On 6/25/03 2:08 PM, "logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com" <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Subject: Re: RTAS in Logic 6.1 > >> Another newbie question, but how can I get my Spectrasonics instruments >> (Stylus, Atmosphere and Trilogy) to show up in Logic? Cannot find a way to >> insert them on an audio track. In PT 6, they are just pulled up as an RTAS >> on an audio track. >> >> As a follow up, I can insert the Virus plugin in Logic, but how do I route >> midi to it? > > Logic doesn't support RTAS. You have to use the VST versions. > > re: Virus, you need to have OMS installed and activated in Logic. > Once you've instantiated the plugin, create an instrument in the > environment, and in it's midi channel parameter in the param. box > you'll have a choice of all the OMS instruments available. Choose > Virus 1 and you're away. > -- > This is all understandable, except I am in OSX. OMS is out of the picture. Virus shows up, but how do I make a virtual link to it with midi? Mark Henderson PILHOFER | HENDERSON MUSIC m.hender@... 952.210.4801

that's even easier, you only need to create a MIDI instrument and choose the indigo from within the port menu. kind regards/beste gruesse, marc schlaile ----------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Schlaile Product Director Access Music Electronics GmbH ----------------------------------------------------------------- NEW: Access Online Support Chat: http://www.access-music.de/chat/ -- > From: "Mark D. Henderson" <m.hender@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:33:25 -0500 > To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [L-TDM] Re: Re: RTAS in Logic 6.1 > > On 6/25/03 2:08 PM, "logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com" <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: > >> Subject: Re: RTAS in Logic 6.1 >> >>> Another newbie question, but how can I get my Spectrasonics instruments >>> (Stylus, Atmosphere and Trilogy) to show up in Logic? Cannot find a way to >>> insert them on an audio track. In PT 6, they are just pulled up as an RTAS >>> on an audio track. >>> >>> As a follow up, I can insert the Virus plugin in Logic, but how do I route >>> midi to it? >> >> Logic doesn't support RTAS. You have to use the VST versions. >> >> re: Virus, you need to have OMS installed and activated in Logic. >> Once you've instantiated the plugin, create an instrument in the >> environment, and in it's midi channel parameter in the param. box >> you'll have a choice of all the OMS instruments available. Choose >> Virus 1 and you're away. >> -- >> > > This is all understandable, except I am in OSX. OMS is out of the picture. > Virus shows up, but how do I make a virtual link to it with midi? > > > Mark Henderson > PILHOFER | HENDERSON MUSIC > m.hender@... > 952.210.4801 > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >

I notice the new Cedar hardware box can reconstruct a clipped waveform. I've often thought this must be fairly easy for computers to do. Anyone know of any other plugin (or app) for PC or Mac which can do this? Thanks Jon Jon Cotton Production, Protools and String arranging Artisan Audio http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

Hi, question from a dummy : are TDM plug ins on my DAE folder (OS 9.2.2) able to be recognized if i update to Logic 6.1 under OS X.2.6 ?? Or is it a hard job to order new versions from Waves, Bombafactory etc... Thanx. Raf

You have to get all your plugs on an ilok which will require work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raphael TIDAS" <rafmax@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:56 PM Subject: [L-TDM] TDM plug ins and OS X > Hi, > > question from a dummy : are TDM plug ins on my DAE folder (OS 9.2.2) > able to be recognized if i update to Logic 6.1 under OS X.2.6 ?? Or is > it a hard job to order new versions from Waves, Bombafactory etc... > > Thanx. > > Raf > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

do you mean "it's not reliable" yet ? Did you experienced problems with registering plugs from different manufacturers on the same iLok ? Thanx Raf Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 00:04 Europe/Paris, Scott Katz a écrit : > You have to get all your plugs on an ilok which will require work. > >

It's totally reliable, it's just a chore spending hours on hold on the phone to get everyone to credit your ilok account. I have over 40 plugs for pt and it was hours of work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raphael TIDAS" <rafmax@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] TDM plug ins and OS X do you mean "it's not reliable" yet ? Did you experienced problems with registering plugs from different manufacturers on the same iLok ? Thanx Raf Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 00:04 Europe/Paris, Scott Katz a écrit : > You have to get all your plugs on an ilok which will require work. > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

oups... hours on the phone from Paris (France) !!!....I will double the price of the udates and Ilok !! Thanx anyway :-/ Raf Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 00:16 Europe/Paris, Scott Katz a écrit : > It's totally reliable, it's just a chore spending hours on hold on the > phone > to get everyone to credit your ilok account. > > I have over 40 plugs for pt and it was hours of work. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raphael TIDAS" <rafmax@...> > To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:17 PM > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] TDM plug ins and OS X > > > do you mean "it's not reliable" yet ? Did you experienced problems with > registering plugs from different manufacturers on the same iLok ? > > Thanx > > Raf > > > Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 00:04 Europe/Paris, Scott Katz a écrit : > >> You have to get all your plugs on an ilok which will require work. >> >> > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Hello, Imagine you only have two preamps(Millenia and 1960Drawmer)...a 888/24 and a Ptools 24mix3.( It's me!) Do you think that with those new G5 Macs, i'll us less and less the horsepower of my Mix cards. Do you think that the future is in the native side for the plug ins and virtual instruments rather than TDM plugs ? Raf

not sure, but old pci cards won't work on the new g5's so you'll have to sell those off. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raphael TIDAS" <rafmax@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: [L-TDM] Imagine... > Hello, > > Imagine you only have two preamps(Millenia and 1960Drawmer)...a 888/24 > and a Ptools 24mix3.( It's me!) > Do you think that with those new G5 Macs, i'll us less and less the > horsepower of my Mix cards. Do you think that the future is in the > native side for the plug ins and virtual instruments rather than TDM > plugs ? > > Raf > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

do you mean by "old" the cards older than "HD" ? or DSP farms... I have 2 Mix Farms and 1mix core. Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 00:31 Europe/Paris, Scott Katz a écrit : > not sure, but old pci cards won't work on the new g5's so you'll have > to > sell those off. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raphael TIDAS" <rafmax@...> > To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:33 PM > Subject: [L-TDM] Imagine... > > >> Hello, >> >> Imagine you only have two preamps(Millenia and 1960Drawmer)...a 888/24 >> and a Ptools 24mix3.( It's me!) >> Do you think that with those new G5 Macs, i'll us less and less the >> horsepower of my Mix cards. Do you think that the future is in the >> native side for the plug ins and virtual instruments rather than TDM >> plugs ? >> >> Raf >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

from what I've heard, they'll be new digi cards real soon. so whatever that means.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raphael TIDAS" <rafmax@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Imagine... do you mean by "old" the cards older than "HD" ? or DSP farms... I have 2 Mix Farms and 1mix core. Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 00:31 Europe/Paris, Scott Katz a écrit : > not sure, but old pci cards won't work on the new g5's so you'll have > to > sell those off. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raphael TIDAS" <rafmax@...> > To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:33 PM > Subject: [L-TDM] Imagine... > > >> Hello, >> >> Imagine you only have two preamps(Millenia and 1960Drawmer)...a 888/24 >> and a Ptools 24mix3.( It's me!) >> Do you think that with those new G5 Macs, i'll us less and less the >> horsepower of my Mix cards. Do you think that the future is in the >> native side for the plug ins and virtual instruments rather than TDM >> plugs ? >> >> Raf >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to > logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

I was sure that one day i'll have to upgrade my system !! :-) Thanx Scott. Raf Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 00:41 Europe/Paris, Scott Katz a écrit : > from what I've heard, they'll be new digi cards real soon. > > so whatever that means.... > >

Wait. You're saying that my MIXplus system won't work with the G5s? PCI-X slots are supposed to be backward compatable... Please say it ain't so.

I don't know enough to count as far as the new computer. I do know that I like to be on top of it, so... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric at Rainbow Guitars" <rberic@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Imagine... > Wait. You're saying that my MIXplus system won't work with the G5s? PCI-X > slots are supposed to be backward compatable... > > Please say it ain't so. > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Does anyone know the cost of the Echofarm upgrade from 9 to x? thanks Renie > From: Raphael TIDAS <rafmax@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:26:04 +0200 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] TDM plug ins and OS X > > oups... hours on the phone from Paris (France) !!!....I will double the > price of the udates and Ilok !! > > Thanx anyway :-/ > > Raf > > Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 00:16 Europe/Paris, Scott Katz a écrit : > >> It's totally reliable, it's just a chore spending hours on hold on the >> phone >> to get everyone to credit your ilok account. >> >> I have over 40 plugs for pt and it was hours of work. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Raphael TIDAS" <rafmax@...> >> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [L-TDM] TDM plug ins and OS X >> >> >> do you mean "it's not reliable" yet ? Did you experienced problems with >> registering plugs from different manufacturers on the same iLok ? >> >> Thanx >> >> Raf >> >> >> Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 00:04 Europe/Paris, Scott Katz a écrit : >> >>> You have to get all your plugs on an ilok which will require work. >>> >>> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to >> logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. >> >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

Raphael TIDAS <rafmax@...> writes: >Do you think that with those new G5 Macs, i'll us less and less the >horsepower of my Mix cards. Do you think that the future is in the >native side for the plug ins and virtual instruments rather than TDM >plugs ? Eventually the Mac will be fast enough that nobody needs more audio DSP thus requiring some kind of auxiliary card (like TDM, PowerCore, UAD1). But the first 2GHz dual G5 isn't enough to satisfy what somebody needs if they max out a MIX3 or HD2 rig including whatever native plugins they are doing on, say, a G4 single 1GHz machine. Remember: Even when TDM is maxed out 100%, the response of the Mac is still perfect and it adds no extra latency. To max out a native rig, you have to sacrifice the responsiveness and latency factor. If HTDM plugins didn't add any extra latency compared to TDM plugins, it could certainly mean a many-farm TDM system becoming even less necessary. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

Raphael TIDAS <rafmax@...> writes: >are TDM plug ins on my DAE folder (OS 9.2.2) >able to be recognized if i update to Logic 6.1 under OS X.2.6 ?? No. You'll have to get upgrades of every DAE plugin (TDM or AS or RTAS) in order for them to be OSX compatible. Contact the relevant manufacturers (Digi themselves have upgrades for lots of plugins - their own plus other ones they distribute like Focusrite etc...). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

> not sure, but old pci cards won't work on the new g5's so you'll have to > sell those off. > Hold on here now. There is alot of misinformation going on in this list right now. Only cards that can't go to a 3.3 volt conversion from 5 volt will not work. And there is a work-around. I posted it yesterday. SBS makes an expansion chassis that will plugin to the new architecture and let you use 5 volt cards. Ebay has a bunch of them everyday. Here's just one of several models. http://www.sbs.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.detail&Product_ID57 B&H sells them here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/links/2778.html The prices on new ones are still up in the $7-900 range but you can find used ones all over the place. Better look quick though... Are we straight on this now? Dean Forss Falling leaf Interactive 9807 East Jefferson St Wausau, WI 54403 Animation * Audio/Video * DVD/CD-ROM * * Flash * Web * Instruction * Consulting www.fallingleaf.com 715.848.0240

Hi all, I don't know if anyone could know this: What do you think: will it be possible to start the G5s also with OS 9 or is it only for OS X or classic mode? I have heard that there is a trick how some people also made the new G4 machines (which are suppose to start only with OS X) starting with OS 9. I am working on a G4/867 dual with OS 9 digidesign TDM stuff and don't want to switch to OS X now. Where is the trick? Matthias.

AFAIK there´s no trick, it´s a hoax. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de Matthias Frank wrote: > Hi all, > I don't know if anyone could know this: What do you think: will it be > possible to start the G5s also with OS 9 or is it only for OS X or > classic mode? > I have heard that there is a trick how some people also made the new > G4 machines (which are suppose to start only with OS X) starting with > OS 9. I am working on a G4/867 dual with OS 9 digidesign TDM stuff > and don't want to switch to OS X now. > > Where is the trick? > Matthias.

Thanks, Dean; that's good news. Is there an easy way of finding out whether my MIXplus cards are 5 volt only? > Hold on here now. There is alot of misinformation going on in this list > right now. Only cards that can't go to a 3.3 volt conversion from 5 volt > will not work. And there is a work-around. I posted it yesterday. SBS makes > an expansion chassis that will plugin to the new architecture and let you > use 5 volt cards. Ebay has a bunch of them everyday. Here's just one of > several models. > http://www.sbs.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.detail&Product_ID57 > > B&H sells them here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/links/2778.html > > The prices on new ones are still up in the $7-900 range but you can find > used ones all over the place. Better look quick though... > > Are we straight on this now?

From: Raphael TIDAS <rafmax@...> >Imagine you only have two preamps(Millenia and 1960Drawmer)...a 888/24 >and a Ptools 24mix3.( It's me!) >Do you think that with those new G5 Macs, i'll us less and less the >horsepower of my Mix cards. Do you think that the future is in the >native side for the plug ins and virtual instruments rather than TDM >plugs ? Yes, but I think it's too early to tell when or if you won't still want your MIX hardware. Even G4s are capable of running a lot of plug-ins natively, so that's not the whole question. On of the issues has nothing to do with how fast the computers go: there may be unique TDM plug-ins you find important that don't get re-written in native formats. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

From: "Scott Katz" <scotkatz@...> >old pci cards won't work on the new g5's so you'll have to >sell those off. Everything I've read says that PCI-X is backward-compatible and they will work. Do you know something I don't know? -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Does anybody on this list use this setup and if so have you had any issues with compatability? I have had a hard time finding an answer to this on the web. Apple says it works, Digi says it doesn't. I finally make the switch to X and I find out my expansion chasis might not be supported, forever chaseing technology...PLEASE SEND HELP!!! Aaron