same with me. permanently heavy crashes. though randomly. tried everything. no idea. andreas > To all people using tdm hardware, please avoid 5.2 as it crashes all the > time!!! > > Lolo >

just forgot to mention - i'm on mix+++ andreas

Hi! Can someone please test whether recording to Wav-Files works in Logic 5.2? As soon as I record Wavs with TDM in Logic the Files are totally distorted and noisy... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de

On 8/27/02 10:35 AM, "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> wrote: > Can someone please test whether recording to Wav-Files works in Logic 5.2? > As soon as I record Wavs with TDM in Logic the Files are totally distorted > and noisy... > > Peter Peter, I've ALWAYS had those sorts of problems trying to bounce direct to a .wav file, not just 5.2. I have to bounce to sd2 then convert Regards Malcolm ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music NYC http://www.malcolmpayne.com

Malcolm, I haven´t even tried bouncing to Wav. Can you check whether you have those problems with "normal" recording to tracks, too? Thanx, Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Payne" <alt@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Wav-Recordings > On 8/27/02 10:35 AM, "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> wrote: > > > Can someone please test whether recording to Wav-Files works in Logic 5.2? > > As soon as I record Wavs with TDM in Logic the Files are totally distorted > > and noisy... > > > > Peter > > Peter, > > I've ALWAYS had those sorts of problems trying to bounce direct to a .wav > file, not just 5.2. I have to bounce to sd2 then convert > > Regards > > Malcolm > ----------------- > Malcolm Payne Music > NYC > http://www.malcolmpayne.com

FWIW- I'm running Logic 5.2 with on an HD2 system and it has been very solid and reliable. The computer is a dual 1 gig Quicksilver. Regards, Chris Crofford >In a message dated 8/27/02 9:45:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rob@... >writes: > > >> Hmmm...I'm running 5.2 with a Mix+++ system and I haven't had a crash >> yet (3 weeks on...) >> >> > >Maybe the problem is just with the HD system? I have HD3 and have the crash >problem. I open Logic. Close it. Check my email on IE and close IE. Open >logic and freeze during the Waves process. > >Pete Church > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --

Chris, Have you tried to quit logic, open some other program (non DAE) close that program and then try to open logic again? Also, do you use Waves? Pete Church

More happening. I have been shooting e-mails back and forth with E-magic and Waves support. The final word from both: allocate a lot of memory to Logic. And I did: I gave a preferred size of 400 000 KB to Logic and suddenly it stopped crashing with Waves when restarted. They say that Waveshell needs a lot of memory. The only thing that I find strange is that Pro-Tools 5.3.1 can run with a preferred size of 50 000 KB and still manage to run Waves plug- in fine. Does it means that Logic doesn't handle memory as well as Pro-Tools? I do not know. But then again Logic does much more when Direct TDM and Rewire are enabled, which might justify more memory. Thanks to E-Magic and Waves support teams for their fast and usefull help. Michel

Logic needs more.....especially if youre running softsynths N. --- In logic-tdm@y..., "sullysounddotcom" <michel.sully@b...> wrote: > More happening. > > I have been shooting e-mails back and forth with E-magic and Waves > support. > The final word from both: allocate a lot of memory to Logic. > And I did: > I gave a preferred size of 400 000 KB to Logic and suddenly it > stopped crashing with Waves when restarted. > They say that Waveshell needs a lot of memory. > The only thing that I find strange is that Pro-Tools 5.3.1 can run > with a preferred size of 50 000 KB and still manage to run Waves plug- > in fine. Does it means that Logic doesn't handle memory as well as > Pro-Tools? I do not know. But then again Logic does much more when > Direct TDM and Rewire are enabled, which might justify more memory. > Thanks to E-Magic and Waves support teams for their fast and usefull > help. > Michel

Hi Pete, I just did it, no problem. I am using WAVES (WAVESHELL 3.5) but not Maxx Bass. However, something very weird did happen in Logic today. I could swear that at one point, I had both a TDM bus and a ESB stream feeding into the same TDM aux and I could hear them both, mixed together. For awhile I got confused and started to think that this is how it is supposed to work. I even started creating some new screensets. But then suddenly, it didn't work anymore and when I inserted the ESB bus it muted the TDM input (which is the way it has always worked in the past). But all of that probably doesn't have anything to do with your problem. Let me know if there is any other info that I can give you that might help. Regards, Chris >Chris, > >Have you tried to quit logic, open some other program (non DAE) >close that program and then try to open logic again? Also, do you >use Waves? > > >Pete Church > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --

Yes, Thanks to a tip on the list from someone about a month ago, I have been running Logic 5.2 with 350 MB's. Maybe that's why my system has been stable ? Regards, Chris Crofford >More happening. > >I have been shooting e-mails back and forth with E-magic and Waves >support. >The final word from both: allocate a lot of memory to Logic. >And I did: >I gave a preferred size of 400 000 KB to Logic and suddenly it >stopped crashing with Waves when restarted. >They say that Waveshell needs a lot of memory. >The only thing that I find strange is that Pro-Tools 5.3.1 can run >with a preferred size of 50 000 KB and still manage to run Waves plug- >in fine. Does it means that Logic doesn't handle memory as well as >Pro-Tools? I do not know. But then again Logic does much more when >Direct TDM and Rewire are enabled, which might justify more memory. >Thanks to E-Magic and Waves support teams for their fast and usefull >help. >Michel > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --

Hi Peter Just tried - same result here. Wav files never really has worked for me i TDM/Logic -- P e t e r H . S ø r e n s e n PS:Musik PS:Studio > Fra: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Svar til: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Dato: 28 Aug 2002 07:51:28 -0000 > Til: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Emne: [L-TDM] Digest Number 1104 > > Hi! > > Can someone please test whether recording to Wav-Files works in Logic 5.2? > As soon as I record Wavs with TDM in Logic the Files are totally distorted > and noisy... > > Peter

Has anyone managed to solve the "audio suite preview problem"?? And if so, was it RAM or Waves related? Fredrik --- In logic-tdm@y..., ccrofford <xtopher@s...> wrote: > Yes, > > Thanks to a tip on the list from someone about a month ago, I have > been running Logic 5.2 with 350 MB's. Maybe that's why my system has > been stable ? > > Regards, > > Chris Crofford > > > >More happening. > > > >I have been shooting e-mails back and forth with E-magic and Waves > >support. > >The final word from both: allocate a lot of memory to Logic. > >And I did: > >I gave a preferred size of 400 000 KB to Logic and suddenly it > >stopped crashing with Waves when restarted. > >They say that Waveshell needs a lot of memory. > >The only thing that I find strange is that Pro-Tools 5.3.1 can run > >with a preferred size of 50 000 KB and still manage to run Waves plug- > >in fine. Does it means that Logic doesn't handle memory as well as > >Pro-Tools? I do not know. But then again Logic does much more when > >Direct TDM and Rewire are enabled, which might justify more memory. > >Thanks to E-Magic and Waves support teams for their fast and usefull > >help. > >Michel > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > --

Does anyone else have the problem where Waves plug-ins are not actually activated properly when you load a song? I seem to remember this being a problem about 2 years ago and its happening to me again now with all the latest stuff! Cheers, Ian.

Should 600 of Ram alloted to Logic then be sufficient? Pete

Hi All, A friend is trying to use Logic as a soft synth host to be driven by another sequencer on another Mac. This means that incoming MIDI on various MIDI Channels must go to the appropriate synths. But incoming MIDI always goes to the instrument of the currently selected track in the arrange window. I've tried cabling the physical input object through a channelizer object straight to the audio objects with the various synths. No go. Tried "Channelize" on with the sequencer input object. No go. Always the same. Etc. Help file gives vague mention that this is possible. But what am I doing wrong? Thanx. jr

Jeff Rona wrote: > > Hi All, > > A friend is trying to use Logic as a soft synth host to be driven by another > sequencer on another Mac. This means that incoming MIDI on various MIDI > Channels must go to the appropriate synths. But incoming MIDI always goes to > the instrument of the currently selected track in the arrange window. > I've tried cabling the physical input object through a channelizer object > straight to the audio objects with the various synths. No go. Tried > "Channelize" on with the sequencer input object. No go. Always the same. Etc. > Help file gives vague mention that this is possible. But what am I doing > wrong? > > Thanx. > > jr > > > What version of logic ? Various instances of ver5 behave slightly differently. But whatever you do, read through the section of the help which refers to 'Split' and 'Layer' modes in MIDI [you'll need to enable 'demix by channel' in recording options. AFAIR, without checking, the current arrangement is that the Instrument objects receive on channels based on their order [i.e. Audioinstrument 01 = cha 1 and so on.] No matter what midi channel the object is set to. But you'd have to check on that. Dave Eager

How's it work in Logic? Thanks, Pete Church

--- In logic-tdm@y..., "Jeff Rona"<jrona@e...> wrote: > Hi All, > > A friend is trying to use Logic as a soft synth host to be driven by another > sequencer on another Mac. This means that incoming MIDI on various MIDI > Channels must go to the appropriate synths. But incoming MIDI always goes to > the instrument of the currently selected track in the arrange window. > I've tried cabling the physical input object through a channelizer object > straight to the audio objects with the various synths. No go. Tried > "Channelize" on with the sequencer input object. No go. Always the same. Etc. > Help file gives vague mention that this is possible. But what am I doing > wrong? Jeff, what you are doing wrong is trying to make something work that cannot work. Emagic Logic can only play one live active VSTi at a time. Actually there has been a thread about this over on Logic Users just within the past several hours. Bob > > Thanx. > > jr You're welcome Jeff, glad to help YOU out for a change (I like your column!) Sorry my words are not helpful.

Sorry JR you are wrong. I have done exactly want has been suggested here. You can run 16 separate instruments but be warned that the timing is so bad because logic cannot read what you are going to play in advance like it does when different tracks have been recorded, so when you have a few midi channels playing it is unusable even on a fast machine like a 800mhz. Regards PG > From: "splugapass" <bobandmaria@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:29:28 -0000 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [L-TDM] Re: MIDI Channels and VSTi > > --- In logic-tdm@y..., "Jeff Rona"<jrona@e...> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> A friend is trying to use Logic as a soft synth host to be driven > by another >> sequencer on another Mac. This means that incoming MIDI on various > MIDI >> Channels must go to the appropriate synths. But incoming MIDI > always goes to >> the instrument of the currently selected track in the arrange > window. >> I've tried cabling the physical input object through a > channelizer object >> straight to the audio objects with the various synths. No go. Tried >> "Channelize" on with the sequencer input object. No go. Always the > same. Etc. >> Help file gives vague mention that this is possible. But what am > I doing >> wrong? > > Jeff, what you are doing wrong is trying to make something work that > cannot work. Emagic Logic can only play one live active VSTi at a > time. Actually there has been a thread about this over on Logic Users > just within the past several hours. > > Bob >> >> Thanx. >> >> jr > > You're welcome Jeff, glad to help YOU out for a change (I like your > column!) Sorry my words are not helpful. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Hi All, A friend is trying to use Logic as a soft synth host to be driven by another sequencer on another Mac. This means that incoming MIDI on various MIDI Channels must go to the appropriate synths. But incoming MIDI always goes to the instrument of the currently selected track in the arrange window. I've tried cabling the physical input object through a channelizer object straight to the audio objects with the various synths. No go. Tried "Channelize" on with the sequencer input object. No go. Always the same. Etc. Help file gives vague mention that this is possible. But what am I doing wrong? Thanx. jr

From: "Jeff Rona" <jrona@...> > A friend is trying to use Logic as a soft synth host to be driven by > another > sequencer on another Mac. This means that incoming MIDI on various MIDI > Channels must go to the appropriate synths. But incoming MIDI always goes to > the instrument of the currently selected track in the arrange window. > I've tried cabling the physical input object through a channelizer object > straight to the audio objects with the various synths. No go. Tried > "Channelize" on with the sequencer input object. No go. Always the same. > Etc. > Help file gives vague mention that this is possible. But what am I doing > wrong? Unfortunately, logic can have only 1 realtime softsynth active. All environment objects and cabling will work correctly, but only on track playback. So Logic *right now* can't be used for that purpose. Andrea

Hey all, For about a year now, I've been running a MOTU 828 via it's ASIO driver along with my Mix+++ using ESB. In Logic versions prior to 5.2 I've had no problems playing audio tracks via ASIO (828) and DTDM via my Digidesign interfaces. Now with 5.2, I notice that if I play more than one track of audio via DTDM while the ASIO driver is active, I get a "Disk too Slow" message. This happens even if I'm not playing any other audio tracks via TDM or ASIO. Even with no active native plug-ins. My disk is not too slow, and if I hit return the message goes away and audio plays as usual. I get the message everytime I hit play and audio is assigned to a DTDM track. If I quit the ASIO driver, the message stops appearing, even while running lots of DTDM audio tracks. There is no problem running soft synthes thru both systems at the same time, only multi-track audio from disk thru DTDM tracks trigger the message while both drivers are active. This never used to happen pre-5.2. If I run DTDM and the AV driver at the same time, there are no problems, so I conclude that 5.2 introduced a conflict between my MOTU asio driver and the DTDM Logic system. Not a monumental problem, but a bummer in that I have been used to being able to chose where to output my native Audio Tracks (via ASIO or DTDM). Anybody else using both systems at the same time noticed this? Otherwise, 5.2 is running very stable on my 733 G4. DEAN BAILIN

>Hi All, > > A friend is trying to use Logic as a soft synth host to be driven by >another >sequencer on another Mac. This means that incoming MIDI on various MIDI >Channels must go to the appropriate synths. But incoming MIDI always goes to >the instrument of the currently selected track in the arrange window. > I've tried cabling the physical input object through a channelizer object >straight to the audio objects with the various synths. No go. Tried >"Channelize" on with the sequencer input object. No go. Always the same. >Etc. > Help file gives vague mention that this is possible. But what am I doing >wrong? > > Thanx. > Currently not possible AFAIK jon Jon Cotton Production, Protools, string arranging and occasionally fine cookery Artisan Audio http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

PG wrote: > I have done exactly want has been suggested here. > You can run 16 separate instruments but be warned that the timing is so bad > because logic cannot read what you are going to play in advance like it does > when different tracks have been recorded, so when you have a few midi > channels playing it is unusable even on a fast machine like a 800mhz. > Have you tried making the first instrument a silent instrument, and playing with that track selected ? I haven't done the tests in 5.2, but up till now, the first [or selected] instrument is blessed with low latency, but the rest have longer, but equal, latency. So making the low-latency instrument silent, the rest play in synch. [I have never gone above 4 or 5 instruments either] Dave Eager