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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 6:15:49 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9201
This is a reply to #9200.
Hello? Switch off auto-input-monitoring...? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Najar" <pnajar@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring > B.D. Brown on 24/2/02 2:37 AM, B.D. Brown at bduronb@... wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I have logic 4.7 on TDM. In the mixer page when recording audio, I am > > using punch on the fly and auto input monitoring just as I did when I > > had ASIO(with software monitoring.) > > > > My problem is this. When recording audio be it from MIDI in logic or a > > vocal, when the sequencer is stopped everything is fine as far as a > > vocal is concerned, but when I have the sequencer going to test the > > level of MIDI being recorded it does not come through when the in play, > > but as I stop it, a second on audio is heard? > > > > What can I do here. I have an aux input that I use, but the frustrating > > part about that is you have to mute the actual audio mixer track that > > you are recording to in order not to get a "flanging" type sound while > > recording (it does not go to disk that way though.) > > > > What can I do here. I never had this problem with ASIO. > > When setting input levels simply make sure you actually punch into record. > Then you will hear the audio and the meters will move. Once the level is set > just delete the audio go for real. Boring I know. I ran into this when I > moved over to TDM also. It's the only workaround I found.
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From: Malcolm Payne <mpmusicny@...>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 8:23:26 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9202
This is a reply to #9200.
On 2/24/02 6:40 PM, "Paul Najar" <pnajar@...> wrote: > B.D. Brown on 24/2/02 2:37 AM, B.D. Brown at bduronb@... wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have logic 4.7 on TDM. In the mixer page when recording audio, I am >> using punch on the fly and auto input monitoring just as I did when I >> had ASIO(with software monitoring.) >> >> My problem is this. When recording audio be it from MIDI in logic or a >> vocal, when the sequencer is stopped everything is fine as far as a >> vocal is concerned, but when I have the sequencer going to test the >> level of MIDI being recorded it does not come through when the in play, >> but as I stop it, a second on audio is heard? >> >> What can I do here. I have an aux input that I use, but the frustrating >> part about that is you have to mute the actual audio mixer track that >> you are recording to in order not to get a "flanging" type sound while >> recording (it does not go to disk that way though.) >> >> What can I do here. I never had this problem with ASIO. > > When setting input levels simply make sure you actually punch into record. > Then you will hear the audio and the meters will move. Once the level is set > just delete the audio go for real. Boring I know. I ran into this when I > moved over to TDM also. It's the only workaround I found. > How about this for a workaround - hold down the record button and toggle 'auto input monitoring"... Regards Malcolm
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 8:45:51 PM
Subject: test
Message #9203
This is a reply to #9202.
Can someone please reply when this message makes it through...? Thanx, Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de
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From: Bobo Mark <bobo@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 1:09:18 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] test
Message #9204
This is a reply to #9203.
on 2/24/02 6:45 PM, Peter Duemmler at merlin@... wrote: > Can someone please reply when this message makes it through...? > > Thanx, Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > test , i do -- Thanks and regards, Bobo Mark Producer Contact: bobo@... For and On behalf of Music 2000 **************************************************************************** Come! Visit our website at http://www.music2000.com.hk "May Music Moves Your Heart" ****************************************************************************
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@...>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 at 9:52:31 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9205
This is a reply to #9202.
Malcolm Payne on 25/2/02 1:23 PM, Malcolm Payne at mpmusicny@... wrote: >> >> When setting input levels simply make sure you actually punch into record. >> Then you will hear the audio and the meters will move. Once the level is set >> just delete the audio go for real. Boring I know. I ran into this when I >> moved over to TDM also. It's the only workaround I found. >> > > How about this for a workaround - hold down the record button and toggle > 'auto input monitoring"... It's so strange to forget about these odd things. From years of running a native rig and having this whole thing be so intuitive that I never had to think about it, then moving to a TDM system and all of a sudden going, huh? and never bothering to pick up a manual to figure what those monitoring options really meant. I just got into the habit of actually going into record to set up an input level and not bothering to work out the smart way of doing it. -- ==/==/==/==/==/==/==/==/= Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production http://www.jaminajar.com.au
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From: Barry Young/Young Creative <ycmail@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 7:25:48 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9206
This is a reply to #9205.
I guess tape is truly dead. My old Otari had input monitor settings per track! You could punch in/out band members (remember those?) one instrument at a time on the fly. Of course, you had to be careful not to screw it up! Input monitoring is something those old ADAT folks can tell you about too, if any are still alive. -- Barry Young Young Creative > From: Paul Najar <pnajar@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:52:31 +1100 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring > > Malcolm Payne on 25/2/02 1:23 PM, Malcolm Payne at mpmusicny@... > wrote: > >>> >>> When setting input levels simply make sure you actually punch into record. >>> Then you will hear the audio and the meters will move. Once the level is set >>> just delete the audio go for real. Boring I know. I ran into this when I >>> moved over to TDM also. It's the only workaround I found. >>> >> >> How about this for a workaround - hold down the record button and toggle >> 'auto input monitoring"... > > It's so strange to forget about these odd things. From years of running a > native rig and having this whole thing be so intuitive that I never had to > think about it, then moving to a TDM system and all of a sudden going, huh? > and never bothering to pick up a manual to figure what those monitoring > options really meant. I just got into the habit of actually going into > record to set up an input level and not bothering to work out the smart way > of doing it. > > > -- > ==/==/==/==/==/==/==/==/=> > Paul Najar > Jaminajar Music Production > http://www.jaminajar.com.au > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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From: Barry Young/Young Creative <ycmail@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 7:29:38 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9207
This is a reply to #9202.
I don't think I can live with this limitation. Why can't Emagic make a program that knows when I want to hear my guitar instead of what's on "tape"? -- Barry Young Young Creative > From: Malcolm Payne <mpmusicny@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:23:26 -0500 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring > > On 2/24/02 6:40 PM, "Paul Najar" <pnajar@...> wrote: > >> B.D. Brown on 24/2/02 2:37 AM, B.D. Brown at bduronb@... wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have logic 4.7 on TDM. In the mixer page when recording audio, I am >>> using punch on the fly and auto input monitoring just as I did when I >>> had ASIO(with software monitoring.) >>> >>> My problem is this. When recording audio be it from MIDI in logic or a >>> vocal, when the sequencer is stopped everything is fine as far as a >>> vocal is concerned, but when I have the sequencer going to test the >>> level of MIDI being recorded it does not come through when the in play, >>> but as I stop it, a second on audio is heard? >>> >>> What can I do here. I have an aux input that I use, but the frustrating >>> part about that is you have to mute the actual audio mixer track that >>> you are recording to in order not to get a "flanging" type sound while >>> recording (it does not go to disk that way though.) >>> >>> What can I do here. I never had this problem with ASIO. >> >> When setting input levels simply make sure you actually punch into record. >> Then you will hear the audio and the meters will move. Once the level is set >> just delete the audio go for real. Boring I know. I ran into this when I >> moved over to TDM also. It's the only workaround I found. >> > > How about this for a workaround - hold down the record button and toggle > 'auto input monitoring"... > > Regards > > Malcolm > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 7:31:51 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9208
This is a reply to #9207.
??? That´s the standard behaviour I know (like on ProTools, Adats, tape machines, whatever), no? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Young/Young Creative" <ycmail@...> To: "Logic users group" <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring > I don't think I can live with this limitation. Why can't Emagic make a > program that knows when I want to hear my guitar instead of what's on > "tape"? > -- > > Barry Young > Young Creative > > > > From: Malcolm Payne <mpmusicny@...> > > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:23:26 -0500 > > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring > > > > On 2/24/02 6:40 PM, "Paul Najar" <pnajar@...> wrote: > > > >> B.D. Brown on 24/2/02 2:37 AM, B.D. Brown at bduronb@... wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I have logic 4.7 on TDM. In the mixer page when recording audio, I am > >>> using punch on the fly and auto input monitoring just as I did when I > >>> had ASIO(with software monitoring.) > >>> > >>> My problem is this. When recording audio be it from MIDI in logic or a > >>> vocal, when the sequencer is stopped everything is fine as far as a > >>> vocal is concerned, but when I have the sequencer going to test the > >>> level of MIDI being recorded it does not come through when the in play, > >>> but as I stop it, a second on audio is heard? > >>> > >>> What can I do here. I have an aux input that I use, but the frustrating > >>> part about that is you have to mute the actual audio mixer track that > >>> you are recording to in order not to get a "flanging" type sound while > >>> recording (it does not go to disk that way though.) > >>> > >>> What can I do here. I never had this problem with ASIO. > >> > >> When setting input levels simply make sure you actually punch into record. > >> Then you will hear the audio and the meters will move. Once the level is set > >> just delete the audio go for real. Boring I know. I ran into this when I > >> moved over to TDM also. It's the only workaround I found. > >> > > > > How about this for a workaround - hold down the record button and toggle > > 'auto input monitoring"... > > > > Regards > > > > Malcolm
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From: "B.D. Brown" <bduronb@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 8:25:42 AM
Subject: Re: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9209
Thanks for all the responses. There has to be a setting that takes care of this so that Auto input monitoring does not have to be toggled. Do you guys use logic as the front end or do you sequence in logic and do all audio in PT and not have to worry about this? I do Rap music and have to edit out explicit words is in song. I found that doing this in PT was actually more work that in logic, PLEASE correct me if I am not doing something right but here is how it works in Logic for me and PT: Logic: Open wave, find word by clicking up top without having to select a "tool" click on the area, hit reverse and done! PT: Wave form is already there, choose scrubber find word, loose my place while going up to get selector tool, highlight an area by guessing where I was, go back and get scrubber to verify, go back and get selector and mark area. Choose capture region(in logic you just hit reverse and keep moving and you are offered the choice to back up) and then hit reverse. Now you have to go the audio are on the right and pull this audio back into the waveform area (hoping that you put it exactly where it goes) and there you are! PLEASE tell me what I am doing or not doing to make this easier. I am new to PT (5.1.3 is the version I have) and bought it thinking that I was supposed to be so great. I am sure that it is and that I am just missing something that you guy already know to make this quicker. Please help me as I did not see anything in my 4.2 Mix Plus manual that touched on this(original system was 4.2 with upgrade to 5.1.3) Also, how do you get the allocator program. I did not find it on my 5.1 or 5.1.3 CD? Thanks Bobby
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From: "B.D. Brown" <bduronb@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 8:28:15 AM
Subject: Re: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9210
Thanks for all the responses. Peter yours was the first that I saw, so your message did get through and I surely appreciate it. However, there has to be a setting that takes care of this so that Auto input monitoring does not have to be toggled as this does not have to be done in native. Maybe it is just one of those things if logic offers TDM or DAE as an engine it shoud be a "free flowing" as ASIO. Do you guys use logic as the front end or do you sequence in logic and do all audio in PT and not have to worry about this? I do Rap music and have to edit out explicit words is in song. I found that doing this in PT was actually more work that in logic, PLEASE correct me if I am not doing something right but here is how it works in Logic for me and PT: Logic: Open wave, find word by clicking up top without having to select a "tool" click on the area, hit reverse and done! PT: Wave form is already there, choose scrubber find word, loose my place while going up to get selector tool, highlight an area by guessing where I was, go back and get scrubber to verify, go back and get selector and mark area. Choose capture region(in logic you just hit reverse and keep moving and you are offered the choice to back up) and then hit reverse. Now you have to go the audio are on the right and pull this audio back into the waveform area (hoping that you put it exactly where it goes) and there you are! PLEASE tell me what I am doing or not doing to make this easier. I am new to PT (5.1.3 is the version I have) and bought it thinking that I was supposed to be so great. I am sure that it is and that I am just missing something that you guy already know to make this quicker. Please help me as I did not see anything in my 4.2 Mix Plus manual that touched on this(original system was 4.2 with upgrade to 5.1.3) Also, how do you get the allocator program. I did not find it on my 5.1 or 5.1.3 CD? Thanks Bobby
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From: "B.D. Brown" <bduronb@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 8:29:09 AM
Subject: Re: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9211
Thanks for all the responses. Peter yours was the first that I saw, so your message did get through and I surely appreciate it. There has to be a setting that takes care of this so that Auto input monitoring does not have to be toggled as this does not have to be done in native. Maybe it is just one of those things, but I say if logic offers TDM or DAE as an engine it shoud be as"free flowing" as ASIO for the cost! Do you guys use logic as the front end or do you sequence in logic and do all audio in PT and not have to worry about this? I do Rap music and have to edit out explicit words is in song. I found that doing this in PT was actually more work that in logic, PLEASE correct me if I am not doing something right but here is how it works in Logic for me and PT: Logic: Open wave, find word by clicking up top without having to select a "tool" click on the area, hit reverse and done! PT: Wave form is already there, choose scrubber find word, loose my place while going up to get selector tool, highlight an area by guessing where I was, go back and get scrubber to verify, go back and get selector and mark area. Choose capture region(in logic you just hit reverse and keep moving and you are offered the choice to back up) and then hit reverse. Now you have to go the audio are on the right and pull this audio back into the waveform area (hoping that you put it exactly where it goes) and there you are! PLEASE tell me what I am doing or not doing to make this easier. I am new to PT (5.1.3 is the version I have) and bought it thinking that I was supposed to be so great. I am sure that it is and that I am just missing something that you guy already know to make this quicker. Please help me as I did not see anything in my 4.2 Mix Plus manual that touched on this(original system was 4.2 with upgrade to 5.1.3) Also, how do you get the allocator program. I did not find it on my 5.1 or 5.1.3 CD? Thanks Bobby
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From: ChaplainPC@...
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 8:29:10 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9212
In a message dated 2/25/02 9:26:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, bduronb@... writes: > allocator program. I did not find it on my 5.1 or 5.1.3 CD? > > Allocator is now a part of the PT application. Ols Allocator App should work with logic. Pete
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 8:32:00 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9213
This is a reply to #9210.
Bobby, I don´t think I understand what you mean (can you explain how the monitoring works with ASIO? Don´t you hear the track vs. the input when playing there?). IMO Auto Input Monitoring works as it should, and to me it´s no hassle to toggle it when I need to. BTW: What do you mean with "reverse"? Delete? Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "B.D. Brown" <bduronb@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: [L-TDM] Re: recording audio and monitoring > Thanks for all the responses. Peter yours was the first that I saw, so your message > did get through and I surely appreciate it. However, there has to be a setting that > takes care of this so that Auto input monitoring does not have to be toggled as this > does not have to be done in native. Maybe it is just one of those things if logic > offers TDM or DAE as an engine it shoud be a "free flowing" as ASIO. > > Do you guys use logic as the front end or do you sequence in logic and do all audio > in PT and not have to worry about this? > > I do Rap music and have to edit out explicit words is in song. I found that doing > this in PT was actually more work that in logic, PLEASE correct me if I am not doing > something right but here is how it works in Logic for me and PT: > > Logic: > > Open wave, find word by clicking up top without having to select a "tool" click on > the area, hit reverse and done! > > PT: > Wave form is already there, choose scrubber find word, loose my place while going up > to get selector tool, highlight an area by guessing where I was, go back and get > scrubber to verify, go back and get selector and mark area. Choose capture region(in > logic you just hit reverse and keep moving and you are offered the choice to back > up) and then hit reverse. Now you have to go the audio are on the right and pull > this audio back into the waveform area (hoping that you put it exactly where it > goes) and there you are! > > PLEASE tell me what I am doing or not doing to make this easier. I am new to PT > (5.1.3 is the version I have) and bought it thinking that I was supposed to be so > great. I am sure that it is and that I am just missing something that you guy > already know to make this quicker. > > Please help me as I did not see anything in my 4.2 Mix Plus manual that touched on > this(original system was 4.2 with upgrade to 5.1.3) > > Also, how do you get the allocator program. I did not find it on my 5.1 or 5.1.3 CD? > > Thanks > > > Bobby
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From: Glenn Gutierrez <gutierrezglenn@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 8:32:43 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9214
This is a reply to #9208.
At 2:31 PM +0100 2002.02.25, Peter Duemmler wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Barry Young/Young Creative" <ycmail@...> > >> I don't think I can live with this limitation. Why can't Emagic make a >> program that knows when I want to hear my guitar instead of what's on >> "tape"? > > -- >> >> Barry Young >> Young Creative > >??? >That´s the standard behaviour I know (like on ProTools, Adats, tape >machines, whatever), no? I think I remember Cubase 4 having a "tape monitor" mode, and you could click on/off each channel. I looked around for that in Logic when I first got my TDM system up and running. I've now settled for turning Auto Input Monitoring off, and record-enabling each channel I need to hear. By the way, that's a real drag when you want to enable many channels. Is there a shortcut? It'd be REAL handy if channels saved their rec states in Autoload. Glenn _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: Glenn Gutierrez <gutierrezglenn@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 8:38:25 AM
Subject: Allocator (was: recording audio and monitoring)
Message #9215
This is a reply to #9212.
I grabbed the old Allocator plug from Digi's site, and installed it in the DAE folder. But everywhere I try to instantiate it inside Logic, it's grayed out. How does one actually use it? :) Glenn _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 8:43:35 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Allocator (was: recording audio and monitoring)
Message #9216
This is a reply to #9215.
You don´t need to put it in the DAE folder. It´s an application you start by double-clicking it from within the Finder. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Gutierrez" <gutierrezglenn@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: [L-TDM] Allocator (was: recording audio and monitoring) > I grabbed the old Allocator plug from Digi's site, and installed it > in the DAE folder. But everywhere I try to instantiate it inside > Logic, it's grayed out. How does one actually use it? :) > > Glenn
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 9:04:29 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Allocator (was: recording audio and monitoring)
Message #9217
This is a reply to #9215.
gutierrezglenn@... writes: >I grabbed the old Allocator plug from Digi's site, and >installed it in the DAE folder. But everywhere I try to >instantiate it inside Logic, it's grayed out. This isn't a plugin, it's a stand-alone application that tells you how much DSP horsepower is being used up on the TDM cards. It doesn't need to be installed anywhere particular. The Allocator has been discontinued by Digidesign. Instead, it is built inside PT software since PT5. Luckily, that old stand-alone application still works with Logic and DAE 5.x. It probably will NOT work with the new PT HD hardware, but what the hell do I know? f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"
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From: Glenn Gutierrez <gutierrezglenn@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 9:28:17 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Allocator (was: recording audio and monitoring)
Message #9218
At 10:04 AM -0500 2002.02.25, f-erenc szabo wrote: >gutierrezglenn@... writes: >>I grabbed the old Allocator plug from Digi's site, and >>installed it in the DAE folder. But everywhere I try to >>instantiate it inside Logic, it's grayed out. > >This isn't a plugin, it's a stand-alone application that >tells you how much DSP horsepower is being used up >on the TDM cards. That's why! LOL.. I knew what it was, just not how to use it. Running it now. It actually shows available RAM and disk space too. Pretty cool. Funny thing was, it actually showed up in the DAE plug-ins menus. :) Thanks! G _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: "hokisuk" <cholak@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 7:00:33 PM
Subject: ESB and new environments
Message #9219
Dear all, I have recently installed the ESB using LAP 4.7.2 and Mixplus hardware but now im stuck !!! The TDM environment side was setup for me when I got the gear but now Im really in trouble!! 1) How do you setup native tracks , say 24. 2) And virtual instruments ?? 3) Also I only appear to have 4 aux channels, is that right ?? I know I have to setup some stuff in the environment but I would greatly appreciate some help, or if someone could direct me to a website for this info. Many thanks in advance. HokisUK
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From: "Scott Katz" <scotkatz@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 7:08:05 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] ESB and new environments
Message #9220
This is a reply to #9219.
Hi, I found this email on the list quite a while ago and I hope this will help you. Jon Cotton was answering some questions for someone. > > Hi Mary > > > > when you installed ESB it should have installed a TDM plugin called > > "ESX-24'. > >Yes it did - thats how I realized I might be able to use EX24 in >ProTools. > > Bring up an aux. channel in your TDM environment > >in Protools or Logic? When I assign it to an aux in ProTools I get >the Direct connect plugin pop up, but it says no links are available. > Hi Mary. I am talking about using Logic, for all this. I don't think ESX-24 TDM functions in PT currently (I could be wrong). > > insert this plugin on the first insert, then assign the aux to an > > arrange track to be able to play it with MIDI. > >Again is this in ProTools or Logic. I have my midi tracks in >Protools and simply want to use Ex24 as a sampler. Do I need to play >my midi tracks from Logic? yes, and of course you'll have to use Logic's audio side also if you want to access ESX-24 Good luck! Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "hokisuk" <cholak@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: [L-TDM] ESB and new environments > Dear all, > > I have recently installed the ESB using LAP 4.7.2 and Mixplus > hardware but now im stuck !!! The TDM environment side was setup > for me when I got the gear but now Im really in trouble!! > > 1) How do you setup native tracks , say 24. > > 2) And virtual instruments ?? > > 3) Also I only appear to have 4 aux channels, is that right ?? > > I know I have to setup some stuff in the environment but I would > greatly appreciate some help, or if someone could direct me to a > website for this info. > > Many thanks in advance. > > HokisUK > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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From: Barry Young <bwyoung@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 7:56:26 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring
Message #9221
This is a reply to #9208.
'twas my dry wit, it got the better of me. -- Barry Young > From: Peter Duemmler <merlin@...> > Organization: MerlinSound > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:31:51 +0100 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring > > ??? > That´s the standard behaviour I know (like on ProTools, Adats, tape > machines, whatever), no? > > Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry Young/Young Creative" <ycmail@...> > To: "Logic users group" <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring > > >> I don't think I can live with this limitation. Why can't Emagic make a >> program that knows when I want to hear my guitar instead of what's on >> "tape"? >> -- >> >> Barry Young >> Young Creative >> >> >>> From: Malcolm Payne <mpmusicny@...> >>> Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:23:26 -0500 >>> To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [L-TDM] LAM: recording audio and monitoring >>> >>> On 2/24/02 6:40 PM, "Paul Najar" <pnajar@...> wrote: >>> >>>> B.D. Brown on 24/2/02 2:37 AM, B.D. Brown at bduronb@... > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I have logic 4.7 on TDM. In the mixer page when recording audio, I am >>>>> using punch on the fly and auto input monitoring just as I did when I >>>>> had ASIO(with software monitoring.) >>>>> >>>>> My problem is this. When recording audio be it from MIDI in logic or a >>>>> vocal, when the sequencer is stopped everything is fine as far as a >>>>> vocal is concerned, but when I have the sequencer going to test the >>>>> level of MIDI being recorded it does not come through when the in > play, >>>>> but as I stop it, a second on audio is heard? >>>>> >>>>> What can I do here. I have an aux input that I use, but the > frustrating >>>>> part about that is you have to mute the actual audio mixer track that >>>>> you are recording to in order not to get a "flanging" type sound while >>>>> recording (it does not go to disk that way though.) >>>>> >>>>> What can I do here. I never had this problem with ASIO. >>>> >>>> When setting input levels simply make sure you actually punch into > record. >>>> Then you will hear the audio and the meters will move. Once the level > is set >>>> just delete the audio go for real. Boring I know. I ran into this when > I >>>> moved over to TDM also. It's the only workaround I found. >>>> >>> >>> How about this for a workaround - hold down the record button and toggle >>> 'auto input monitoring"... >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Malcolm > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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From: "hamptonmustdie" <rob@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 at 9:34:34 PM
Subject: Re: ESB and new environments
Message #9222
This is a reply to #9219.
--- In logic-tdm@y..., "hokisuk" <cholak@b...> wrote: > Dear all, > I have recently installed the ESB using LAP 4.7.2 and Mixplus > hardware but now im stuck !!! The TDM environment side was setup > for me when I got the gear but now Im really in trouble!! > > 1) How do you setup native tracks , say 24. Copy or create a bunch of new objects (faders), and change the device for those objects to DTDM in the parameter box to the left. There you can also assign each object as an audio track, bus, aux, audio instrument, whatever. In my environment I have a native mixer set up underneath my TDM mixer. > > 2) And virtual instruments ?? See above. > 3) Also I only appear to have 4 aux channels, is that right ?? The number of available auxes increases dynamically as you assign more. > I know I have to setup some stuff in the environment but I would > greatly appreciate some help, or if someone could direct me to a > website for this info. In your native mixer you will have eight possible outputs for each object. In your TDM mixer, you can use aux channels as ESB inputs; just instanciate mono or stereo ESB plugins on the first insert, and in the plugin window assign which of the DTDM channels to receive from. > Many thanks in advance. > > HokisUK No sweat. If you need more help you can contact me directly... Rob DeBoer
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From: Wim Claes <wimclaes@...>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 at 3:22:05 PM
Subject: ESB unselectable in TDM plug-inlist
Message #9223
I've just installed esb tdm; installation was succesfull, but the item esb is visable (grey) but unselectable in my plug-inlist. DTDM and DAE are selected in my hardware setup. I can select DTDM in an audio object, but when I change a DAE audio object into a DTDM object, nothing happens (no sound, no audio is coming in...) When I put off DAE and DTDM and I switch on I/O I can select VST plug-ins and I can hear a sound. Does anybody knows what I have to do? I have re-installed esb tdm, without succes. There is also another problem: when I put on DTDM, my audio volumesettings aren't correct anymore; I hear the audio volumechanges on other places than I've drawned them. Without DTDM everything works fine. My configuration: LAP 4.8.1, protools cube en g4/733 os 9.2 - 384 mb, 2x 18 giga externe harddisks, unitor 8 en amt 8 Thanks for helping me! Wim Claes
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From: Malcolm Payne <mpmusicny@...>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 at 3:38:21 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] ESB unselectable in TDM plug-inlist
Message #9224
This is a reply to #9223.
On 2/26/02 4:22 PM, "Wim Claes" <wimclaes@...> wrote: > I've just installed esb tdm; installation was succesfull, but the item esb > is visable (grey) but unselectable in my plug-inlist. DTDM and DAE are > selected in my hardware setup. I can select DTDM in an audio object, but > when I change a DAE audio object into a DTDM object, nothing happens (no > sound, no audio is coming in...) > When I put off DAE and DTDM and I switch on I/O I can select VST plug-ins > and I can hear a sound. > Does anybody knows what I have to do? I have re-installed esb tdm, without > succes. > There is also another problem: when I put on DTDM, my audio volumesettings > aren't correct anymore; I hear the audio volumechanges on other places than > I've drawned them. Without DTDM everything works fine. > My configuration: LAP 4.8.1, protools cube en g4/733 os 9.2 - 384 mb, 2x 18 > giga externe harddisks, unitor 8 en amt 8 > > Thanks for helping me! > Wim Claes > Wim, I'm thinking you have it instanced on a track. This doesn't work. You need to put it on an aux (or a bus). Regards Malcolm
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From: Jon Cotton <jon.sunflower@...>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 at 6:33:51 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] ESB unselectable in TDM plug-inlist
Message #9225
This is a reply to #9224.
>On 2/26/02 4:22 PM, "Wim Claes" <wimclaes@...> wrote: > > > I've just installed esb tdm; installation was succesfull, but the item esb > > is visable (grey) but unselectable in my plug-inlist. DTDM and DAE are > > selected in my hardware setup. I can select DTDM in an audio object, but > > when I change a DAE audio object into a DTDM object, nothing happens (no > > sound, no audio is coming in...) > > When I put off DAE and DTDM and I switch on I/O I can select VST plug-ins > > and I can hear a sound. > > Does anybody knows what I have to do? I have re-installed esb tdm, without > > succes. > > There is also another problem: when I put on DTDM, my audio volumesettings > > aren't correct anymore; I hear the audio volumechanges on other places than > > I've drawned them. Without DTDM everything works fine. > > My configuration: LAP 4.8.1, protools cube en g4/733 os 9.2 - 384 mb, 2x 18 > > giga externe harddisks, unitor 8 en amt 8 > > > > Thanks for helping me! > > Wim Claes > > > >Wim, > >I'm thinking you have it instanced on a track. This doesn't work. You need >to put it on an aux (or a bus). .....in the first slot. Jon Cotton "Snowmen fall from heaven unassembled" Gramophone the album http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk Artisan Audio / Artisan Records http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/
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