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From: Marc Schlaile <ms_lists@...>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 at 7:38:03 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3
Message #8976
This is a reply to #8974.
i don't think it'll make the emagic support more efficient when you put them on CC... but anyway- it might sound hard but try to move on, ADB is dead... actually since years. people complain about digi's PCI buss errors, FW might be a way to handle bigger audio stream in a more pleasant way. in other words: some users complain on the side effect of legacy technology, other ones like you have their reasons not to move one. i guess it's hard to please everybody. the new emagic dongle will make things easier for the average user, no key-disc etc. and i doubt that many manufacturers are keen on challenge response anymore. take a look at http://www.paceap.com/ and check the pro audio developer's link... -marc > Von: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> > Organisation: MerlinSound > Antworten an: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Datum: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 01:54:15 +0100 > An: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Cc: "TecCenter, EMAGIC" <support@...> > Betreff: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 > > Yes, I could. > But: I´m using 2 10k rpm Seagate Cheetahs that were/are megabucks and > mega-reliable. If I drop the SCSI card they´re gone. > Removing the graphic card would not help, a dual monitor card would also use > the slot (the first one is onboard). > And switching to Firewire would mean at least €150 for the card and €500 for > the new drives. > And will I be able to use 64 tracks with Firewire and TDM? With SCSI I can. > Are Firewire cards even supported by Digi for TDM systems? > > And it seems I just threw some money (for the USB card) out of the window > for nothing. At least I tried. :-/ > > A lot of trouble for the new dongle that SHOULD make things easier. > If emagic would supply us with a challenge-response system for older > machines like every other manufacturer I know of does (even Bombfactory!) > all would be well. > > Hey, am I the only one who uses a TDM system on a beige G3 / expansion > chassis and wants to use Logic-5??? What are the rest of you doing about it? > > (BTW: Sorry for quoting the whole thing, but I cc the mail to emagic > support.) > > Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Schlaile" <ms_lists@...> > To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:37 AM > Subject: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 > > > as i said before, i could be wrong. only emagic knows what's compatible... > > -marc > > ps you might consider exchanging your SCSI card for a combi USB/firewire > card. since i've switched to FW a while ago and i really don't regret it. > cheaper disc, easy handling and my investments are fairly save for a while. > or you could exchange the graphic card for a dual-one. > > >> Von: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> >> Organisation: MerlinSound >> Antworten an: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com >> Datum: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:49:16 +0100 >> An: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com>, "TecCenter, EMAGIC" <support@...> >> Betreff: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 >> >> Wow! >> If that really is the case I´m fu**ed with my (perfectly working) beige >> G3-300MT. >> I´m not gonna remove the 2nd graphics card or SCSI card (both powerful and >> needed for my work) to be able to run the USB card ONLY FOR THE NEW > DONGLE. >> Both above cards don´t work in the expansion chassis together with my >> ProTools cards either (Mix-Core, Mix-Farm, 3 DSP-Farms, SampleCell II+ > TDM). >> There´s only the 7th. slot in the expansion chassis left for the USB > card... >> If emagic requires an USB port then they should tell me which USB card can >> run in an expansion chassis! >> >> IMO I´m not the only one that can´t upgrade to Logic5 if the above doesn´t >> work. >> And I´m not buying a new Mac only for the dongle, I´ll definitely wait for >> the 2nd generation G5... >> >> Regards, Peter >> --- >> http://www.merlinsound.de >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marc Schlaile" <ms_lists@...> >> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 >> >> >> the usb card needs to be in the mac, not in the expansion chassis. i doubt >> that the generic mac usb drivers can access the card inside an expansion >> chassis. >> >> -marc >> >>> Von: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> >>> Organisation: MerlinSound >>> Antworten an: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com >>> Datum: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:49:08 +0100 >>> An: "daw-mac" <daw-mac@yahoogroups.com>, "L-TDM" >> <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com>, >>> "LUG" <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> >>> Betreff: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I just installed an USB adapter card (Thrustmaster, USB 1.0, two USB >> ports) >>> in a Bit-3 7-slot chassis (last free slot). >>> The dealer told me it is supported through Apple´s USB adapter card >> software >>> (which I installed; I also tried USB overdrive). >>> I tried putting an old iMac mouse on one of the two USB ports but it >> doesn´t >>> work... :-/ >>> >>> I intend to use the card for the Logic Audio 5 dongle. >>> >>> Is anybody using an USB card in a similar configuration? >>> Does it work? >>> Does it show up somewhere in the Apple system profiler? >>> How else can I check whether the card works or how can I make it work? >>> >>> Thanx, >>> Peter >>> --- >>> http://www.merlinsound.de > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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From: ACohenhead@...
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 12:25:30 AM
Subject: Sample Accurate editing
Message #8977
Does anyone know if Logic 5.0 is going to be capable of sample accurate editing? I still find that if I edit a set of drum tracks - the cut is not even across all tracks. Is there something that I'm missing? If I am missing something then how can I cut audio evenly down to the sample on one or more than one track at the same time. I feel like I am limited to the rough midi grid in logic (vs. protools) Thanks in advance -Adam
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From: Will Thomson <will@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 3:28:09 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3
Message #8978
Peter, >Hey, am I the only one who uses a TDM system on a beige G3 / expansion >chassis and wants to use Logic-5??? What are the rest of you doing about it? We use Logic & PT TDM on a G3 beige (a very reliable setup to date). My current plan is not to upgrade to v5 for now, not an option I favour (having always upgraded in the past), but a situation I feel has been forced upon our studio by Emagic's policy. Regards, Will Thomson, Dynamic Audio Production, U.K. >Yes, I could. >But: Im using 2 10k rpm Seagate Cheetahs that were/are megabucks and >mega-reliable. If I drop the SCSI card theyre gone. >Removing the graphic card would not help, a dual monitor card would also use >the slot (the first one is onboard). >And switching to Firewire would mean at least 150 for the card and 500 for >the new drives. >And will I be able to use 64 tracks with Firewire and TDM? With SCSI I can. >Are Firewire cards even supported by Digi for TDM systems? > >And it seems I just threw some money (for the USB card) out of the window >for nothing. At least I tried. :-/ > >A lot of trouble for the new dongle that SHOULD make things easier. >If emagic would supply us with a challenge-response system for older >machines like every other manufacturer I know of does (even Bombfactory!) >all would be well. > >Hey, am I the only one who uses a TDM system on a beige G3 / expansion >chassis and wants to use Logic-5??? What are the rest of you doing about it? > >(BTW: Sorry for quoting the whole thing, but I cc the mail to emagic >support.) > >Peter >--- >http://www.merlinsound.de > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marc Schlaile" <ms_lists@...> >To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:37 AM >Subject: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 > > >as i said before, i could be wrong. only emagic knows what's compatible... > >-marc > >ps you might consider exchanging your SCSI card for a combi USB/firewire >card. since i've switched to FW a while ago and i really don't regret it. >cheaper disc, easy handling and my investments are fairly save for a while. >or you could exchange the graphic card for a dual-one. > > >> Von: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> >> Organisation: MerlinSound >> Antworten an: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com >> Datum: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:49:16 +0100 >> An: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com>, "TecCenter, EMAGIC" <support@...> >> Betreff: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 >> >> Wow! >> If that really is the case Im fu**ed with my (perfectly working) beige >> G3-300MT. >> Im not gonna remove the 2nd graphics card or SCSI card (both powerful and >> needed for my work) to be able to run the USB card ONLY FOR THE NEW >DONGLE. >> Both above cards dont work in the expansion chassis together with my >> ProTools cards either (Mix-Core, Mix-Farm, 3 DSP-Farms, SampleCell II+ >TDM). >> Theres only the 7th. slot in the expansion chassis left for the USB >card... >> If emagic requires an USB port then they should tell me which USB card can >> run in an expansion chassis! >> >> IMO Im not the only one that cant upgrade to Logic5 if the above doesnt >> work. >> And Im not buying a new Mac only for the dongle, Ill definitely wait for >> the 2nd generation G5... >> >> Regards, Peter >> --- >> http://www.merlinsound.de >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marc Schlaile" <ms_lists@...> >> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 >> >> >> the usb card needs to be in the mac, not in the expansion chassis. i doubt >> that the generic mac usb drivers can access the card inside an expansion >> chassis. >> >> -marc >> >>> Von: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...> >>> Organisation: MerlinSound >>> Antworten an: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com >>> Datum: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:49:08 +0100 >>> An: "daw-mac" <daw-mac@yahoogroups.com>, "L-TDM" >> <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com>, >>> "LUG" <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> >>> Betreff: [L-TDM] USB-card in beige G3 >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I just installed an USB adapter card (Thrustmaster, USB 1.0, two USB >> ports) >>> in a Bit-3 7-slot chassis (last free slot). >>> The dealer told me it is supported through Apples USB adapter card >> software >>> (which I installed; I also tried USB overdrive). >>> I tried putting an old iMac mouse on one of the two USB ports but it >> doesnt >>> work... :-/ >>> >>> I intend to use the card for the Logic Audio 5 dongle. >>> >>> Is anybody using an USB card in a similar configuration? >>> Does it work? >>> Does it show up somewhere in the Apple system profiler? >>> How else can I check whether the card works or how can I make it work? >>> >>> Thanx, >>> Peter >>> --- >>> http://www.merlinsound.de > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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From: Jonathan Bepler <jbep@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 9:20:02 AM
Subject: Dual monitor recommendations
Message #8979
Hi all, Any recommendations for a dual monitor setup with G4 533? Which large, inexpensive monitors are good at the moment? What's the current choice for dual monitor card? I need a card(s) that can run together with: pt mix plus miro dc30+ Currently I run an old trinitron 20" off of an old ATI card (In addition to apple studio mon 17" on agp), and get 'PCI bus too busy' when doing anything slightly demanding graphically in logic. Would like to replace both monitors with larger, clearer ones, if it's affordable. thanks, Jonathan
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From: Jonathan Bepler <jbep@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 9:25:00 AM
Subject: Re: LAMP - Internal IDE drives...
Message #8980
I have 3 Western Digital caviars- 2 80 GBs and a 100 GB- working quietly and quickly over here. pretty cheap from Other World Computing J
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From: Jonathan Bepler <jbep@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 9:33:47 AM
Subject: Kik-starting TDM?
Message #8981
Here's a small but annoying problem. When I start logic (with mix plus in g4) there will be no sound output through 888 until I tweak some setting in Digi control panel (eg change sample rate, then change back, etc..). Then there is that tiny pop and it's live. anyone seen this?
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From: Barry Young/Young Creative <ycmail@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 9:38:30 AM
Subject: Processor upgrade G4 350 to G4...?
Message #8982
I¹ve got a G4 350 AGP (the sawtooth circa 2000) that I was thinking of pressing back into service as my PT machine. My question is; what¹s the skinny on processor upgrades? Are they worth it, or should I just sell the thing and get a Quicksilver? I know for one thing that my memory is 100megahertz instead of 133 like the newer machines, and also the ethernet is faster on the new ones. I have a DVD-Ram in this machine that¹s kind of handy for backing up, although it¹s only 2.6M per side. Any thoughts from users out there? I already have a G-port so I can use my serial midi interface. This machine was originally my PT machine, but I found a B/W G3 450 that I¹ve been using and have had less trouble with PCI bus errors, however I¹d like more native power. Oh yeah, to make a long post longer: How about using the Promax dual card with my existing analog 17² monitors? I¹ll have to peruse the archivesto find some discussions I remember seeing, but any one have a quick overview of the ins & outs on that subject? Thanks -- Barry Young
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From: klimax@...
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 9:37:25 AM
Subject: OT Adat bridge
Message #8983
Hi, I have an ADAT Bridge 24 (8 months old/mint condition) to sell. Would ship within Europe. Y-Cable also available. If somebody is interested please mail me an offer in EURO privately. Greetings
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From: Marc Schlaile <ms_lists@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 9:43:43 AM
Subject: powercore and protools
Message #8984
hi there, peter asked the other day if the powercore and protools can run at the same time. i've just got a reply from TC: yes they can (they haven't tried PT|HD yet). -marc
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From: "hamptonmustdie" <rob@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 9:55:43 AM
Subject: Re: Processor upgrade G4 350 to G4...?
Message #8985
This is a reply to #8982.
I'm running two 17" Trinitrons off the Promax card. There are a couple of semi-annoying redraw bugs, but nothing TOO terrible. Generally it's working well for me. Rob DeBoer --- In logic-tdm@y..., Barry Young/Young Creative <ycmail@s...> wrote: > > Oh yeah, to make a long post longer: How about using the Promax dual card > with my existing analog 17² monitors? ]
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From: Jon Cotton <jon.sunflower@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 9:51:00 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Kik-starting TDM?
Message #8986
This is a reply to #8981.
>Here's a small but annoying problem. > >When I start logic (with mix plus in g4) there will be no sound output >through 888 until I tweak some setting in Digi control panel (eg change >sample rate, then change back, etc..). Then there is that tiny pop and it's >live. > >anyone seen this? > trashed digisetup? Jon Cotton "Just give me a bloody 4 track and an acoustic guitar" Gramophone http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk Artisan Audio / Artisan Records http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 11:02:20 AM
Subject: USB card pt.2
Message #8987
Hi! I tested the USB card in a Mac PCI-slot. It shows up in the Apple System Profiler, but the iMac Mouse I attached for testing doesn´t work there either (tested with Apple drivers and USB overdrive). The card seems to have a VIA chipset, I´m trying to get a card with OPTi 82C861 (recommended by emagic, though not in an expansion chassis - they don´t recommend Firewire/USB combo cards, either... :-/ ) and I´ll test that, too. to be continued... Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 10:58:33 AM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] powercore and protools
Message #8988
This is a reply to #8984.
Great news! Thanx, Marc! Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Schlaile" <ms_lists@...> To: "Logic TDM List" <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: [L-TDM] powercore and protools > hi there, > > peter asked the other day if the powercore and protools can run at the same > time. i've just got a reply from TC: yes they can (they haven't tried PT|HD > yet).
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From: Michael Brook <rossbrook2@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 11:46:25 AM
Subject: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors?
Message #8989
Barry Thanks for your thoughts and I'll try your suggestions.. The exact message, which I slightly misreported, is.... "Direct TDM System Overload The audio engine was not able to process all required data in time (-10011)" Anyone heard of this one? Message: 6 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:18:09 -0600 From: Barry Young/Young Creative <ycmail@...> Subject: Re: Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors? I haven't been able to find that error code -10011 in either Digidesign's or Apple's documentation. Are you sure it says "TDM error"? Also it could very possibly be any application you are running. Do you have Waves? What native plug engines are running? What is your digital clock source? I would go through and strip Logic down to basics, then add the programs one at a time to find out what's generating the error. This "one at a time" method is a good general way to isolate the problem. It's a "whodunnit" approach. Also how much of the 1 gig of RAM is assigned to Logic? There are recent posts on that subject. -- Barry Young > From: Michael Brook <rossbrook2@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 04:46:48 -0800 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [L-TDM] Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors? > > I've been wrestling with the same problem. > > TDM error -10011 specifically. > > It can happen running one midi track with no audio! A significant factor > seems to be how long ths song has been playing. Anything longer than about > a minute increases the odds of the error. > > Things that seem to reduce this and pci 6042 errors are > > -lowering the resolution of the second monitor > > -making a smaller mixer, smaller vst instrument count song, I had made a > large track count, many aux buss etc autoload so that my template would be > able to cope with mixing etc. This of course does not bode well for trying > to do large projects with Logic/tdm/ESB. > > -using dae 5.1.1cs from the digi site which is designed to reduce -6042 > errors > > - turning dual processing off, which is a major pissoff > > -only using one monitor, which is another major pissoff > > has anyone any insights into the tdm -10011 error? > > > I'm running a > > Dual 800, now obsolete, of course > Mix cubed, " " " " > 9.2.1 > Logic 4.81 > DAE 5.1.1cs > 1 gig ram > cinema display with second 17" monitor running at 256 colors so that it > looks like a cheap comic book > > Michael Brook > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________
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From: "mpmusicny" <mpmusicny@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 11:54:00 AM
Subject: Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors?
Message #8990
This is a reply to #8989.
--- In logic-tdm@y..., Michael Brook <rossbrook2@e...> wrote: > Barry > > Thanks for your thoughts and I'll try your suggestions.. > > The exact message, which I slightly misreported, is.... > > "Direct TDM > System Overload > > The audio engine was not able to process all required data in time (-10011)" > > Anyone heard of this one? > > Michael, I think that just means you've reached the limit of what the native side can handle. confirm by looking at the performance meter. this would probablt happen in any native setup, not just ESB. regards Malcolm
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From: "stickhouse91367" <brian@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 11:58:43 AM
Subject: Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors?
Message #8991
This is a reply to #8989.
Yep... that's the one. Sheesh, Michael, looking at your system, makes me think it's not processor related. (I'm on a B&W G3 350... so I thought it could be my processor not keeping up.) And I never saw it until I installed ESB and started using Direct TDM (obviously... the error says it's Direct TDM). As I understand it (which could be wrong), the ESB plug is running on the Digi hardware (not the processor)... but where does Direct TDM run? Inside Logic? Hmmm.... -Brian --- In logic-tdm@y..., Michael Brook <rossbrook2@e...> wrote: > Barry > > Thanks for your thoughts and I'll try your suggestions.. > > The exact message, which I slightly misreported, is.... > > "Direct TDM > System Overload > > The audio engine was not able to process all required data in time (-10011)" > > Anyone heard of this one? > > > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:18:09 -0600 > From: Barry Young/Young Creative <ycmail@s...> > Subject: Re: Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors? > > I haven't been able to find that error code -10011 in either Digidesign's or > Apple's documentation. Are you sure it says "TDM error"? Also it could > very possibly be any application you are running. Do you have Waves? What > native plug engines are running? What is your digital clock source? I would > go through and strip Logic down to basics, then add the programs one at a > time to find out what's generating the error. This "one at a time" method > is a good general way to isolate the problem. It's a "whodunnit" approach. > Also how much of the 1 gig of RAM is assigned to Logic? There are recent > posts on that subject. > -- > > Barry Young > > > > From: Michael Brook <rossbrook2@e...> > > Reply-To: logic-tdm@y... > > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 04:46:48 -0800 > > To: logic-tdm@y... > > Subject: [L-TDM] Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors? > > > > I've been wrestling with the same problem. > > > > TDM error -10011 specifically. > > > > It can happen running one midi track with no audio! A significant factor > > seems to be how long ths song has been playing. Anything longer than about > > a minute increases the odds of the error. > > > > Things that seem to reduce this and pci 6042 errors are > > > > -lowering the resolution of the second monitor > > > > -making a smaller mixer, smaller vst instrument count song, I had made a > > large track count, many aux buss etc autoload so that my template would be > > able to cope with mixing etc. This of course does not bode well for trying > > to do large projects with Logic/tdm/ESB. > > > > -using dae 5.1.1cs from the digi site which is designed to reduce -6042 > > errors > > > > - turning dual processing off, which is a major pissoff > > > > -only using one monitor, which is another major pissoff > > > > has anyone any insights into the tdm -10011 error? > > > > > > I'm running a > > > > Dual 800, now obsolete, of course > > Mix cubed, " " " " > > 9.2.1 > > Logic 4.81 > > DAE 5.1.1cs > > 1 gig ram > > cinema display with second 17" monitor running at 256 colors so that it > > looks like a cheap comic book > > > > Michael Brook > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > __________________
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From: "stickhouse91367" <brian@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 12:00:21 PM
Subject: Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors?
Message #8992
This is a reply to #8990.
Malcom, I did check that... and the CPU load was high, but it didn't reach the top when it choked and died. -brian --- In logic-tdm@y..., "mpmusicny" <mpmusicny@y...> wrote: > --- In logic-tdm@y..., Michael Brook <rossbrook2@e...> wrote: > > Barry > > > > Thanks for your thoughts and I'll try your suggestions.. > > > > The exact message, which I slightly misreported, is.... > > > > "Direct TDM > > System Overload > > > > The audio engine was not able to process all required data in > time (-10011)" > > > > Anyone heard of this one? > > > > > Michael, > > I think that just means you've reached the limit of what the native > side can handle. confirm by looking at the performance meter. > this would probablt happen in any native setup, not just ESB. > > regards > > Malcolm
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From: Barry Young/Young Creative <ycmail@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 12:11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors?
Message #8993
This is a reply to #8992.
Michael on my G3 450 I can get CPU overloads very easily using Soft Samplecell. If I hold out too many voices it'll happen. Most of the time it keeps playing then gives me the error after I've stopped, but occasionally it'll cut out. Check your DTDM audio prefs and see if you can get things to run any better, but I think you're just hitting the ceiling. -- Barry Young > From: stickhouse91367 <brian@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:00:21 +0000 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [L-TDM] Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors? > > Malcom, > I did check that... and the CPU load was high, but it didn't reach > the top when it choked and died. > > -brian > > --- In logic-tdm@y..., "mpmusicny" <mpmusicny@y...> wrote: >> --- In logic-tdm@y..., Michael Brook <rossbrook2@e...> wrote: >>> Barry >>> >>> Thanks for your thoughts and I'll try your suggestions.. >>> >>> The exact message, which I slightly misreported, is.... >>> >>> "Direct TDM >>> System Overload >>> >>> The audio engine was not able to process all required data > in >> time (-10011)" >>> >>> Anyone heard of this one? >>> >>> >> Michael, >> >> I think that just means you've reached the limit of what the > native >> side can handle. confirm by looking at the performance meter. >> this would probablt happen in any native setup, not just ESB. >> >> regards >> >> Malcolm > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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From: "mpmusicny" <mpmusicny@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 12:30:43 PM
Subject: [L-TDM] Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors?
Message #8994
This is a reply to #8993.
>but I think you're just hitting the ceiling. > -- > > Barry Young > That's basically all that's happening here. One tip - if you're using the native renaissance reverb, it's a total hog. try another verb if you have one. Malcolm
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From: Jeff Rona <jrona@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 1:13:14 PM
Subject: SPP from Logic
Message #8995
Hi. Is anyone using Logic with some external drum machine/sequencer? I am trying to drive Reason on a second Mac from Logic (4.7.3). But something has gone wrong (it used to work). Logic is sending MIDI Clock fine, but not the Song Position Pointer (SPP). If I enable a track on the port that the second Mac is on, the SPP will work a few times then stop. If I uncheck then recheck the 'Prg' button, SPP will resume, but briefly. Why why why??? I hope someone knows about this odd problem. I've run Reason on the same Mac as Logic, and it works great. The problem with Rewire is that audio stops when the sequencer is not in Play. Thus auditioning sounds is difficult. Oh yes, it crashes a bit too often as well. jr
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From: "Hirst, Alistair" <ahirst@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 1:31:44 PM
Subject: RE: [L-TDM] Re: LAP/ESB/TDM choking-tdm -10011 errors?
Message #8996
> From: stickhouse91367 [SMTP:brian@...] > > Malcom, > I did check that... and the CPU load was high, but it didn't reach > the top when it choked and died. > It won't necessarily hit the top before it chokes because the error might occur before the screen is updated. /-
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From: "Pete Thomas" <pt@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 2:26:57 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] powercore and protools
Message #8997
This is a reply to #8988.
I thought I'd already mentioned, I have successfully run TC Powercore on DTDM with Logic TDM. It does work no probs With some reservations (eg why would anyone want to do this?) If you are running logic and TDM you could just get TC works TDM which has the extra Master X 5 and Intonator. best regards Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Duemmler <merlin@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] powercore and protools > Great news! > > Thanx, Marc! > > Peter > --- > http://www.merlinsound.de > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Schlaile" <ms_lists@...> > To: "Logic TDM List" <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:43 PM > Subject: [L-TDM] powercore and protools > > > > hi there, > > > > peter asked the other day if the powercore and protools can run at the > same > > time. i've just got a reply from TC: yes they can (they haven't tried > PT|HD > > yet). > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >
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From: Lvee <lvee@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 2:53:10 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Dual monitor recommendations
Message #8998
This is a reply to #8979.
Promax DHMAX dual agp card dude, nothing else to solve yer problem Cheers Lolo le 31/01/02 16:20, Jonathan Bepler à jbep@... a écrit : > Hi all, > > Any recommendations for a dual monitor setup with G4 533? > > Which large, inexpensive monitors are good at the moment? > What's the current choice for dual monitor card? > > I need a card(s) that can run together with: > pt mix plus > miro dc30+ > > Currently I run an old trinitron 20" off of an old ATI card (In addition to > apple studio mon 17" on agp), and get 'PCI bus too busy' when doing anything > slightly demanding graphically in logic. > > Would like to replace both monitors with larger, clearer ones, if it's > affordable. > > thanks, > > Jonathan > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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From: "antpatan" <antpatan@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 3:05:10 PM
Subject: How can I Use STEREO INTERLEAVED FILES With LOGIC TDM?
Message #8999
HI ! Until few months ago, I used LOGIC with MOTU Interfaces, and I have a lot of Session with many Songs using STEREO FILES INTERLEAVED.. Now I'm using LOGIC TDM with protools hardware, but when I open a old song I can't ear none Stereo Files. Usually I go into Audio Window, delete stereo files and Import Again answering "SPLIT" and then it's all right. But at the moment I have an old song (motu interface) using a STEREO INTERLEAVED FILES with many reagions, and I can't delete from Audio window this file, because I'd lost my cuts and reasons.. HOW CAN I IMPORT DIRECTLY THIS KIND OF FILES. Sorry for my BAD English. THANKS ANTONIO
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From: Barry Young/Young Creative <ycmail@...>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 3:16:34 PM
Subject: Re: [L-TDM] How can I Use STEREO INTERLEAVED FILES With LOGIC TDM?
Message #9000
This is a reply to #8999.
My advice would be to open the native session and bounce your tracks with the edits as split files, then import the them into the TDM session. -- Barry Young > From: antpatan <antpatan@...> > Reply-To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:05:10 +0000 > To: logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [L-TDM] How can I Use STEREO INTERLEAVED FILES With LOGIC TDM? > > HI ! > Until few months ago, I used LOGIC with MOTU Interfaces, and > I have a lot of Session with many Songs using STEREO FILES > INTERLEAVED.. > Now I'm using LOGIC TDM with protools hardware, but when I open a old > song I can't ear none Stereo Files. > Usually I go into Audio Window, delete stereo files and Import Again > answering "SPLIT" and then it's all right. But at the moment I have > an old song (motu interface) using a STEREO INTERLEAVED FILES with > many reagions, and I can't delete from Audio window this file, > because I'd lost my cuts and reasons.. > HOW CAN I IMPORT DIRECTLY THIS KIND OF FILES. > Sorry for my BAD English. > > > THANKS > > > ANTONIO > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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