Hi folks. I use guitar Rig on a PT HD system and it is crap when using Logic as the front end, but i use it nonetheless. Running Protools software also and it works fine in that environment. Anyhow, in logic native-mode it has always been fine. WEEEEELLLL, I don't know which update happened first or if either are even relevant, but sometime in the last couple of weeks I went to 1.2 on Guitar Rig and 10.3.7 on my G4 aluminum laptop and now guitar rig will not pass audio. It sees audio coming in (the input meters move about) but no output. This behavior is the same whether I use it in RTAS mode in Protools LEw/mbox or with Logic (with or w/out mbox) or just in stand alone mode. Like I said, it was working fine on the TDM system, it's just on the laptop that I have this behavior. Anyone else getting this? Thanks.

> > Of course, it came with it's own set of new bugs and problematic > features. > Among the most annoying: the "Don' Go To Lunch" phenomena. If I leave > Logic > not playing for an hour, playback is freezing on a very short loop, > sounding > like digital feedback. Sollution: reboot Logic, Workaround: If You have > space before your song starts, bring your cursor to bar 1, press play, > wait > for the warning signal, Ok that, stop and play again... I also have " Don't Go to lunch "Syndrome I get the "system Overload" prompt sometimes distortion, sometimes I can just close the prompt and start again. However in my case at odd times the prompt returns and I lose all sound from the virtual instruments. For me L7 isn't that stable. I have to reboot one or two times per session I'm running G5 dual 2 GHz 2.5 Gig DDR OS10.3.7 (THe problem existed with 10.6) Using ESB Plugins:BFD Absynth2 Zebra Trilogy RMX Battery Guitar rig albino CA5000 Mach5 All these plug ins are good to go with Au manager. I suspect RMX and BFD might be the culprits,L7 is least stable when running these guys. any ideas that might make me more stable would be most welcome.

to all you in need of the HTDM enabler: http://www.emagic.de/support/download/index.php?langÞ; Download bothe v. 1.1 & 1.2 and it should run;-) Only you need to authorize your XS key!!! 25 Ghosts --- gedgrimes <ged@...> wrote: > > > Tis an OSX version Of Host TDM Peter but thanks. Im > still > dithering over whether to upgrade to Logic 7 on OSX > at this time. > Id rather get my existing system running > smoothly.... > Cheers > Ged > > Jack's Hoose Music > SCotland > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Peter Duemmler > <merlin@m...> wrote: > > Try this link: > > > > ftp://ftp.apple.com/emagic/Host_TDM.dmg.gz > > > > But this might be the OSX version... > > > > Peter > > --- > > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > > Am 22.12.2004 um 16:41 schrieb gedgrimes: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there > > > Still struggling to get this to function. I have > the demo > authorised > > > in my XS key manager but I need to find the URL > for Host > TRM > > > enabler Version 1. I have tried installing Ver > 1.1 off the > emagic > > > site but I need Ver 1 installed first. > > > Any ideas if this download is still > available....? > > > Cheers > > > Ged > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to > contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Rabitsch <thomas@r...> wrote: > Hello Philippe, > > You´re definitively not alone.... I have almost the same setup. > HD3 works fine, without any troubles. > Logic 6.4 crashes all the time in conjunction with DAE. > When i use core audio with RME, Logic is more stabile, but still.... > My solution under these circumstances is: > Composing, layouts, virtual instruments in Logic ONLY with core audio. > Then get ready for mixing: > Bounce and freeze everything, switch to ProTools and mix it there.... > Sounds little complicated, costs of course more time in the studio, but > works. This is the kind of feedback that completely scares me and I continue to bebaffled by the fact that my "out of date" OS 9 Rig with Logic 6 and PT Mix3 runs like a dream with DAE and Native at the same time. There's no way that I could work by running one engine at a time and "switching to mix mode" after I'm done. In my work I need to run mixes as I'm working and sometimes I never even need to render VI tracks. Creating and mixing needsto be a simultaneous process. When PT is involved that means someone else is mixing it, and it that case, I run stripes of everything. Isn't there anyone that IS running Logic 7 with DAE and Native simultaneously using PT HD hardware, that can give feedback based on their personal expeiences instead of speculation (based on Logic 6 use) or the experience of others?...Particularly and positive experiences?? Thanks!

> >Both systems are Wordclock locked to an external Rosendahl Nanosync's, so >>Wordclock is not an issue in this case - I just need to improve the >>synchronization side of things. From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...> >I've never done this sort of synchronization before, but I don't >think you're going to be able to do what you want to do with the >equipment you're using while using Unitors. You need some type of >synchronization device that resolves the time code to the audio >clock. I don't think a Unitor is adequate for that (even if both daw >machines are plugged into the same word clock). Unitors are really >only for MIDI. As long as they're clocked together, it should work with any MIDI interface. You don't even need anything as sophisticated as a Unitor. The essence of synchronization is that you need two things: timing (speed) and address (location). The slave machine simply runs relative to the speed of the word clock at the MTC location sent from the master. Hopefully you're also sending MIDI Machine Control to operate the slave's transport. All a synchronization device does is generate a variable word clock based on the fluctuations of incoming timecode (e.g. from a tape machine). You don't want that in this set-up. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

From: "freshrec" <fresh38@...> >To be clear, though, VSL will still be my #1 orchestral library because the >articulation and repitition tools are so incredible. And the sound >is great, no >question. >But the lazy side of me hates turning on that stupid Windows PC and dealing >with the routing and reverb issues of VSL. >So for $400, EWQLSO, which is a >simple NI Kompakt plugin, is a very nice addition. Sure it's a nice addition! The combination of the two is the bomb. Just a little bit of that hall reverb makes VSL sound better, and the detail of VSL makes EWQLSO sound more subtle. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

"teebone2004" <tomsalta@...> writes: >This is the kind of feedback that completely scares me and I continue to >be baffled by >the fact that my "out of date" OS 9 Rig with Logic 6 and PT Mix3 runs >like a dream >with DAE and Native at the same time. > >There's no way that I could work by running one engine at a time and >"switching to >mix mode" after I'm done. In my work I need to run mixes as I'm working >and >sometimes I never even need to render VI tracks. Creating and mixing >needs to be a >simultaneous process. When PT is involved that means someone else is >mixing it, >and it that case, I run stripes of everything. > >Isn't there anyone that IS running Logic 7 with DAE and Native >simultaneously using >PT HD hardware, that can give feedback based on their personal expeiences >instead >of speculation (based on Logic 6 use) or the experience of >others?...Particularly and >positive experiences?? DAE + DTDM in OS9 has always worked great in every rig (including mine) that I've ever installed/used. But I can't get any DAE+DTDM+HD rig in OSX to work right. DAE+DTDM+MIX in OSX works perfectly fine in all I've used. For HD, the solution is to get some kind of CoreAudio native interface and and de-activate DTDM. MOTU hardware works well. The disadvantage of this method is that A) it costs money and B) you use up some physical i/o on your HD interface (192i/o or 96i/o or whatever) to get audio streaming to/from the TDM<->Native world. But the advantages are many: First, you get two way communication (you can also stream audio from TDM to Native) and you can actually record on native tracks. Things also get much more efficient in terms of DSP horsepower. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

>As long as they're clocked together, it should work with any MIDI >interface. You don't even need anything as sophisticated as a Unitor. > >The essence of synchronization is that you need two things: timing >(speed) and address (location). The slave machine simply runs >relative to the speed of the word clock at the MTC location sent from >the master. Hopefully you're also sending MIDI Machine Control to >operate the slave's transport. > >All a synchronization device does is generate a variable word clock >based on the fluctuations of incoming timecode (e.g. from a tape >machine). You don't want that in this set-up. Now I'm really curious about this. When I've used MMC in the past, it was with tape decks, and although I was initiating commands on Logic, Logic was the slave. Can MMC and MTC lock two DAW set-ups together if the machines have a common word clock? The problem, I would think, is that even though the clock are locked, no work station is ready to actually go immediately when you hit play. Delays can even be longer if you're putting a computer into record (disk allocation). If the machines don't get off to an exact start, there's no mechanism for catch-up as there is when one machine is chasing, for instance, via LTC (incrementally varying clock speed to attain a perfect lock). I guess I've never felt the need to try this, and I've never been in on a session where someone was running audio from a session using multiple computers running in tandem (I have seen MIDI being run off one computer simultaneously with audio on another, but that's far less complicated). Maybe people are doing this all the time, and I simply need to get out more. Does anyone have such a system working well? Lee Blaske

I am using Logic 7 with PT 6.7 on a dual 1G, 1.5G ram, OSX 10.3.5. Other than the don¹t-go-to-lunch problem which is minor, my ESB-TDM system is stable and dependable. There are still a million frustrating bugs that require constant workarounds, but they are not causing crashes. I do create and mix together as you describe, however as I approach my final mixes I print all my soft synths and important effects to DAE tracks to make sure the timing is rock solid and that I can always exactly duplicate my session later if software changes. I need to also mention that I am minimizing my third party plug-ins at this time so I can¹t say how stable things would be if I used lots of those. Currently I am only using SampleTank 2 ­ all my other native instruments are Logic built-ins. On the DAE side I use Waves Platinum 5.0, also completely stable. * Dave On 12/23/04 6:40 AM, "teebone2004" <tomsalta@...> wrote: > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Rabitsch <thomas@r...> wrote: >> > Hello Philippe, >> > >> > You´re definitively not alone.... I have almost the same setup. >> > HD3 works fine, without any troubles. >> > Logic 6.4 crashes all the time in conjunction with DAE. >> > When i use core audio with RME, Logic is more stabile, but still.... >> > My solution under these circumstances is: >> > Composing, layouts, virtual instruments in Logic ONLY with core audio. >> > Then get ready for mixing: >> > Bounce and freeze everything, switch to ProTools and mix it there.... >> > Sounds little complicated, costs of course more time in the studio, but >> > works. > > This is the kind of feedback that completely scares me and I continue to be > baffled by > the fact that my "out of date" OS 9 Rig with Logic 6 and PT Mix3 runs like a > dream > with DAE and Native at the same time. > > There's no way that I could work by running one engine at a time and > "switching to > mix mode" after I'm done. In my work I need to run mixes as I'm working and > sometimes I never even need to render VI tracks. Creating and mixing needs to > be a > simultaneous process. When PT is involved that means someone else is mixing > it, > and it that case, I run stripes of everything. > > Isn't there anyone that IS running Logic 7 with DAE and Native simultaneously > using > PT HD hardware, that can give feedback based on their personal expeiences > instead > of speculation (based on Logic 6 use) or the experience of > others?...Particularly and > positive experiences?? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Another question... Won't different types and levels of ADC (or lack thereof), which I assume is implemented differently on different platforms, also throw an additonal monkey wrench into achieving perfect sync with no odd latencies between multiple audio DAW platforms running in tandem? Lee Blaske

In my experience this kind of set up never seems to maintain consistent results. I have tried this on a few occasions. The first time was with a Digi001 and a MOTU 828 and an MT4. The Digi001 was master and the computers were sync'd using ADAT and timecode was sent from Digi001 to the MT4. Recently I have tried this using An HD|2 Accel on a G5 with a Sync I/O on one computer and a Digi002R on a laptop. The HD system was running ProTools and I was programming in Logic on my G4 laptop. MTC was sent via the Sync I/O to the Digi002 i/p so ProTools was master and the two systems were word locked together with ADAT once again. On both occasions the systems are word locked together - there is/was no digital clicking - however, the sync always varies. My conclusion is that it has to do with MTC and inherent delays in MIDI. I've been meaning to try an MTP/AV on the Logic system and use LTC from the Sync I/O rather than MTC as this should take out inherent delays within MIDI (optical interface etc.). It does seem ridiculous that you can use a totally separate computer over ethernet and it will stay in sync in Logic 7 and I still can't get two different systems working like this. ProTools never has this problem but then when two systems are used in conjunction I guess they are generally locked with LTC and word clock/house sync. Simon On 23 Dec 2004, at 18:36, Lee Blaske wrote: > >> As long as they're clocked together, it should work with any MIDI >> interface. You don't even need anything as sophisticated as a Unitor. >> >> The essence of synchronization is that you need two things: timing >> (speed) and address (location). The slave machine simply runs >> relative to the speed of the word clock at the MTC location sent from >> the master. Hopefully you're also sending MIDI Machine Control to >> operate the slave's transport. >> >> All a synchronization device does is generate a variable word clock >> based on the fluctuations of incoming timecode (e.g. from a tape >> machine). You don't want that in this set-up. > > Now I'm really curious about this. When I've used MMC in the past, it > was with tape decks, and although I was initiating commands on Logic, > Logic was the slave. Can MMC and MTC lock two DAW set-ups together if > the machines have a common word clock? The problem, I would think, is > that even though the clock are locked, no work station is ready to > actually go immediately when you hit play. Delays can even be longer > if you're putting a computer into record (disk allocation). If the > machines don't get off to an exact start, there's no mechanism for > catch-up as there is when one machine is chasing, for instance, via > LTC (incrementally varying clock speed to attain a perfect lock). > > I guess I've never felt the need to try this, and I've never been in > on a session where someone was running audio from a session using > multiple computers running in tandem (I have seen MIDI being run off > one computer simultaneously with audio on another, but that's far > less complicated). > > Maybe people are doing this all the time, and I simply need to get > out more. Does anyone have such a system working well? > > Lee Blaske > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > 512k Broadband £14.99 per month Unlimited Downloads - No extra Costs £14.99 per month (inc. VAT) Order Now www.adsl4less.com

Hi! Logic/DAE worked like a dream in OS9, we all know that, and we miss the good old days. But, if you read my recent post reg. this, (Am I alone+tech tips...) you'll find my personal experience about trying to make things work under OS X. I don't have any problems with DTDM together with DAE. Good Luck and Merry Christmas! Alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "teebone2004" <tomsalta@t...> wrote: > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Rabitsch <thomas@r...> wrote: > > Hello Philippe, > > > > You´re definitively not alone.... I have almost the same setup. > > HD3 works fine, without any troubles. > > Logic 6.4 crashes all the time in conjunction with DAE. > > When i use core audio with RME, Logic is more stabile, but still.... > > My solution under these circumstances is: > > Composing, layouts, virtual instruments in Logic ONLY with core audio. > > Then get ready for mixing: > > Bounce and freeze everything, switch to ProTools and mix it there.... > > Sounds little complicated, costs of course more time in the studio, but > > works. > > This is the kind of feedback that completely scares me and I continue to be baffled by > the fact that my "out of date" OS 9 Rig with Logic 6 and PT Mix3 runs like a dream > with DAE and Native at the same time. > > There's no way that I could work by running one engine at a time and "switching to > mix mode" after I'm done. In my work I need to run mixes as I'm working and > sometimes I never even need to render VI tracks. Creating and mixing needs to be a > simultaneous process. When PT is involved that means someone else is mixing it, > and it that case, I run stripes of everything. > > Isn't there anyone that IS running Logic 7 with DAE and Native simultaneously using > PT HD hardware, that can give feedback based on their personal expeiencesinstead > of speculation (based on Logic 6 use) or the experience of others?...Particularly and > positive experiences?? > > Thanks!

Thanks Dave for that ray of hope. ;-) Any others out there with Logic 7 and PT HD in OSX running Native and TDM simultaneously? Instead of me quizzing you on the million little bugs you describe, I wouldbe curious to ask how it compares stability wise to Native and TDM in Logic 6 OS9. Did you have an OS9 system with ESB? How do you feel about the idea of running Native on it's own card and sending it via ADAT bridge into the TDM side? Best, Tom

Hi Tom - Yes, with my previous mac (PowerMac 9600) I ran Logic/DAE/ESB under OS9 with a Mix-2 system. It was OK when it worked but crashed very often and with OS9 that meant re-booting the mac. I made a couple albums with that system but it was always nerve-wracking not knowing how much I¹d get done before the next crash. That was with Logic 5 I believe. When I upgraded to HD2, I also upgraded to a dual 1G. At first I stayed with OS9 but my work during that time was mostly in Pro Tools so I did not do much logic/ESB stuff under OS9 with HD2, so I can¹t report about HD2 with Logic/DAE under OS9. I upgraded to OSX as soon as the OSX Pro Tools upgrade was available, which I think was when logic was at an early version 6 and OSX was 10.2.6 jaguar. From that time until recently when I installed Logic 7, ESB was an endless parade of problems, everything from Logic crashes that did not crash the mac but required Logic to be re-launched, to distortion on the ESB bus, to DTDM instruments that would stay silent no matter what, to graphic anomolies that made Logic¹s interface unusable and required relaunching, all the way to frozen cursors that required hard restarts of the mac. There was a slight improvement when ProTools upgraded to allow OSX 10.3 panther, but most of those problems with Logic continued. I was just about ready to buy a MOTU and switch to the native core audio lightpipe <> 192 solution when Logic 7 was released. Since I¹ve installed Logic 7 and Pro Tools 6.7 and OSX 10.3.5, the systemis now completely stable and ESB works as advertised. The caveat to this is that I am not pushing it with a lot of third party plug-ins. I run all the Logic plugs and TDM Waves 5 platinum, plus AU SampleTank third party. I have a bunch more third party plug ins I will test soon, but I¹m waiting to finish a project in case they cause problems. The native card/ADAT lightpipe method still has advantages because you can stream both directions and I know several folks here have great results with that. It would be cool for example to be able to send live audio into the Logic vocoder which cannot be done with ESB. But I have not tried that method now that ESB is working and stable. Some say the lightpipe has greater latency, but I have found variable latency with ESB so that¹s not for sure. There is a whole latency thread in the archives of this yahoo group if you want to read about that. As far as my million bug list, I have been absolutely amazed at the number of mostly small things (some not so small) that do not work right in Logic 7. But since they are not causing crashes or data loss, I am able to work around them. At first they were freaking me out but when I realized they were not fatal to my projects I calmed down and started a list. When I have a break between records, I think I will post the list here, at least for entertainment value. * Dave -- -- David Gordon Composer/Producer www.sequoiarecords.com On 12/23/04 8:12 PM, "teebone2004" <tomsalta@...> wrote: > > > Thanks Dave for that ray of hope. ;-) Any others out there with Logic 7 > and PT HD in OSX running Native and TDM simultaneously? > > Instead of me quizzing you on the million little bugs you describe, I would be > curious to ask how it compares stability wise to Native and TDM in Logic 6 > OS9. Did you have an OS9 system with ESB? How do you feel about the ideaof > running Native on it's own card and sending it via ADAT bridge into the TDM > side? > > Best, > > Tom > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

ESB/DTDM all running cool here, recording, mixing, MIDI, EXS24 TDM,movies. I'm Using a G5 Dual 2Gig, With 2.5 gig of RAM, HD2 and L7. PTs 6.7 OS 10.3.5. and a seperate 160 gig internal HD for audio. Plug ins, Waves Platinum, GRM Tools, Altiverb, Soundblender and all the HD Pack stuff that came with the upgrade. I Get all the usual niggly little bugs but nothing major. Crashes every now and then (somedays more than others) but again nothing too bad. I have noticed though that almost everytime i do get a crash Logic is in cycle mode, I get that machine gun sound like Logic is stuck in a very short loop then it just crashes. I wasn't on OSX for very long before L7 came out but things have definately improved since 6 pro. I'd say it's now only very slightly less stable than my old Mix3 system on OS9/G4/450/ Magma Chassis. It just crashes in a different way for different reasons. Happy Xmas Toni --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "phileidel" <phileidel@y...> wrote: > > My set-up is G5 2*1,8/1,5 ram + HD3 . > It simply does not work. > After many experiments, the problem seems to come from the G5, since in the same set- > up, just replacing the G5 by the G4 , it works just fine. > I mentioned the problem to Emagic (germany). They just have no idea > I can really feel that now Emagic is going far from the TDM world . > > Anyway, am I the only one ? > > Philippe

Hey! I think there's some confusion in this subject and I second both Alar's and Gordons posts. I've been following the user forums of generic LP7(without digicards) and I honestly think we TDM'rs are reporting more or less the same bugs as they are. The only bugs that would be exclusive for us are the "dont go to lunch" and audiosuite issues(no preview, no typing in the parameter boxes). So yes, I am also getting near to the stability I had with my OS9/PTMIX/LAP4 rig. In fact I have great fun with it! Be good, Erik Dual2G G5,OS10.3.7,PTHD3accell,LP7(running DTDM) > > > Thanks Dave for that ray of hope. ;-) Any others out there with Logic 7 > and PT HD in OSX running Native and TDM simultaneously? > > Instead of me quizzing you on the million little bugs you describe, I would be > curious to ask how it compares stability wise to Native and TDM in Logic 6 > OS9. Did you have an OS9 system with ESB? How do you feel about the idea of > running Native on it's own card and sending it via ADAT bridge into the TDM > side? > > Best, > > Tom > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Just wanna send out an Merry Xmas to all of you's, and thank you for all the excellent help I've been revieving during the 04'!! Good luck with your OSX/DAE/ESB/TDM/PTHD/MIX/LP7/LAP6 or whatever rigs you got out there! /Erik

.May be your G5 1.8 is 2. Generation and so not compatible with P.Tools HD > > Happy Xmas > Wolfgang

Hi All, Not sure if the digi001 is relevant to this board but I have an urgent problem I was hoping someone could help me with: Suddenly my Logic (6.1.0 on a G4 and going through a digi001) will not recognize any inputs except 1-10. Just a couple weeks ago I recorded digitally with inputs on tracks 17-18 and now suddenly it lists all inputs after 10 as "grey" and inaccessible. This is deeply frustrating as i'm on a tight time schedule. ANY ideas/solutions will be greatly and deeply appreciated, Thanks Pally lebraman@...

"lebraman" <lebraman@...> writes: > digi001) will not recognize any inputs except 1-10 This is a list for TDM hardware. You'll likely get more responses at the regular logic-users group also at yahoogroups.com. I think there's a setting in the Direct I/O driver that allows more physical inputs and outputs to be recognized. It defaults to 8 I think. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Anyone know if there will be a logic 7 update any time soon, there are a few little bugs like the Copy/Paste file name thing plus other small ones that drive me nutz. Alex G -------www.riprocknalexg.com

Thanks but this link will onl;y allow me to download Ver 1,1 When I try to install it says "please install HTDM instruments ver 1.0 first". Cant see where HTDM ver 1.0 is available to download. Any help greatly appreciated. Cheers Ged --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Amun Raa <twentyfiveghosts@y...> wrote: > to all you in need of the HTDM enabler: > > http://www.emagic.de/support/download/index.php?langÞ; > > Download bothe v. 1.1 & 1.2 and it should run;-) Only > you need to authorize your XS key!!! > > 25 Ghosts > --- gedgrimes <ged@j...> wrote: > > > > > > > Tis an OSX version Of Host TDM Peter but thanks. Im > > still > > dithering over whether to upgrade to Logic 7 on OSX > > at this time. > > Id rather get my existing system running > > smoothly.... > > Cheers > > Ged > > > > Jack's Hoose Music > > SCotland > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Peter Duemmler > > <merlin@m...> wrote: > > > Try this link: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.apple.com/emagic/Host_TDM.dmg.gz > > > > > > But this might be the OSX version... > > > > > > Peter > > > --- > > > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > > > > Am 22.12.2004 um 16:41 schrieb gedgrimes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there > > > > Still struggling to get this to function. I have > > the demo > > authorised > > > > in my XS key manager but I need to find the URL > > for Host > > TRM > > > > enabler Version 1. I have tried installing Ver > > 1.1 off the > > emagic > > > > site but I need Ver 1 installed first. > > > > Any ideas if this download is still > > available....? > > > > Cheers > > > > Ged > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to > > contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com

On 12/20/04 10:46 PM, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...> wrote: > > <alexgreggs@...> writes: >>>> I know some of my AU's are not passing the >>>> validator because I am reminded everyday!! Is >>>> there a way I can skip the AU-Val and just bring it >>>> up when I need it? > > On 12/20/04 11:01 AM, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...> wrote: >>> You can't NOT see this warning if you are indeed >>> using an invalid plugin[s]. > > Eddie Sullivan <esullivan@...> writes: >> If you have plug ins in the AU folder that are invalid >> and you are not using, you can pull them out of the >> folder and it should stop the message. > > > Well, er yes.. That will definitely stop the message. But it > also makes the plugin unavailable in Logic or any other AU > host. > > It's kind of like prescribing amputation for a charliehorse. That's why I qualified that and said 'that you are not using' A lot of folks try out free AU's, and don't know how to take em out of commission, sometimes it's these free ones that cause a problem (you get what you pay for) Izotope vinyl was such a plug in for me. It was buggy and caused a similar error message on startup. I wasn't crazy about the effect so I removed it. Now my system is blingin' again. Eddie IMS > > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > --

Hi Simon I agree with you. I think there is a combination of ProTools being less geared up for sample accurate sync to MTC (if that's even possible) and some inherent timing discrepancies with MIDI per se. I feel if sync' is taken away from the MIDI protocol, which is known to suffer delays for a variety of reasons, timing might improve. I'm also hoping that it will solve the problem whereby ProTools' ability to process incoming MIDI notes suffers, when it is also having to deal with incoming MTC (even if they use separate interfaces). I'm going to try and borrow a Sync IO and see if striping SMPTE onto a Logic track and locking ProTools to that yields better results. If anyone had any suggestions of the best way to do this, I'd be extremely grateful. Thanks to one and all. Jules > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Changer [mailto:s.changer@...] > Sent: 23 December 2004 20:38 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: RE: Slave ProTools to Logic - > separate machines > > > In my experience this kind of set up never seems to maintain > consistent results. I have tried this on a few occasions. The > first time was with a Digi001 and a MOTU 828 and an MT4. The > Digi001 was master and the computers were sync'd using ADAT > and timecode was sent from Digi001 to the MT4. > > Recently I have tried this using An HD|2 Accel on a G5 with a > Sync I/O on one computer and a Digi002R on a laptop. The HD > system was running ProTools and I was programming in Logic on > my G4 laptop. MTC was sent via the Sync I/O to the Digi002 > i/p so ProTools was master and the two systems were word > locked together with ADAT once again. > > On both occasions the systems are word locked together - > there is/was no digital clicking - however, the sync always > varies. My conclusion is that it has to do with MTC and > inherent delays in MIDI. I've been meaning to try an MTP/AV > on the Logic system and use LTC from the Sync I/O rather than > MTC as this should take out inherent delays within MIDI > (optical interface etc.). > > It does seem ridiculous that you can use a totally separate > computer over ethernet and it will stay in sync in Logic 7 > and I still can't get two different systems working like this. > > ProTools never has this problem but then when two systems are > used in conjunction I guess they are generally locked with > LTC and word clock/house sync. > > Simon > > > On 23 Dec 2004, at 18:36, Lee Blaske wrote: > > > > >> As long as they're clocked together, it should work with any MIDI > >> interface. You don't even need anything as sophisticated > as a Unitor. > >> > >> The essence of synchronization is that you need two things: timing > >> (speed) and address (location). The slave machine simply runs > >> relative to the speed of the word clock at the MTC > location sent from > >> the master. Hopefully you're also sending MIDI Machine Control to > >> operate the slave's transport. > >> > >> All a synchronization device does is generate a variable > word clock > >> based on the fluctuations of incoming timecode (e.g. from a tape > >> machine). You don't want that in this set-up. > > > > Now I'm really curious about this. When I've used MMC in > the past, it > > was with tape decks, and although I was initiating commands > on Logic, > > Logic was the slave. Can MMC and MTC lock two DAW set-ups > together if > > the machines have a common word clock? The problem, I would > think, is > > that even though the clock are locked, no work station is ready to > > actually go immediately when you hit play. Delays can even > be longer > > if you're putting a computer into record (disk allocation). If the > > machines don't get off to an exact start, there's no mechanism for > > catch-up as there is when one machine is chasing, for instance, via > > LTC (incrementally varying clock speed to attain a perfect lock). > > > > I guess I've never felt the need to try this, and I've > never been in > > on a session where someone was running audio from a session using > > multiple computers running in tandem (I have seen MIDI > being run off > > one computer simultaneously with audio on another, but > that's far less > > complicated). > > > > Maybe people are doing this all the time, and I simply need > to get out > > more. Does anyone have such a system working well? > > > > Lee Blaske > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 512k Broadband #14.99 per month > Unlimited Downloads - No extra Costs > #14.99 per month (inc. VAT) > Order Now www.adsl4less.com > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

>I'm going to try and borrow a Sync IO and see if striping SMPTE onto a Logic >track and locking ProTools to that yields better results. > >If anyone had any suggestions of the best way to do this, I'd be extremely >grateful. If you do it that way, obviously PT will be chasing Logic. In such a situation, you just might want to experiment with not having the Logic machine's word clock hooked up to the same source as the Sync i/o and PT rig (i.e. free floating). With that kind of set-up (with SMPTE striping recorded on a Logic track), your PT rig should chase the Logic rig as well as PT would chase an analog 24 track. Lee Blaske