Posted by: "Gareth Jones" yahoolist@garethjones.com gj1954 Sat May 3, 2008 12:27 pm (PDT) --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth Jones" <yahoolist@...> wrote: > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, Nick Batzdorf <recording@> wrote: > > > > Posted by: "James Richmond" richmondjames@ octatonic666 > > > > > Nope, it is all pretty straight forward- there is a USB midi driver > > > [for the AMT8] > > > but aside from that it is easy. > > > > > > Does that driver work on Intel Macs, just out of interest? I hadn't > > thought about that, and I'm contemplating the plunge... > > Yes > But I should add I DO have som issues with my USB Unitor 8 > sometimes, (occasionally) and > I was wondering about checking a more modern Interface to see if it > is more reliable. > > The single midi interface in my Fireface800 is rock solid. Keep the Unitor (or in my case AMT8) turned on all the time and you won't have any problems. It doesn't use any power worth talking about. Alternatively, find a bus-powered interface. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) +1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434 ------------------------------------

FYI I just finally got through reorganising my whole EXS library using the excellent EXS Manager Pro and to my surprise when I finally did my final scan of my own libraries and EXS Factory library together I was surprised to find clone samples. One lot was in my Vienna Symphonic folder and the other was in my Garageband Samples folder. In other words Apple must have licensed some VSL library when building their GB library. Go figure... PN ------------------------------------

Nick wrote: > Keep the Unitor (or in my case AMT8) turned on all the time and you > won't have any problems. Nick, are you saying AudioMIDIsetup gets confused on not seeing the interface on bootup then creates another copy when the Unitor is powered up? Regarding purchasing a new interface, I've never seen this issue on my McIntel with Logic 8 installed on a fresh system, so I think clean-installing both the OS and Logic is better than replacing a perfectly working interface... Just MHO... Best, Andy ------------------------------------

Posted by: "Andy Hardwake" andyhardwake@mac.com digitalmechanics Mon May 5, 2008 12:59 am (PDT) Nick wrote: > Keep the Unitor (or in my case AMT8) turned on all the time and you > won't have any problems. > Nick, are you saying AudioMIDIsetup gets confused on not seeing the > interface on bootup then creates another copy when the Unitor is > powered up? Nope. I'm saying that maybe five years ago I used to have to phooph around to get the MIDI interface to be seen when I flipped the switch to turn on my studio. In all honesty I forget the specifics, but it was never just "turn on the switch and play" like it is now - I had to power-cycle the interface sometimes, or maybe unplug and plug its USB cable - again, I forget. Now I just leave it turned on all the time and I haven't even looked at it for ages. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) +1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434 ------------------------------------

On May 5, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > Nope. I'm saying that maybe five years ago I used to have to phooph > around to get the MIDI interface to be seen when I flipped the switch > to turn on my studio. In all honesty I forget the specifics, but it > was never just "turn on the switch and play" like it is now - I had > to power-cycle the interface sometimes, or maybe unplug and plug its > USB cable - again, I forget. OMG! Have you ever updated the firmware? Been using mine for 7 or 8 years and never seen it here... Or in the worst case pressing the panic button made it work... Now I recall having an issue when switching to USB, but I solved it right away by getting a top-quality USB cable shielded on both ends... Am I just lucky or what :-) ? Best, Andy ------------------------------------

So aside from the unitor and amt which from all the comments have an acceptable level of midi voodoo are there any other worthy alternatives? I am suspicious of the viability of the driver on intel machines and think a USB 2.0 designed device might be wiser to go for. On May 5, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@mac.com> wrote: On May 5, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > Nope. I'm saying that maybe five years ago I used to have to phooph > around to get the MIDI interface to be seen when I flipped the switch > to turn on my studio. In all honesty I forget the specifics, but it > was never just "turn on the switch and play" like it is now - I had > to power-cycle the interface sometimes, or maybe unplug and plug its > USB cable - again, I forget. OMG! Have you ever updated the firmware? Been using mine for 7 or 8 years and never seen it here... Or in the worst case pressing the panic button made it work... Now I recall having an issue when switching to USB, but I solved it right away by getting a top-quality USB cable shielded on both ends... Am I just lucky or what :-) ? Best, Andy ------------------------------------

On May 5, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > Nope. I'm saying that maybe five years ago I used to have to phooph > around to get the MIDI interface to be seen when I flipped the switch > to turn on my studio. In all honesty I forget the specifics, but it > was never just "turn on the switch and play" like it is now - I had > to power-cycle the interface sometimes, or maybe unplug and plug its > USB cable - again, I forget. Posted by: "Andy Hardwake" andyhardwake@mac.com digitalmechanics Mon May 5, 2008 10:28 am (PDT) > OMG! Have you ever updated the firmware? Probably, but I have no interest in doing anything to it now. Another reason to keep it turned on is that sometimes I launch MIDI programs without my studio turned on, and I don't want to deal with dialogs about not being able to find the MIDI interface. Again, it doesn't use any power worth talking about, so I just have it sitting in a rack way back under my desk along with other stuff I don't ever need to look at. > Been using mine for 7 or 8 > years and never seen it here... Or in the worst case pressing the > panic button made it work... Now I recall having an issue when > switching to USB, but I solved it right away by getting a top-quality > USB cable shielded on both ends... Am I just lucky or what :-) ? The transition to USB MIDI in general was a huge PITA. Serial MIDI worked perfectly (except for that horrible DIN connector), and then all of a sudden everything was a mess for a couple of years. Not all the interfaces worked right away. It took MOTU a ROM chip upgrade, and there were other problems. This is all a good ten years ago, though - water under the bridge. Now they all seem to work fine. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) +1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434 ------------------------------------

Posted by: "Matthew McKenna" skylabfilmpop@sbcglobal.net skylabfilmpop Mon May 5, 2008 8:05 pm (PDT) > So aside from the unitor and amt which from all the comments have > an acceptable level of midi voodoo are there any other worthy > alternatives? I am suspicious of the viability of the driver on > intel machines and think a USB 2.0 designed device might be wiser > to go for. Oh, the AMT and Unitor are both very good boxes, and even USB 1 for MIDI is shooting mosquitoes with an anti-aircraft gun. You don't need the extra bandwidth. About ten years ago I had all the multiport interfaces in for an article when I was the editor of Recording magazine, and the reason the AMT is the one that's here is that it's one of the models that worked - if not THE model that worked. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) +1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434 ------------------------------------

Posted by: "Andy Hardwake" andyhardwake@mac.com digitalmechanics Mon May 5, 2008 10:28 am (PDT) > OMG! Have you ever updated the firmware? Andy, how would one do this? I have Unitor 8 serial & and a recently purchased Unitor 8 USB which seemed like the best solution for more ports as I added some control surfaces. The USB one connected to the computer and the serial one off of that. I seem to have persistent not found type issues so I've followed this thread with interest. I tried all suggestions - reinstall U8 driver from Logic 8 DVD, and also trashed AudioMidi preferences but no change. Kind regards ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com ------------------------------------

Hi Paul, On May 7, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Paul Najar wrote: > > Andy, how would one do this? There was a sysex file available with every version of Logic (until version 5 AFAIR), which you dump to the unit with SoundDiver or Unitor Control. Let me know if you need it (I still have all of my old installer disks somewhere). Mind you, in your situation I'd try replacing the cable first and only then mess with the firmware. Best, Andy ------------------------------------

Thanks Andy. I've put on a new cable today. Quite a kick ass one which came with my Epson USB 2 Scanner. Fingers crossed... On 08/05/2008, at 1:30 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On May 7, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Paul Najar wrote: >> >> Andy, how would one do this? > > There was a sysex file available with every version of Logic (until > version 5 AFAIR), which you dump to the unit with SoundDiver or Unitor > Control. Let me know if you need it (I still have all of my old > installer disks somewhere). Mind you, in your situation I'd try > replacing the cable first and only then mess with the firmware. > > Best, > > Andy > > > ------------------------------------ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/searchYahoo > ! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------

On the cable note what length cable is the max to use with a USB midi interface? -- ------------------------------------

On 8 May 2008, at 22:57, skylabfilmpop wrote: > On the cable note what length cable is the max to use with a USB midi > interface? It depends. I had problems using anything over 5 metres unless you put a powered hub or something in the chain. I did have a studio with a machine room for a long while though- with a good powered KVM I was able to get the cable run as long as 20 metres. There is probably some standard info- maybe check with MOTU and see what they reckon. Jim ------------------------------------

Hello, I finally ordered the Logic Studio upgrade. Can I install the upgrade and keep my Logic 7 intact? What do I need to do to make sure Logic 7 continues to work? Do I need to use Logic 7 for any old songs that need driver switching (like copying coreaudio setup to DTDM). I use the audio configuration window for this now, do I understand correctly that this window is missing in 8? Thanks for any help. -Judson G5 dual 2.7 PT HD2 motu 2408mkIII ------------------------------------

On May 8, 2008, at 9:03 PM, Judson wrote: > > I finally ordered the Logic Studio upgrade. Can I install the > upgrade and keep my Logic 7 intact? <http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Logic_Studio_Installing_Your_Software_U pgrade.pdf > Best, Andy ------------------------------------

On May 8, 2008, at 3:38 PM, James Richmond wrote: > > It depends. > > I had problems using anything over 5 metres unless you put a powered > hub or something in the chain. Mine is 20' with no power hubs. It's shielded on both ends, maybe this is why it works much better than shorter ones... Just guessing... Best, Andy ------------------------------------

Hi Judson, I have done so and Logic 7 works fine- I still use 7 on 80% of my work anyway. Jim On 9 May 2008, at 05:03, Judson wrote: > Hello, > > I finally ordered the Logic Studio upgrade. Can I install the > upgrade and keep my Logic 7 intact? What do I need to do to make > sure Logic 7 continues to work? Do I need to use Logic 7 for any > old songs that need driver switching (like copying coreaudio setup to > DTDM). I use the audio configuration window for this now, do I > understand correctly that this window is missing in 8? Thanks for > any help. > > -Judson > > G5 dual 2.7 > PT HD2 > motu 2408mkIII ------------------------------------

Hey All Am I the only one having crashes when auditioning rex files through the import audio file window? About every 4th file I listen to produces a "tdm" logo on the cursor and then the beachball of death. This is with PT 6.4, Logic 7.1, MAC OS 10.3.4. Thanks!

Setup: OS 10.4.8 Logic 7.2.3 2 x 2.66 GHZ Dual-Core Intel Xeon 3Gig 667 Mhz DDR2 FB-Dimm TDM Old 888 i/o Few Farm Cards Will this setup work with Logic 8? Thanks guys!!!!

Hi No this won¹t work at all. First of all, for a legacy protools system you ac use no later than Mac OS 10.3.4 and Quicktime 6.5. Also Logic 7.1 is the last version of logic to work with Legacy TDM systems. -- ------------------------------------

Hi! I have updated my G4 with Tiger and I need to resintall Logic 6. However, I can't find the original Logic Cd so I only have the Logic key and the key number and I REALLY need to use Logic again! Can anybody tell me what's the best way to get Logic 6 running again under these circumstances? Thanks for your tips, Andrés

the authorizations (purchases) are written onto the USB key, so they should still be there. However there was a faulty series of USB keys and there was a temporary exchange program (for free) with Apple. That time ran out a long long time ago... I suggest you browse the apple support pages, you may find a hint, either a good idea or an e-mail address at Apple that would actually reply. Don't shun these pages, they are excellent resources http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID6 When you start Logic 6 what does it say? Does it find the key? If ever you want to upgrade you may want to know that Logic 8 doesn't run on G4 machines slower than 1 GHz. However I recently found out to my surprise that Logic 8.01 does run on my old 887 MHz G4 laptop whereas 8.00 didn't. Good luck Jurgen ------------------------------------

Hi Has anyone else noticed this change of behavior since 8.0.1? Values can't be entered in TDM plug-ins by clicking/double clicking and typing. It still works with Waves and the new Soundtoys bundle (Echoboy etc), but not with Digidesign, Echo Farm, Eventide, Soundblender etc. Everything works in 8.0.1. I'm still on PT 7.1x. Maybe it's different for PT 7.4 users? Though I'm still using Logic 7.2.3, I try to follow how it goes with Logic 8. M G5 dual 2,5 OS 10.4.8 PT 7.1cs9 HDAccel2 Core Audio>RME9632>ADAT Logic 7.2.3 / 8.0.2 ------------------------------------

Yep I noticed that. Also still no channel solo on aux channels or things bussed to them. I'm on PT 7.3.1cs4 .... anyone on 7.4 got any news on this ? --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, martin <mbox@...> wrote: > > Hi > Has anyone else noticed this change of behavior since 8.0.1? > Values can't be entered in TDM plug-ins by clicking/double clicking and > typing. It still works with Waves and the new Soundtoys bundle (Echoboy > etc), but not with Digidesign, Echo Farm, Eventide, Soundblender etc. > Everything works in 8.0.1. > > I'm still on PT 7.1x. Maybe it's different for PT 7.4 users? > > Though I'm still using Logic 7.2.3, I try to follow how it goes with Logic > 8. > > M > > G5 dual 2,5 > OS 10.4.8 > PT 7.1cs9 > HDAccel2 > Core Audio>RME9632>ADAT > Logic 7.2.3 / 8.0.2 > ------------------------------------

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