I've been experiencing ESB trouble (buzzing then quit, distorted sound..) like many others in both Logic 6&7, since all my card slots are full (HD3 system) I'm looking for a Firewire alternative. I'm considering either the MOTU 828MKII or the M Audio 1814. Both are standalone Firewire in ADAT light pipe out interfaces. Has anybody been using either of these with TDM systems having any luck? I noticed in the M Audio specs it said it was compatable with MacOSX core audio, do you have to run core audio for these boxes to work? Core audio drivers can't be used at the same time as DAE... thanks Ed A

With Logic 7, I use the 828 mkII for core audio and HD3 system for TDM. Yes, both are enabled and work . --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "ealton04" <edlogic@p...> wrote: > > I've been experiencing ESB trouble (buzzing then quit, distorted > sound..) like many others in both Logic 6&7, since all my card > slots are full (HD3 system) I'm looking for a Firewire alternative. > I'm considering either the MOTU 828MKII or the M Audio 1814. > Both are standalone Firewire in ADAT light pipe out interfaces. > Has anybody been using either of these with TDM systems > having any luck? I noticed in the M Audio specs it said it was > compatable with MacOSX core audio, do you have to run core > audio for these boxes to work? Core audio drivers can't be used > at the same time as DAE... > > thanks > > Ed A

Yes, you need to run the core audio driver ­ I think MOTU has a custom one you need to install. But you misunderstood about core audio drivers and DAE ­ they can be used together OK. What does not work is to use three drivers at once. You can use core + DAE, or DTDM + DAE, but not all three together. * Dave -- -- David Gordon Composer/Producer www.sequoiarecords.com On 10/29/04 9:56 AM, "ealton04" <edlogic@...> wrote: > > > I've been experiencing ESB trouble (buzzing then quit, distorted > sound..) like many others in both Logic 6&7, since all my card > slots are full (HD3 system) I'm looking for a Firewire alternative. > I'm considering either the MOTU 828MKII or the M Audio 1814. > Both are standalone Firewire in ADAT light pipe out interfaces. > Has anybody been using either of these with TDM systems > having any luck? I noticed in the M Audio specs it said it was > compatable with MacOSX core audio, do you have to run core > audio for these boxes to work? Core audio drivers can't be used > at the same time as DAE... > > thanks > > Ed A > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hi - So far, I have not had any ESB problems in L7 after a couple weeks of work. Fingers still crossed! I have heard that there are some problems with Spectrasonics and L7, but I don¹t have that plugin so I can¹t verify that. * Dave -- -- David Gordon Composer/Producer www.sequoiarecords.com On 10/28/04 8:41 PM, "ealton04" <edlogic@...> wrote: > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, David Gordon > <music-pro@c...> wrote: >> > Digi1s Core Audio Manager should not be used with Logic. > That will >> > definitely cause problems and could cause a crash. I think > there is a way >> > to tell it not to launch with Reason - maybe in the prefs, or you > might have >> > to remove Reason from its list of supported apps, or turn it off > in Apple1s >> > Audio MIDI setup. > > >> > David Gordon >> > > > David, > Thanks for your reply, after playing with it for a while I was able to > get the same crash without Reason open, and without the Core > Audio manager open. When it did crash I heard a loud buzzing > sound and then realized it was coming from the first 2 ESB > channels. I unassigned then reassigned the channels and the > buzzing stopped. I thought that I was lucky in not having had any > ESB problems like others but guess I'm not so lucky afterall. I > guess the ESB is still unstable, the same thing happened in > both Logic 7 & 6 . The only wild card is that I was playing with > Spectrasonics new Stylus RMX, maybe it's so new there are > some problems with that? > > Ed Alton > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, David Gordon <music-pro@c...> wrote: > Yes, you need to run the core audio driver - I think MOTU has a custom one > you need to install. > > But you misunderstood about core audio drivers and DAE - they can be used > together OK. What does not work is to use three drivers at once. > > You can use core + DAE, or DTDM + DAE, but not all three together. > > * Dave Great, thanks so much for your help. Ed

Hey Ed! Check out the RME Fireface, I haven't tried it together with TDM but it seems to be a great card! /Erik > > > I've been experiencing ESB trouble (buzzing then quit, distorted > sound..) like many others in both Logic 6&7, since all my card > slots are full (HD3 system) I'm looking for a Firewire alternative. > I'm considering either the MOTU 828MKII or the M Audio 1814. > Both are standalone Firewire in ADAT light pipe out interfaces. > Has anybody been using either of these with TDM systems > having any luck? I noticed in the M Audio specs it said it was > compatable with MacOSX core audio, do you have to run core > audio for these boxes to work? Core audio drivers can't be used > at the same time as DAE... > > thanks > > Ed A > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hi All, I've noticed that using Logic 6 with DAE audio tracks has a recording delay, that is not present in ProTools. Why is that? Thanks, Ben

Bouncing the files was not what i suggested. If you FREEZE the files, then play them back in another program and the crackle still exists, then how many things in Logic were involved to make that freeze file? Hardly anything at all. No hardware driver conflicts, no TDM conflicts, no clipping in the audio path. The audio does not go THROUGH anything else to corrupt it. It is kind of like taking water pollution samples from a river, all the way back upstream, until you find the pollution's source. If you have frozen an instrument and the crackle is actually IN the freeze file, than how many things does that file have in common with the original instrument playing back in real-time? Answer: 1. The bus/cable/drive that the instrument resides upon. 2. The samples the instrument uses; 3. The instrument file; 4. The AU component; 5. The instrument object in your environment; 6. The core of Logic itself (not any peripherals like TDM, etc.); 7. The Operating System; 8. Your CPU. So you don't have too many things to troubleshoot. Try these, in order. If (1) stops the crackle, do not move on to (2). You have your culprit, almost certainly. To test (1), try running the instrument and samples from a different drive on a different cable on a different bus (e.g. if it is on external firewire, move it to an internal ATA...) and with no other external devices connected; To test (2), do you get any crackle if you play the sample files in something like Quicktime? To test (3), do you get any crackle with any other EXS instruments? To test (4), do you get any crackle with any other instruments other than EXS? To test (5) does it matter whether you load the EXS instance into inst. 2 instead of inst.1? To test (6) remove Logic and its prefs, and re-install it; To test (7) the biggest pain in the world... re-install everything. To test (8) is much harder, but try taking your EXS instrument and a song to someone elses system - if you still have a crackle, that tells you a lot, but if you have no crackle and you have tried everything above, then you have troubles. And, that trouble is almost certainly called Emagic. Note that BOUNCING the files does not give you the same list, because there are many other elements involved in bouncing a file than in freezing a file which exponentially increases the number of possible problems. There could be a combination of more than one factor (1-8) resulting in your problem, but the list above is about all you can try right now. It becomes very difficult to troubleshoot problems with more than one contributing factor, due to the exponential increase in possible causes. I have seen a similar problem in one of my clients studios, and test (1) stopped the problem, first time. Hope this helps. Alan. :) .--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Axel Rohrbach <axel@x> wrote: > Hi Alan, > > if I bounce the instruments, the crackel is in the bounced files, too. > But I don't know exactly, why that could help me. Can you please > explain that to me? > > Much regards, > > Axel > > > Am 21.10.2004 um 00:57 schrieb GGE7: > > > > > > > Axel, > > > > Do you get the same crackle if you freeze the file using a 24-bit > > floating file and play it > > back from a different program, like Pro Tools? If you do, this > > reduces the number of > > things in the chain that could be causing the crackle. If the crackle > > is NOT there, you have > > considerably more options to eliminate. > > > > Alan. :) > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Axel Rohrbach <axel@x> wrote: > >> Hi there, > >> > >> I got a weird problem since two days: > >> I opened a song I was working with a few weeks ago. I got a Problem > >> with one single sound opened in an EXS. It plays just one note > >> (without > >> any layers or something) with a pitch bend (range 12, blending form > >> highest to lowest level). I played the song back two days ago and this > >> note is stopping with a little crackle (like the voices are > >> overloaded). But I have set the voices to 16 and it shows, that the > >> EXS > >> needs only 1 voice at that moment. No change with 64 voices at all. > >> If I load an empty new song and put the same instrument into it, the > >> same happens. But after a whole new start of the Computer, it works > >> fine. But ... just in the empty song. If I go back to the first full > >> song, the same problems begin. > >> > >> Someone an idea? > >> > >> The Song contains a few EXS TDM (oh, the problem is in a TDM EXS and > >> in > >> a DTDM EXS, I tried that first), a few EXS DTDM and some other native > >> Instruments. There are 16 Tracks of audio and a few PlugIns (not too > >> much...). > >> > >> My system: G5 2 GHz DP, Logic 6.4.3, ProTools 6.4cs9, OSX 10.3.5, HD > >> 3, > >> 6,5 GB Ram. > >> The System worked without this problem for nearly a year and also > >> without it but in OS X.3.5. > >> > >> Much regards, > >> > >> Axel > > > > > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "ativity2003" <me@l...> wrote: > > With Logic 7, I use the 828 mkII for core audio and HD3 system for TDM. > Yes, both are enabled and work . Hi Ativity, How about the sync between core audio via the 828 and the DAE ? (try playing back an audio-file on the native side and a copy of that file on a DAE track; are they running in sync or are they phasing?) Eric.

> Hey Ed! Check out the RME Fireface, I haven't tried it together with TDM but > it seems to be a great card! > > /Erik Thanks Erik but my HD3 system uses up all 3 card slots so I'm looking at an external Firewire to ADAT box, gonna try the Motu 828 MKII Ed

On 30 Oct 2004, at 00:58, ealton04 wrote: > > > >> Hey Ed! Check out the RME Fireface, I haven't tried it together > with TDM but >> it seems to be a great card! >> >> /Erik > > Thanks Erik but my HD3 system uses up all 3 card slots so I'm > looking at an external Firewire to ADAT box, gonna try the Motu > 828 MKII > > Ed > > Ed, the RME Fireface IS a firewire interface, it appears Erik simply used the term "Card" as a generic reference to Audio interfaces Max

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, max hodges <max.hodges@n...> wrote: > > > On 30 Oct 2004, at 00:58, ealton04 wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Hey Ed! Check out the RME Fireface, I haven't tried it together > > with TDM but > > Ed, the RME Fireface IS a firewire interface, > it appears Erik simply used the term "Card" as a generic reference to > Audio interfaces > > Max Thanks Max, I'll check it out Ed

Hey ,alittle fast in my answer there, Ed. Sorry. It is Firewire. /Erik > > > >> Hey Ed! Check out the RME Fireface, I haven't tried it together > with TDM but >> it seems to be a great card! >> >> /Erik > > Thanks Erik but my HD3 system uses up all 3 card slots so I'm > looking at an external Firewire to ADAT box, gonna try the Motu > 828 MKII > > Ed > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hey Alan, thank you very very much for this detailed answer!!! OK, my Samples did work with the system a few weeks ago. The Samples are OK and the Instruments are working in CoreAudio and in other DTDM/TDM Songs without any trouble. It doesn't matter, where I load the EXS in that specific Song (doesn't work either in DTDM nor in an EXS TDM). I've deleted the Prefs already, no change. Installing the whole system would be really hard pain (as you wrote :-) So I think a can skip point 1 to 6. Point 7 could be the answer, can't try point 8 cause I got no-one here, who has an akin setup. What I really don't understand is the following: All seems to be OK. I load the Autoload and use an EXS-Instrument from that one song. No problems at all. If I load the song, the described problems are there. So far, so bad. But, if I load the Autoload again and put once again the EXS-Instrument in an DAE Aux Track or in an DTDM Instrument Track, the stops are also in the Autoload (with just one EXS!!!). I can't see, how the first Song can affect the Autoload. (I hope you understand that, cause my english is not very well...) But I will try your freeze tip and write back how the freezed files are working. Much regards, Axel Am 29.10.2004 um 23:33 schrieb GGE7: > > > Bouncing the files was not what i suggested. If you FREEZE the files, > then play them back > in another program and the crackle still exists, then how many things > in Logic were > involved to make that freeze file? Hardly anything at all. No hardware > driver conflicts, no > TDM conflicts, no clipping in the audio path. The audio does not go > THROUGH anything > else to corrupt it. It is kind of like taking water pollution samples > from a river, all the way > back upstream, until you find the pollution's source. If you have > frozen an instrument and > the crackle is actually IN the freeze file, than how many things does > that file have in > common with the original instrument playing back in real-time? > Answer: > 1. The bus/cable/drive that the instrument resides upon. > 2. The samples the instrument uses; > 3. The instrument file; > 4. The AU component; > 5. The instrument object in your environment; > 6. The core of Logic itself (not any peripherals like TDM, etc.); > 7. The Operating System; > 8. Your CPU. > > So you don't have too many things to troubleshoot. Try these, in > order. If (1) stops the > crackle, do not move on to (2). You have your culprit, almost > certainly. > > To test (1), try running the instrument and samples from a different > drive on a different > cable on a different bus (e.g. if it is on external firewire, move it > to an internal ATA...) and > with no other external devices connected; > To test (2), do you get any crackle if you play the sample files in > something like Quicktime? > To test (3), do you get any crackle with any other EXS instruments? > To test (4), do you get any crackle with any other instruments other > than EXS? > To test (5) does it matter whether you load the EXS instance into > inst. 2 instead of inst.1? > To test (6) remove Logic and its prefs, and re-install it; > To test (7) the biggest pain in the world... re-install everything. > To test (8) is much harder, but try taking your EXS instrument and a > song to someone > elses system - if you still have a crackle, that tells you a lot, but > if you have no crackle and > you have tried everything above, then you have troubles. And, that > trouble is almost > certainly called Emagic. > > Note that BOUNCING the files does not give you the same list, because > there are many > other elements involved in bouncing a file than in freezing a file > which exponentially > increases the number of possible problems. There could be a > combination of more than > one factor (1-8) resulting in your problem, but the list above is > about all you can try right > now. It becomes very difficult to troubleshoot problems with more than > one contributing > factor, due to the exponential increase in possible causes. > > I have seen a similar problem in one of my clients studios, and test > (1) stopped the > problem, first time. > > Hope this helps. > > Alan. :) > > > .--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Axel Rohrbach <axel@x> wrote: >> Hi Alan, >> >> if I bounce the instruments, the crackel is in the bounced files, too. >> But I don't know exactly, why that could help me. Can you please >> explain that to me? >> >> Much regards, >> >> Axel >> >> >> Am 21.10.2004 um 00:57 schrieb GGE7: >> >>> >>> >>> Axel, >>> >>> Do you get the same crackle if you freeze the file using a 24-bit >>> floating file and play it >>> back from a different program, like Pro Tools? If you do, this >>> reduces the number of >>> things in the chain that could be causing the crackle. If the crackle >>> is NOT there, you have >>> considerably more options to eliminate. >>> >>> Alan. :) >>> >>> --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Axel Rohrbach <axel@x> wrote: >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> I got a weird problem since two days: >>>> I opened a song I was working with a few weeks ago. I got a Problem >>>> with one single sound opened in an EXS. It plays just one note >>>> (without >>>> any layers or something) with a pitch bend (range 12, blending form >>>> highest to lowest level). I played the song back two days ago and >>>> this >>>> note is stopping with a little crackle (like the voices are >>>> overloaded). But I have set the voices to 16 and it shows, that the >>>> EXS >>>> needs only 1 voice at that moment. No change with 64 voices at all. >>>> If I load an empty new song and put the same instrument into it, the >>>> same happens. But after a whole new start of the Computer, it works >>>> fine. But ... just in the empty song. If I go back to the first full >>>> song, the same problems begin. >>>> >>>> Someone an idea? >>>> >>>> The Song contains a few EXS TDM (oh, the problem is in a TDM EXS and >>>> in >>>> a DTDM EXS, I tried that first), a few EXS DTDM and some other >>>> native >>>> Instruments. There are 16 Tracks of audio and a few PlugIns (not too >>>> much...). >>>> >>>> My system: G5 2 GHz DP, Logic 6.4.3, ProTools 6.4cs9, OSX 10.3.5, HD >>>> 3, >>>> 6,5 GB Ram. >>>> The System worked without this problem for nearly a year and also >>>> without it but in OS X.3.5. >>>> >>>> Much regards, >>>> >>>> Axel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >>> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

hi list, new member here.. greetings from paris. (hi erik) have just recently started using logic 7 with DAE + DTDM. am a pretty experienced logic user, and I have used logic and TDM combined via ESB before, on a project over a year ago so am not a total newbie.. however.. I have an issue, not sure if it's just me or if it is something that you can't do: have set up my autoload (ok, one of my templates) with a nice big native mixer, and a 32 track DAE mixer. have also put in 8 DAE auxes for ESB-ing the native into TDM, bla bla, it's all working fine. so I made three stereo auxes (for ESB 1-2, 3-4, 5-6) and then the last two mono. that way I have three stereo ins to DAE for my main native subgroups, and then two mono's for times when I might want to have for example a main vocal originating in native-land (for AU plugs or logic ones etc..) before going into TDM-land for further processing. anyway, the setup up all looked good.. but in practice it doesn't seem to work. I tried setting the output of a DTDM mono track to just ESB 7 or ESB 8, but it only lets me choose ESB 7-8, ie, stereo.. irritating! am I doing something wrong here? the DTDM track in question is _definitely_ mono, there is no plug in on it that is sneakily turning its output into stereo. is there no way of having some stereo ESBs and some mono at the same time? obviously the work around is to just send the vocal to ESB 7-8, and mute either DAE aux 7 or 8. but then I lose a mono ESB strip that I might have wanted to use for something else. please don't tell me that this is just because I have universal track mode selected for the native engine, although I do suspect this is the culprit.. I really want to stay in that mode for native because I _hate_ _hate_ working with split stereo tracks on the arrange page in logic.. any ideas? regards, antonio btw.. does anyone have audiosuite plugs working in logic 7? big fat _nothing_ here.

Hey Antonio, welcome! Although I cannot check (no sign of 7 in Stockholm, Sweden yet!), i can confirm I have the same behaviour in LP 6.4.3, and I am not in Universal Trackmode. It has been suggested in eralier threads that Universal Trackmode is not recommended for us TDM:ers see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-tdm/message/18089 I don't know how serious this is. Be good, Erik > > > hi list, new member here.. > > greetings from paris. (hi erik) > > have just recently started using logic 7 with DAE + DTDM. am a pretty > experienced logic user, and I have used logic and TDM combined via ESB > before, on a project over a year ago so am not a total newbie.. > however.. I have an issue, not sure if it's just me or if it is > something that you can't do: > > have set up my autoload (ok, one of my templates) with a nice big > native mixer, and a 32 track DAE mixer. have also put in 8 DAE auxes > for ESB-ing the native into TDM, bla bla, it's all working fine. so I > made three stereo auxes (for ESB 1-2, 3-4, 5-6) and then the last two > mono. that way I have three stereo ins to DAE for my main native > subgroups, and then two mono's for times when I might want to have for > example a main vocal originating in native-land (for AU plugs or logic > ones etc..) before going into TDM-land for further processing. anyway, > the setup up all looked good.. but in practice it doesn't seem to work. > I tried setting the output of a DTDM mono track to just ESB 7 or ESB > 8, but it only lets me choose ESB 7-8, ie, stereo.. irritating! > > am I doing something wrong here? the DTDM track in question is > _definitely_ mono, there is no plug in on it that is sneakily turning > its output into stereo. is there no way of having some stereo ESBs and > some mono at the same time? > > obviously the work around is to just send the vocal to ESB 7-8, and > mute either DAE aux 7 or 8. but then I lose a mono ESB strip that I > might have wanted to use for something else. > > please don't tell me that this is just because I have universal track > mode selected for the native engine, although I do suspect this is the > culprit.. I really want to stay in that mode for native because I > _hate_ _hate_ working with split stereo tracks on the arrange page in > logic.. > > any ideas? > > regards, > > antonio > > btw.. does anyone have audiosuite plugs working in logic 7? big fat > _nothing_ here. > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hello - sorry if Im missong the point here - but cant you just senf the mono DTDM track to ESB 7-8 and then pan it left to go to ESB7 and right for ESB8? I think thats whats I do anyway! Hope that helps Matt

Hello - sorry if Im missong the point here - but cant you just senf the mono DTDM track to ESB 7-8 and then pan it left to go to ESB7 and right for ESB8? I think thats whats I do anyway! Hope that helps Matt

Yeah, that's how I would do it too. I'm guessing it might be different in Universal Trackmode? Cheers, Erik > > > Hello - sorry if Im missong the point here - but cant you just senf the mono > DTDM track to ESB 7-8 and then pan it left to go to ESB7 and right for ESB8? > I think thats whats I do anyway! > > Hope that helps > > Matt > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

> > > Hello - sorry if Im missong the point here - but cant you just senf > the mono > DTDM track to ESB 7-8 and then pan it left to go to ESB7 and right for > ESB8? > I think thats whats I do anyway! > > > hi, thanks to everyone for all the answers.. of course you are totally right, I realised 5 minutes after emailing that of course I could just pan my mono tracks to the appropriate ESB stereo bus. duuhhh.. btw erik - I read that link you posted re not using universal trackmode on the DTDM side of a DAE+DTDM setup. is this causing crashes for people on logic 7? it has been totally stable for me here so far.. and there is no way I'm turning off universal track mode for DTDM tracks! not for love or money... regards, antonio

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: > Hey ,alittle fast in my answer there, Ed. Sorry. It is Firewire. > > /Erik Erik, Thanks for the tip, I'm swapping the 828 MKII for the Faireface800, I'm hopeing the 800 speed will cut down on latency. Ed

You're welcome! I suspect it will! /Erik > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Erik Sojdelius > <eriksojdelius@b...> wrote: >> Hey ,alittle fast in my answer there, Ed. Sorry. It is Firewire. >> >> /Erik > > Erik, > Thanks for the tip, I'm swapping the 828 MKII for the > Faireface800, I'm hopeing the 800 speed will cut down on > latency. > > Ed > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Hey antonio, As I don't have it yet, i don't really know, but it sure looks like the emagic person in the thread is talking about LP7. Thoughts anyone? /Erik > >> >> >> Hello - sorry if Im missong the point here - but cant you just senf >> the mono >> DTDM track to ESB 7-8 and then pan it left to go to ESB7 and right for >> ESB8? >> I think thats whats I do anyway! >> >> >> > > > > hi, thanks to everyone for all the answers.. > > of course you are totally right, I realised 5 minutes after emailing > that of course I could just pan my mono tracks to the appropriate ESB > stereo bus. duuhhh.. > > btw erik - I read that link you posted re not using universal trackmode > on the DTDM side of a DAE+DTDM setup. is this causing crashes for > people on logic 7? > it has been totally stable for me here so far.. and there is no way I'm > turning off universal track mode for DTDM tracks! not for love or > money... > > regards, > > antonio > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

There are only two down sides to the music scene in Sweden, one being that pricing politics has generally kept high end gear in the hands of a miniature and jealous in-crowd, the other that even ignoring (for those who can) prices, technology sweeps including software often find us just before they peter out in Madagascar (or Timbuktu), so Logic Pro 7 is not available here yet (though may be by this time tomorrow, or the next day, or the etc). When I discovered (on 6.4.1, 6.4.2 and 6.4.3; I've been told it is the same on 7) that setting the file recording type to .wav on OS X makes for sonic spaghetti on a Mix Plus system. So the way I discovered that the .wav file type choice was causing the full range noise I was getting no matter what I did (almost: see below), even with tons of advice from lots of savvy folks, including Emagic, advice that uniformly missed the mark, was to "simply" (for a couple weeks) change every single setting in the program from the top of the first menu on down, and when I finally lucked out and changed that recording file type from .wav to .aif all was peachy. It occurred to me at this point that this might have happened before, and sure enough, there are plenty of posts concerning this incompatibility in both 6 and 7. What I'd like to know is why I didn't know this, this thing that seems to be common knowledge, even though I gladly RTFM, yet I have not seen that this incompatibility is addressed anywhere in print by Apple or Emagic, and if this is really old knowledge, how have all TDM owners always (somehow) known to not set the recording file type to .wav. Could we get some voices out there? Little bit of healthy criticism?! Cause whatever it is I was doing wrong to not know this absolutely essential tidbit of info that swallowed weeks of my time (and that of others trying to help), I would like to try to avoid such wasteful errors in the future. One wisecracker suggested changing platform, a criticism of Emagic/Apple I assume, which is maybe not entirely off the wall, even if out of the question for me: I cut my musical computing teeth on Creator in a 1040, and my computer licks on a Mac Plus, and while Creator and Notator were a gas, as were the Ataris (we're talking 20 years ago) nothing has ever come close to Logic + Apple, despite the problems. How many of you ran into this same wall I did? How many of you never ran into this wall, because you somehow knew? And if so, how the hell did you know? Share the wealth! Something I would like to see here, or somewhere, is a repository of info not as specific as this, but with more general advice on how to approach the learning curve, and how generally to solve problems. This is not the first time I have been stumped by a problem that many others had had and more or less everybody (except the stumped ones of us) both knew about and understood. Learning strategies! Obviously I went through an incredible number of helpful suggestions and elegant potential solutions, geared to a problem that was universally thought to boil down to either my PCI-cards, or my interfaces, or my system software, or my Logic software, or my other programs, or my drivers, or my drives, or even my stupidity, and all the time it was due to a simple fact that lots of people somehow knew about but nobody could detect I didn't. I mean agree with here: sounds like dreaming that you're waking up the last man in an abandoned city: is there anybody out there??!!??!! exdc

Hi everybody, can somebody advise me how to distribute my RAM (1,75 GB) for this setup Dual 1ghz G4 with Mac OS 9.2 running a Digidesign Mix+ with Logic 6.4.2 and Live 4.02 in rewire mode. I am not quite sure how to split the RAM between DAE and Logic since i will be needing quite a bit if i run the EastWest Silver Edition Orchestra thru ESB.... Can anybody help? Also happy about direct e-mail reply to me.... Peace, Xaver