Hi, Perhaps I am missing something, but I have been unable to find one comprehensive guide to using Logic 6.3.1 with TDM and ESB etc. I found 1 brief old guide for OS 9 but much of what I saw is inapplicable now. My downloads of ESB and EXS24 updates had no read-me on the subject. I have managed to get It working, but I like to study manuals etc.to get my brain fully around the concepts in use. I also would like to see how those with Logic-TDM make use of the additional options and deal with the limitations. If not done already do you guys think it is a good idea to designate a place for us all to upload our autoloads for comparison? Is there a Logic-TDM FAQ that I can download? Where can I read extensively about Logic-TDM configurations etc. My Plug in's for OS X arent nearly what I have for OS 9, I am running in OS X, but is there any reason to mix in on the LOGIC-TDM OS X rig before I buy Great Plug-ins? I have a perfectly Good "Native" dual 1.25 rig, with M-Audio Delta I/O. The plan was to track on the 1.25 and pipe into the TDM rig to mix in Logic-TDM or Pro Tools. What are the TDM OS X "Must Have" plugins now? (other than waves) Thanks topmaktek

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "topmaktek" <topmaktek@y...> wrote: > Hi, > I Have a Quicksilver G4 with a Mix Plus in it, I am now running > Logic 6.3.1 and Pro- > tools 6.1, My OS is 10.2.8. I have 2 issues one major issue is that > Logic will no longer > start... I get to "initializing DTDM" hang, than logic quits. This > system worked fine for > a bit, I stopped using it for 1 month to concentrate on my 'AU' logic > rig while updating > the TDM rig. Now the TDM rig won't boot Logic. (I know I should have > done 1 update > at a time) and I dont know what killed it. Any ideas what will fix > it?? > Also.. > I have a Maxxed out Logic Key with all the TDM options etc..... > shouldnt I see the > EXS24 available in Pro-Tools as well.... I see the EVB3 and the EVD6 > but no EXS24.... > I had an EXS24 plug-in in the DIGI folder at one point but I was > getting an error > message that referred to illegal/expired software and I removed > it.....now I dont see it > at all in pro-tools (as I expected) does anyone know what the problem > is?? > Thanks.. > Tony 3rd reinstall Fixed it, Thanks

In Logic for OSX, there doesn't seem to be any TDM File selector for when you're opening/importing audio files. Is this hidden somewhere? The regular Mac OS file selector won't let me hear audio files. I guess it's trying to play though Core Audio or something. Even if I switch to Core Audio, it works but it's sluggish. On OS 9, I can speed through audio files very quickly, using the TDM file selector. Morgan Visconti human 138 5th avenue. 3rd floor, nyc, ny 10011 telephone 212 352 0211 facsimile  212 352 0210 www.humanworldwide.com

Morgan, To hear files using the Mac OS file selector you need to create a DTDM object in your environment - TDM cant play back interleaved files and it seems other files from the finder window. The DTDM object allows you to listen to anything from the finder window through TDM hardware. Hope this helps, Simon On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 11:15 PM, Morgan Visconti wrote: > In Logic for OSX, there doesn't seem to be any TDM File selector for > when you're opening/importing audio files. Is this hidden somewhere? > The regular Mac OS file selector won't let me hear audio files. I guess > it's trying to play though Core Audio or something. Even if I switch to > Core Audio, it works but it's sluggish. On OS 9, I can speed through > audio files very quickly, using the TDM file selector. > > Morgan Visconti > > human > 138 5th avenue. 3rd floor, nyc, ny 10011 > telephone 212 352 0211 > facsimile  212 352 0210 > www.humanworldwide.com > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

I'd like to share information about using the yamaha console with LAP6.1.1. My system configuration is: LAP 6.1.1 on OS9 - PowerPc Dual 1Ghz G4 MDD - ProTools MIX3 TDM (AD8000+888+AdatBridge interfaces) - Motu MidiTimepiece AV USB - DM2000 firmware v 1.20. MIDI comunication through LAP and DM2000 is via USB, using the Yamaha USB midi driver. The MTP AV does all the other midi stuff (synths, etc.). I've been experiencing random drop-out of midi comunication between LAP and the console, and sometimes strange TDM errors related to that. Anybody experiencing something similar? Thanx Emo

hi there, I'm knew to logic with TDM but I know it from native. I've got a setup in studio with protools hardware(888's ad8000),USD and Logic 6. I want logic slaved to SMPTE code(via Linx Timeline) but i don't know if USD works with logic,Iknow there's no problem in protools but do I have to use a Smpte>MTC box(unitor for example) so that logic receive the code or do USD is compatible? What setup should I do in logic(wordclock is external)? Are there any setup to do (USD or DAE)? Thanxxxxxx a lot!

I'm running logic 6.3.1 on a G4, mirrored front, OS 9.2.2 with a mix-plus system. Whenever I use logic for more than 15 minutes, it starts to slow down: Menus take a few seconds to open and draw, EXS-24 takes a while to open and close, logic stops a while after I hit stop, etc. It behaves like it doesn't have enough ram. But I have 1.5 GB and over 300MB are assigned to Logic and 200MB to DAE. There's plenty of RAM. I noticed that sometimes Logic wouldn't recognize the XSkey whenever I had it plugged into my keyboard's extra USB port. could it be that it's having a hard time finding the XSkey once the program has started? does it keep checking for the presence of the XSkey periodically? has anyone seen this problem before? Thanks. Hector Perez

>I'm running logic 6.3.1 on a G4, mirrored front, OS 9.2.2 with a >mix-plus system. Whenever I use logic for more than 15 minutes, it >starts to slow down: Menus take a few seconds to open and draw, EXS-24 >takes a while to open and close, logic stops a while after I hit stop, >etc. It behaves like it doesn't have enough ram. But I have 1.5 GB and >over 300MB are assigned to Logic and 200MB to DAE. There's plenty of >RAM. I noticed that sometimes Logic wouldn't recognize the XSkey >whenever I had it plugged into my keyboard's extra USB port. could it be > >that it's having a hard time finding the XSkey once the program has >started? does it keep checking for the presence of the XSkey >periodically? has anyone seen this problem before? > It's possible that you have a MIDI feedback loop. Try disconnecting all your MIDI devices and see if the problem persists. If things are back to normal, add one MIDI device at a time until you find the culprit, and reconfigure that device. If that doesn't take care of things, and your computer is connected to a network, try disconnecting it from the network. BTW, depending on what you're doing, 300 MB could very well not be enough for Logic. Try assigning a lot more. Fortunately, when you switch to OSX, you won't have to worry about memory allocation any more. Regarding the USB problem, USB is just plain flaky. If things don't work, you need to move things around until they do. The keyboard is probably not the best place to plug the XS key, because it's most likely two hubs away (unless your keyboard is plugged directly into your computer. I'd highly recommend buying a *GOOD* hub, connecting it directly to your computer, and plugging your XS Key and any iLoks into it. Most consumer hubs on the market are pure junk. Here's the hub I picked up recently... https://secure.nexusds.com/pertech/index.htm I have not had any XS Key or iLok problems since I put them in the Pertech. I like the fact that it doesn't use a wall-wart power supply, and that diagnostic lights are built-in. If things aren't working correctly, the diagnostics give you some clues as to what's going on. Lee Blaske

In Logic OS X, when trying to do any kind of destructive editing in the Sample Edit window (silence, fade out, time machine, etc.) anything except normalize - I get the error "File Not Found Result code = -43" then "Error -43 occured while trying to read or write Undo file" I guess normalize only works because it doesn't make undo files - I turned that option off. Very frustrating. I've got to use (shudder) Peak to do any DSP. My guess is it's something to do with the OS X file system and hidden file extensions? This never happened in OS 9. Oh yeah, the way I found this out was because the Tape Delay plug-in still has that bug where if it sees a region shorter than a certain size it 'hiccups' before it starts delaying. I have to insert a silent audio file right before the one I want to hear. Can't make a file silent because of the above problem... I want to like OS X. I really really do. But... Morgan Visconti human 138 5th avenue. 3rd floor, nyc, ny 10011 telephone 212 352 0211 facsimile  212 352 0210 www.humanworldwide.com

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "The Doghouse NYC" <doghousenyc2@e...> wrote: > > is there a possibility or plans to use space designer with protools > > hardware? htdm or as part of the epic-tdm package? > > Would it run off the host if you are using ESB? Or am I not > understanding something? (I pick up my HD rig tomorrow:) > > best, Nathan > ___ As far as I know this will be Native only till further notice. Your TDM plugs and instruments will run off your TDM chips, Your AU Instruments and Plug-ins will run natively as usual with the option to buss the instruments to TDM via ESB for TDM processing which will draw from your TDM cards.... unless they develop a its a special "TDM" version of space designer. Tony

On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 01:37 PM, David Eager wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 12:39 PM, rnbeatz wrote: > >> On my system I get an error when I try to select DAE, HTDM, and >> CoreAudio in the >> hardware setup. >> >> CoreAudio: >> Hardware already in use. >> (-10204) > > That sounds like you have the Digidesign CoreAudio driver assigned > somewhere. [either as the CoreAudio driver in Logic, or as the default > input, or output, in AMS [or Sound prefs] > Unless it is a quirk of DTDM [I'm just using DAE here, I don't have > ESB] in which case, you could try with just DAE and CoreAudio enabled, > just to confirm. [unfortunately, if that is the case, it will not offer > you a solution] > Just to add to this, I activated the HTDM demo, and can run HTDM and CoreAudio alongside each other OK, but since my ESB demo ran out ages ago, I still can't test that. That still gives you the option of sharing instruments between DAE and CoreAudio, though :) Dave Eager

This happens when record path corresponds to a non existing folder/file. Just press a select a new record path and you should be ok. Markus Den 03-10-23 04.57, skrev "Morgan Visconti" <morgan@...>: > In Logic OS X, when trying to do any kind of destructive editing in the > Sample Edit window (silence, fade out, time machine, etc.) anything > except normalize - I get the error "File Not Found Result code = -43" > then "Error -43 occured while trying to read or write Undo file" > I guess normalize only works because it doesn't make undo files - I > turned that option off. > Very frustrating. I've got to use (shudder) Peak to do any DSP. > My guess is it's something to do with the OS X file system and hidden > file extensions? This never happened in OS 9. > > Oh yeah, the way I found this out was because the Tape Delay plug-in > still has that bug where if it sees a region shorter than a certain > size it 'hiccups' before it starts delaying. I have to insert a silent > audio file right before the one I want to hear. Can't make a file > silent because of the above problem... > > I want to like OS X. I really really do. But... > > Morgan Visconti > > human > 138 5th avenue. 3rd floor, nyc, ny 10011 > telephone 212 352 0211 > facsimile  212 352 0210 > www.humanworldwide.com > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

On 22/10/03 4:48 pm, "topmaktek" <topmaktek@...> wrote: > Hi, > I have a Maxxed out Logic Key with all the TDM options etc..... > shouldnt I see the > EXS24 available in Pro-Tools as well.... I see the EVB3 and the EVD6 > but no EXS24.... > I had an EXS24 plug-in in the DIGI folder at one point but I was > getting an error > message that referred to illegal/expired software and I removed it (I > am all legal) > .....now I don't see it at all in pro-tools (as I expected). Does > anyone know what the > problem is?? It is supposed to be available in Pro Tools isnt it?? > Thanks.. Nope! From the Emagic website, about the HTDM Enabler: "Allows you to use ES1, ES2, EVP88, EVB3 and EVD6 in TDM Aux channels under any TDM/HTDM host software." EXS24 is not available in any software apart from Logic itself. Your illegal/expired software message can be resolved by downloading the EXS/ESB TDM update from the Emagic site: http://www.emagic.de/support/download/esb_exsTDM.php?lang=EN -- The best of times to you all... Pants

Pants wrote: > "Allows you to use ES1, ES2, EVP88, EVB3 and EVD6 in TDM Aux channels > under any TDM/HTDM host software." > > > EXS24 is not available in any software apart from Logic itself. That´s stupid, no? It´s available in Logic on TDM auxes when you have ESB activated; okay when that doesn´t work in ProTools; but the costly HTDM enabler should buy you that feature - if it doesn´t that´s simply stupid IMO. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de

Having a problem in OS9.2.2. A few vsti's (Xphraze, Kantos, Absynth2) consistantly crash when using thru ESB. Having no problems with others (Stylus, Atmos, Fm7,Absynth1,Mellotron). Anyone else ? G4867 OS9.2.2 Logic6.3.1 TDM Mix w/ESB

Logic 6.3.1 screen redraw seems slow on osx compare to Logic 6.1 on OS 9.2.2 any thoughts? Logic 6.3.1 pt 6.1 OSX 10.2.8 mixplus dp 533 1.12g ram Jean-pierre Brie http://loreille.com

I've just moved Logic/PT etc onto a new 1.25 Dual G4 (OS9). Whenever I launch Logic (6.3.1) I get 'Cant find "DAE" program (-9065)'. Anyone got any ideas? I've tried reinstalling LP and rebuilding the desktop but no joy. PT has no problem loading. Simon Wilkinson Boomtown Studio ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/

I feel it slower too, but I'm not sure weather it is my sysstem or just lazy programming... Although it has imporved since the first versions of logic X... Markus Den 03-10-23 17.56, skrev "oreillecassee2000" <oreille.cassee@...>: > Logic 6.3.1 screen redraw seems slow on osx compare to Logic 6.1 on OS > 9.2.2 any thoughts? > > Logic 6.3.1 > pt 6.1 > OSX 10.2.8 > mixplus > dp 533 > 1.12g ram > > Jean-pierre Brie > http://loreille.com > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

>Logic 6.3.1 screen redraw seems slow on osx compare to Logic 6.1 on OS >9.2.2 any thoughts? It could be that you simply need a faster computer with faster graphics card. Beyond that, I don't have the links for them, but there are tweaks and third party software that disables a lot of the nice things in OSX graphics in the interest of greater speed. Perhaps do a search at www.osxaudio.com (or post a question there). Of course, if you disable a lot of the graphics things that use up a lot of processor cycles, things won't look as nice. Lee Blaske

AFAIK you MUST install ProTools software BEFORE installing Logic. Have you tried to reinstall Logic? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de boomtown@... wrote: > I've just moved Logic/PT etc onto a new 1.25 Dual G4 > (OS9). Whenever I launch Logic (6.3.1) I get 'Cant find > "DAE" program (-9065)'. Anyone got any ideas? I've tried > reinstalling LP and rebuilding the desktop but no joy. > PT has no problem loading.

In a message dated 031023 11:44:39 AM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com writes: > Whenever I use logic for more than 15 minutes, it > starts to slow down: ... > ...it's having a hard time finding the XSkey > THis happened to me. Cause: USB hub had come unplugged from AC, so it was running only on bus power, which is borderline not-enough for Xskey. I plugged it in and Xskey was fine. I don't know why weak USB affected the speed of the mac, but it seemed to. (?) -dean-

I experianceed the same issues but I use a self powered usb hub and it works much better. Markus Den 03-10-24 09.07, skrev "soundserfer@..." <soundserfer@...>: > > In a message dated 031023 11:44:39 AM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com writes: > > >> Whenever I use logic for more than 15 minutes, it >> starts to slow down: ... >> ...it's having a hard time finding the XSkey >> > > THis happened to me. Cause: USB hub had come unplugged from AC, so it was > running only on bus power, which is borderline not-enough for Xskey. I > plugged it in and Xskey was fine. I don't know why weak USB affected the > speed > of the mac, but it seemed to. (?) > > -dean- > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Thanks for your advice... Still i was wondering if the coexistence of two different system on a single machine (lots of volume partion/drive) could be one of the culprit? Jean-pierre Brie http://loreille.com --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Lee Blaske <lblaske@p...> wrote: > >Logic 6.3.1 screen redraw seems slow on osx compare to Logic 6.1 on OS > >9.2.2 any thoughts? > > It could be that you simply need a faster computer with faster > graphics card. Beyond that, I don't have the links for them, but > there are tweaks and third party software that disables a lot of the > nice things in OSX graphics in the interest of greater speed. Perhaps > do a search at www.osxaudio.com (or post a question there). Of > course, if you disable a lot of the graphics things that use up a lot > of processor cycles, things won't look as nice. > > Lee Blaske

Hello, I get the "PCI bus is too busy to communicate reliably with the hardware" message quite a bit if I have the movie window open. Almost always will get the message when bouncing with the movie window open. Whats the recommended drive distribution/PCI card slot order for a standard TDM rig when playing quicktimes? I have: dual gig quicksilver os 9.2.2 logic 6.1.1 mix3 in PCI expansion chassis miro motion video motu 2408 mkIII atto single channel SCSI2 card 80 gig 7200 IDE system drive 80 gig 7200 IDE audio drive 18 gig 10k scsi2 (80M/sec) 60 gig 7200 firewire (oxford 911) currently I play TDM tracks from the firewire, native tracks from the 2nd IDE and video from a second partition on the system drive as they won't play at all on the SCSI disk. (before the TDM rig I would play the video off the SCSI disk). thanks for any insight. Judson www.fluidny.com

I would first try to slow down the ATTO SCSI transfers (as Digi recommends, AFAIR 20MB/sec). Have you tried ESB instead of MOTU? Do you really have to have the movie window open when bouncing? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Judson wrote: > Hello, > > I get the "PCI bus is too busy to communicate reliably with the > hardware" message quite a bit if I have the movie window open. Almost > always will get the message when bouncing with the movie window open. > Whats the recommended drive distribution/PCI card slot order for a > standard TDM rig when playing quicktimes? I have: > > dual gig quicksilver > os 9.2.2 > logic 6.1.1 > mix3 in PCI expansion chassis > miro motion video > motu 2408 mkIII > atto single channel SCSI2 card > > 80 gig 7200 IDE system drive > 80 gig 7200 IDE audio drive > 18 gig 10k scsi2 (80M/sec) > 60 gig 7200 firewire (oxford 911) > > currently I play TDM tracks from the firewire, native tracks from the > 2nd IDE and video from a second partition on the system drive as they > won't play at all on the SCSI disk. (before the TDM rig I would play > the video off the SCSI disk).