Hi f-erenc - Here is an idea you could try: de-activate the DAE driver, re-launch logic with DTDM only, check the loop browser and see if it works then. If yes, you could then re-active the DAE driver and it might retain the corrected audition setting. - Dave -- -- David Gordon Composer/Producer www.sequoiarecords.com On 11/25/04 1:33 PM, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...> wrote: > > > DAE can't play stereo files (never has... well 13 years > ago it could). Neither can I preview stereo AppleLoops > in the LoopBrowser (because it's being routed through a > DAE track). It's irrelevant if this DAE track is set to > stereo or not.... this never actually allows "stereo" files. > It only means "dual mono" and stereo AppleLoops are > definitely not dual mono but true stereo interleaved. > > Next time I'm in the studio I'll switch the Sample > Editor's "DEV" to DTDM and see if this works. > > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Are you reading my mind, Dave :-) ? I was just going to post the same advise... Telepathy :-) ? Or just a Logical :-) thought of 2 more or less experienced people :-) ? And F-erenc, I know you're one of the most experienced here, so I'm 100% sure you'll sort it sooner or later, can you then tell us the cause of your unique problem? Best, Andy At 1:52 PM -0800 11/25/04, David Gordon wrote: >Hi f-erenc - > >Here is an idea you could try: de-activate the DAE driver, re-launch logic >with DTDM only, check the loop browser and see if it works then. If yes, >you could then re-active the DAE driver and it might retain the corrected >audition setting. > >- Dave x --

David Gordon <music-pro@...> writes: >Here is an idea you could try: de-activate the DAE >driver, re-launch logic with DTDM only, check the loop >browser and see if it works then. If yes, you could >then re-active the DAE driver and it might retain the >corrected audition setting. I tried this and various combinations of this. Nothing worked. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "strut53" <allarts@a...> wrote: alar you are correct (only 1'st HD). Now I need to find an update... Many thanks. M > > Hi Matti, > that's because your mix gets overexcited......just > kidding..... Did you check your TDM DSP usage? > I dont know if Aphex is updated for the accel chips, > if not, that could be your problem. You can determine > that if the plug only instanciates on your 1'st HD > Core card. > > All the best > alar > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "mattiblack" <mattiblack@y...> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > My aphex aural exiter seems to behave wierd. I cant use more the 12 (or 13 cant > > remember). Some sometimes it crashes my computer. > > > > anyone else with similar problem ? > > > > M > > > > G5 2ghz 2RAM HD3 accel.

f-erenc, there are some question marks that needs to be straightened... I'm sure you've tried this, but; When you drop an apple loop on a DTDM track, does it play back as it's supposed to? After you dropped the loop on a track and open the sample editor, can you then audition the loop through DTDM via the sample editor? If you now listen to the loop browser, does it still play back through DAE? What happens with the loop browser auditioning if you change device to DAE in the sample editor? (Just change it, don't audition, it will switch back to DTDM if you do) Clearly, this is a bug, but I'm curious if there's a way to work around it, and maybe solve your problem... (hope emagic/apple support is monitoring this!) Cheers/alar --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> wrote: > David Gordon <music-pro@c...> writes: > >Here is an idea you could try: de-activate the DAE > >driver, re-launch logic with DTDM only, check the loop > >browser and see if it works then. If yes, you could > >then re-active the DAE driver and it might retain the > >corrected audition setting. > > I tried this and various combinations of this. > > Nothing worked. > > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> > > > > >

Hi, perhaps I can. I had this error message a few days ago, too. I've just installed the whole system before. The problem was, that I clicked in the Logic-Setup-Assistent I want to use DTDM and NO CoreAudio. If you have this activated (no coreaudio), this message (and very much others) is shown by using CoreAudio (instead of DTDM) in Logic. Don't know if you have done the same mistake, but you should perhaps just start the setup assistent one more time and be care full about the settings, at the audio dialogue. Xcell Am 25.11.2004 um 20:53 schrieb SoulReaver: > > Will somebody *PLEASE* tell me how to fix this d@mn error? I've > reinstalled > the thing and tried everything I could think of. > > Logic Pro 7 > Powerbook G4 1.5MHz > 1GB RAM > > T H A N K Y O U! > SR > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Just installed a second Mix farm card to my modest MixPlus system. 5.01. I have tons of work from my old set up and now with this other card my plugins seem to be not connecting correctly. EG. the name of the selected plug in does not represent the actual plug in. Are there plug ins that may not be compatible with this newer version Mix Farm Card? If so, Is there a way around this? Thanks, Fred -- Fred Smith Studio Kitchener, Ontario, Canada http://www.fredsmithstudio.com/

Has anyone had any success with the 'Detect Cuts' function in the video track? Cuts do not appear in the Beat Mapping track as described in the manual. Joe

I am using the DTDM driver alongside DAE in Logic 7 with HD and am still having a few of the usual problems. Since I only ever really use the main stereo out via ESB into the TDM mixer, I was wondering if there would be any advantage to ditching this configuration and moving to Core Audio / DAE. Could I take the optical out from my G5 and run this into a 96 i/o and so create a similar setup but with core audio doing all the native stuff? If this is possible, does anyone else work like this and, if so, is it any better? Cheers, Ian

I remember reading about issues when extending the right end of an audio region to meet the left of another, so sorry if I'm not up to date. No matter how I tweak the settings in Snap & Drag I can't seem to get a visual of my left region when I drag that over my right. I'ts allway placed "underneeth"!? I have to place the region on another track to see it! What am I missing here? Is there no way to ghange this? Thankful for input! /Erik

OK, everybody, here's the $60,000 question-- You're using Logic as a front-end for TDM hardware (running DAE, not CoreAudio). You have a stereo recording you want to play through DAE. You want to process it using stereo TDM plugs. You also want to pan the tracks some way other than hard left and right. I'm curious how other people solve this, because the only way I can think of to do it is to create a separate stereo aux track and run the channels through that. Sorry if this is old territory for some of you, but it seems there should be a better way than taking 3 tracks in Arrange and Mixer just to do this for one musical part. I'm running Logic 6.4.3 through an HD2 system on a Mac SP1.25. Does anybody know if there is a TDM utility plug for OSX that lets you do channel-swapping and independent panning for each side? There was one for OS9 called "Widgets", but I haven't seen an update to OSX. I think I can channel-swap and adjust the image width using Waves S1 Shuffler, but I'm hoping there's a better solution that is less chip-hungry. Any suggestions? Thanks-- Kevin

This behavior appeared with logic 7. It¹s not only when extending the left corner, it¹s whenever regions overlap, only the later region is visible on top, no matter what selection method is used ­ with audio and with midi regions. It¹s a new bug. I have not found any workaround other than making another track for the overlapped objects. The Œselect overlap¹ command doesn¹t even help with it. I have a whole list of new bugs that came with Logic 7. I¹m on a deadline & haven¹t had a chance to post them yet ­ the list grows every time I do another session, it¹s truly amazing! So far bugs are not stopping me from working, though they are a hassle, so overall Logic 7 is an improvement from earlier versions which crashed very often. Anyway, back to your question ­ you¹ll need to use extra tracks to do what you want. If you find a better solution, please let us kow! * Dave -- David Gordon Recording Artist/Producer Sequoia Records Phone: 760-942-7574 www.sequoiarecords.com On 11/28/04 5:10 AM, "godmouth1965" <eriksojdelius@...> wrote: > > > I remember reading about issues when extending the right end of an audio > region to meet > the left of another, so sorry if I'm not up to date. > > No matter how I tweak the settings in Snap & Drag I can't seem to get a visual > of my left > region when I drag that over my right. I'ts allway placed "underneeth"!? I > have to place the > region on another track to see it! > > What am I missing here? Is there no way to ghange this? > > Thankful for input! > > /Erik > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hi Kev, how´bout using two mono channels? 2004-11-28 kl. 00.43 skrev bashvilleny: > > > > OK, everybody, here's the $60,000 question-- > > You're using Logic as a front-end for TDM hardware (running DAE, not > CoreAudio). You have a stereo recording you want to play through DAE. > You > want to process it using stereo TDM plugs. You also want to pan the > tracks > some way other than hard left and right. > > I'm curious how other people solve this, because the only way I can > think of to > do it is to create a separate stereo aux track and run the channels > through > that. Sorry if this is old territory for some of you, but it seems > there should be a > better way than taking 3 tracks in Arrange and Mixer just to do this > for one > musical part. > > I'm running Logic 6.4.3 through an HD2 system on a Mac SP1.25. > > Does anybody know if there is a TDM utility plug for OSX that lets you > do > channel-swapping and independent panning for each side? There was one > for OS9 called "Widgets", but I haven't seen an update to OSX. > > I think I can channel-swap and adjust the image width using Waves S1 > Shuffler, but I'm hoping there's a better solution that is less > chip-hungry. > > Any suggestions? Thanks-- > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > _______________________________ Erik Häusler Future Love Productions AB Ehrensvärdsgatan 6 112 35 Stockholm Tel. +46 8 650 20 81 Mob. +46 708 650 550 Home +46 8 650 20 80 erik@...

I have a big problem with my L7/G4 dual 1.25, Osx 10.3.6, PT 6.4.1cs2. I isnot possible to bounce in L7 thru DAE. I have trashed the pref-file and it works for oneday. But now, it does´nt work again and I have no idea what can I do.....I hope anyone canhelp me..... thanx Modo

> Has anyone had any success with the 'Detect Cuts' function in the > video track? Cuts do not > appear in the Beat Mapping track as described in the manual. Works really well here! _____________________________________________________ MATT MCKENZIE-SMITH MUSIC • AUDIO DESIGN • PRODUCTION PO Box 10395, Adelaide 5000, South Australia. Ph.+61 416 197 883 goodaudiosense.com.au mattrixx.net _____________________________________________________

Hey Modo, Search this site for related posts. I know the answer to your problem is in here somewhere. I've never had this problem but I remember reading about it and the sollution. Something about a bug causing logic to be "stuck" in off-line mode. I think you have to go to a DTDM object and press bounce and then de-select the offline mode. Something like that, but search for a more detailed post! Good Luck! /Erik > > > > I have a big problem with my L7/G4 dual 1.25, Osx 10.3.6, PT 6.4.1cs2. I is > not possible > to bounce in L7 thru DAE. I have trashed the pref-file and it works for one > day. But now, it > does´nt work again and I have no idea what can I do.....I hope anyone can help > me..... > thanx > Modo > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Thanx Dave. I was afraid this was the case, now I know. Are you getting used to it(xtra tracks), or is it bugging you alot? Cheers, Erik > > This behavior appeared with logic 7. It¹s not only when extending the left > corner, it¹s whenever regions overlap, only the later region is visibleon > top, no matter what selection method is used ­ with audio and with midi > regions. It¹s a new bug. I have not found any workaround other than making > another track for the overlapped objects. The Œselect overlap¹ command > doesn¹t even help with it. > > I have a whole list of new bugs that came with Logic 7. I¹m on a deadline & > haven¹t had a chance to post them yet ­ the list grows every time I do > another session, it¹s truly amazing! So far bugs are not stopping me from > working, though they are a hassle, so overall Logic 7 is an improvement from > earlier versions which crashed very often. > > Anyway, back to your question ­ you¹ll need to use extra tracks to dowhat > you want. If you find a better solution, please let us kow! > > * Dave >

No, I¹m not getting used to this hassle! Overlapping regions has been a feature of Logic since the beginning. I hope Apple considers it a bug and not something they did intentionally. It¹s causes wasted screen space and extra mousing around. * Dave -- -- David Gordon Composer/Producer www.sequoiarecords.com On 11/28/04 1:02 PM, "Erik Sojdelius" <eriksojdelius@...> wrote: > > Thanx Dave. I was afraid this was the case, now I know. Are you getting used > to it(xtra tracks), or is it bugging you alot? > > Cheers, > > Erik > >> > >> > This behavior appeared with logic 7. It¹s not only when extending the left >> > corner, it¹s whenever regions overlap, only the later region is visible on >> > top, no matter what selection method is used ­ with audio and with midi >> > regions. It¹s a new bug. I have not found any workaround other than >> making >> > another track for the overlapped objects. The Œselect overlap¹ command >> > doesn¹t even help with it. >> > >> > I have a whole list of new bugs that came with Logic 7. I¹m on a deadline & >> > haven¹t had a chance to post them yet ­ the list grows every time I do >> > another session, it¹s truly amazing! So far bugs are not stopping me from >> > working, though they are a hassle, so overall Logic 7 is an improvement >> from >> > earlier versions which crashed very often. >> > >> > Anyway, back to your question ­ you¹ll need to use extra tracks todo what >> > you want. If you find a better solution, please let us kow! >> > >> > * Dave >> > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

"modobierkamp" <modo.bierkamp@...> writes: > is not possible to bounce in L7 thru DAE. Click on the BNCE button of a native output (Core Audio or DTDM) and then once you're in the native Bounce dialogue box, switch from Offline to Realtime bounce mode. Then try your DAE bounce. L7.0.0 gets "stuck" in Offline mode which of course doesn't work with DAE. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Häusler <erik@f...> wrote: > Hi Kev, > how´bout using two mono channels? Hi Erik, thanks for responding. The problem with using two mono channels is then you can't use stereo plug-ins to process the sound unless you send the output of those two mono channels to a stereo aux channel, then process that. So you're using all this extra real estate on your mixer. OK, I'm glad I can do it, but I'm curious what other workarounds people have found. Kevin > 2004-11-28 kl. 00.43 skrev bashvilleny: > > > > > > > > > OK, everybody, here's the $60,000 question-- > > > > You're using Logic as a front-end for TDM hardware (running DAE, not > > CoreAudio). You have a stereo recording you want to play through DAE. > > You > > want to process it using stereo TDM plugs. You also want to pan the > > tracks > > some way other than hard left and right. > > > > I'm curious how other people solve this, because the only way I can > > think of to > > do it is to create a separate stereo aux track and run the channels > > through > > that. Sorry if this is old territory for some of you, but it seems > > there should be a > > better way than taking 3 tracks in Arrange and Mixer just to do this > > for one > > musical part. > > > > I'm running Logic 6.4.3 through an HD2 system on a Mac SP1.25. > > > > Does anybody know if there is a TDM utility plug for OSX that lets you > > do > > channel-swapping and independent panning for each side? There was one > > for OS9 called "Widgets", but I haven't seen an update to OSX. > > > > I think I can channel-swap and adjust the image width using Waves S1 > > Shuffler, but I'm hoping there's a better solution that is less > > chip-hungry. > > > > Any suggestions? Thanks-- > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > Erik Häusler > Future Love Productions AB > Ehrensvärdsgatan 6 > 112 35 Stockholm > Tel. +46 8 650 20 81 > Mob. +46 708 650 550 > Home +46 8 650 20 80 > erik@f...

There are a few plugins which allow you to alter stereo width - I think Waves do one and Logic has one in the helper menu somewhere.... On 29 Nov 2004, at 06:50, bashvilleny wrote: > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Häusler <erik@f...> wrote: >> Hi Kev, >> how´bout using two mono channels? > > Hi Erik, thanks for responding. The problem with using two mono > channels is > then you can't use stereo plug-ins to process the sound unless you send > the output of those two mono channels to a stereo aux channel, then > process > that. So you're using all this extra real estate on your mixer. OK, > I'm glad I > can do it, but I'm curious what other workarounds people have found. > > Kevin > > > >> 2004-11-28 kl. 00.43 skrev bashvilleny: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> OK, everybody, here's the $60,000 question-- >>> >>> You're using Logic as a front-end for TDM hardware (running DAE, > not >>> CoreAudio). You have a stereo recording you want to play through > DAE. >>> You >>> want to process it using stereo TDM plugs. You also want to pan > the >>> tracks >>> some way other than hard left and right. >>> >>> I'm curious how other people solve this, because the only way I > can >>> think of to >>> do it is to create a separate stereo aux track and run the > channels >>> through >>> that. Sorry if this is old territory for some of you, but it > seems >>> there should be a >>> better way than taking 3 tracks in Arrange and Mixer just to do > this >>> for one >>> musical part. >>> >>> I'm running Logic 6.4.3 through an HD2 system on a Mac SP1.25. >>> >>> Does anybody know if there is a TDM utility plug for OSX that > lets you >>> do >>> channel-swapping and independent panning for each side? There was > one >>> for OS9 called "Widgets", but I haven't seen an update to OSX. >>> >>> I think I can channel-swap and adjust the image width using Waves > S1 >>> Shuffler, but I'm hoping there's a better solution that is less >>> chip-hungry. >>> >>> Any suggestions? Thanks-- >>> >>> Kevin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >>> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________ >> Erik Häusler >> Future Love Productions AB >> Ehrensvärdsgatan 6 >> 112 35 Stockholm >> Tel. +46 8 650 20 81 >> Mob. +46 708 650 550 >> Home +46 8 650 20 80 >> erik@f... > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Logic´s helper plug-in won´t work on TDM tracks. I´m using Waves S1 for now. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Simon Changer wrote: > There are a few plugins which allow you to alter stereo width - I > think Waves do one and Logic has one in the helper menu somewhere.... > > > On 29 Nov 2004, at 06:50, bashvilleny wrote: >> --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Häusler <erik@f...> wrote: >>> Hi Kev, >>> how´bout using two mono channels? >> >> Hi Erik, thanks for responding. The problem with using two mono >> channels is >> then you can't use stereo plug-ins to process the sound unless you >> send the output of those two mono channels to a stereo aux channel, >> then process >> that. So you're using all this extra real estate on your mixer. OK, >> I'm glad I >> can do it, but I'm curious what other workarounds people have found.

Hi all, I know this has been a topic over the last months. Is the quality OK for ESB since L7 or is there still a quality loss in ESB in comparision to ESB on OS9? I would be glad for short messages about that, Matthias.

Matthias Frank <frank@...> writes: >Is the quality OK for ESB since L7 or is there still >a quality loss in ESB in comparision to ESB on OS9? On more than one OSX/TDM rig I can't get ESB to work properly. So I've advocated that DTDM is avoided and CoreAudio is used instead. This means buying another soundcard perhaps, but the performance is much better. Even when the Mac's internal soundcard is used (via CoreAudio), I get much better performance. Again, this is not a one-shot phenomenon. I've encountered it again and again on different TDM rigs (G4, G5). OS9 works perfectly fine however. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Hello, I use Pro Tools MixPlus with DAE 5.1.1 and Logic 4.8 Mac Os 9.2.2 G4 (Dual 800 Mhz). When I use heavy plug-ins (like Lexiverb or waves) I cannot fill the entire DSP and after 7 or 8 plug ins I see the message "-7204 TDM Maxed Out" but the Allocator application show that 4 or 5 chips are still free. This don't happen with small plug ins like Digidesign 4-Band Eq. This don't happen with Pro Tools software. I have 150 Mb of RAM assigned to DAE and 150 to Logic. Any solutions for this problem? Thanks