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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 at 4:29:38 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Tapedeck symbol continue
Message #16526
This is a reply to #16524.
AFAIK no. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Sojdelius" <eriksojdelius@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Tapedeck symbol continue Wow! Thank you Peter. Do you know if there are other symbols that changes a tracks behaviour? Cheers, Erik > Yes, the recorder symbol is reserved for MMC tracks. > It´s somewhere deep in the manual and yes, it´s confusing.
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From: Jon Cotton <jon.sunflower@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 at 5:58:44 AM
Subject: [L-TDM] Re: loading a song without plugs????
Message #16527
This is a reply to #16525.
>hello all... >can anyone tell me what keys to hold down so the logic mixer loads up >without any plug ins...im having trouble recalling an old mix which seems to >just hang on startup? >I know it exists but for the life of me cant remember.... >many thanks in advance I think what you're after is this: you can start Logic disabling the audio drivers temporarily by holding down control while it boots. AFAIK there is no way of doing this on a song-by song basis, it requires rebooting Logic. HTH J -- Jon Cotton music production and string arranging http://www.stringarranging.com http://www.artisanaudio.com http://www.thehubformusic.com
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From: "Tony" <ramatone@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 at 8:27:47 AM
Subject: Re: Hooked up the Hammerfall
Message #16528
This is a reply to #16521.
Heya Mike, Thanks for taking the time to keep us all posted. I'm keen to hear about latency running this setup, how it compares with an ESB instrument etc. I'm about to try out the RME PAD8 (using the AES outputs), and I'll post my results as well. Cheers! Tony
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From: "godmouth1965" <eriksojdelius@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 at 2:47:52 PM
Subject: OS 10.3.4
Message #16529
Anyone tested it yet? /Erik
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From: Andy Hardwake <digitalmechanics@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 at 3:31:43 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] OS 10.3.4
Message #16530
This is a reply to #16529.
On May 27, 2004, at 12:47 PM, godmouth1965 wrote: > Anyone tested it yet? Works fine here. Best, Andy
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From: Erik Sojdelius <eriksojdelius@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 at 3:54:20 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] OS 10.3.4
Message #16531
This is a reply to #16530.
Thanks Andy, I think I'll have a go. Cheers, Erik > > > > On May 27, 2004, at 12:47 PM, godmouth1965 wrote: > >> Anyone tested it yet? > > Works fine here. > > Best, > > Andy > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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From: "ealton04" <edlogic@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 at 5:57:18 PM
Subject: M Audio 1814 Firewire?
Message #16532
Trying to find a "cardless" way to avoid using ESB, the Hammerfall sounds great but I won't have any free PCI card slots. Does anybody know anything about the M Audio 1814 Firewire interface? It's a standalone Firewire in, ADAT out, 8 channel interface. Would be a great solution around using ESB while not taking up card slots. Thanks Ed A
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From: Andy Hardwake <digitalmechanics@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 at 8:48:39 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] M Audio 1814 Firewire?
Message #16533
This is a reply to #16532.
Hi Ed, On May 27, 2004, at 3:57 PM, ealton04 wrote: > Does anybody know anything about the M Audio 1814 Firewire > interface? It's a standalone Firewire in, ADAT out, 8 channel > interface. Would be a great solution around using ESB while not > taking up card slots. I personally stay away from buying *any* of their products after having a major issue with their tech support back in 96 or 97. Also I've seen many people having problems with their interfaces (drivers making Macs crash every other minute and stuff like that). I don't talk about their sound quality, cause it's totally unacceptable to my ear. Best, Andy
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From: m-organ <morgan@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 at 7:34:57 AM
Subject: Re:loading a song without plugs..?
Message #16534
>> hello all... >> can anyone tell me what keys to hold down so the logic mixer loads up >> without any plug ins...im having trouble recalling an old mix which seems to >> just hang on startup? >> I know it exists but for the life of me cant remember.... >> many thanks in advance > > I think what you're after is this: you can start Logic disabling the > audio drivers temporarily by holding down control while it boots. > AFAIK there is no way of doing this on a song-by song basis, it > requires rebooting Logic. > I shall give that a go ,although im sure there was one which was specifically about disabling plug ins etc...anyone else?
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From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 at 9:29:59 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] M Audio 1814 Firewire?
Message #16535
This is a reply to #16532.
>Does anybody know anything about the M Audio 1814 Firewire >interface? It's a standalone Firewire in, ADAT out, 8 channel >interface. Would be a great solution around using ESB while not >taking up card slots. Except that it would chew up FireWire bandwidth (which might be important if you're recording to FireWire drives and/or outputting video to FireWire). Lee Blaske
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From: "oreillecassee2000" <oreille.cassee@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 at 12:15:04 PM
Subject: Mix system with Rosetta using x-mix card
Message #16536
Anyone using the Apogee x-mix card expansion i'd love to hear feedbacks! Specially with Logic in mind! Thanks! Jean-pierre Brie http://loreille.com
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From: Daniel Cainer <daniel@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 at 1:38:12 PM
Subject: core audio into TDM to avoid using ESB
Message #16537
what would be the limitations with the optical out of the G5 into optical in on the 192 interface? Daniel Cainer
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From: David Gordon <music-pro@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 at 1:55:52 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] firewire bandwidth
Message #16538
On 5/28/04 9:33 AM, "logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com" <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:29:59 -0500 > From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...> > > Except that it would chew up FireWire bandwidth (which might be > important if you're recording to FireWire drives and/or outputting > video to FireWire). > > Lee Blaske Lee - do you know if the firewire bandwidth is separate for each port or if using the two ports together is the same as dasiy-chaining off one of them? Thanks, Dave
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From: "ativity2003" <me@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 at 2:42:15 PM
Subject: Re: Mix system with Rosetta using x-mix card
Message #16539
This is a reply to #16536.
yes. been using it for about 3 months. works perfectly. works well in Logic or PT. took out 888/24. What a difference! --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "oreillecassee2000" <oreille.cassee@v...> wrote: > Anyone using the Apogee x-mix card expansion i'd love to hear feedbacks! > Specially with Logic in mind! > Thanks! > > Jean-pierre Brie > http://loreille.com
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 at 2:54:43 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] core audio into TDM to avoid using ESB
Message #16540
This is a reply to #16537.
Daniel Cainer <daniel@...> writes: >what would be the limitations with the optical out of the G5 into >optical in on the 192 interface? 1) It's only stereo. 2) If the G5's internal soundcard can't be synchronized via its optical INPUT, then you'll have to use the G5 itself as the master clock for you TDM rig. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: Charles Pollard <chaspol@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 at 4:54:08 PM
Subject: Export Stereo regions to Pro Tools
Message #16541
Any way to export Stereo regions to Pro Tools without massive renaming? When Pro Tools Imports the right half, it renames the region therefore disconnecting it from the left half. Logic doesn¹t seem to allow separate naming of left & right regions (.L, .R). I tried disconnecting, universal track mode, etc. No Luck. Charles Pollard
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From: Charles Pollard <chaspol@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 at 6:31:36 PM
Subject: Pro Tools/Logic sync working...BUT
Message #16542
OS 10.3.4, PT 6.4, LP 6.4.2 successfully synced via hardwire midi (same computer). PT sending MTC, Logic sending MMC, 828mkII instead of ESB (synced via lightpipe), core audio tracks & instruments streaming into PT auxes ... BUT, when I activate my Logic control universal (in HUI mode) in PT peripherals, Logic prompts ³No input source selected² relentlessly. MTC loop??? Where?? I was almost there :/ Charles Pollard
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From: "Tony" <ramatone@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 at 3:20:12 AM
Subject: MACH FIVE
Message #16543
Heya all, Is anyone using MOTU Mach5? just wondering how it is working under ESB, as well as any feedback on the sampler itself. (I have a fairly large Roland sample library from way back, and Mach5 is one of the only samplers to read those) Much appreciated! Tony
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From: "spwwuk" <boomtown@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 at 4:34:36 AM
Subject: Re: MACH FIVE
Message #16544
This is a reply to #16543.
I'm using Mach 5 (OS9, PTMix system) and it works fairly well. The timing is much better than Soft SampleCell and the user interface is, in my opinion, much more appealing than EXS. The sample import is useful but not, unsurprisingly, infallible. As with other VST plugs you cannot make use of the multiple outputs. I found that the best way to use it is to set up a Multi instrument and patch that to the VST instrument (in order to make use of the multiple MIDI channels). One bug I have noticed under ESB is that sometimes it isn't possible to expand the instrument in order to view the edit window. If this happens it is necessary to re-instantiate the plugin. For this reason I recommend regularly saving the Mach5 performance for each song. Simon W Boomtown Studio
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From: "jesper_ranum" <jesper_ranum@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 at 11:49:05 AM
Subject: Playing EXS-24 on TDM Aux Objects
Message #16545
This is a reply to #16473.
> Under OSX and Logic 6.4.1/6.4.2 and Accel hardware, this doesn't work. Strangely, for the > Virus TDM it -does- work (instanciate Virus on a DAE audio track - not an aux - , then it > shows up as a port when you go to create a new MIDI track). But this does -not- work for > EXS24, or any of the NI instruments I've tried - including Absynth, B4, Pro-53, and Battery. > They don't show up as ports. So you can instanciate them fine, you just can't -play- them, > except from their GUI. It's not possible to sequence them. > > So then is it the case that under the new Logic there's -no way at all- to hear TDM > compatible soft synths directly from the TDM bus?? That can't be... I -have- to be missing > something. It just doesn't make sense. > Hi there, Create a TDM AUX object, Insert an ESX-24. Play your MIDI directly to the Aux object. Works here. (Panther, 6.4.2, HD Accel 3, Dual G5) Greetings Jesper
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From: "Kevin Vanwulpen" <vanwulpen@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 at 12:40:37 PM
Subject: RE: [L-TDM] firewire bandwidth
Message #16546
This is a reply to #16538.
It's the same bandwidth (firewire is a bus), so the only way you can increase that is by adding for example a PCI Firewire card to your computer. Cheers, Kevin
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From: "jesper_ranum" <jesper_ranum@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 at 11:58:20 AM
Subject: Re:loading a song without plugs..?
Message #16547
This is a reply to #16534.
--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, m-organ <morgan@m...> wrote: > > >> hello all... > >> can anyone tell me what keys to hold down so the logic mixer loads up > >> without any plug ins...im having trouble recalling an old mix which seems to > >> just hang on startup? > >> I know it exists but for the life of me cant remember.... > >> many thanks in advance > > > > I think what you're after is this: you can start Logic disabling the > > audio drivers temporarily by holding down control while it boots. > > AFAIK there is no way of doing this on a song-by song basis, it > > requires rebooting Logic. > > > I shall give that a go ,although im sure there was one which was > specifically about disabling plug ins etc...anyone else? Start Logic without Audio Drivers (Control while boot) Load the offending song. Open Audio configuration. Clear offending Plug-Ins etc. Save song Reboot Logic with Audio Drivers Load the song you saved It's a workaround but it works. Jesper
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From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 at 2:54:54 PM
Subject: RE: [L-TDM] firewire bandwidth
Message #16548
This is a reply to #16546.
>It's the same bandwidth (firewire is a bus), so the only way you can >increase that is by adding for example a PCI Firewire card to your computer. > >Cheers, Kevin Granite Digital is a good source for a PCI Firewire card to expand FireWire capabilities. http://www.granitedigital.com/catalog/pg25_firewirehostadapters.htm Of course, if you're getting the card to use a FireWire interface, you'd most likely be better off simply buying a PCI audio card. A G5, with FW800 and FW400 might offer more possibilities. Perhaps you could run your drives on the FW800 bus, and video and an audio interface on the FW400 bus. Keep in mind, too, that FW800 will supposedly be improved on the next batch of G5's coming out. Lee Blaske
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From: "Kevin Vanwulpen" <vanwulpen@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 at 4:45:02 PM
Subject: RE: [L-TDM] firewire bandwidth
Message #16549
This is a reply to #16548.
There is on the G5 only 1 bus. Although you have 800 and 400 ports, they are all part of the same bus. Also note that this also implies that as soon as you connect any S400 device at all your entire bus drops to S400 speed. This is different by the way than the scheme with S100,S200,S400 where it depends on how you connect it. The reason for this is S800 and above use a different scheme than S400 or lower. So in other words a FW800 drive will not really be using S800 if another device is connected that isn't S800. I happen to develop Firewire devices during my daytime job (my music is somewhat to strange probably to consider making a living out of it :-) ) anyways I hope the above was clear. So if you want to use a FW800 drive and use a device that's not S800 capable (technically speaking S400beta would be ok, but I don't think this is the place to go into in-depth technical background) you might consider getting a PCI card as well. Cheers, Kevin
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From: m-organ <morgan@...>
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 at 11:47:49 AM
Subject: loading song without plugs
Message #16550
> Start Logic without Audio Drivers (Control while boot) > Load the offending song. > Open Audio configuration. > Clear offending Plug-Ins etc. > Save song > Reboot Logic with Audio Drivers > Load the song you saved > > It's a workaround but it works. > > Jesper > Thanks for that ,control it is.... cheers morgan
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