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From: "yudson" <motu@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 1:20:35 PM
Subject: [L-TDM] Re: my ESB TDM plugin is not showing up. any ideas?
Message #15426
This is a reply to #15424.
--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@m...> wrote: > Do you have the Digidesign Stream Manager installed, too? > Hopefully that´s it then... its checked in my extension set . . .v 5.1.1. man this is a real stumper. = thanks for all the replies. no luck yet. there was something in the emagic infoweb about th= e autofilter and tape delay TDM plugs causing this to happen but I don't have those in the D= AE plugin folder. maybe its conflicting with another TDM plug -- bombfactory, waves= , autotune, amp farm, echo farm, nothing out of the ordinary. judson > > > I have version 5.1.1 cs10 direct connect plugin in my DAE plugins > > folder. > > > > overview - > > enabled Direct TDM > > created DTDM objects > > created TDM Aux 1-2 > > trying to insert ESB into first slot but it is not available in the > > list. > > > > OS9.2.2 > > logic 6.3.1 > > mix3 > > > > thanks for any help. > > > > judson
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 2:13:16 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: my ESB TDM plugin is not showing up. any ideas?
Message #15427
This is a reply to #15426.
I´m shooting in the blue (is this English?), but have you set an input definition in the Aux object (e.g. bus 1-2)? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de yudson wrote: > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@m...> > wrote: >> Do you have the Digidesign Stream Manager installed, too? >> Hopefully that´s it then... > > its checked in my extension set . . .v 5.1.1. man this is a real > stumper. = thanks for all the > replies. no luck yet. there was something in the emagic infoweb > about th= e autofilter and > tape delay TDM plugs causing this to happen but I don't have those in > the D= AE plugin > folder. maybe its conflicting with another TDM plug -- bombfactory, > waves= , autotune, > amp farm, echo farm, nothing out of the ordinary.
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From: "ativity2003" <me@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 1:36:50 PM
Subject: Advice on OSX/G5/LOGIC /PTHD3 accel setup
Message #15428
Hi, Am about to switch from OS9/G4 867/Logic/TDM to OSX/G5/Logic /PTHD3 accel. Have been reading various helpful posts here and was hoping for any other words of warning. As in: 1.Should I install new system on a large DP G4 instead of G5? (have heard dicey things about Logic w/PTHD on G5) 2. Is ESB REALLY stable in this setup? 3. Can I expect MANY more (EXS,Kontact, etc) instruments (20-40) running native thru the ESB, AND a high (HD)track count? Thanks for any advice. A
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From: Eric at Rainbow Guitars <rberic@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 2:57:06 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Advice on OSX/G5/LOGIC /PTHD3 accel setup
Message #15429
This is a reply to #15428.
Well, I'm putting that exact system together next week. I'll keep you all posted. E- > Hi, > Am about to switch from OS9/G4 867/Logic/TDM to > OSX/G5/Logic /PTHD3 accel. > Have been reading various helpful posts here and was hoping > for any > other words of warning. > As in: > 1.Should I install new system on a large DP G4 instead of G5? > (have heard dicey things about Logic w/PTHD on G5) > 2. Is ESB REALLY stable in this setup? > 3. Can I expect MANY more (EXS,Kontact, etc) instruments > (20-40) running native thru the ESB, AND a high (HD)track > count?
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From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 2:58:57 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic Keyboard question
Message #15430
This is a reply to #15425.
>The Logic Keyboard has many keys that are waisted in unnecesary functions. >They allocated a key to the eraser tool when you can just hit the delete key. >You should check the Powerkeys (although it is not a keyboard) which >has been the standard for many pros that use Logic. I've used both, now, and I personally find the LogicKeyboard layout to be superior. PowerKeys relies too heavily on the F keys (because there used to be a place to paste a big label on the older Apple keyboards). Now, the only keyboard that even fits those labels is the MacAlly, and it doesn't fit them well (the rounded lump that sticks out by the space bar requires some weird label positioning). LogicKeyboard has every key labeled with two commands (and there are additional mapped commands with other modifiers, too). The molded-in labeling is much better then the paste on labels that seem to fall off instantly. Plus, it's really efficient to have key commands marked and labeled for all the keys not on the edge. The grouping of all the automation controls in one location is also nice. I had an email from PowerKeys a long time ago that said they might be coming out with a new (molded) product, but I got tired of waiting. They don't seem that interested in further development. In contrast, LogicKeyboard is a lot more on top of things. A new key command set and a few replacement keys were available for LogicKeyboard soon after Logic version 6.0 came out. Lee Blaske
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From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 3:03:26 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Advice on OSX/G5/LOGIC /PTHD3 accel setup
Message #15431
This is a reply to #15428.
>Hi, > Am about to switch from OS9/G4 867/Logic/TDM to >OSX/G5/Logic /PTHD3 accel. >Have been reading various helpful posts here and was hoping >for any >other words of warning. >As in: > 1.Should I install new system on a large DP G4 instead of G5? >(have heard dicey things about Logic w/PTHD on G5) Haven't made the switch myself, but be advised that you'll get limited PT track count with Panther on any G4 less than a DP 1.25 Ghz (see the Digidesign PT 6.2.3 compatibility documents). Overall, it's my observation is spending more time working on G5 compatibility than G4 compatibility, so I'd expect G5 problems to be ironed out first. Lee Blaske
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From: Lee Blaske <lblaske@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 3:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: my ESB TDM plugin is not showing up. any ideas?
Message #15432
This is a reply to #15427.
>I´m shooting in the blue (is this English?), but have you set an input >definition in the Aux object (e.g. bus 1-2)? > >Peter I believe the colloquial equivalent would be "I'm taking a shot in the dark." ;) Lee Blaske
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From: mick ritchie <mick@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 3:19:47 PM
Subject: protools d24 and logic osx together?
Message #15433
Hi all Does Logic in OSX work with Protools D24 cards and farms for anyone out there? Ive just finished rigging a dual boot G4 for someone with the promise that they can change over to OSX when they are ready but I see no digi hardware - logic 6 in OS9 runs smooth as ever I assumed I didnt have up to date PT for `Panther - only 6.1 - but the logic site notes on new logic pro - sort of implies that d24/mix is only usable in OS9 thanks in advance even if bad news mick ritchie barefoot studios
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From: "yudson" <motu@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 3:32:43 PM
Subject: [L-TDM] Re: my ESB TDM plugin is not showing up. any ideas?
Message #15434
This is a reply to #15427.
--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@m...> wrote: > I´m shooting in the blue (is this English?), but have you set an input > definition in the Aux object (e.g. bus 1-2)? no I'm not. Should I be? judson
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From: Jan Stevens <riverhorse@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 4:10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic Keyboard question
Message #15435
This is a reply to #15430.
So There Power Keys!!!!! On Friday, February 27, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Lee Blaske wrote: >> The Logic Keyboard has many keys that are waisted in unnecesary >> functions. >> They allocated a key to the eraser tool when you can just hit the >> delete key. >> You should check the Powerkeys (although it is not a keyboard) which >> has been the standard for many pros that use Logic. > > > I've used both, now, and I personally find the LogicKeyboard layout > to be superior. PowerKeys relies too heavily on the F keys (because > there used to be a place to paste a big label on the older Apple > keyboards). Now, the only keyboard that even fits those labels is the > MacAlly, and it doesn't fit them well (the rounded lump that sticks > out by the space bar requires some weird label positioning). > > LogicKeyboard has every key labeled with two commands (and there are > additional mapped commands with other modifiers, too). The molded-in > labeling is much better then the paste on labels that seem to fall > off instantly. Plus, it's really efficient to have key commands > marked and labeled for all the keys not on the edge. The grouping of > all the automation controls in one location is also nice. > > I had an email from PowerKeys a long time ago that said they might be > coming out with a new (molded) product, but I got tired of waiting. > They don't seem that interested in further development. In contrast, > LogicKeyboard is a lot more on top of things. A new key command set > and a few replacement keys were available for LogicKeyboard soon > after Logic version 6.0 came out. > > Lee Blaske > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 4:31:46 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Advice on OSX/G5/LOGIC /PTHD3 accel setup
Message #15436
This is a reply to #15431.
I´m running HD3 Accel on a DP 1GHz Quicksilver on Panther. It´s great. I haven´t reached the track limits. Regarding "reduced track count", well the system is theoretically capable of 192 tracks at 44.1/24, I hope I´ll never need that many. IMO Logic will "only" do 128 anyway. Sorry, can´t tell you much about DTDM performance, I only use that relative litely (say max. 24 tracks), but that works great, too. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Lee Blaske wrote: >> Hi, >> Am about to switch from OS9/G4 867/Logic/TDM to >> OSX/G5/Logic /PTHD3 accel. >> Have been reading various helpful posts here and was hoping >> for any other words of warning. >> As in: >> 1.Should I install new system on a large DP G4 instead of G5? >> (have heard dicey things about Logic w/PTHD on G5) > > Haven't made the switch myself, but be advised that you'll get > limited PT track count with Panther on any G4 less than a DP 1.25 Ghz > (see the Digidesign PT 6.2.3 compatibility documents). > > Overall, it's my observation is spending more time working on G5 > compatibility than G4 compatibility, so I'd expect G5 problems to be > ironed out first. > > Lee Blaske
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 4:33:12 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: my ESB TDM plugin is not showing up. any ideas?
Message #15437
This is a reply to #15434.
Well, try... I can´t help you much more, because Accel won´t work in OS9 and I can´t remember exactly how my system was set up back in those days... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de yudson wrote: > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@m...> > wrote: >> I´m shooting in the blue (is this English?), but have you set an >> input definition in the Aux object (e.g. bus 1-2)? > > no I'm not. Should I be? > > judson
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From: Eric at Rainbow Guitars <rberic@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 4:37:48 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Advice on OSX/G5/LOGIC /PTHD3 accel setup
Message #15438
This is a reply to #15436.
Thanks, Peter. How is AudioSuite working? Okay? > I´m running HD3 Accel on a DP 1GHz Quicksilver on Panther. > It´s great. I haven´t reached the track limits. > Regarding "reduced track count", well the system is theoretically capableof > 192 tracks at 44.1/24, I hope I´ll never need that many. > IMO Logic will "only" do 128 anyway. > > Sorry, can´t tell you much about DTDM performance, I only use that relative > litely (say max. 24 tracks), but that works great, too. > > Peter
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 4:46:26 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Advice on OSX/G5/LOGIC /PTHD3 accel setup
Message #15439
This is a reply to #15438.
Uhh, I try to test that tomorrow, haven´t used it in Logic OSX yet AFAIR... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Eric at Rainbow Guitars wrote: > Thanks, Peter. How is AudioSuite working? Okay?
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From: "The Doghouse NYC" <doghousenyc2@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 at 12:35:47 AM
Subject: spontanious quitting?
Message #15440
This is a reply to #15437.
I am getting a lot of 'try to save your song' errors. Usually when opening a song and hitting 'play'. Reloading often makes the problem go away for a while. Every once and a while a song will just up and shut down with no warning. I tried trashing the prefs. Maybe a corrupted autoload?? A grumpy plugin? Here is what is in the system G4 dual 1.25 OS 10.2.6 LAP 6.3.3 HD2 accell 192 i/o esb uad tdm plugs (anyone ever notice they don't work until you turn them off and back on???) waves rennaisence, NPP vst/au converter Virtual Guitarist Autotune Psp mix, vintage warmer best, Nathan ___ Nathan Rosenberg Music Production www.doghouseNYC.com The Doghouse NYC www.pianoVOX.com
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From: Rhys Fulber <rhys@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 at 1:27:07 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] spontanious quitting?
Message #15441
This is a reply to #15440.
i had a similar problem. I re installed PT 6.2 and it went away. for now. rf On Feb 27, 2004, at 10:35 PM, The Doghouse NYC wrote: > I am getting a lot of 'try to save your song' errors. Usually when > opening a song and hitting 'play'. Reloading often makes the problem go > away for a while. > > Every once and a while a song will just up and shut down with no > warning. > > I tried trashing the prefs. Maybe a corrupted autoload?? A grumpy > plugin? > > Here is what is in the system > > G4 dual 1.25 > OS 10.2.6 > LAP 6.3.3 > > HD2 accell > 192 i/o > > esb > uad tdm plugs (anyone ever notice they don't work until you turn them > off and back on???) > waves rennaisence, NPP > vst/au converter > Virtual Guitarist > Autotune > Psp mix, vintage warmer > > best, Nathan > ___ > Nathan Rosenberg > Music Production www.doghouseNYC.com > The Doghouse NYC www.pianoVOX.com > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 at 7:36:58 AM
Subject: Re: 888 in stand alone with ASIO Drivers
Message #15442
From: michael schneider <michaelduke@...> >1)Can I use digital converters in 888 stand alone mode No, only the 888/24 works stand-alone. >2)Is Digidesign planning or do they already support Audio Units. Nope. Afraid not. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434
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From: =?big5?q?Bobo Mark?= <bobomarklogic@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 at 8:48:21 AM
Subject: open windown as float
Message #15443
sorry..... I forgot a key command to open various window as float. like audio or track mixer. anyone can help?? ====-- Thanks and regards, Bobo Mark Producer Contact: bobo@... For and On behalf of Music 2000 **************************************************************************** May Music Move Your Heart
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From: Jonathan Perl <jon.perl@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 at 9:28:33 AM
Subject: Logic, Pro Tools, Mac and Production consulting and training
Message #15444
I humbly offer training, consulting and trouble-shooting services to: • users who would like to get going, or to • experienced users who need to boost their productivity and get a deeper understanding. I live in New Paltz, New York, and work in New York City, so I am available anywhere within that region (NYC thru Hudson Valley). I have been teaching and co-directing a 4-year training program at the City College of New York for 8-years, and have many years of experience in music production prior to that. Currently I am one of two full-time professors at the Sonic Arts Center @ City College of New York. Expertise in: Synthesis Sound Design Digital Audio MIDI Sequencing Pro Tools systems Native systems Macintosh audio and music applications Emails to: <jperl@...> or to <jon.perl@...>. Thanks. Jonathan Perl Sonic Arts Center @ CCNY http://sonic.arts.ccny.cuny.edu "Make Sound Your World"
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From: Will Thomson <will@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 at 10:03:42 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] open windown as float
Message #15445
This is a reply to #15443.
> sorry..... I forgot a key command to open various > window as float. like audio or track mixer. > > anyone can help?? Not in the manual...? Anyway, in Logic 4.8.1, hold the "alt" key whilst selecting the window you want from the Windows menu. Can't speak for later versions, OSX etc. Will
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From: "sullysounddotcom" <michel.sully@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 at 2:51:54 PM
Subject: DTDM + DAE Conflict
Message #15446
System Mac OS 10.3 Logic 6.3.3 G4 2x 1.25 2GB RAM PT HD (7 Process cards) --------------------------------- My problem. When I play a session with Direct TDM tracks mixed with DAE tracks, DAE tracks stop playing back after a few seconds, and the Direct TDM and DAE Aux tracks with EXS-24 keep playing. It use to happen in OS9 but only with a lots of tracks playing (70 or more), now it happens when I play back 4 tracks or more. It is so frustrating. I expected OSX to be more powerful than 9! Any suggestion?
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From: audiobuff <audiobuff@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 at 9:48:32 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: 888 in stand alone with ASIO Drivers
Message #15447
This is a reply to #15442.
Nick, you are wrong there U could run the core audio drivers for protools and run protools in native though... Markus Enochson Den 04-02-28 14.36, skrev "Nick Batzdorf" <recording@...>: > From: michael schneider <michaelduke@...> > >> 1)Can I use digital converters in 888 stand alone mode > > No, only the 888/24 works stand-alone. > >> 2)Is Digidesign planning or do they already support Audio Units. > > Nope. Afraid not.
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 at 10:07:49 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: 888 in stand alone with ASIO Drivers
Message #15448
This is a reply to #15447.
audiobuff <audiobuff@...> writes: > U could run the core audio drivers for protools and > run protools in native though... Yes, then you forfeit 100% of any benefit that TDM has to offer. However, if you started out with a tiny TDM rig, and stuck it in a hefty G5, then the native horsepower would dwarf your TDM horsepower. If you have MIX or HD hardware, it's better to run ESB. Then you can have both TDM and Native at the same time. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: "jweisbin2" <jim@...>
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 at 9:57:56 AM
Subject: midi problem - stuck notes
Message #15449
I'm having a problem with midi on the following setup: Logic 6.3.1, Mac G4 dual 500 mhz, OS 9.2.2, TDM Mixplus system (2 farm cards), 1 GB RAM, AMT-8 (USB), all latest drivers. Playing lots of fast notes from keyboard will eventually mess up the midi, Logic will send out huge quantities of MTC, notes will get stuck, etc. When this problem first occurred I was using a MOTU Midi-xpress with Stealth serial port and thought the interface was failing. The MOTU midi-xpress eventually died and I replaced it with a MOTU MTP-AV but problem reappeared. Then I switched to USB, same problem. Tried another MTP-AV, same problem, then switched to an AMT-8 and stopped using OMS, same problem. At one point I got rid of "Conflict Catcher" and that seemed to fix the problem for awhile but it has reappared. Most recently did a clean install of OS 9.2.2 (starting with 9.0.1) but problem has not gone away. I can't find any midi loops - keyboard in (Yamaha KX-88), all others are outs only. One of the midi cables is 25' long - could this be a problem?
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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 at 12:53:02 PM
Subject: Re: Re: 888 in stand alone with ASIO Drivers
Message #15450
> >> 1)Can I use digital converters in 888 stand alone mode > No, only the 888/24 works stand-alone. From: audiobuff <audiobuff@...> >Nick, you are wrong there > >U could run the core audio drivers for protools and run protools in native >though... > >Markus Enochson We're talking about two different things: DirectI/O / Core Audio, and using the box as a stand-alone converter with no computer in front of his RME card. I understood the latter was what he wants to do. Smarty-Ass wrote: >However, if you started out with a tiny TDM rig, and >stuck it in a hefty G5, then the native horsepower would >dwarf your TDM horsepower. Has that in fact been confirmed by white-coated maniacs with time on their hands? It would mean giving up Wave Mechanics and Access Virus TDM - two non-starters for me - but that would be an interesting statistic. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434
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