I don't know if anyone outthere is using logic or Protools on Windows 2000, but here goes. I'm using Logic platinum v4.8. Under the audio drivers menu, if I select Direct I/O I have available my Digi TDM mix card. Logic seems to playback audio w/ this card ok, but if I try to record audio, that where the problem begins. It asks me where I want to save my audio file, I indicate what drive etc. AS soon as I go into record mode, a window pops saying something about Logic pla problem. At this point Logic has crashed and the computer has to be rebooted. At one time, I had used the suggested "WAvedriver" from Digi, but this didn't work at all not even audio playback. Has anyone had success recording audio on Logic using the Digi card? any suggestions

> I don't know if anyone outthere is using logic or Protools on Windows > 2000, but here goes. I'm using Logic platinum v4.8. Under the audio > drivers menu, if I select Direct I/O I have available my Digi TDM mix Shouldn't the driver be DAE not DI/O? best, Nathan ___ Nathan Rosenberg Music Production www.doghouseNYC.com The Doghouse NYC www.pianoVOX.com

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I 've been in this group for sometime and I know this is a little outside the normal issues but every now and then I read something non Logic TDM/Digidesign related and figured what the heck, someone in this group might have an answer for me. I obiously use Logic TDM and Pro Tools but this is a Digidesign hardware/ASIO issue. I have a M-Audio Audiophile I use for clients who run Cubase for minimal recordings. It has S/PDIF in/out and two inputs/outputs but no sync clock. 1)Can I use digital converters in 888 stand alone mode with a Delta 1010LT PCI card(has sync clock and s/pdif) to run Cubase SX 2.0 in OSX using ASIO drivers alone by just unplugging 888 computer Cable and then continue using DAE Drivers for Pro Tools and Logic when I plug Computer back in ? 2)Is Digidesign planning or do they already support Audio Units. If so, can I just use 888 stand alone mode with ASIO drivers without buying a Delta 1010LT and use my M-Audio Audiophile that has S/pdif in/out and two inputs/outputs or does the 888 only work with DAE or Direct I/O? Thanks in advance for your help . Mike Schneider Audio Card: MIX Plus Audio Interface: 888|24 I/O Audio Interface Miscellaneous: DSP Farm Digidesign Software: Pro Tools TDM Version: 5.1.2 Computer Model and Speed: 1.42 Gig Mac G4 RAM: 1024 Operating System: OS 9.9.2/Panther on separate drives DAE version: 5.1.1 Logic Version"5.5

I activated the ESB demo and can see the plug in my DAE plugins folder but it is not showing up in the list of plugs on the stereo DAE aux channel. Where can I find updated versions of this plug for OS9? not on the emagic CD or emagic website. Could someone email me the functional ESB plug? judson@... thanks! Judson

I activated the ESB demo and can see the plug in my DAE plugins folder but it is not showing up in the list of plugs on the stereo DAE aux channel. Where can I find updated versions of this plug for OS9? not on the emagic CD or emagic website. Could someone email me the functional ESB plug? judson@... thanks! Judson

ESB only works on the first insert, have you tried it there? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Am 25.02.2004 um 17:15 schrieb yudson: > I activated the ESB demo and can see the plug in my DAE plugins folder > but it > is not showing up in the list of plugs on the stereo DAE aux channel. > Where > can I find updated versions of this plug for OS9? not on the emagic > CD or > emagic website. Could someone email me the functional ESB plug? > judson@... > > thanks! > > Judson

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Peter Duemmler <merlin@m...> wrote: > ESB only works on the first insert, have you tried it there? Yes I'm using the first insert on TDM Aux 1-2. I moved my 6.3.1 install to another location, trashed my current ESB TDM plug, and ran the 6.3.1 updater again. it put both the EXS TDM and ESB TDM back in my DAE plugins folder but their still not showing up. other thoughts? I've been getting miserable DAE errors when running tracks off of ASIO with my MOTU card so I'd like to phase the MOTU out. thanks > > Am 25.02.2004 um 17:15 schrieb yudson: > > > I activated the ESB demo and can see the plug in my DAE plugins folder > > but it > > is not showing up in the list of plugs on the stereo DAE aux channel. > > Where > > can I find updated versions of this plug for OS9? not on the emagic > > CD or > > emagic website. Could someone email me the functional ESB plug? > > judson@f... > > > > thanks! > > > > Judson

Have you activated Direct TDM in the audio setup? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Am 25.02.2004 um 18:51 schrieb yudson: > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Peter Duemmler <merlin@m...> wrote: >> ESB only works on the first insert, have you tried it there? > > Yes I'm using the first insert on TDM Aux 1-2. I moved my 6.3.1 > install to > another location, trashed my current ESB TDM plug, and ran the 6.3.1 > updater again. it put both the EXS TDM and ESB TDM back in my DAE > plugins folder but their still not showing up. other thoughts? I've > been getting > miserable DAE errors when running tracks off of ASIO with my MOTU card > so > I'd like to phase the MOTU out. > > thanks

> Have you activated Direct TDM in the audio setup? yes. I've created 8 DTM objects with outputs set to output 1-2. So when I click on the first insert in TDM Aux 1-2 should it have a plug in called "ESB TDM" in the list? Does it have a different name? > > Yes I'm using the first insert on TDM Aux 1-2. I moved my 6.3.1 > > install to > > another location, trashed my current ESB TDM plug, and ran the 6.3.1 > > updater again. it put both the EXS TDM and ESB TDM back in my DAE > > plugins folder but their still not showing up. other thoughts? I've > > been getting > > miserable DAE errors when running tracks off of ASIO with my MOTU card > > so > > I'd like to phase the MOTU out. > > > > thanks

"yudson" <motu@...> writes: >I activated the ESB demo and can see the plug in my DAE plugins folder >but it >is not showing up in the list of plugs on the stereo DAE aux channel. You also need the DirectConnect plugin in your DAE plugins folder. This is available from Digidesign's website. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

> I activated the ESB demo and can see the plug in my DAE plugins folder but it > is not showing up in the list of plugs on the stereo DAE aux channel. Where > can I find updated versions of this plug for OS9? not on the emagic CD or > emagic website. Could someone email me the functional ESB plug? > judson@... > > thanks! > > Judson Is it logic 6.x? In that case, i think they changed the Esb from functioning As a plug-in to being available as an input on your DAE aux channel. Stefan. SANDKVIE STUDIO Stefan Helleblad Box 1042 SE-621 21 Visby Sweden Tel&Fax: +46 (0)498 49 76 00 Mobil: +46 (0)739 82 75 62 E-mail: stefan@... Web: http://www.sandkviestudio.se ----- Original Message ----- From: "yudson" <motu@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: [L-TDM] my ESB TDM plugin is not showing up. any ideas? > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

At 11:35 am +0100 26/2/04, Stefan Helleblad wrote: > >Is it logic 6.x? >In that case, i think they changed the Esb from functioning >As a plug-in to being available as an input on your DAE aux channel. > In OS-X this is true; In OS9 it's the same as it always was. -- Jon Cotton string arranging and record production http://www.stringarranging.com http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk

hello list, is there a possibility to get a movie on a tft-screen without latency (to use as an additional movie-screen) ? all the cards/boxes i tested are at least 10 frames late.... i also tried one of these composite to vga converters, same thing... pc or mac doesn't matter. thanx & best regards- philipp -- _________________________________________________________ philipp schweidler - department of noize dorfstrasse 36, ch - 8802 kilchberg, switzerland vox / fax +41 1 771 75 45 / 46 mobile +41 76 391 51 50 mailto: philipp@... http://departmentofnoize.com also check: http://asphaltjungle.ch - new album out now ! _________________________________________________________

Does anyone know what causes (and fixes) the 20-30 pixel screen offset in Logic under OSX? I am running a TDM system. Jeff

On 26-02-2004 17:24, "Philipp Schweidler" <mailinggroups@...> wrote: > hello list, > > is there a possibility to get a movie on a tft-screen > without latency (to use as an additional movie-screen) ? > > all the cards/boxes i tested are at least 10 frames late.... > i also tried one of these composite to vga converters, same thing... > pc or mac doesn't matter. > > thanx & best regards- philipp Hi Philipp, There can be a number of factors involved in the video latency but the good news is: you can compensate for it. In Song Settings->Video Settings you can specify in frames the amount of delay for both video on you computer monitor as well as external video (DV playback over FireWire for instance). Use negative settings to compensate for the delay. We have had some problems with this feature (compensating for external video didn't work properly) but with the latest version everything works OK here. You might need to run a short test to determine the amount of delay in your system. Use a movie to which you easily achieve accurate sync such as a count-in or something or, better, create a short movie containing black with one white frame at a position you know. Place a percussive sound at that SMPTE location and adjust the video delay until you've achieved proper sync. Hope this helps, Ivo Quality Quartet Music & Sound * Jacob van Lennepkade 187 * 1054 ZN Amsterdam * The Netherlands * tel: ++ 31 (0)20 4700627 * fax:++ 31 (0)20 4700624 http://www.qualityquartet.com

thanx ivo, the problem is i'd like to use this tft-screen as an additional screen to the tv-monitor in the booth..... means, the logic offset is right for one screen, but not for the other... ;-/ that's why i acctually need a zero-latency solution, if there is any.... thanx anyway, best regards- philipp >On 26-02-2004 17:24, "Philipp Schweidler" <mailinggroups@...> >wrote: > >> hello list, >> >> is there a possibility to get a movie on a tft-screen >> without latency (to use as an additional movie-screen) ? >> >> all the cards/boxes i tested are at least 10 frames late.... >> i also tried one of these composite to vga converters, same thing... >> pc or mac doesn't matter. >> >> thanx & best regards- philipp > >Hi Philipp, > >There can be a number of factors involved in the video latency but the good >news is: you can compensate for it. In Song Settings->Video Settings you can >specify in frames the amount of delay for both video on you computer monitor >as well as external video (DV playback over FireWire for instance). Use >negative settings to compensate for the delay. > >We have had some problems with this feature (compensating for external video >didn't work properly) but with the latest version everything works OK here. > >You might need to run a short test to determine the amount of delay in your >system. Use a movie to which you easily achieve accurate sync such as a >count-in or something or, better, create a short movie containing black with >one white frame at a position you know. Place a percussive sound at that >SMPTE location and adjust the video delay until you've achieved proper sync. > >Hope this helps, > >Ivo > >Quality Quartet Music & Sound > >* Jacob van Lennepkade 187 >* 1054 ZN Amsterdam >* The Netherlands >* tel: ++ 31 (0)20 4700627 >* fax:++ 31 (0)20 4700624 > > >http://www.qualityquartet.com > > > > > > > >UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

> From: jeff rona [mailto:jrona@...] > Does anyone know what causes (and fixes) the 20-30 pixel > screen offset in Logic under OSX? I am running a TDM system. Pull Kontakt out of your plugins folder. That seems to be causing the problem. Also, some people say that if you don't touch your mouse or keyboard while logic is starting up (like to go to another app or to the finder) then it seems to start up ok.

this is really a strange one... you don't have to pull kontakt (or any NI-plug) out of your system. there's a workaround: open the song & close it again - then open the song again using 'open recent' - problem gone! means, the normal 'open' path causes the 'bug' with NI-plugs in your system. >> From: jeff rona [mailto:jrona@...] >> Does anyone know what causes (and fixes) the 20-30 pixel >> screen offset in Logic under OSX? I am running a TDM system. > > > Pull Kontakt out of your plugins folder. That seems to be causing the > problem. Also, some people say that if you don't touch your mouse or > keyboard while logic is starting up (like to go to another app or to > the > finder) then it seems to start up ok. > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

How are you using NI-plugs in a logic-TDM system? Is there a way to use them without RTAS? Are you still using a Mix system or are you on HD? Can either of you give a quick rundown of your setup? Thanks dwf --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, ACaemmerer@t... wrote: > this is really a strange one... > > you don't have to pull kontakt (or any NI-plug) out of your system. > there's a workaround: open the song & close it again - then open the > song again using 'open recent' - problem gone! > means, the normal 'open' path causes the 'bug' with NI-plugs in your > system. > > > > > >> From: jeff rona [mailto:jrona@e...] > >> Does anyone know what causes (and fixes) the 20-30 pixel > >> screen offset in Logic under OSX? I am running a TDM system. > > > > > > Pull Kontakt out of your plugins folder. That seems to be causing the > > problem. Also, some people say that if you don't touch your mouse or > > keyboard while logic is starting up (like to go to another app or to > > the > > finder) then it seems to start up ok. > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >

From: jeff rona <jrona@...> >Does anyone know what causes (and fixes) the 20-30 pixel screen offset in >Logic under OSX? I am running a TDM system. Hey Jeff, it's the NI Kompakt plug-in, possibly Kontakt and even other NIs as well. If you decide to remove the plug-ins, as I did, they're in Library->Audio->Plug-ins. I think you can then un-fongulate any affected Songs by importing screensets from a clean Song, but I could be wrong. Best, NB -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

I 've been in this group for sometime and I know this is a little outside the normal issues but every now and then I read something non Logic TDM/Digidesign related and figured what the heck, someone in this group might have an answer for me. I obiously use Logic TDM and Pro Tools but this is a Digidesign hardware/ASIO issue. I have a M-Audio Audiophile I use for clients who run Cubase for minimal recordings. It has S/PDIF in/out and two inputs/outputs but no sync clock. 1)Can I use digital converters in 888 stand alone mode with a Delta 1010LT PCI card(has sync clock and s/pdif) using ASIO drivers alone by just unplugging 888 computer Cable and then continue using DAE Drivers for Pro Tools and Logic when I plug Computer back in ? Will sound quality be effected by coming through Delta 1010LT SNR of 101dB PCI Card in theory digitally in this manner? 2)Is Digidesign planning or do they already support Audio Units. If so, can I just use 888 stand alone mode with ASIO drivers without buying a Delta 1010LT and use my M-Audio Audiophile that has S/pdif in/out and two inputs/outputs or does the 888 only work with DAE or Direct I/O? Thanks in advance for your help . Audio Card: MIX Plus Audio Interface: 888|24 I/O Audio Interface Miscellaneous: DSP Farm Digidesign Software: Pro Tools TDM Pro Tools Version: 5.1.2 Computer Model and Speed: 1.42 Gig Mac G4 RAM: 1024 Operating System: OS 9.9.2/Panther on separate drives DAE version: 5.1.1 Logic Version"5.5

> You also need the DirectConnect plugin in your DAE plugins > folder. This is available from Digidesign's website. > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants I have version 5.1.1 cs10 direct connect plugin in my DAE plugins folder. overview - enabled Direct TDM created DTDM objects created TDM Aux 1-2 trying to insert ESB into first slot but it is not available in the list. OS9 logic 6.3.1 mix3 thanks for any help. judson

Do you have the Digidesign Stream Manager installed, too? Hopefully that´s it then... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de > I have version 5.1.1 cs10 direct connect plugin in my DAE plugins > folder. > > overview - > enabled Direct TDM > created DTDM objects > created TDM Aux 1-2 > trying to insert ESB into first slot but it is not available in the > list. > > OS9 > logic 6.3.1 > mix3 > > thanks for any help. > > judson

>I recently purchased Logic Keyboard, the dedicated, color coded, >modified Apple keyboard. It changes a lot of the default Logic >keyboard commands, but since I'm a new user, my habits are >not that ingrained yet. Some of the changes I really like, but >I've been disappointed to find that it's Fast Forward Rewind keys >don't work like the Fast Forward Rewind keys in the Transport >Window of Logic. On the Logic Keyboard FF causes the locator >to jump ahead 8 bars even if there's a marker, and Rewind >causes the locator to jump back 8 bars even if there's a marker. >The buttons in the Transport Window still function as they >should, 1 bar forward or back, or to next marker. >I've looked for ways to reset this, but haven't been able to find >a place to change the parameters of the commands for the Logic >Keyboard to match those of the Transport Window. >I've written Logic Keyboard support, but wondering if any of you >had encountered this, and might have suggestions. >Thanks, >Jack Turner The Logic Keyboard has many keys that are waisted in unnecesary functions. They allocated a key to the eraser tool when you can just hit the delete key. You should check the Powerkeys (although it is not a keyboard) which has been the standard for many pros that use Logic. Best -- Daniel Hamuy http://www.powerkeys.com