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From: "Stig Christensen" <sc@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 5:29:49 PM
Subject: SV: [L-TDM] Pro Tools can't "see" my Mix farm. help!!
Message #10276
This is a reply to #10273.
Hey f-erenc and Malcolm, That did it!! I thought that I by now should have been working on a session that have to be ready Saturday, but now my studio looks like a Tivoli after the kids free day, and so do the inside of my head! So goodnight and thanks for your help! Best Regards Stig Christensen visit http://www.sc-musik.dk/ -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: f-erenc szabo [mailto:zerobeat@...] Sendt: 29. maj 2002 23:34 Til: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com Emne: Re: [L-TDM] Pro Tools can't "see" my Mix farm. help!! sc@... writes: >Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem: Pro >Tools 5.01 don't see my MIX farm card. You'll need to supply a lot more information than that to get tech support. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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From: Modularmoog <modularmoog@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 6:49:40 PM
Subject: Re: SV: [L-TDM] Pro Tools can't "see" my Mix farm. help!!
Message #10277
This is a reply to #10276.
> Hey f-erenc and Malcolm, > > That did it!! > I thought that I by now should have been working on a session that have to > be ready Saturday, but now my studio looks like a Tivoli after the kids free > day, and so do the inside of my head! > So goodnight and thanks for your help! > > Best Regards > Stig Christensen > visit http://www.sc-musik.dk/ Stig!... I´m sure I will sound like an rude idiot, but I got to say this..... Why on earth aren´t you supplying the list members here the complete details of your system ?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!. You have been getting _several_ replies, but you don´t answer peoples request (even when they want to help you out!)... I don´t get it... Regards. Modularmoog.
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From: Malcolm Payne <alt@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 6:59:16 PM
Subject: Re: SV: [L-TDM] Pro Tools can't "see" my Mix farm. help!!
Message #10278
This is a reply to #10277.
On 5/29/02 7:49 PM, "Modularmoog" <modularmoog@...> wrote: > > Stig!... > > I´m sure I will sound like an rude idiot, but I got to say this..... > > Why on earth aren´t you supplying the list members here the complete details > of your system ?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!. > > You have been getting _several_ replies, but you don´t answer peoples > request (even when they want to help you out!)... > > I don´t get it... > > Regards. > Modularmoog. > ...And there's me thinking "that did it!" meant I'd solved his problem, not that I'd royally pissed him off. Oh well... M ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music NYC http://www.malcolmpayne.com
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From: Will Thomson <will@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 7:20:25 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic and the Finder
Message #10279
>I run "Action Menus" which is a more >sorted take on "Super Boomerang" and makes the open/save dialogue box much >more powerfull with browsing and "favorites" abilities. Except of course >with Logic, where the bog standard dialogue opens instead. I too like and use Action Utilities. There are two parts to it (purchased separately, if I remember correctly) :- 1. Action Menus : provides the enhanced Apple Menu. Works fine with Logic here. 2. Action Files : provides the enhanced open/save dialogue boxes. Does *not* work with Logic. Why? Because Power On Software, the authors of Action Utilities, have flagged Logic Audio as incompatible with Action Files. If you go to the compatibility tab in the Action Files Control Panel, you will find Logic Audio listed there, and also find that all the options in the pop up menu are grayed out. It's permanently set to 'OFF' for Logic. It might have something to do with the fact that Logic TDM allows you to choose either a standard OS open/save dialogue box or the Digidesign enhanced version. However, having said that, Action Files doesn't have any Digi products locked out under the compatibility tab and indeed works O.K. with MasterListCD and Sound Designer II. I don't know about Pro Tools because we rarely use it (preferring Logic as the front end), but I don't remember a problem the last time we had cause to run PT. The PT DAE open/save box, also selectable as an option in Logic, is a little more involved than the MLCD or SDII version because there are graphics involved (e.g. Play/Stop buttons, level meters), but as I said, PT is not on the 'incompatible list'. Of all these products, I believe only Logic offers the option of which open/save box to use, hence my wondering if this is what the problem for Action Files is. After purchasing Action Utilities sometime ago, you can imagine my annoyance when I found it wouldn't work with one of the most critical pieces of software I use! I asked Power On Software why this was so and on the assumption that Action Files had been tested with an old version of Logic Audio (because the 'incompatible list' entry states "...Versions Before 4.0..."), whether they could test it again on a current version, or send me a beta to test with Logic enabled in the list. I don't think I ever heard from them and now, of course, they may not bother because of OSX. Maybe we should complain to Power On Software again? Regards, Will Thomson, Dynamic Audio Production, U.K.
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From: Will Thomson <will@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 7:20:26 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic and the Finder
Message #10280
>Luckily, >there is a fix: Brilliant! I applied the hex data and it worked. Just a couple of points for anyone interested :- 1. The fix seems to have completely replaced the items originally in the Compatibility list, including several I'd put in for necessary reasons e.g. Don't allow resizing of dialogues for xxx application. Therefore, one would need to make a note of these before Res Editing the ACTION Files extension. As advised, I made a copy of the extension before applying the patch, so I can reinstall it temporarily to get my old settings back, then transfer them manually to the modified version. 2. As I suspected, Action Files doesn't work well with the DAE dialogue version. For Logic anyway, one fix is to turn off "DAE Fileselector..." in the Audio Driver preferences - don't really need the DAE dialogue frills anyway! 3. Just a small point, in Res Edit (here anyway), the resources are shown as graphics and "Skip #128" is actually within the resource called "Skip". It's only when you Option-double click that icon you see the name "Skip #128". Thanks very much, f-erenc, for this invaluable patch! Regards, Will Thomson, Dynamic Audio Production, U.K.
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From: Modularmoog <modularmoog@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 7:24:17 PM
Subject: Re: SV: [L-TDM] Pro Tools can't "see" my Mix farm. help!!
Message #10281
This is a reply to #10278.
> ...And there's me thinking "that did it!" meant I'd solved his problem, not > that I'd royally pissed him off. Oh well... > > M > > > ----------------- > Malcolm Payne Music > NYC > http://www.malcolmpayne.com That was what got me wonder.... Not to flame Stig (I´m sure he´s a cool dude)... but to me it is obvious that I _do whatever I can_ when people say they can help me... especially in a situation as he is in (the system is not working at all.... well half, more or less of the hardware is not seen)... :-/ This should also be a reminder to all other users who have problems... because (as most of us knows), there is _several_ hardware "dings" or specific software versions that is _known_ by us (tdm users) to cause major problems... which in most cases has an easy solution... Just on the standing foot (and I would _not_ be surprised if I´m totally wrong here), but is there not a "known" problem that MIX farms is _not_ recognized if using Quicksilver G4´s and older than ProTools 5.1 or 5.1.1?. I _know_ I´ve seen _m a n y_ posts about this problem on the DUC... and it was _not hardware, but a software (update) problem. Also another "hint" for people that have problems related to hardware or DAE/PT is to search the Digidesign (DUC)... http://duc.digidesign.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi Personally I can´t even count as many tips I´ve really gotten from that place (and this group of course)... My personal opinion is that... any _new_ ProTools user (or logic user for that sake) really _don´t_ need support from any sales man... Post on the DUC... wait a few minutes, or a day... and there is a 99% chance that some dude have solved your problem!.... I´m really happy about the DUC and Logic group.... because It is really nice to see how helpful "TDM" people really are!.... I would go as far to say that I would personally not have survived without _that_ support. PS!... I will _surely_ (most likely) need it more than ever the next few day´s, I´ve just ordered Logic 5 and will receive it in the next few day´s. :-) Well, I´m not an smart ass.... just realistic... Regards. Modularmoog.
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From: Bobo Mark <bobo@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 11:15:08 AM
Subject: Logic and HD support!!!
Message #10282
dear all: Does anyone heard when the released will be available?? Sony EQ is ready with 2 weeks or so. I thinks Sony is already very slow company!!!! -- Thanks and regards, Bobo Mark Producer Contact: bobo@... For and On behalf of Music 2000 **************************************************************************** Come! Visit our website at http://www.music2000.com.hk "May Music Moves Your Heart" ****************************************************************************
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From: Malcolm Payne <alt@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 8:18:38 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic and HD support!!!
Message #10283
This is a reply to #10282.
On 5/30/02 12:15 PM, "Bobo Mark" <bobo@...> wrote: > Does anyone heard when the released will be available?? Sony EQ is ready > with 2 weeks or so. I thinks Sony is already very slow company!!!! It's already there, in 5.1.3, only for some reason E-Magic are not selling access codes yet. Malcolm ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music NYC http://www.malcolmpayne.com
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From: Bobo Mark <bobo@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 11:23:53 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic and HD support!!!
Message #10284
This is a reply to #10283.
on 5/29/02 6:18 PM, Malcolm Payne at alt@... wrote: > On 5/30/02 12:15 PM, "Bobo Mark" <bobo@...> wrote: > >> Does anyone heard when the released will be available?? Sony EQ is ready >> with 2 weeks or so. I thinks Sony is already very slow company!!!! > > > It's already there, in 5.1.3, only for some reason E-Magic are not selling > access codes yet. > Any why Emagic have the programme ready and not let people buy it?? -- Thanks and regards, Bobo Mark Producer Contact: bobo@... For and On behalf of Music 2000 **************************************************************************** Come! Visit our website at http://www.music2000.com.hk "May Music Moves Your Heart" ****************************************************************************
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 8:44:53 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic and HD support!!!
Message #10285
This is a reply to #10283.
"Bobo Mark" <bobo@...> wrote: > Does anyone heard when the released will be available?? >Sony EQ is ready with 2 weeks or so. I thinks Sony is already >very slow company!!!! alt@... writes: >It's already there, in 5.1.3, only for some reason E-Magic are >not selling access codes yet. Wrong. Only the authorization scheme is ready, not the actual HD support itself. Believe me, you do *not* want to use it until it's past the beta test cycle!!!! f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"
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From: Malcolm Payne <alt@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 8:56:12 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic and HD support!!!
Message #10286
This is a reply to #10285.
On 5/29/02 9:44 PM, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...> wrote: > Wrong. Only the authorization scheme is ready, not the actual > HD support itself. Believe me, you do *not* want to use it > until it's past the beta test cycle!!!! Wrong? I'm quoting Michael Haydn: >No. Logic 5.1.2 has Pro Tools HD support, however you need an extra > authorization code. Malcolm ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music NYC http://www.malcolmpayne.com
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 8:59:03 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic and the Finder
Message #10287
This is a reply to #10280.
will@... writes: >2. As I suspected, Action Files doesn't work well with the DAE dialogue >version. For Logic anyway, one fix is to turn off "DAE Fileselector..." >in the Audio Driver preferences - don't really need the DAE dialogue >frills anyway! There is a fix with this involving ResEdit again. I had the instructions a few years ago, but lost it. I made this fix around 1998 (DAE 3.42, still using the same one - never even needed a reinstall) and forgot about it. It involves resizing the DAE File Selector via ResEdit (it's ridiculously small anyway, and should be resized irrespective of making it Action Menus friendly). It's probably the type of thing you can kind of monkey around with, but I know there are 2 or 3 separate resources that need to be modified. If I find the instructions I'll post them. If you like I could email you my DAE and you could analyze it in ResEdit to see what I might have done. I think it involves the dctb, DITL and DLOG resources. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"
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From: Bobo Mark <bobo@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 11:59:58 AM
Subject: Logic 5 upgrade back order at online store
Message #10288
dear all: I ordered the Logic 5 upgrade on May 1st. But still waiting the back order. Is it normal?? i email to online store and always got return email. is it normal too?? -- Thanks and regards, Bobo Mark Producer Contact: bobo@... For and On behalf of Music 2000 **************************************************************************** Come! Visit our website at http://www.music2000.com.hk "May Music Moves Your Heart" ****************************************************************************
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 9:07:42 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Pro Tools can't "see" my Mix farm. help!!
Message #10289
This is a reply to #10274.
sc@... writes: >>>Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem: Pro >>>Tools 5.01 don't see my MIX farm card. f-erenc szabo [mailto:zerobeat@...] writes: >>You'll need to supply a lot more information than that >>to get tech support. sc@... writes: >Yes but I know you and the others wizards would know! No, I don't know. If you need tech support you'll have to supply more information than "It doesn't work". There's no way I can know the other attributes about your rig, like which OS, which Mac, does it work in Logic and not ProTools?, has your current rig ever worked or is this a new install?, have you introduced new elements to this older rig?....... And there's no way I'm going to supply you with every possible solution imaginable given every combination of software and hardware. It's not like I'm asking you to wave a dead chicken over it (yet). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 9:10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic 5 upgrade back order at online store
Message #10290
This is a reply to #10288.
bobo@... writes: >I ordered the Logic 5 upgrade on May 1st. But still waiting >the back order. Is it normal?? Here in Canada some customers are waiting more than 2 months already. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 at 9:23:53 PM
Subject: Re: SV: [L-TDM] Pro Tools can't "see" my Mix farm. help!!
Message #10291
This is a reply to #10281.
modularmoog@... writes: >Just on the standing foot (and I would _not_ be surprised if >I´m totally wrong here), but is there not a "known" problem >that MIX farms is _not_ recognized if using Quicksilver G4´s >and older than ProTools 5.1 or 5.1.1 ?. Sure, in fact I answered another thread here yesterday and gave this information. That's because that person actually mentioned which computer was being used (a G4/933, which can only be QuickSilver). 5.11 is the first DSI that works with QuickSilver (I'm fairly certain that 5.1 doesn't work) And you know, I got *this* information by telling a TDM conference practically my entire life story (well, every last detail of the TDM rig I was troubleshooting at the time - I got these answers [and more] about 30 minutes after the initial inquiry!). So the rig I was working on went from seemingly unfixable disaster to perfection in less than 1 hour. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"
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From: "alexgreggs" <alexgreggs@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 12:08:40 AM
Subject: Gigastudio and Logic
Message #10292
Anyone who knows me knows im nuts about ESX but I do like a lot of the things about Gigastudio (I run logic on a Mac dual 800 Mix+++++ system, Giga is running on seperate PC) My question is the Gigastudio has a 7ms delay, is there a way that I can set a certain instrument or MIDI port (Unitor8) to always pre- delay in the sequence by a certain amount, or will I just have to keep setting the pre delay after I record each part manualy in the arrange window? Alex G
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From: Daniel <danielh@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 12:49:24 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Mixer Quality
Message #10293
This is a reply to #10191.
>Eric Persing, of Spectrasonics, has said that there is a highly noticable >difference in sound quality between TDM and the native audio mixer in Logic. >In his test he suggests that you take a piece of good audio, put it in a TDM >track, an ASIO track, and finally in the EXS24. In his test he said that >both TDM and the EXS sounded significantly better than audio being played >from a native audio track through the mixer. > > I have not reproduced this test. But it brings up 2 questions: > >* Would running a native track into TDM through the USB improve the sound >quality? > >* Does Pow-r make any difference in the sonic quality of Logic's native >mixer? OR is it only of use in changing bit depth? > Which Audio card was he using. That is very important to know.... -- Daniel Hamuy danielh@... http://www.Powerkeys.com
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From: Plastikuk@...
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 1:19:17 AM
Subject: Re: SV: [L-TDM] Pro Tools can't "see" my Mix farm. help!!
Message #10294
I had the same problem, and I dowloaded digisystem init 5.0.1 and Dae 5.0 (5.1 doesnt work) and it worked like a charm. However after I noticed my mouse was acting real jerkey. Any one else know anything of this? Cheers!
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From: Modularmoog <modularmoog@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 10:38:58 AM
Subject: LAP 5.0 update
Message #10295
I just received my Logic Audio Platinum 5.0 today from my dealer... I paid for the package but have a few questions as I can´t seem to find the information in the package or on the emagic site (ok ok ok, I haven´t read that much... you got me!)... I will not need or even be able to install the package until next week, I want to be able to use the "12 week limited other software" for as _long_ as possible... Therefore I wonder... 1: Will I have to send in my previous Logic _ASAP_, or will the XSKey 12 week time start when I install the update+key first time?... i.ex, can I wait for a month and then install and have 3 months to send in the old version? 2: Can I register the Logic update online from ANOTHER system(in fact I´m like many others _not_ running my internet stuff on the same partition as my ProTools/Logic system)... 3: When emagic receives the old logic version and I receive my _final_ authorization code, will the XSKey be authorized for good ??? I.ex, if I want to bring the key over to another computer or even _sell_ the package... will the new owner just have to install the software and plug the key in, and it works ?????. Ok.. stupid questions maybe.... however, I need answers :-)) Thanks in advance. Thanks. Modularmoog.
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mattias_Glavå?= <glava1@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 11:09:46 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAP 5.0 update
Message #10296
This is a reply to #10295.
How does I unsubscribe? Mattias Glavå torsdagen den 30 maj 2002 kl 17.38 skrev Modularmoog: > yahoogroups.com
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mattias_Glavå?= <glava1@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 11:17:37 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAP 5.0 update
Message #10297
This is a reply to #10296.
unsubscribe torsdagen den 30 maj 2002 kl 18.09 skrev Mattias Glavå: > How does I unsubscribe? > > Mattias Glavå > torsdagen den 30 maj 2002 kl 17.38 skrev Modularmoog: > >> yahoogroups.com > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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From: "rberic@..." <rberic@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 12:05:58 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Gigastudio and Logic
Message #10298
This is a reply to #10292.
on 5/29/02 10:08 PM, alexgreggs at alexgreggs@... wrote: > Anyone who knows me knows im nuts about ESX but I do like a lot of > the things about Gigastudio (I run logic on a Mac dual 800 Mix+++++ > system, Giga is running on seperate PC) > My question is the Gigastudio has a 7ms delay, is there a way that I > can set a certain instrument or MIDI port (Unitor8) to always pre- > delay in the sequence by a certain amount, or will I just have to > keep setting the pre delay after I record each part manualy in the > arrange window? > > Alex G > Similar system to what I'm running, and it's really easy to do. My startup Logic file has all my instruments loaded and ready to go and my Gigastudio tracks have the delay already compensated. To do this, in the arrange window, simply select your Gigastudio tracks WITHOUT any objects selected, and set your object parameters (upper lefthand corner) accordingly. Any new objects recorded into that track will automatically reflect said parameters. For any of my drum tracks, I have imput quantize set up to sixteenth notes. E-
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 3:14:47 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAP 5.0 update
Message #10299
This is a reply to #10295.
modularmoog@... writes: >1: Will I have to send in my previous Logic _ASAP_, or will the XSKey 12 > week time start when I install the update+key first time?... i.ex, >can I > wait for a month and then install and have 3 months to send in the old > version? The 84 day countdown starts the moment you install it, not from when your hands touch the package! >2: Can I register the Logic update online from ANOTHER system(in fact I´m > like many others _not_ running my internet stuff on the same partition > as my ProTools/Logic system)... Yes. The dongle is not computer-dependent. Just make sure that the system clock (correct DATE) of the computer is correct (and make sure a TIME ZONE has been allocated). >3: When emagic receives the old logic version and I receive my _final_ > authorization code, will the XSKey be authorized for good ??? Yes. >I.ex, if I want to bring the key over to another computer or even _sell_ >the package... will the new owner just have to install the software and >plug the key in, and it works ?????. Yes, although you might want to transfer registration for the buyer's sake. >Ok.. stupid questions maybe.... however, I need answers :-)) There are only stupid answers, no stupid questions. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"
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From: Modularmoog <modularmoog@...>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 at 4:40:13 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAP 5.0 update
Message #10300
This is a reply to #10299.
> Yes, although you might want to transfer registration for the buyer's > sake. Of course... hm... makes me think, do you have any idea if emagic ask for $$$ for registration transfers?... Digidesign _does_. > There are only stupid answers, no stupid questions. He he... true... Thanks f-erenc.... Regards. Modularmoog.
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