I have been wondering what happened to roman .... and I laugh profusely... he must have a day job but .... is there a mixdown/bounce/master/console/I/O plugin for powermix? >From: "roman pirie" <romanp@...> > >> But TC Powercore is getting supported by dad, antares etc. And more >jumping >> on. > >Not by my dad it isn't! > >Not sure I can see the point of powercore. Plug-in power isn't the problem >with native system It's recording and automation latency. I can't see the TC >board dealing with that - though maybe special VST-like instruments could >utilise it? Expensive too. If I had a native system, I'd just get a faster >computer. > >Or am I missing the point? > >PS My spell check suggested 'pirie' should be 'pixie'. > >Regards > >Stephen Bennett. Composer and sound design. (UK) >http://chaosstudios.gen-next.com > >henry fool http://www.collective.co.uk/henryfool The Fire Thieves: >http://tft.gen-next.com > >Author of 'The Fast Guide To Logic' http://www.pc-pubs.demon.co.uk/fgel.htm >and 'Making Music with E-Magic Logic Audio >http://www.pc-pubs.demon.co.uk/mmela.htm' > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ___ Brad ____________________________________________________________

> PS My spell check suggested 'pirie' should be 'pixie'. Aren't pixies the small creatures Gilderoy Lockhart sets free in the classroom? /Martin

Hi guys, An occasional joke is nice, but I don't think this person appreciates this very much. Bye, Joeri Martin Saleteg wrote: > > PS My spell check suggested 'pirie' should be 'pixie'. > > Aren't pixies the small creatures Gilderoy Lockhart sets free in the > classroom? > > /Martin > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

Manfred Lange has contributed three new environments to the LUG Environment collection: An editor for the Waldorf Micro Q: "http://www.swiftkick.com/lugenv/synth/micro_q.zip"; An update of his Doepfer Drehbank Controller editor: "http://www.swiftkick.com/lugenv/other/drehbank.zip"; An editor for the Yamaha G50 Guitar to MIDI converter: "http://www.swiftkick.com/lugenv/other/g50/.zip"; Thanks, Len

I have a D24 card and a couple of mix farms with one 888 interface. Im put off by the price of buying an additional 888 and am wondering at purchaseing a MOTU 12/96 to get additional inputs. 1. Will logic let me record simultaneously through the 888 and the MOTU hardware? 2. Once the MOTU tracks are recorded can I assign them to outputs on the 888 and process them with TDM plugins? 3. Can audio input to the MOTU interface be passed through to the 888 for output? 4. has anyone tried the presonus 8channel mic pre with a digi ADAT interface? Thank you, Lon

hello again...thank you to those of you who replied to my last post about the m-audio card...i was wondering if i could get some opinions on a Hoontech card...the SoundTrack Audio DSP24 Value...it looks like another great card for the money, but i have never heard of Hoontech before, and would like some opinions on this card...the latency that hoontech has posted is 3ms at 96kHz and about 6-7ms at 44.1kHz...does anyone know how reputable Hootech is and what about their cards and drivers...does anyone have any experience with the sound quality?.. thankyou for your help and advice with this...jay..

>I have a D24 card and a couple of mix farms with one 888 interface. Im put >off by the price of buying an additional 888 and am wondering at purchaseing >a MOTU 12/96 to get additional inputs. > > 1. Will logic let me record simultaneously through the 888 and the MOTU >hardware? yes, unless you find the combination of both systems gives you -6042 errors. Some people seem to be able to get dual-card systems involving PT to work, others don't, due to PCI bus overloads occurring > 2. Once the MOTU tracks are recorded can I assign them to outputs on the >888 and process them with TDM plugins? yes > 3. Can audio input to the MOTU interface be passed through to the 888 for >output? yes, but not directly - you'll have to submix your MOTU tracks, send them to an output (e.g. SPDIF stereo) and run that into the 888, coming up on an aux in the TDM mixer. Bear in mind also that stuff you monitor through the MOTU box will have higher latency than the Digi stuff. This is one of the main things you pay for in a PT system IMO. > 4. has anyone tried the presonus 8channel mic pre with a digi ADAT >interface? No but we're using an RME 8 ch AD/DA with a Digi ADAT interface, and it works great (although we are getting the odd misclocking static click, and I can't for the life of me work out why...) Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

Jon, Which RME converter? How is your clocking set up? Which device is the master clock? /Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Cotton" <jon.sunflower@...> > > No but we're using an RME 8 ch AD/DA with a Digi ADAT interface, and > it works great (although we are getting the odd misclocking static > click, and I can't for the life of me work out why...)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joeri Vankeirsbilck" <joeri@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: 25 April 2001 23:07 Subject: Re: [L-TDM] TC-Powercore gives DSP within Logic, nice. > Hi guys, > > An occasional joke is nice, but I don't think this person appreciates this > very much. > Joeri is right. Roman e-mailed me and asked me not to make fun of his name. It wasn't meant to be a jibe, but he took it as an insult for which I apologise. You can insult me all you like though! Regards Stephen Bennett. Composer and sound design. (UK) http://chaosstudios.gen-next.com henry fool http://www.collective.co.uk/henryfool The Fire Thieves: http://tft.gen-next.com Author of 'The Fast Guide To Logic' http://www.pc-pubs.demon.co.uk/fgel.htm and 'Making Music with E-Magic Logic Audio http://www.pc-pubs.demon.co.uk/mmela.htm'

From: "Joeri Vankeirsbilck" <joeri@...> >> An occasional joke is nice, but I don't think this person >> appreciates this very much. s.bennett@... writes: >Joeri is right. Roman e-mailed me and asked me not to make >fun of his name. It wasn't meant to be a jibe, but he took it as >an insult for which I apologise. >You can insult me all you like though! And I'll be insulted if you do NOT insult me periodically. Such is the curse of having a big sense of humour. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

Kook Musick has contributed his XV-5080 editor to the LUG Environment collection. If you have difficulty downloading it from the Yahoo site, try: "http://www.swiftkick.com/lugenv/synth/xv5080.zip"; Thanks, Len

From: Lee Azzarello <lee@...> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:00 PM To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Re:Osmosis on 4/22/01 1:27 PM, Malcolm Payne at mpmusic@... wrote: > I tried using the 1.3 demo to translate some Roland files to > Samplecell format. It got all the loops wrong - there were bad clicks > at all the loop points. 'Can't think of anything i might have been > doing wrong. I've noticed this problem myself. Especially on my Perfect Piano sample CD. Some notes, about 5 of them have terrible loop points and the click is horrible. I tried to tweak the loop by hand to make it cleaner but the amount of time it took was ridiculous. Does anyone know of an intelligent looping utility that would make this process easier? cheers, -------------------- -l[e^2] *new { ^this.shouldNotImplement(thisMethod) }

Ive been looking at expanding my PT system and, as I said in my last post, I think the Digi prices are obscene (I hear they make $3000 profit on an 888/24). It seems a tad tricky using the MOTU stuff at the same time because I gather there are PCI bus issues. However the new Alesis HD24 looks to be a good option. As I understand it the HD24 will pass 24 channels of 24/48 audio in real time through its ADAT light pipe. Does it then seem reasonable to expect one could record to this unit and pass its tracks through the digi ADAT I/O and assign them to logic channels? The trancks would be recorded onto the hd24 disk but processed by TDM and outputted through the 888/24 to the stereo mix. Seems tracks could be edited and processed in LAMP but stored on the HD24 disk. Any opinions as to feasability? The HD/24 is selling now for $2000 with a blue tube compressor. Compare that to $3200 for another 888/24.............Lonny

I have a Protool System that include a Mix Core Card and an 882 interface. I would like to add a 1622 interface. Will I need a 2nd mix core card? If not where do I plug the 1622? Thanks!

fex@... writes: >I have a Protool System that include a Mix Core Card and an 882 interface. >I would like to add a 1622 interface. >Will I need a 2nd mix core card? >If not where do I plug the 1622? Each MIX card can handle two 8channel interfaces, but the 1622 (like the ADAT Bridge) are 16channels each and therefore effectively like two 8channel interfaces. Even an extra old-style PCI DSP farm would work: You could plug your 882 in there (these cards can only handle one 8channel interface) and the 1622 into your existing MIX card. An extra D24 card would also work, and I think Digi also made a fairly cheap card that *only* allowed an extra interface (ie... no extra DSP Power). But... I'd recommend you get another MIX card anyway, because you'll need to extra DSP horsepower with all that extra mixing going on with the addition of the 1622. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

I'm thinking of switching from LAWP to LAMP, but can't really afford a full MIXplus system, so I wanted to try to kluge something together. What I'm wondering is this: (forgive me if I'm missing something, but...) if I were to use LAMP on a TDM system would the Logic plug-ins be processed via the TDM DSP or natively, such as my LAWP system now? This is somewhat of a deciding factor, as if I do this, even cheaply it's going to be $4-5,000 for d24, farm card (or two), new scsi card (I now have adaptec) and 888/24. Any light that could be shed on this issue for me would be greatly appreciated. Rick ps: I'm currently using a MOTU 2408mkII, which I'd like to be able to use for outboard processing, conversion via an ADAT Bridge as well.

Hi Rick, I'm not to sure about the Logic plugins working on the old DSP farm. I have a similar system and as far as I know they only work with a Mix system. Plus having one farm in Logic doesn't give you a lot of TDM processing power. I can only get one, maybe two tdm's working at a time. Don't know about two DSP farms though, but if you have a G4 dual processor, you can get a lot of VST plugs happening, even more so than on a Mix plus system. But if you do go for a d24 system, you can always upgrade your d24 card later to a Mix card. Frank on 4/27/01 2:05 PM, dartmusic@... at dartmusic@... wrote: > I'm thinking of switching from LAWP to LAMP, but can't really afford > a full MIXplus system, so I wanted to try to kluge something > together. What I'm wondering is this: (forgive me if I'm missing > something, but...) if I were to use LAMP on a TDM system would the > Logic plug-ins be processed via the TDM DSP or natively, such as my > LAWP system now? This is somewhat of a deciding factor, as if I do > this, even cheaply it's going to be $4-5,000 for d24, farm card (or > two), new scsi card (I now have adaptec) and 888/24. > > Any light that could be shed on this issue for me would be greatly > appreciated. > > Rick > > ps: I'm currently using a MOTU 2408mkII, which I'd like to be able > to use for outboard processing, conversion via an ADAT Bridge as well. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

I've recently updated my home system, and I am suddenly having tons of problems. This system has always been friendly and compatible on previous versions. I'm not exactly sure if this is relative or not, but most of these problems started after a freaky lock up. I had loaded an audio only set of extensions and accidentally started up Netscape without any web type extensions loaded and it gave me the bomb window. After that, things were bad. The mac gave me upon startup, the question mark disk icon. No matter what I did, it would not see the main startup drive. Nothing was working as far as utilities. It took drastic measures to get it back online. Things have not been the same since. As I said, this may not even be relative. I have reloaded Mac OS and Re updated logic to no avail. Here are the details if you think you might be able to help. Obviously, I'd be very grateful for any ideas at this point. I just recently updated: Mac OS 8.5.1 to 8.6 LAP 4.0 to 4.6.3 Those are the main changes. I am using: Mac 8600/200 PT III I/O 2 farm 888/882 The main prolem is upon the startup of logic. Typically it locks up/ asks me to save lock/ or freezes without any logic windows opened right at the point that the envrionment windows should be opening. So, it appears to get past DAE and TDM and OMS etc. just fine. This happens every time after a restart of the mac. The only fix I have come up with is to trash some preferences and restart. The key preferences are: Mac os prefs Sound Prefs Digi Setup The key pref seems to be the mac os pref. I seem to have the best luck when I trash sound prefs and mac os prefs and restart. I then am able to put in a few solid hours of serious audio/midi work usually ending in a lock up of some sort. Many times recently it has locked up while I was working in a matrix/event window with midi. (not rolling audio) In other words, probably not a dae issue right?? This all seems to point at the mac os or some funky preference. I have changed ton's of stuff by now, juggled extensions, replaced systems with backups etc. I'm a little lost! There were also some uncommon major bundle bit type things found and fixed with tech tool and others. (uncommon for me) All my tests seem to point at the mac os prefs and sound prefs. Logic or Mac os creates funky prefs after a restart????????? Sorry to ramble on. Thanks for any help!!! byacss@...

>and I think Digi also made a fairly >cheap card that *only* allowed an extra interface (ie... no extra >DSP Power). They still do, it's called a Mix i/o card and it's fairly cheap (about £600 in the UK). But if you're going to eat up a PCI slot and money is a factor I personally would go for a 'vintage' DSP farm - which will give you 8 extra channels as well as 3 free DSP chips. Move the 882 there and you can run the 1622 from the Mix Core. Be warned though, to do this you will probably have to buy a Y-splitter peripheral cable (which you need to connect 16 channels to one mix core/farm). These are only available from Digi and their dealers and are a complete rip-off. We paid £88+VAT... jon Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

> > > this, even cheaply it's going to be $4-5,000 for d24, farm card (or > > two), new scsi card (I now have adaptec) and 888/24. > > > > Any light that could be shed on this issue for me would be greatly >> appreciated. > > > > Rick > > >> ps: I'm currently using a MOTU 2408mkII, which I'd like to be able > > to use for outboard processing, conversion via an ADAT Bridge as well. > > Hi Rick, this would work fine - in fact you wouldn't need an 888/24. Personally I wouldn't buy one of those as they're very expensive and don't sound particularly good - save your money get an ADAT bridge (which gives you 16 ch of lightpipe i/o) and some outboard conversion - the RME stuff is very good. If you need lots of digital i/o pick up an old 888/16 for it's AES/EBU and use outboard conversion for the AD/DA jon Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

>I've recently updated my home system, and I am suddenly having >tons of problems. This system has always been friendly and compatible >on previous versions. I'm not exactly sure if this is relative or not, >but most of these problems started after a freaky lock up. I had loaded >an audio only set of extensions and accidentally started up Netscape >without any web type extensions loaded and it gave me the bomb window. >After that, things were bad. The mac gave me upon startup, the question >mark disk icon. No matter what I did, it would not see the main startup >drive. Nothing was working as far as utilities. It took drastic >measures to get it back online. Things have not been the same since. As >I said, this may not even be relative. I have reloaded Mac OS and Re >updated logic to no avail. Sorry to say this but your best recourse would be to reformat the disk - sounds like the driver's been corrupted or something similar. Back up, reformat and reinstall fresh. it will save you lots of hastle in the long run. j Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

> Sorry to say this but your best recourse would be to reformat the > disk - sounds like the driver's been corrupted or something similar. > Back up, reformat and reinstall fresh. it will save you lots of > hastle in the long run. > Reinstall fresh?? Meaning after I reformat, restore the last working system or clean intall? (new system folder???) Won't that be difficult to get the 3rd party stuff back if so?? btw thanks for the feedback!!

>Jon, > >Which RME converter? > >How is your clocking set up? Which device is the master clock? Hi Martin The interfacs is an RME AD-8Pro, and it is providing the master clock for the whole system This is the setup: PT Mix system, set to sync to optical in. ADAT bridge 24 (16 channels) connected to mix core) RME AD-8Pro, AD and DA sections set to internal sync, connected optically both ways to A group of ADAT bridge ADAT LX20 (acting as a 2nd set of A/Ds), set to 'optical sync' with optical lead running from RME aux.optical output to ADAT input for sync only. LX20 optical output connected to input B on ADAT bridge to carry audio from the ADATs A/Ds. I wanted to sync the PT rig to the RME's internal clock as it's very low jitter and I've a suspicion it sounds better than syncing to the ADAT bridge's own clock. The ADAT bridge's single AES/EBU connection on i/o 1 and 2 carries a send/return from a Lexicon Nuverb, so the hardware setup box is set to: input 1&2: digital digital format: AES/EBU sync mode: optical The clicks are not constant - sometimes they are 1 every 10 seconds, at other times it behaves perfectly. My only idea at the moment is that one of the optical leads has been slightly damaged. Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

> > Sorry to say this but your best recourse would be to reformat the >> disk - sounds like the driver's been corrupted or something similar. >> Back up, reformat and reinstall fresh. it will save you lots of > > hastle in the long run. > > >Reinstall fresh?? Meaning after I reformat, restore the last working system or clean intall? (new system folder???) > >Won't that be difficult to get the 3rd party stuff back if so?? > >btw thanks for the feedback!! Yes, *clean* installs of everything. Then you'll have to manually go through the old system folder (on whatever backup medium you have put it on, CDRs, 2nd hard disk or whatever) and copy anything which is still missing after the new installs across manually. I suggest you use the extensions manager to save a 'virgin state' first though - immediately after doing all the clean installs - just in case any of the 3rd party stuff has been corrupted and starts causing problems once you copy it across. If you have any PACE authorisations on your disk you'll have to deinstall those, and then reinstall them again on the freshly formatted drive. That's the worst part IMO... Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

>Ive been looking at expanding my PT system and, as I said in my last post, I >think the Digi prices are obscene (I hear they make $3000 profit on an >888/24). It seems a tad tricky using the MOTU stuff at the same time because >I gather there are PCI bus issues. However the new Alesis HD24 looks to be a >good option. As I understand it the HD24 will pass 24 channels of 24/48 audio >in real time through its ADAT light pipe. Does it then seem reasonable to >expect one could record to this unit and pass its tracks through the digi >ADAT I/O and assign them to logic channels? The trancks would be recorded >onto the hd24 disk but processed by TDM and outputted through the 888/24 to >the stereo mix. Seems tracks could be edited and processed in LAMP but stored >on the HD24 disk. Any opinions as to feasability? The HD/24 is selling now >for $2000 with a blue tube compressor. Compare that to $3200 for another >888/24.............Lonny Great idea. Should work fine. But why buy the HD24 when an your MOTU interface will probably work fine as an AD/DA for the ADAT bridge? That way the ADAT bridge is your only outlay... Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/