Why don´t you just create a new track with same instrument and make an object from beginning til end , there you can hyperedit what you want on the whole track ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Eriberto de'Munari <edemunari@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Were only 3 wishes - 3 dreams > But i'd really like also: > 1. hyper edit all along the track not only for object, PT like

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In a message dated 1/30/01 6:55:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, romanp@... writes: << Is it true that if I want to use a mixplus within logic as a digital mixer that I will have to use oms? Does this mean I lose good midi stability and timing with my unitor8usb. Are there any downsides to using tdm in logic. I don't want to find out after the purchase. Peace. >> Roman, OMS is Not required. Pete

At 12:21 pm +1300 31/1/01, roman pirie wrote: >Is it true that if I want to use a mixplus within logic as a digital mixer >that I will have to use oms? no. Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

> >Are there any downsides to using tdm in logic. I don't want to find out >after the purchase. >Peace. there are a few I can think of, none of which relate just to logic: No interleaved files - this is a minor hassle until you need to transfer a song from another system that does allow interleaved files - then it suddenly becomes a huge hassle. No mixing of 16 bit and 24 bit files in the same song. Plug-ins and routing takes longer than on a native system. The DSP Manager, which controls which plug-ins go to which chips, appears to have been coded by someone who was high at the time. Songs with large numbers of plug-ins can take a long, long time to load. however, it's still the best thing out there. HTH Malcolm -- ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music SF/NY

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There is a generic DAW-MAC list (of which most of the people there use ProTools) also at <www.egroups.com> (which is probably called <www.yahoogroups.com> now). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

Yep, but with audio track i have to make another audio file, isn't it? Ciao, from Italy, Eriberto At 00.50 31/01/01 +0100, you wrote: >Why don´t you just create a new track with same instrument and make an >object from beginning til end , there you can hyperedit what you want on >the whole track ? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Eriberto de'Munari <edemunari@...> >To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:36 AM >Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Were only 3 wishes - 3 dreams > > > > > But i'd really like also: > > 1. hyper edit all along the track not only for object, PT like

No, just create a (Midi) sequence on that audio track with the pencil. Peter http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eriberto de'Munari" <edemunari@...> To: <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [L-TDM] Were only 3 wishes - 3 dreams > Yep, but with audio track i have to make another audio file, isn't it? > > Ciao, from Italy, Eriberto > > At 00.50 31/01/01 +0100, you wrote: > >Why don´t you just create a new track with same instrument and make an > >object from beginning til end , there you can hyperedit what you want on > >the whole track ?

There is also a forum on Digi's site which I think is a much better format than a mailing list anyway. http://www.digidesign.com or directly at http://duc.digidesign.com And it's actually --groups.yahoo.com-- if you want to look there. --- In logic-tdm@y..., "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> wrote: > There is a generic DAW-MAC list (of which most of the people > there use ProTools) also at <www.egroups.com> (which is > probably called <www.yahoogroups.com> now). > > > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

Somebody wrote: >>Why don´t you just create a new track with same instrument >>and make an object from beginning til end , there you can hyperedit >>what you want on the whole track ? edemunari@... writes: >Yep, but with audio track i have to make another audio file, isn't it? No, you can put a MIDI sequence on an AudioTrack. Just use the pencil tool and click in the Arrange to create an empty MIDI sequence, and stretch it out to the full length. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" (Remove all instances of the letter "d" from my email address if replying with something stupid) email: <zerobeat@...> website: <home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

<< No, you can put a MIDI sequence on an AudioTrack. Just use the pencil tool and click in the Arrange to create an empty MIDI sequence, and stretch it out to the full length. >> One method I use is to make multiple tracks (in the arrange window) of the same audio object. The top track will have the actual audio then underneath I draw separate hyperdraw sequences for volume, pan, plug-in automation etc. I think this is one up on Protools which won't let you look at more than one automation layer at a time.

I've recently realized that I can automate the Virus via MIDI controllers from Logic(rather than switching to PT and using TDM automation). In PT, you can cmd-opt-cntrl-click on any parameter in the virus (any knob for instance) and a pop-up menu will be displayed showing which MIDI controller number to use to automate that parameter, but this doesn't work from Logic. Does anybody know how to get info on the MIDI controller numbers without having go into PT and cmd-opt-cntrl-click on every parameter in the virus and write them all down? Thanks, dv

I just discovered it's even worse.. Plug-ins on stereo aux objects loses their settings when adding interface.. Martin ---------- >From: "Martin Aune" <martaune@...> >To: Logic TDM <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [L-TDM] Adding 5th interface = shuffled busses too >Date: søn 28. jan 2001 00:02 > > Hello, > I just installed an ADAT Bridge24 after 888 and three 882's. As usual the > "good old" SampleCell bug was there when opening an old song (SC input > settings, plugs etc are shuffled over to the new inputs). But new this time > is that also BUS SENDS on MONO tracks/inputs are shuffled by 8 steps > backwards (up) in the popup list. > > Running 4.6.3 > MIX Farm > Y-cable > 888 + 882 > MIX Farm > Y-cable > 882 + 882 > DSP Farm > ADAT Bridge24 A (1-8) > > I'm soon replacing the DSP Farm with a third MIX Farm, so to connect the > second Bridge group (B 9-16) with an Y-cable, and I guess that the busses > will be shuffled by 16 then... > > My oh my.. > > Martin > > > >

I know i´m kind of chaotic in mixing sometimes , but anyway , who cares for 24 bit as long as the audiomaterial sounds good? Regards Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: Philipp Schweidler <schweidler@...> To: Logic TDM Usergroup <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:03 PM Subject: [L-TDM] digi 001 to 16bit ? > hello list > > i am about to mix songs in protools (mix+) that have been recorded with a > digi 001 and logic platinum as front-end. by mistake the client recorded all > the tracks in 16bit sessions. > the question: since the a/d-cenvertors of the digi 001 are 24bit, are these > audio-files correctly dithered down to 16 bit or just truncated ? > > thanx for your help, regards, philipp > > > > > >

>I've recently realized that I can automate the Virus via MIDI >controllers from Logic(rather than switching to PT and using TDM >automation). In PT, you can cmd-opt-cntrl-click on any parameter in >the virus (any knob for instance) and a pop-up menu will be displayed >showing which MIDI controller number to use to automate that >parameter, but this doesn't work from Logic. > >Does anybody know how to get info on the MIDI controller numbers >without having go into PT and cmd-opt-cntrl-click on every parameter >in the virus and write them all down? > >Thanks, >dv there's a midi implementation of the virus b (the hardware virus) on the Virus webpage (www.access-music.de) HTH Malcolm -- ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music SF/NY

>I just discovered it's even worse.. >Plug-ins on stereo aux objects loses their settings when adding >interface.. > >Martin >---------- >>From: "Martin Aune" <martaune@...> >>To: Logic TDM <logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com> >>Subject: [L-TDM] Adding 5th interface = shuffled busses too >>Date: søn 28. jan 2001 00:02 >> > >> Hello, >> I just installed an ADAT Bridge24 after 888 and three 882's. As usual the >> "good old" SampleCell bug was there when opening an old song (SC input >> settings, plugs etc are shuffled over to the new inputs). But new this time >> is that also BUS SENDS on MONO tracks/inputs are shuffled by 8 steps >> backwards (up) in the popup list. >> >> Running 4.6.3 >> MIX Farm > Y-cable > 888 + 882 >> MIX Farm > Y-cable > 882 + 882 >> DSP Farm > ADAT Bridge24 A (1-8) >> >> I'm soon replacing the DSP Farm with a third MIX Farm, so to connect the >> second Bridge group (B 9-16) with an Y-cable, and I guess that the busses >> will be shuffled by 16 then... >> >> My oh my.. >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> Martin, 18 months back when i installed my ADAT bridge, the unofficial word was that the bridge HAD to be the primary interface (i.e. attached to the core card). I've always stuck to this, and its been reasonably problem free HTH Malcolm -- ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music SF/NY

In a message dated 1/31/01 3:24:53 PM, mpmusic@... writes: << >Does anybody know how to get info on the MIDI controller numbers >without having go into PT and cmd-opt-cntrl-click on every parameter >in the virus and write them all down? >> Put any MIDI instrument track in record and turn a fader or knob in Virus (or any other TDM plugin) and you'll be recording Controller Information. Simply open the Event window to see which controller it is. A step further is cabling this instrument back into the plug--in track to play back the automation!

the virus b/kb/indigo manual includes the full midi implemenation. it can be downloaded as a part of the OS4 package (http://www.access-music.de). please note that there are a few parameters, which differ. the virusTDM doesn't have the full parameter subset of the latest OS for the hardware virus. kind regards/beste gruesse, marc schlaile -- _____________________________________________________________________ Marc Schlaile Access Music Electronics GmbH * The Virus - resistance is futile * _____________________________________________________________________ On 31/1/01 19:26 Uhr, Malcolm Payne at mpmusic@... wrote: > there's a midi implementation of the virus b (the > hardware virus) on the Virus webpage (www.access-music.de) > > HTH > > Malcolm

Hi all Just thought y'all should know, I had a revelation yesterday. I thought our 9600/200 with Newer G3/366 was going as fast as its 50MHz busses would allow...but with all the hard disks we've got attached (19 volumes) finder operations can be very slow. Then, inspired by the zippiness of my girlfriend's new 350MHz imac compared to our 'much posher if older' system I ran Diskwarrior on all the drives, and WOW! I thought this util was only for getting you out of trouble like Norton DD, but it seems it also 'optimises' directories on your hard disks - making all operations involving directory structure (which is, like everthing) faster - up to 40-50% according to the manual. Our main hard disk was particularly bad I think - it has about 30,000 files on it in all, and Diskwarrior must have had a whale of a time...Before running Diskwarrior pressing the 'desktop' button in any dialog box would result in a 3-4 second pause. Now it's pretty much instant. Also launching all apps is a lot faster, especially those involving lots of additional helper files like Internet Explorer and its bookmarks. So for not very much money at all Diskwarrior has sped up our entire mac system by I'd say at least 30%, better than upgrading to a G4 for most stuff <g>. So if you have lots of hard drives and/or hard drives with lots and lots of li'l files on 'em, this comes recommended. j Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

Malcolm wrote: >18 months back when i installed my ADAT bridge, the unofficial word >was that the bridge HAD to be the primary interface (i.e. attached to >the core card). I've always stuck to this, and its been reasonably >problem free I've got (2) 888|24's hooked to my Mix+ core with a Y cable, (1) ADAT Bridge (both sides) hooked to a Mix Farm with a Y cable, and a second ADAT Bridge hooked to two vintage farms. Everything seems to work fine. I'm using the ADAT Bridges for sampler inputs, so I don't know if there are any issues when using them with actual ADAT decks. I've never heard about the suggestion of having the ADAT Bridge hooked to the core card. Where did you hear this, Malcolm? BTW, Martin, you're not experiencing the long-standing bug of plug-ins losing their settings on re-loading, are you? If so, the trick is to open a plug-in and click "Bypass" on and off. Doing this on one plug-in fixes them all. I notice this mostly with TC|Tools MegaVerb. Lee Blaske

TC Master-X I find that this TDM plugin is often impossible to use because the auto-gain-makup feature means you end up with clipping in the chain with the desired amount of compression, no matter what you do to the input levels? Anyone else come across this? Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

Jon Cotton wrote: >Just thought y'all should know, I had a revelation yesterday. I >thought our 9600/200 with Newer G3/366 was going as fast as its 50MHz >busses would allow...but with all the hard disks we've got attached >(19 volumes) finder operations can be very slow. > >Then, inspired by the zippiness of my girlfriend's new 350MHz imac >compared to our 'much posher if older' system I ran Diskwarrior on >all the drives, and WOW! I thought this util was only for getting >you out of trouble like Norton DD, but it seems it also 'optimises' >directories on your hard disks - making all operations involving >directory structure (which is, like everthing) faster - up to 40-50% >according to the manual. > >Our main hard disk was particularly bad I think - it has about 30,000 >files on it in all, and Diskwarrior must have had a whale of a >time...Before running Diskwarrior pressing the 'desktop' button in >any dialog box would result in a 3-4 second pause. Now it's pretty >much instant. > >Also launching all apps is a lot faster, especially those involving >lots of additional helper files like Internet Explorer and its >bookmarks. > >So for not very much money at all Diskwarrior has sped up our entire >mac system by I'd say at least 30%, better than upgrading to a G4 for >most stuff <g>. So if you have lots of hard drives and/or hard >drives with lots and lots of li'l files on 'em, this comes >recommended. Jon, Have you been in the habit of occasionally rebuilding the desktop by holding down the Apple and Option key on boot-up? I'm just curious as to whether the Diskwarrior optimization is any different from this (or say, from the way Norton utilities works). Lee Blaske

> >Jon, > >Have you been in the habit of occasionally rebuilding the desktop by >holding down the Apple and Option key on boot-up? yes, I do it all the time, last time was about two weeks ago. Never has it had this sort of effect. It *seems* Diskwarrior is more intelligent than Apple's routine, or Norton's etc. To quote the Diskwarrior manual..."Other utilities don't optimize your directory the way DiskWarrior does" Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/

Also, just found this on the Alsoft website >True directory optimization is an exclusive feature of DiskWarrior. >No other utility has the ability to defragment your directory Jon Cotton Guaranteed High Quality Gramophone the album. now available. http://www.darkgramophone.co.uk http://www.artisan-audio.co.uk/