on Sunday, February 23, 2002, at 06:55 AM, Louis King wrote: > All Excellent answers gentlemen......... > > The only one I haven't checked out is the PRAM reset and I'm doing it > now > Just came to mind, have you tried minimizing the extension set to system base? Might help if that's a CD driver conflict or something similar. Best, Andy

>I had to reset the port too every time I launched Logic, but after >* creating an OMS setup without my MIDI interface (MTPAV) in it -only for >use in Logic, as suggested by kind people on this list. >* removing MOTU USB OMS drivers >everything's back to normal. Peter, I have tried removing the unused drivers from the OMS folders, and that didn't help. Regarding the OMS document, do you mean I should just make a blank OMS set-up document with nothing in it for use with Logic? Lee Blaske

Thought some of you (especially Phil and Hanno) might be happy to hear this. Apple just announced a fan and power supply replacement program (parts are free, but shipping is $19.95) to quiet the Mirrored Door series of Macs. https://depot.info.apple.com/generic/index.html Lee Blaske

Each time I try to launch Logic 5.5 on my Dual1GHz G4 with MixPlus and SampleCell installed, I receive "DAE Error -9007 while trying to create Mixchannel". The DAE application is working, when I start it alone without Logic. I tried to open Logic with all DAE/DSI versions from 5.0 to 5.1.1. and I also tested a lot of different Extension settings with different versions of DSP Manager, Direkt I/O Apple PCI etc. without any result. I´ve even tried a different PCI Slot order... Before trying to install the TDM system in the new G4, it was running perfect in my old 9600. All connections and cables are OK. The system itself seems to work, because with Digidesigns´ Control Panel and during Logics´ launch sequence I am able to setup and check the Audio Interfaces. DigiTest 5.1.3cs6 reports all cards have passed all tests. HELP! Where is the mistake? Has anyone got an idea? thanks a lot, Andreas Krüger andreas@... G4 Dual 1 Ghz, PowerMac3,6 MacOS 9.2.2. D Slot 1: ATI Radeon 9000 AGP graphics with two 19# TFT´s at 1600x1200 Slot 2: Card1: Mix Core ->882/20 as Sync Master Slot 3: Card2: Mix Farm ->882/20 as Sync Slave Slot 4: Card3: Mix Farm ->1622 as Sync Slave Slot 5: Card4: SampleCell II with TDM Module DAE 5.1.1 DAE/Plug-Ins Folder: 16-bit Otimized Mixer 1.8.1 SampleCell Plg-In 1.1.1 (all other Plug-Ins disabled) Extensions Folder: DigiSystem INIT 5.1.1 Digidesign DSP Manager 5.1.1 Digidesign Direkt I/O 5.1.1 Also tested with the following extensions: Apple PCI 1.0f1 Digidesign Output Drivers 1.4 Digidesign Sound Drivers 1.4..2 Digidesign Stream Manager 5.1.1 Main Application: Logic 5.5 Platinum OMS 2.3.8

What´s this Apple PCI extension? Have you tried with the 24bit-optimized mixer plug-in? I´m not sure whether the 16bit one is still supported (->working) at all... Have you trashed DAE- and Logic Prefs and DigiSetup? Have you tried to disable your Autoload songfile? Does ProTools software work? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: <andreas@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: [L-TDM] DAE Error -9007, Lamp 5.5, Mixplus, Dual 1 GHZ G4 Each time I try to launch Logic 5.5 on my Dual1GHz G4 with MixPlus and SampleCell installed, I receive "DAE Error -9007 while trying to create Mixchannel". The DAE application is working, when I start it alone without Logic. I tried to open Logic with all DAE/DSI versions from 5.0 to 5.1.1. and I also tested a lot of different Extension settings with different versions of DSP Manager, Direkt I/O Apple PCI etc. without any result. I´ve even tried a different PCI Slot order... Before trying to install the TDM system in the new G4, it was running perfect in my old 9600. All connections and cables are OK. The system itself seems to work, because with Digidesigns´ Control Panel and during Logics´ launch sequence I am able to setup and check the Audio Interfaces. DigiTest 5.1.3cs6 reports all cards have passed all tests. HELP! Where is the mistake? Has anyone got an idea? thanks a lot, Andreas Krüger andreas@... G4 Dual 1 Ghz, PowerMac3,6 MacOS 9.2.2. D Slot 1: ATI Radeon 9000 AGP graphics with two 19# TFT´s at 1600x1200 Slot 2: Card1: Mix Core ->882/20 as Sync Master Slot 3: Card2: Mix Farm ->882/20 as Sync Slave Slot 4: Card3: Mix Farm ->1622 as Sync Slave Slot 5: Card4: SampleCell II with TDM Module DAE 5.1.1 DAE/Plug-Ins Folder: 16-bit Otimized Mixer 1.8.1 SampleCell Plg-In 1.1.1 (all other Plug-Ins disabled) Extensions Folder: DigiSystem INIT 5.1.1 Digidesign DSP Manager 5.1.1 Digidesign Direkt I/O 5.1.1 Also tested with the following extensions: Apple PCI 1.0f1 Digidesign Output Drivers 1.4 Digidesign Sound Drivers 1.4..2 Digidesign Stream Manager 5.1.1 Main Application: Logic 5.5 Platinum OMS 2.3.8

Well guys I have checked everything tried every extension set I could combine ...... Base didn't work tried going smaller than that but frankly It's ridiculous to have to go to this much trouble to install a file ........... Yes I have an IQ over 150 ( of course I still make boneheaded mistakes) and I did read the requirements 3 times all is well Extended format, plenty of room on drive .... started the install form the drive not the CD ....... of course they could just sell a DVD version and one could just drag the file over..... anyway we will see come tomorrow Thanks to all of you and ur amazing trials of installation .... including the USB switcher issue all very helpful but no one wins the grand prize (including me) thanks again Lou

Peter wrote: >I had to reset the port too every time I launched Logic, but after >* creating an OMS setup without my MIDI interface (MTPAV) in it -only for >use in Logic, as suggested by kind people on this list. Bingo! That did it! I made an OMS setup document with absolutely nothing in it, and now everything works fine right off the bat when I launch Logic. no port resetting necessary. Plus, I don't get a crash when I quit, either. Thanks Peter. That tip alone was worth the price of admission to this list. ;) Interesting how, at least for me, Logic requires the OMS extension to be enabled, even if it's not being used. Perhaps DAE needs it in some way. At any rate, it's interesting that developers have been able to keep OMS limping along this long, considering that Henry J. pulled the plug on it so long ago. If it was still alive, I'm sure there would have been many revisions by now. It served us well, but I doubt I'll be shedding a tear when I can finally say goodbye for the last time and move everything to OS X. Lee Blaske

I have only recently come back to Logic/TDM after 18 months on Pro Tools software and was wondering if it is worth purchasing ESB seeing as though many things are changing over right now [OSX, Logic 6, HD etc]. Essentially, will ESB be left behind or will it continue to be supported as everything else changes in the coming months and years? Any thoughts? Thanks, BJ

i heard DC will be continued... that mean ESB will alive.... personally i can't live without ESB.. i have been using PT from ver 1.15. and never want to touch PT software in my life anymore. And Logic implement softsyn, native engine so much better than PT. -- Thanks and regards, Bobo Mark Producer Contact: bobo@... For and On behalf of Music 2000 **************************************************************************** Come! Visit our website at http://www.music2000.com.hk "May Music Moves Your Heart" **************************************************************************** > From: BJ recordings <bjrecordings@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:24:07 -0712 > To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [L-TDM] ESB, worth it? Future support? > > I have only recently come back to Logic/TDM after 18 months on Pro Tools > software and was wondering if it is worth purchasing ESB seeing as though > many things are changing over right now [OSX, Logic 6, HD etc]. Essentially, > will ESB be left behind or will it continue to be supported as everything > else changes in the coming months and years? Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > BJ > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Bobo Mark <bobo@m...> wrote: > i heard DC will be continued... that mean ESB will alive.... personally i > I just read an official statement somewhere on the Digi site that they have no plans to develop Direct Connect in OSX.. I heard they are working with Emagic to come up with an alternative method to to use ESB in OSX... possibly using HTDM....not sure on that one.. Danny

on 23/2/03 11:10 PM, dp9119 <DP19@...> at DP19@... wrote: > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Bobo Mark <bobo@m...> > wrote: >> i heard DC will be continued... that mean ESB will alive.... > personally i >> > > I just read an official statement somewhere on the Digi site that > they have no plans to develop Direct Connect in OSX.. > > I heard they are working with Emagic to come up with an > alternative method to to use ESB in OSX... possibly using > HTDM....not sure on that one.. > > > Danny > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Please email logic-tdm-owner@yahoogroups.com to contact an admin. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Maybe someone can clear this up for us once their time zone wakes?! BJ Melbourne, Australia

On 22/2/03 10:33, "PS.Musik" <PS.Musik@...> wrote: > > Lee, I've had some kind of the same problem. > It turned out to be OMS related - but if you don't use OMS at all? > Do you use "OMS in addition to built in drivers"? > > >> One more discovery... >> >> If I disable the OMS extension in extension manager, I don't get the >> problem on launch. If I do that, however, Logic crashes with a type >> 10 error when I quit it. >> >> Lee Blaske > > I had the same exact problem.I couldn¹t work it out..It would happen with oms without it or builtin and oms together. And of course emagic tech support didn¹t have a clue. Dimitris Blanos ProTools Support Engineer ========================== GearBox (Sound and Vision) Limited Unit 15 Alliance Court Alliance Road London W3 0RB United Kingdom Tel: 020-8992 4499 Fax: 020-8992 4466 Email: dimitris@... http://www.gearbox.com ==========================

on 24/2/03 7:46 PM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com at logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Subject: Apple MD Fan replacement program > > Thought some of you (especially Phil and Hanno) might be happy to hear this. > > Apple just announced a fan and power supply replacement program > (parts are free, but shipping is $19.95) to quiet the Mirrored Door > series of Macs. > > https://depot.info.apple.com/generic/index.html > > Lee Blaske Yeah thanks Lee, I was on to the dealer this morning who ...of course.....had heard nothing about it...........he hadn't even heard of G4noise.com It may take a week or so but we will finally get a fan that is not quite so deafening. Phil Buckle.

on 24/2/03 7:46 PM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com at logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com wrote: > DAE Error -9007, Lamp 5.5, Mixplus, Dual 1 GHZ G4 > > Each time I try to launch Logic 5.5 on my Dual1GHz G4 with > MixPlus and SampleCell installed, I receive "DAE Error -9007 > while trying to create Mixchannel". The DAE application is > working, when I start it alone without Logic. > I tried to open Logic with all DAE/DSI versions from 5.0 to 5.1.1. > and I also tested a lot of different Extension settings with different > versions of DSP Manager, Direkt I/O Apple PCI etc. without any > result. I´ve even tried a different PCI Slot order... > Before trying to install the TDM system in the new G4, it was > running perfect in my old 9600. All connections and cables are > OK. The system itself seems to work, because with Digidesigns´ > Control Panel and during Logics´ launch sequence I am able to > setup and check the Audio Interfaces. > DigiTest 5.1.3cs6 reports all cards have passed all tests. > > HELP! Where is the mistake? Has anyone got an idea? > > thanks a lot, > Andreas Krüger Ok, ok I went through this little dance. I just changed my Mix++DSP up from a 9600 to a DP867. I had this exact problem. Before you do anything please run the latest Digi Test. When I ran Digi Test, one or all my cards failed.......at least 3 times. Why?, because you have to pull them out and reseat them a couple of times. Keep doing it until they pass the Digi Test. Mine is ok now. It's a wierd thing I know. But a few others have had the same "reseating" problem. Also, I was having very strange crashes with Logic upon boot. I could not trouble shoot with normal common sense. It turns out to be a faulty RAM stick. Run TechTool Pro and do a RAM test. You never know it could be just that. BTW sometimes my cards would work and sometimes they wouldn't. I was going crazy and ready to run back to the 9600. Now that it all works it's quite amazing. Now I know how really old and tired the good ol 9600 was, and just what I was missing out on. Also note that I scoured the DUC (Digi User Conference) for any similar problems to mine. The answer was there from a Digi Tech who said "keep reseating the cards until they pass the Digi Test". So there you go, that might be it. (I would almost bet on it) Phil Buckle.

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Phil Buckle <pbuckle@o...> wrote: > on 24/2/03 7:46 PM, logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com at logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > wrote: > > > DAE Error -9007, Lamp 5.5, Mixplus, Dual 1 GHZ G4 > > > > Each time I try to launch Logic 5.5 on my Dual1GHz G4 with > > MixPlus and SampleCell installed, I receive "DAE Error -9007 > > while trying to create Mixchannel". The DAE application is > > working, when I start it alone without Logic. > > I tried to open Logic with all DAE/DSI versions from 5.0 to 5.1.1. > > and I also tested a lot of different Extension settings with different > > versions of DSP Manager, Direkt I/O Apple PCI etc. without any > > result. I´ve even tried a different PCI Slot order... > > Before trying to install the TDM system in the new G4, it was > > running perfect in my old 9600. All connections and cables are > > OK. The system itself seems to work, because with Digidesigns´ > > Control Panel and during Logics´ launch sequence I am able to > > setup and check the Audio Interfaces. > > DigiTest 5.1.3cs6 reports all cards have passed all tests. > > > > HELP! Where is the mistake? Has anyone got an idea? > > > > thanks a lot, > > Andreas Krüger > > Ok, ok I went through this little dance. I just changed my Mix++DSP up from > a 9600 to a DP867. > I had this exact problem. > Before you do anything please run the latest Digi Test. > When I ran Digi Test, one or all my cards failed.......at least 3 times. > Why?, because you have to pull them out and reseat them a couple of times. > Keep doing it until they pass the Digi Test. > Mine is ok now. > It's a wierd thing I know. But a few others have had the same "reseating" > problem. > Also, I was having very strange crashes with Logic upon boot. I could not > trouble shoot with normal common sense. It turns out to be a faulty RAM > stick. > Run TechTool Pro and do a RAM test. You never know it could be just that. > BTW sometimes my cards would work and sometimes they wouldn't. I was going > crazy and ready to run back to the 9600. > Now that it all works it's quite amazing. Now I know how really old and > tired the good ol 9600 was, and just what I was missing out on. > Also note that I scoured the DUC (Digi User Conference) for any similar > problems to mine. The answer was there from a Digi Tech who said "keep > reseating the cards until they pass the Digi Test". So there you go, that > might be it. (I would almost bet on it) > Phil Buckle. Hi Phil, after a night without sleeping I´ve found the problem. It was the 16-bit Optimized Mixer 1.8.1 that doesn´t work with DAE/DSI 5.1.1 With the 24-bit Optimized Mixer 5.1.1 the system is running. Andreas

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@m...> wrote: > What´s this Apple PCI extension? I still don´t know exactly. I´ve found it somewhere on the Digi Download site. It´s for those users who receive DAE Errors on Dual Prozessor an G4 Powerbook Computers. I´ve tried with and without it...no difference. > Have you tried with the 24bit-optimized mixer plug-in? > I´m not sure whether the 16bit one is still supported (->working) at all... Goal!!!!! That was the problem. With the 24-bit Optimized Mixer 5.1.1 the system is working.....thanks a lot! > > Have you trashed DAE- and Logic Prefs and DigiSetup? Yes, of course. > Have you tried to disable your Autoload songfile? Yep! > > Does ProTools software work? No. > > Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <andreas@t...> > To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:24 PM > Subject: [L-TDM] DAE Error -9007, Lamp 5.5, Mixplus, Dual 1 GHZ G4 > > > Each time I try to launch Logic 5.5 on my Dual1GHz G4 with > MixPlus and SampleCell installed, I receive "DAE Error -9007 > while trying to create Mixchannel". The DAE application is > working, when I start it alone without Logic. > I tried to open Logic with all DAE/DSI versions from 5.0 to 5.1.1. > and I also tested a lot of different Extension settings with different > versions of DSP Manager, Direkt I/O Apple PCI etc. without any > result. I´ve even tried a different PCI Slot order... > Before trying to install the TDM system in the new G4, it was > running perfect in my old 9600. All connections and cables are > OK. The system itself seems to work, because with Digidesigns´ > Control Panel and during Logics´ launch sequence I am able to > setup and check the Audio Interfaces. > DigiTest 5.1.3cs6 reports all cards have passed all tests. > > HELP! Where is the mistake? Has anyone got an idea? > > thanks a lot, > Andreas Krüger > andreas@t... > > G4 Dual 1 Ghz, PowerMac3,6 > MacOS 9.2.2. D > > Slot 1: ATI Radeon 9000 AGP graphics with two 19# TFT´s at > 1600x1200 > Slot 2: Card1: Mix Core ->882/20 as Sync Master > Slot 3: Card2: Mix Farm ->882/20 as Sync Slave > Slot 4: Card3: Mix Farm ->1622 as Sync Slave > Slot 5: Card4: SampleCell II with TDM Module > > DAE 5.1.1 > > DAE/Plug-Ins Folder: > 16-bit Otimized Mixer 1.8.1 > SampleCell Plg-In 1.1.1 > (all other Plug-Ins disabled) > > Extensions Folder: > DigiSystem INIT 5.1.1 > Digidesign DSP Manager 5.1.1 > Digidesign Direkt I/O 5.1.1 > > Also tested with the following extensions: > Apple PCI 1.0f1 > Digidesign Output Drivers 1.4 > Digidesign Sound Drivers 1.4..2 > Digidesign Stream Manager 5.1.1 > > Main Application: Logic 5.5 Platinum > > OMS 2.3.8

--- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@m...> wrote: > What´s this Apple PCI extension? I still don´t know exactly. I´ve found it somewhere on the Digi Download site. It´s for those users who receive DAE Errors on Dual Prozessor an G4 Powerbook Computers. I´ve tried with and without it...no difference. > Have you tried with the 24bit-optimized mixer plug-in? > I´m not sure whether the 16bit one is still supported (->working) at all... Goal!!!!! That was the problem. With the 24-bit Optimized Mixer 5.1.1 the system is working.....thanks a lot! > > Have you trashed DAE- and Logic Prefs and DigiSetup? Yes, of course. > Have you tried to disable your Autoload songfile? Yep! > > Does ProTools software work? No. > > Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <andreas@t...> > To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:24 PM > Subject: [L-TDM] DAE Error -9007, Lamp 5.5, Mixplus, Dual 1 GHZ G4 > > > Each time I try to launch Logic 5.5 on my Dual1GHz G4 with > MixPlus and SampleCell installed, I receive "DAE Error -9007 > while trying to create Mixchannel". The DAE application is > working, when I start it alone without Logic. > I tried to open Logic with all DAE/DSI versions from 5.0 to 5.1.1. > and I also tested a lot of different Extension settings with different > versions of DSP Manager, Direkt I/O Apple PCI etc. without any > result. I´ve even tried a different PCI Slot order... > Before trying to install the TDM system in the new G4, it was > running perfect in my old 9600. All connections and cables are > OK. The system itself seems to work, because with Digidesigns´ > Control Panel and during Logics´ launch sequence I am able to > setup and check the Audio Interfaces. > DigiTest 5.1.3cs6 reports all cards have passed all tests. > > HELP! Where is the mistake? Has anyone got an idea? > > thanks a lot, > Andreas Krüger > andreas@t... > > G4 Dual 1 Ghz, PowerMac3,6 > MacOS 9.2.2. D > > Slot 1: ATI Radeon 9000 AGP graphics with two 19# TFT´s at > 1600x1200 > Slot 2: Card1: Mix Core ->882/20 as Sync Master > Slot 3: Card2: Mix Farm ->882/20 as Sync Slave > Slot 4: Card3: Mix Farm ->1622 as Sync Slave > Slot 5: Card4: SampleCell II with TDM Module > > DAE 5.1.1 > > DAE/Plug-Ins Folder: > 16-bit Otimized Mixer 1.8.1 > SampleCell Plg-In 1.1.1 > (all other Plug-Ins disabled) > > Extensions Folder: > DigiSystem INIT 5.1.1 > Digidesign DSP Manager 5.1.1 > Digidesign Direkt I/O 5.1.1 > > Also tested with the following extensions: > Apple PCI 1.0f1 > Digidesign Output Drivers 1.4 > Digidesign Sound Drivers 1.4..2 > Digidesign Stream Manager 5.1.1 > > Main Application: Logic 5.5 Platinum > > OMS 2.3.8

>> I had to reset the port too every time I launched Logic, but after >> * creating an OMS setup without my MIDI interface (MTPAV) in it -only for >> use in Logic, as suggested by kind people on this list. >> * removing MOTU USB OMS drivers >> everything's back to normal. > > > Peter, > > > I have tried removing the unused drivers from the OMS folders, and > that didn't help. > > Regarding the OMS document, do you mean I should just make a blank > OMS set-up document with nothing in it for use with Logic? > > Lee Blaske No, your usual OMS setup, but without the midiinterface *in* the setup, to avoid Logic accessing the midiinterface twice, first through it's own drivers, and second via OMS. -- P e t e r H . S ø r e n s e n PS:Musik PS:Studio Gl. Hobrovej 10A 9550 Mariager Denmark +45 96 68 02 00 +45 96 68 26 56 +45 61 71 96 68 --------------------------- Bill Cosby once said "I don't know the secret of success, but the secret of failure is to try and please everybody".

> Bingo! That did it! > > I made an OMS setup document with absolutely nothing in it, and now > everything works fine right off the bat when I launch Logic. no port > resetting necessary. Plus, I don't get a crash when I quit, either. > Thanks Peter. That tip alone was worth the price of admission to this > list. ;) Good on you, Lee! -- P e t e r H . S ø r e n s e n PS:Musik PS:Studio Gl. Hobrovej 10A 9550 Mariager Denmark +45 96 68 02 00 +45 96 68 26 56 +45 61 71 96 68 ------------------------- Matilde: "Far, jeg har lige bedt en rigtig lang bøn. På gyngen, for derkan jeg bedst koncentrere mig. Jeg bad om at sige tak for alt det han har skabt". ------------------------

lee, >Regarding the OMS document, do you mean I should just make a blank >OMS set-up document with nothing in it for use with Logic? it's possible that simply making a new copy of yer 'normal' oms setup, then removing the midi-interfaces from that copy, saving it and making it 'current' before opening logic may do the trick for ya. (in logic, it's then feasible to 'use OMS in conjunction w/logic drivers' etc). best, dt / splattercell

> Interesting how, at least for me, Logic requires the OMS extension to > be enabled, even if it's not being used. Perhaps DAE needs it in some > way. > > > Lee Blaske OMS is used for things like "Virus" and "Indigo" and other softsynths that run on direct connect. OMS automatically creates a little nodule for them when they get instanciated. So it seems DAE must check for OMS in case it has to do that. teddybut

I'm using Logic 5.5 with PT|HD hardware. When I use "Add file" in the Audio window I get the standard dialog box OK, and I can audition any file OK (by pressing the space bar, or the "play" button in the dialog). However, once I have auditioned one file I am unable to audition any more. If I select another file and hit the play button, the file mins & secs counter ticks over but no sound comes out, and the audition meters don't move. Note this is when adding files into the Audio window, not playing files within the Audio window itself. Anyone got any clues? Ian ------------------------------ Ian G. Morris - Tonewright "Clairvoyant, n. A person who has the power of seeing that which is invisible to her client — namely, that he is a blockhead."

Does anyone have experience using two 23" Apple Cinema Displays with Logic on a dual 1Ghz G4 ? Will it work using the included video card with some sort of adapter ? I want to mirror the same image on both monitors (not an extended desktop). Thanks! Mac Quayle Dual 1Ghz G4 w/1 Gig Ram LAMP 5.5 (TDM & DTDM) Logic Control Pro Tools 5.1.1

>Does anyone have experience using two 23" Apple Cinema Displays with >Logic on a dual 1Ghz G4 ? >Will it work using the included video card with some sort of adapter ? >I want to mirror the same image on both monitors (not an extended >desktop). > >Thanks! > >Mac Quayle Perhaps this would do the trick: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id05 Lee Blaske

Do any of you guys (Marathon style) rackmount your Macs horizontally? I understand that there may be problems with the Superdrives, even with the clips that Marathon provides. I need more room in my Isorack and want to know if this is a viable solution. FYI- its a Quicksilver Mac. Thanks. John Z.