On ¶roda, gru 18, 2002, at 15:55 MOFFY@... yahoogroups.com wrote: > > Pussy pants-the "what's up with your signature then?" was not my > response-it > was quoted from someone else..but enough of this "clever" banter...I > still > don't have any meters and have found myself suffering fools poorly.. Merry Xmas, don't you think it's better not to let in DUC's "ProTools Troubleshooting" air of contempt, mistrust, disinformation, spite, etc. ? I find DUC and other lists becoming more and more aggressive.... >> found myself suffering fools poorly.. me too ... think about it. We ALL have mind-numbing problems with our rigs. Koko

From: Juanje Luzardo <jluzardo@...> >Does Digi 002 works with Logic Audio Platinum 5.5? Not on a Mac. They're working on CoreAudio (OS X) drivers for it, but no Mac ASIO driver. There's a Windows ASIO driver, but that's only to use it as a sound card - the control surface is only for Pro Tools LE. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, fax -5434, cell 818/601-4874

In a message dated 12/18/02 10:46:52 AM, postmeridiana@... writes: << On ¶roda, gru 18, 2002, at 15:55 MOFFY@... yahoogroups.com wrote: > > Pussy pants-the "what's up with your signature then?" was not my > response-it > was quoted from someone else..but enough of this "clever" banter...I > still > don't have any meters and have found myself suffering fools poorly.. Merry Xmas, don't you think it's better not to let in DUC's "ProTools Troubleshooting" air of contempt, mistrust, disinformation, spite, etc. ? I find DUC and other lists becoming more and more aggressive.... >> found myself suffering fools poorly.. me too ... think about it. We ALL have mind-numbing problems with our rigs. Koko << Point well taken,,,,,My apologies to all concerned..........Moffy

> > In a message dated 12/18/02 10:46:52 AM, postmeridiana@... > writes > : > > << > > On ¶roda, gru 18, 2002, at 15:55 MOFFY@... yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > > > > > Pussy pants-the "what's up with your signature then?" was not my > > > response-it > > > was quoted from someone else..but enough of this "clever" banter...I > > > still > > > don't have any meters and have found myself suffering fools poorly.. > > > Merry Xmas, > > > don't you think it's better not to let in DUC's "ProTools > > Troubleshooting" air of contempt, mistrust, disinformation, spite, etc. > > ? > > I find DUC and other lists becoming more and more aggressive.... > > > >> found myself suffering fools poorly.. > > > me too ... think about > > it. > > We ALL have mind-numbing problems with our rigs. > > > Koko > > > << > > Point well taken,,,,,My apologies to all concerned..........Moffy > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen!

Hi - I'm going to try something I haven't done, and hope I won't run into problems. I've scored a short film and have agreed to mix music dialog and sfx in my writing room. I've decided to do it in Logic, as I am getting rusty with ProTools. So I have he following concerns: * importing OMF-the audio for the project will come to me as an OMF from Finall Cut. I did a small test, and it seems to work fine in a small test. * Surround mixing-just set up a 5.1 environment in my writing room, and hope that this will not make for problems. I will work only with audio files, not MIDI, or soft synths in this final assembly and mix file. * QT Video - I've put my digitized video on both fast SCSI and fast FW drives. They seem about the same to me on my system. the problem that comes up is this-after a while the video starts to slow down to just a few frames per second. I am careful not to overlap the movie indow over any scrolling windows, and still it slows down. One thought is this - if I work entirely in TDM it will not tax the CPU and slow down the video. Yes? Any experiences, good or bad, are appreciated. Jeff Rona -------------------- Be, Hear, Now jrona@... --------------------

On Thursday, December 19, 2002, at 04:20 PM, Jeff Rona wrote: > * Surround mixing-just set up a 5.1 environment in my writing room, > and hope that this will not make for problems. I will work only with > audio files, not MIDI, or soft synths in this final assembly and mix > file. > Last time I worked on a surround mix in Logic I had problems with bus sends mysteriously changing from post fader to pre fader. Once the bus send was "tweaked" it would revert back to post fader operation. Very disconcerting as I could not predict when this would happen. I haven't tried a surround mix for a few months now so maybe this situation has improved in Logic. I believe I noticed this when 5.1 and 5.2 were around. > * QT Video - I've put my digitized video on both fast SCSI and fast FW > drives. They seem about the same to me on my system. the problem that > comes up is this-after a while the video starts to slow down to just a > few frames per second. I am careful not to overlap the movie indow > over any scrolling windows, and still it slows down. One thought is > this - if I work entirely in TDM it will not tax the CPU and slow down > the video. Yes? Jeff, do yourself a favour and get a second (older) Mac and put Virtual VTR in it. It works like a charm. Say goodbye to all PCI bus problems and drift and low rez images. And now that Logic sends out continuous MMC it's even better. > -------- Edmund Eagan www.twelfthroot.com

> > At 1:45a +0000 2002.12.19, vmhlpvntqzke <vmhlpvntqzke@...> wrote: >> http://www.geocities.com/[x]/index.html >> > > Apologies, but where are the admins for L-TDM? There's no reason this > spammer should be repeatedly spewing on us (Management, Messages, > Posting and Archives, Moderation = New members). > > G We could precautiously block new accounts from @yahoo.spam Happy Holidays pan

I'm working with tdm, logic and quicktime movies on top of logic; everything is working great, and timing is perfect. Slowing down happens when usign DTdm tracks with esb, but the timing is still good, with some lost frames. I'm running movie from the same Hd where i keep audio tracks ( internal Ide 80mb,7200 rpm). My advice is to compress movie using sorenson video( best quality with small data rate), and not to use mpeg 1 video, that can cause freeze audio. ciao marco

> posted December 15, 2002 12:42 PM >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >---------- >Hi! >I have replaced my 9600 with a new DP 1250 G4 but eveytime I try to >load Logic I get these two messages: >TDM Error 9007 while trying to create mix channel >and >TDM Error 7204 while trying to create mix channel >DSP Farm is probably maxed out >I have tried everything I can conme to think of. different DAE/DSI >versions, the digidest showed everything was ok. >please help! >Lion Take a look at Logics Audio Hardware prefs. Under DAE, You might have 64 tracks mode enabled. Logic does that for You, when You start with a new prefs file. Good luck, -- Marcus http://www.two-is-one.com "Qualität kommt von Qual." --Hans Peter Wodarz

Hello I have ES2 running through DTDM / ESB, and since doing the v5.5 update it seems to take ages for the preset list to appear having clicked on the little down arrow. I dont think it did this in v5.3. This is a bit of a pain - anyone got a work around? I dont think you can assign a key command to previous/next preset either... Thanks Matt

Two things. 1) If I do not select sample accurate automation preference in Logic I get up to one second delay between what I draw in the arrange and what I'm actually hearing coming off my PTHD. Unless I'm doing something wrong here, how can this even be an OPTION? 2) When a selection loops back to the start, the automation data wont chase unless I place an automation node at the start of the loop selection. Basically the automation does not chase on loop only on normal play. I feel like I'm back in the old ADAT days here. What am I doing wrong? The midi automation in 4.0 never had these sync and chase issues that I'm having now. And it is kind of scary to think I'm sitting on about 30 000 EURO of basic soft and Hardware and have the feeling that I really cant trust all this stuff to do EXACTLY what I ask it to...... Any help much appreciated Peter

Hi all Folks using Logic with the PTHD extension: have any of the faults that were initially reported been sorted out? What's the verdict at this stage, does HD work well with Logic? as well as Mix does? Merry Christmas all -- Jon Cotton production, protools and string arranging Artisan Audio / Artisan Records http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

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> never had these sync and chase issues that > I'm having now. And it is kind of scary to think I'm sitting on about > 30 000 EURO of basic soft and Hardware and have the feeling that I > really cant trust all this stuff to do EXACTLY what I ask it to...... You're not alone!

Ho Jon: Isn't too much different from day 1. -- Thanks and regards, Bobo Mark Producer Contact: bobo@... For and On behalf of Music 2000 **************************************************************************** Come! Visit our website at http://www.music2000.com.hk "May Music Moves Your Heart" **************************************************************************** > From: Jon Cotton <jon.sunflower@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:09:51 +0000 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, daw-mac@egroups.com > Subject: [L-TDM] Logic HD extension working now? > > Hi all > > Folks using Logic with the PTHD extension: have any of the faults > that were initially reported been sorted out? > > What's the verdict at this stage, does HD work well with Logic? as > well as Mix does? > > > Merry Christmas all > -- > Jon Cotton > > production, protools and string arranging > > Artisan Audio / Artisan Records > http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

no midi. just audio. can anyone provide me with the steps to do this? cheers. regards harry m: 07956 583 221 -----Original Message----- From: Lachlan Deck [mailto:ldeck@...] Sent: 22 December 2002 23:15 To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] confused about vst and mac osx-REPOST Hi there, "mike_harper98 <mike_harper98@h...>" <mike_harper98@h...> wrote: > i am somewhat confused by the info concerning vst, osx and logic ( > i am a pc logic user considering crossgrading, so i have been totally > out of the loop on the osx thing). anyhow i understand it that vst > will not work ?? VST is not supported by _logic_ in OS X... > is that correct? Yep. > if so, why in the world would you > disable soemthing that works for something in develpoment( AU)?? VST support was/is there in the OS 9 version of Logic, yes. That works. It is a misunderstanding however to assume that because it works in OS 9 that it automatically works in the OS X version of Logic and that somehow they could've included its support without any work. Simply put - both would have required development. Now as to why they would drop VST support......this has been mentioned numerous times before - the documentation for *host* developers (as distinct from plugin developers) was never complete and Emagic apparently had to figure many things out by experimentation. Steinberg as a competitor would always want VST to work better in Steinberg products than anyone elses whereas Apple wants AU to work just as good in any application. Also developers on this list have stated that things will be better with AU... > will it ever work, with VST - I doubt it. > are there any work arounds?? Using AU. Actually I'd imagine that because of the way that OS X works and thus Logic, that any app that could act as a midi port to Logic (i.e., so you can send from logic midi messages and receive messages back) that an external app that supports VSTi could do the trick... > thanks > mike with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@... GROUP BUY for PSP Delay Pack (PSP42 and PSP84) from now until Dec. 25th! Visit http://www.carrollsweb.com/sadus/LUG/psp.html for info. ____________________________________________________________ Logic Users Group ... FAQ: http://www.belway.com/lug/ UNSUBSCRIBE: send a blank email to logic-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com OT:send Off Topic replies & Way Off Topic posts to logic-ot@yahoogroups.com SUBJECTS: include an abbreviation (CROSS/GEN/LAM/LAW/LC/OT) in all posts. QUOTES: please trim your quotes as much as possible and put comments below. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

harry@... writes: >no midi. just audio. can anyone provide me with the steps to do this? Consult your manuals regarding OMF import and export. It's a long story that depends on a few factors at the Logic end and the ProTools end of things. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

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Hello everybody :) I know that I am on the TDM list (I use a TDM rig at the studio),but I need the advice from the Logic experts here,thank you very much I usually use my PB G4 800 (OS 9.2.2) with the Emagic EMI 2/6 with no problems.Actually,i am far away from home and i need to finish my edits with Logic Audio in MAC AV mode before going back to studio and finish the record:But as soon as I press play the computer freeze (with only audio files,even with one audio file !) I tried trashing the preferences,changing the memory settings... with no results ! Did anybody experienced the same problem here ? Can you enlighten me,the stress is growing ! Thank you very much ! cheers lino

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Just a guess... Did you check the Mac AV driver and uncheck the ASIO driver in the audio drivers menu? Merry X-mas Fredrik --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "lino03fr <lino@n...>" <lino@n...> wrote: > Hello everybody :) I know that I am on the TDM list (I use a TDM rig > at the studio),but I need the advice from the Logic experts > here,thank you very much > I usually use my PB G4 800 (OS 9.2.2) with the Emagic EMI 2/6 with no > problems.Actually,i am far away from home and i need to finish my > edits with Logic Audio in MAC AV mode before going back to studio and > finish the record:But as soon as I press play the computer freeze > (with only audio files,even with one audio file !) > I tried trashing the preferences,changing the memory settings... > with no results ! > Did anybody experienced the same problem here ? > Can you enlighten me,the stress is growing ! > Thank you very much ! > cheers > lino

Hey Folks, Merry Christmas. So I have PTHDIII. WHen I first installed the hardware worked fine until I started getting "TDM Ribbon not connected" Messages. These persisted regardless of reinstalling the hardware. Interestingly, if I ran digitest the whole system would boot fine even though a card would fail. So, eventually, after exhausting every possibility Digi took the card back and replaced it. It worked for a few months and now is doing exactly the same thing again!-When rebooting I HAVE to run digitest or the software thinks a cable is faulty. Any ideas? Peace and thanks......Lon

i was with a music editor friend talking about hard drives. my removable SCSI drives (Glyph) are misbehaving, and I was thinking of getting off of SCSI alltogether and going with FireWire instead. he still uses SCSI for online drives and a FireWire drive for back ups. He bought this cool enclousure from Granite Digital - a removable FireWire drive bay that you can buy any IDE drive, pop it into the removable 'pod' and use it with an Oxford 911 chipset, etc. So we ran the ATTO disk benchmark on his intermal Mac drive, SCSI drive, and the removable FireWire drive. Well, the internal Mac drive was the fastest by far - not a big surprise. But the Slowest was the SCSI drive, about 10% slower than the FireWire drive. This WAS a surprise, as he claims to have played ProTools sessions on the SCSI that wouldn't play on the FW without slow disk DAE errors. i'm probably a bit less demanding than him sa far as tracks and drives go - he'll play back dozens of tracks at 96K. what is the conventional wisdom here? jeff rona --------------- Be, Hear, Now jrona@... www.jeffrona.com ---------------

jeff rona wrote: >i was with a music editor friend talking about hard drives. my removable >SCSI drives (Glyph) are misbehaving, and I was thinking of getting off of >SCSI alltogether and going with FireWire instead. he still uses SCSI for >online drives and a FireWire drive for back ups. He bought this cool >enclousure from Granite Digital - a removable FireWire drive bay that you >can buy any IDE drive, pop it into the removable 'pod' and use it with an >Oxford 911 chipset, etc. > > So we ran the ATTO disk benchmark on his intermal Mac drive, SCSI drive, >and the removable FireWire drive. Well, the internal Mac drive was the >fastest by far - not a big surprise. But the Slowest was the SCSI drive, >about 10% slower than the FireWire drive. This WAS a surprise, as he claims >to have played ProTools sessions on the SCSI that wouldn't play on the FW >without slow disk DAE errors. > > i'm probably a bit less demanding than him sa far as tracks and drives go >- he'll play back dozens of tracks at 96K. what is the conventional wisdom >here? I'm using internal ATA drives on my DP mirrored door Mac (which has three ATA busses, one for removables, an ATA 100 bus and an ATA 66 bus). You can put four HD's in these machines, and I added three 120 GB WD1200JB's (jumbo 8 MB cache). They work very well. I'm also Granite Digital enclosures with WD800JB's, and they also work very well. The PT HD cards are enormously improved in PCI bus handling, and I never get any of the -6042 error problems I used to get with my old Mix system when mixing data from different busses. So far, I have yet to really torture test this system. At this point, I can't imagine any need for SCSI with the type of work I do. Keep in mind that the next generation of Macs will probably have the 1394b 800 mbps Firewire, using drives with the Oxford 922 bridge. As far as slow performance with Firewire goes, you might run into some issues with drives that are really loaded up with data. Personally, even though I've got big drives, I spread my sessions out between different drives and don't leave insane amounts of data from completed projects on my drives, so they're never that full. I've got close to a Terrabyte of storage on line (drives are so damned cheap these days), and that's a LOT of storage. I can't remember my calculations exactly, but I figured it out once that an 80 GB drive running in a 48k 24 bit system could store the equivalent of about 28 reels of 24 track 2 inch tape running at 30 ips. That's a LOT, and I don't think most of us are that prolific. In my book, once you've filled your Mac up with ATA drives, high quality Granite Digital enclosures with Western Digital drives (with the JB, jumbo cache suffix) are the ticket. BTW, www.newegg.com always seems to have great prices on WD drives. Lee Blaske