeping one of the 888 to use on the legacy port > on my > 192? > > Problem is pt/logic cant c it in digihardware setup. Any ideas? > > Second question, how many dsp chips does hd accel 2 translate to in > logic > setup? > > Best > > Markus enochson > > Also. Anyone know of the maximuim length of the digital dsub cable to > use > the dsub out on the 192? > I never got this working with my Accel 2 system. I am using an old 882/20 on the legacy port. It never shows up in Logic like it does in PTools. Phil Buckle.

Hi Marcus! I also have an old 888 connected to the legacy port. I had some trouble in the beginning until I found out that every time you turn on your system, be sure to let the 888 run it's startup procedure BEFORE you start your computer. If not, you'll have problems. Otherwise, go to hardware setup, there you'll find a choice of interfaces to use on your legacy port (be sure to check the legacy port, it defaults to the expansion port), choose the 888, configure it and you'll be fine. Get back if you still have problems, I'll try to help. Cheers alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, markus enochson <markus.enochson@a...> wrote: > Today I got my hd accel 2 and installed it > > I upgraded from mix 2 keeping one of the 888 to use on the legacy port on my > 192? > > Problem is pt/logic cant c it in digihardware setup. Any ideas? > > Second question, how many dsp chips does hd accel 2 translate to in logic > setup? > > Best > > Markus enochson > > Also. Anyone know of the maximuim length of the digital dsub cable to use > the dsub out on the 192?

I am using a 1622 on the legacy port of the 192 with HD2 ­ it shows up in Logic. I also find it is necessary to start the 1622 & 192 first and then the computer to make sure they all work together well. I think that is stated on the Digi site too. * Dave On 12/30/04 4:05 PM, "strut53" <allarts@...> wrote: > > > Hi Marcus! > I also have an old 888 connected to the legacy port. I had some trouble in > the beginning until I found out that every time you turn on > your system, be sure to let the 888 run it's startup procedure > BEFORE you start your computer. If not, you'll have problems. > Otherwise, go to hardware setup, there you'll find a choice > of interfaces to use on your legacy port (be sure to check the > legacy port, it defaults to the expansion port), choose > the 888, configure it and you'll be fine. > Get back if you still have problems, I'll try to help. > > Cheers > alar > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, markus enochson <markus.enochson@a...> > wrote: >> > Today I got my hd accel 2 and installed it >> > >> > I upgraded from mix 2 keeping one of the 888 to use on the legacy porton >> my >> > 192? >> > >> > Problem is pt/logic cant c it in digihardware setup. Any ideas? >> > >> > Second question, how many dsp chips does hd accel 2 translate to in logic >> > setup? >> > >> > Best >> > >> > Markus enochson >> > >> > Also. Anyone know of the maximuim length of the digital dsub cable to use >> > the dsub out on the 192? > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

>> >> Problem is pt/logic cant c it in digihardware setup. Any ideas? I had a problem with neither ProTools nor Logic seeing my AD-8000 (similar to 888) on the legacy port of my 192 IO. Turned out to be the cable connecting the two - there was some tension on it. Once I'd moved the units so they were closer together, and made sure the cables were fitting snugly, everything was fine. Just a thought. Ian ------------------------------ Ian G. Morris - Tonewright ian@... www.igmusic.co.nz

Hi guys I acctaullay got it to work by one, starting up the 888 before and also make sure to use the 256 times oversamling clock output. (remember also to mark to use the legacy port on the 192 instead of the expansion port) But. (and we knew there was gonna be a but) When I start up and old arrangement with the 888 using the legacy and the 192 as main all my esb stuff does not work. I can still route audio to all the outputs on both the 192 and the 888. Bug? Or anyone else experiancing the same I should let u all know tha I'm using an old 867 g4 so this could be the culprit but I don¹t acctaully think so since it running so smooth other wise. Acctually the system runs more smooth now since I upgraded pt that before. What u think. Also, how many dsps does hd accel 2 translate to in logic??? Best and happy new year Markus. Den 04-12-31 01.28, skrev "David Gordon" <music-pro@...>: > > I am using a 1622 on the legacy port of the 192 with HD2 ­ it shows up in > Logic. > > I also find it is necessary to start the 1622 & 192 first and then the > computer to make sure they all work together well. I think that is stated > on the Digi site too. > > * Dave > > > > > On 12/30/04 4:05 PM, "strut53" <allarts@...> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi Marcus! >> I also have an old 888 connected to the legacy port. I had some trouble in >> the beginning until I found out that every time you turn on >> your system, be sure to let the 888 run it's startup procedure >> BEFORE you start your computer. If not, you'll have problems. >> Otherwise, go to hardware setup, there you'll find a choice >> of interfaces to use on your legacy port (be sure to check the >> legacy port, it defaults to the expansion port), choose >> the 888, configure it and you'll be fine. >> Get back if you still have problems, I'll try to help. >> >> Cheers >> alar >> >> --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, markus enochson <markus.enochson@a...> >> wrote: >>>> Today I got my hd accel 2 and installed it >>>> >>>> I upgraded from mix 2 keeping one of the 888 to use on the legacy porton >>> my >>>> 192? >>>> >>>> Problem is pt/logic cant c it in digihardware setup. Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Second question, how many dsp chips does hd accel 2 translate to in logic >>>> setup? >>>> >>>> Best >>>> >>>> Markus enochson >>>> >>>> Also. Anyone know of the maximuim length of the digital dsub cable to use >>>> the dsub out on the 192? >> >> >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Can someone explain to me how to setup for multi part VIs?

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"jjajjangman" <jjajjangman@...> writes: >Can someone explain to me how to setup for multi part VIs? This list is for TDM hardware users. You'll find lots of existing responses to your question at the regular logic-users groups also at yahoogroups.com. The basic premise is the create the same AudioInstrument more than once in the Environment, each one set to a different MIDI channel. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

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Can one use Guitar amp pro with TDM, or does it only function with core audio. If it does work... how? Happy New Year Jake Holmes

Hi, for those familiar with the Logic Pro 7 TDM Guide - are the terms 'Core audio' and 'Native' interchangable? cheers peter

If you´re using an additional audio interface/card with core audio drivers: yes. If you´re using DTDM/ESB then DTDM is your native side. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Am 02.01.2005 um 17:34 schrieb peterlemer: > Hi, for those familiar with the Logic Pro 7 TDM Guide - are the terms > 'Core audio' and > 'Native' interchangable?

"peterlemer" <plemer@...> writes: > are the terms 'Core audio' and 'Native' interchangable? All CoreAudio drivers are Native (use the Mac's CPU) but not all Native audio uses the CoreAudio driver. For example, with DAE, one might be using the DTDM driver for the native stuff. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>