jbep@... writes: >> Are you using the OMF translator in PT 5.1.3? >Yes. Again, I would stay with Digitranslator 1.0 for now. It seems more stable. ...and worked on my tests, albeit preliminary. best Janne A. ******************************************* ******* mailto:janderson@... ***** *******************************************

Hi all, I can't say enough good things about 5.0. I do have one odd thing happening. I noticed when editing an EXS piano track that when I displayed controller 64 in hyperdraw that wherever there was a sustain on/off event, it was accompanied by text that was derived from my EXS sample instrument folder. It's wierd, but I then noticed a similar thing looking at the sustain display of the same track playing the EVP88. It's only happening to me on software instrument tracks. Right in the blue hyperdraw display in either the arrange or matrix windows are full instrument names next to the sustain events that are unrelated to the track in any way. I wonder if I'm the only one. Aside from this small insignificant detail, I can't find anything except great things to say about this brilliant integration of automation into the program. Wow. I love how you can trim automation for a whole track right from the db display, but has anyone noticed an easy way to trim automation on a selected group of tracks? The Transform editor doesn't work on the automation folder's events, (because it's not really midi data), and shift clicking tracks for automation editing doesn't seem to respond. Say you want to reduce automation levels on 6 tracks by an equal amount. Anybody have a quick way to do it? Anyway, bravo for 5.0!!! DEAN BAILIN

> >well. It only occurs when you're working with large sessions > >(many tracks in arrange) and when you zoom in really close in > >arrange. For instance when you're cutting vocals! > >you zoom close enough and logic will show you another place > >on the screen. > >Problem has been debated a lot here earlier... > > When you're doing this editing, do you have the Catch button (the > blue walking man icon) enabled? This could possibly be causing your > jumping. > > Lee Blaske hmm... I've actually never thought of that! I'll test by turnnig of "catch"! thanks Lee, Niels

Perfect Jon. Will be adequate for now! thanks, Niels > You can rest assured there will be small improvements to this sort of > thing in the near future. > > In the meantime, there's a key command for 'Automation Event Edit' > if you look in the KC window. That will give you an old-style event > list where you can manually reassign your automation in the > olde-fashioned way. > > > Jon Cotton > > "The sound was essentially a great big wodge of mid-range, like a > giant ham sandwich flying out of your speakers towards your head." - > Tim Friese-Green > > Gramophone the album > http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk > Artisan Audio / Artisan Records > http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

Anyone using Logic 5 with a legacy Mac (i.e. one without USB)? I'm under the impression that the only way to connect the new key to my beige G3 is via a USB PCI card, which... are all taken up. Anyone have any luck with serial/USB converters, etc? Thanks in advance, E-

Hello all, I thought it would be of interest to many of you to know the HD-ready McDSP plugIns (Analog Channel, CompressorBank, FilterBank, and MC2000) are posted on our site at www.mcdsp.com. The HD update from is free, and support for up to 192 kHz sampling rates, as well as backwards compatibility to the Mix and d|24 (Classic farm) PCI hardware is included. Nubus support has been dropped. Lots of other details on our web site. Thanks to all the folks out there helping make McDSP what it is today! Colin McDowell 3/29/2002 McDSP, LLC member

Hi Malcom and Jon, Thanks for the ideas. I double checked and I did successfully transform the controller 28 info to fader 28 and I do have send 1 set in the display box. The track is in read mode, not latch or trim, but Jon put me on the right track. After I was finally able to get the controller data re-mapped to fader data, I forgot to perform "Move Current Object Data To Track Automation" on this track. I had previously done "Move All Object Control Data To Track Automation" on all tracks, but that was before I had re-mapped the controller info to fader info so the send 1 for this track was not updated. So I guess that's what it looks like if the automation has not been updated and is being controlled by pre 5.0 automation. Regards, Chris Crofford I wrote..... > > This is so weird, I had to tell someone. I have been experiencing the >> send automation problem on a TDM stereo track on one of my pre 5.0 >> songs. Thanks to some great instructions from Malcom on how to use >> the transformer to change controller info to fader info, I am now >> able to hear the correct send automation. However, when I look at the >> send automation in the arrange window it is just a straight line (it >> should include some fade ups and fade downs). The strangest part is >> that when the song is playing back, the whole line representing the >> send automation goes up and down with the (send) fader moves, in real >> time. It is if there are no break points, just a horizontal line that >> corresponds with the send knob. >> >> Does my explanation make sense ? Has anyone else seen this ? >> >> regards, >> >> Chris Crofford >> >> Malcom responded...... >Chris, > >Weird. And you're sure you have "send 1" (or whatever" displayed in the >track automation parameter box? My only guess is that the display parameter >is still set to controller 28, or something else. >----------------- >Malcolm Payne Music >NYC >http://www.malcolmpayne.com > And Jon responded.... Chris I may be confused but it sounds to me like: (1) you have 'old' automation controlling your aux send (2) Logic's new automation is in either write/latch or trim mode When you play back the song, you are seeing the 'new' automation recording the moves the 'old' automation is making, as though you were doing them manually. Hence the realtime plot on the arrange with no breakbeats. I'll bet that if you mute your 'old' automation and grab an aux send yourself during playback, you'll see the same thing. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick? Jon --

Good help :-) select similar objects is selecting all the different events that are faders though. But if you select the automation you want to edit in arrange before opening the automation event list. this will also be selcted here... Thanks! Niels --- In logic-tdm@y..., "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> wrote: > nielzy6@h... writes: > >Today I had my first case of needing to change assignment of > >automation data without midi in LA5. > >In this case I needed to swap an automated bypass from insert2 > >to insert3. > > For now, use the Key Command to open up the Track Automation > Folder or TrackAutomation Event Editor. You'll notice a new class > of events called "Fader". Simply select one of the insert2 automation > Events, go the the Edit submenu and "Select Similar" and then change > the data type to insert3. > > > > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

Do you have the Logic Control? I just tried to reinstall from CD (no Logic Control) but the internet updater only installed 5.0.0... How is this supposed to work? Thanks, M > From: David Eager <beager@...> > > I just got LA5 and it installed 5.0.1 from the web. 5.0.1 has ES2, EVOC and > DOT technology. > Bummer about the demo period on ES2/EVOC though. We only get 28 days with > these, instead of the 84 days on the rest [which I've already bought anyway > :( ] > > Dave Eager > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

I'm having the same problem. The Web updater leaves it at 5.0.0... really strange, was looking forward to es-2 and possibly a couple of bug-fixes? Am 29.03.2002 21:28 Uhr schrieb "Martin Aune" unter <mbox@...>: > Do you have the Logic Control? I just tried to reinstall from CD (no Logic > Control) but the internet updater only installed 5.0.0... How is this > supposed to work? > > Thanks, > M > > > >> From: David Eager <beager@...> >> >> I just got LA5 and it installed 5.0.1 from the web. 5.0.1 has ES2, EVOC and >> DOT technology. >> Bummer about the demo period on ES2/EVOC though. We only get 28 days with >> these, instead of the 84 days on the rest [which I've already bought anyway >> :( ] >> >> Dave Eager >> >> >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

rberic@... writes: >Anyone using Logic 5 with a legacy Mac (i.e. one without USB)? I'm under >the impression that the only way to connect the new key to my beige G3 is >via a USB PCI card, which... are all taken up. Anyone have any luck with >serial/USB converters, etc? I've never heard of a serial->USB convertor. If anybody knows of one (or any other possible method to get USB on a Nubus Mac) shout it from the rooftops! If you have PCI, then think about a combination Firewire/USB card. Who knows what Firewire goodies you might to hook up now or in the near future? f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

In a message dated 3/29/02 4:59:40 PM, zerobeat@... writes: << I've never heard of a serial->USB convertor. If anybody knows of one (or any other possible method to get USB on a Nubus Mac) shout it from the rooftops! >> AMEN TO THAT-THEN CAN ALL US DISENFRANCHISED NUBUSERS USE 5.0 ????? OOPS-I MUST BE DREAMING????

I’m trying to get OMS and Native midi to work on logic 5.0. It was working and I update to 9.1. When I updated it stopped working. Each will work by themselves but not together. I’ve tried trashing Prefs, new oms setup, and even reloading oms. I use a G4-MTPAV, MTPII,OMS,LOTS of modules, TDM/Mix 24, and softsynths. One thing I do notice is when I use only oms the port says OMS, but when I use both it says Modem 0. Thanks JE

>Anyone have any luck with >serial/USB converters, etc? We're in the same boat, and don't want to change the G3/OS8.6 for various reasons. But is there actually such a device as a Serial to USB converter? My local Mac dealer hadn't heard of one, although there may be devices that work the other way round i.e. USB to Serial. Regards, Will Thomson

will@... writes: >is there actually such a device as a Serial to USB >converter? My local Mac dealer hadn't heard of one, although there may be >devices that work the other way round i.e. USB to Serial. Sure, USB->Serial is quite common, but it can't be plugged in backwards to become a Serial->USB convertor. By the way, USB->Serial devices do NOT work with MIDI. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants (Tastes awful, but it works) Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

JLEpperson@... writes: >I want to add a AUX track to my arrange window. >When I hold mouse down over track I don’t get a >option for AUX, only track. You need to activate its icon in the Environment (click on the little box beside the AUX's icon in the Parameter Box). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

Serial to USB (or ADB to USB, bandwidth shouldn´t be a problem for dongles?) would be a GREAT device! I´d definitely buy one stante pede. That would mean I´d get my SCSI back, which I had to throw out for the USB/FireWire combo card, and FireWire doesn´t work as reliable as my old SCSI system through that card... :-/ Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Thomson" <will@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] new Logic key > >Anyone have any luck with > >serial/USB converters, etc? > > We're in the same boat, and don't want to change the G3/OS8.6 for various > reasons. But is there actually such a device as a Serial to USB > converter? My local Mac dealer hadn't heard of one, although there may be > devices that work the other way round i.e. USB to Serial.

Martin Aune wrote: > Do you have the Logic Control? I just tried to reinstall from CD (no Logic > Control) but the internet updater only installed 5.0.0... How is this > supposed to work? No I don't have LC. Did anything download when you did the web update ? I know it all seemed a nit strange when I did it. I got a message that I'd have to reboot and start the installer again to complete the update, but I couldn't find the file called lp5.upd that the download dialog had said was downloading. Anyway, I checked and 5.0.1 was installed so I figured it had done it's job. Maybe the web update didn't work and actually 5.0.1 was what was on the CD. Check the dates in 'get info' on the CD installer. Mine says 'Mon 25 Feb 2002 501 am'. Dave Eager

Actually, I just checked the CD and it's Volume1/2002 and it does have ES2 and EVOC 20 listed on the CD, so it must be what was installed from the CD. sorry bout that keep checking with the web update though, maybe it's just not working properly. Dave Eager

I think the web update only downloads the Disk streaming for the EXS24. > > Actually, I just checked the CD and it's Volume1/2002 and it does have ES2 and > EVOC 20 listed on the CD, so it must be what was installed from the CD. > > sorry bout that > > keep checking with the web update though, maybe it's just not working properly. > > Dave Eager > __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com

hey out there i think that the internet update there popup when you are installing the program is only if you get logic so late that there will be 5.1 or 5."whatever" so will it get it from the net, but now there is'nt anyupdates yet, but the programs installer is just set to do anyway Greets Jesper ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.Vincken" <jv@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Logic 5.1 > I think the web update only downloads the Disk streaming for the EXS24. > > > > > Actually, I just checked the CD and it's Volume1/2002 and it does have ES2 > and > > EVOC 20 listed on the CD, so it must be what was installed from the CD. > > > > sorry bout that > > > > keep checking with the web update though, maybe it's just not working > properly. > > > > Dave Eager > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" > http://www.doteasy.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> Subject: Re: new Logic key Serial to USB (or ADB to USB, bandwidth shouldn´t be a problem for dongles?) would be a GREAT device! I´d definitely buy one stante pede. That would mean I´d get my SCSI back, which I had to throw out for the USB/FireWire combo card, and FireWire doesn´t work as reliable as my old SCSI system through that card... :-/ Peter , if you can get hold of OS 9.2.2, it installs the latest FW driver 2.8.5 then make sure you only use Oxford 911 bridge for ide 2 FW and you should be flying with the rest of the FW gang. Of course the PCI bus FW card is slowing things down a bit in comparison to QS G4 macs which have FW directly on the motherboard, but I accidentally recorded 8 trax on my FW drive the other day without any hiccups on my 9600 and will test til where I can drive it the next days I doubt there will ever be a serial to USB adapter made ..... ciao Hanno

Hey guys, If I got it right from the Emagic site, you only get 5.1 *on a CD* when purchasing LC. Can't check it myself as I'm still on 4.8.1 (nuBus). Best, Andy

Okay, so I've resigned myself to the fact that I won't be able to upgrade to 5.0 until I get a new Mac (all my PCI slots are taken up by PT, and therefore, can't utilize USB). Does anyone know if the newest G4s can still use the G4 port to replace the modem port with serial so I can at least keep my non-USB Unitor8? If so, imagine my dismay when the new G5's won't be able to. I'm thinking of not upgrading anything until Logic, PT, DAE, TDM, Waveburner, and the like all support OSX. Are we talking months, years, or never? E-

> Okay, so I've resigned myself to the fact that I won't be able to upgrade to > 5.0 until I get a new Mac (all my PCI slots are taken up by PT, and > therefore, can't utilize USB). > > Does anyone know if the newest G4s can still use the G4 port to replace the > modem port with serial so I can at least keep my non-USB Unitor8? If so, > imagine my dismay when the new G5's won't be able to. Yes, you can have a stealth port instead of the internal modem (at least in my G4 800 DP). > > I'm thinking of not upgrading anything until Logic, PT, DAE, TDM, > Waveburner, and the like all support OSX. Are we talking months, years, or > never? My guess, at least 6 months, but could also be more. Remember, they all have to upgrade before it is any good to us. __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com