I concur. I bailed on DTDM years ago and got a dedicate Core Audio interface to feed into Pro Tools. I have no regrets whatsoever. These days PT and Logic are on completely separate machines, and I've been using Logic or Cubase for mixing more and more. bd On Dec 31, 2007, at 4:33 AM, Martin Erskine wrote: > I gave up on DTDM a couple of years ago by sending a number of Core > Audio channels > into my digital mixer and returning them through channels of Pro > Tools. Then I turned off > DTDM in Logic. ALL my DAE/DTDM issues dissapeared PERMANENTLY at > that time. (And I > gained more Psuedo-DAE/DTDM I/O's). Lately, I have found myself > preferring to use only > Core Audio. I'm finding it actually sounds as good as DAE, if not > smoother & better. And > I'm LOVING having everything work! > > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Evan Benjamin" <forums@...> wrote: >> >> Message posted by Evan Benjamin <evanbenjamin@...>: >> >> I am having similiar issues. I was told by Apple to upgrade PT to >> 7.4, >> and that did not fix anything. I will downgrade to 10.4.9 and see >> if that helps. >> A terrible pain though, especially because Apple should know this >> stuff when I call. >> >> -Evan Benjamin >> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Hi Bob (and forum) Would love your (and anyone's) input on what core audio device seems to work well (sound quality, cost effective, I/O options) and what your hookups are. I have PT HD2 with a 192 and an 888/24 hooked up to the legacy Port (although that will likely change as I drop live drums in favor of BFD! - I'm buying a condo) How do people usually feed the core audio back into Logic/TDM? This decision would end my need for the DTDM compatibility that seems so hard to come by ( I have it but I'm stuck at 10.3.9, Logic &, and PT 6.9) and would pave the way for me to upgrade to Tiger, a G5 (from a g4) and move to Logic 8 with PT 4 - THEN my computer would be faster than me again! I would greatly appreciate any comments about working setups with core audio piped back into a 192, including specific hookup info and success stories. For example, would my entire Virtual Inst library (now on DTDM) work using core audio? Does a core audio interface hookup using a card slot? Thanks for all info Greg On Dec 31, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: > I concur. I bailed on DTDM years ago and got a dedicate Core Audio > interface to feed into Pro Tools. I have no regrets whatsoever. > > These days PT and Logic are on completely separate machines, and I've > been using Logic or Cubase for mixing more and more. > > bd > > On Dec 31, 2007, at 4:33 AM, Martin Erskine wrote: > > > I gave up on DTDM a couple of years ago by sending a number of Core > > Audio channels > > into my digital mixer and returning them through channels of Pro > > Tools. Then I turned off > > DTDM in Logic. ALL my DAE/DTDM issues dissapeared PERMANENTLY at > > that time. (And I > > gained more Psuedo-DAE/DTDM I/O's). Lately, I have found myself > > preferring to use only > > Core Audio. I'm finding it actually sounds as good as DAE, if not > > smoother & better. And > > I'm LOVING having everything work! > > > > > > > > > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, "Evan Benjamin" <forums@...> > wrote: > >> > >> Message posted by Evan Benjamin <evanbenjamin@...>: > >> > >> I am having similiar issues. I was told by Apple to upgrade PT to > >> 7.4, > >> and that did not fix anything. I will downgrade to 10.4.9 and see > >> if that helps. > >> A terrible pain though, especially because Apple should know this > >> stuff when I call. > >> > >> -Evan Benjamin > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > __ > > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > > TDM > > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > > search > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

On Monday, December 31, 2007, at 12:07 PM, "Bob DeMaa" <bobdemaa@mac.com> wrote: > I concur. I bailed on DTDM years ago and got a dedicate Core Audio > interface to feed into Pro Tools. I have no regrets whatsoever. And I went even farther and dropped Digi altogether. Now I'm absolutely happy with my Logic-Apogee combo - great sound, rock solid (not a single crash in weeks), great performance... No regrets either. Happy New Year to all! Love, Peace and Music, Andy (Logic Apogee list admin <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-apogee>; )

I appreciate that that works for you, but I do need PT for alot of things. So i'll ask-what do people like for a Core Audio interface? I need 8-16 dig out into PT only-no mic pre, no analog. Does such a thing exist? -Evan Benjamin On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > > On Monday, December 31, 2007, at 12:07 PM, "Bob DeMaa" > <bobdemaa@mac.com> > wrote: > > > I concur. I bailed on DTDM years ago and got a dedicate Core Audio > > interface to feed into Pro Tools. I have no regrets whatsoever. > > And I went even farther and dropped Digi altogether. Now I'm > absolutely > happy with my Logic-Apogee combo - great sound, rock solid (not a > single > crash in weeks), great performance... No regrets either. > > Happy New Year to all! > > Love, Peace and Music, > > Andy > (Logic Apogee list admin > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-apogee>; ) > >

Hi Evan I'm running on Leopard, using LP 8 on a G5 DP 2ghz with 4.5 gigs of RAM, running LP in DAE and CA mode. I have a digi Digital HD192 connected via ADAT into a MOTU Traveller. I've also used an Apogee Ensemble as the CA i/o, and a Yamaha's mLan (i88x/01x). Everything runs fine (except mLan right now that isn't supported on Leopard). I've also had success with LP 8 running in DAE and DTDM (not using CA in this mode though). Happy New Years, Craig On Dec 31, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Evan Benjamin wrote: > I appreciate that that works for you, but I do need PT for alot of > things. So i'll ask-what do people like for a Core Audio interface? I > need 8-16 dig out into PT only-no mic pre, no analog. Does such a > thing exist? > > -Evan Benjamin > On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > > > > > On Monday, December 31, 2007, at 12:07 PM, "Bob DeMaa" > > <bobdemaa@mac.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I concur. I bailed on DTDM years ago and got a dedicate Core Audio > > > interface to feed into Pro Tools. I have no regrets whatsoever. > > > > And I went even farther and dropped Digi altogether. Now I'm > > absolutely > > happy with my Logic-Apogee combo - great sound, rock solid (not a > > single > > crash in weeks), great performance... No regrets either. > > > > Happy New Year to all! > > > > Love, Peace and Music, > > > > Andy > > (Logic Apogee list admin > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-apogee>; )

I'm using a Tascam DM-24, with an IFFW-DM card. I have a 96 I/O, so there's only 8 digital channels I can bus digitally. Any firewire device that works well with Core Audio can be used to bus back into protools with either ADAT or TDIF... I find I am working more and more in Core Audio only. Most of my favorite plug-ins are Core Audio compatible (and screw the ones that that made the bad business decision not to support it), and I repeat, Logic with Core Audio sounds better AND now does ****loads more than Pro Tools. (Love the comping!!!) I mostly use PT for sending tracks back & forth between studio's since it's great for post. But Digidesign remains EONS behind almost any other DAW for creating music. --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, c2 <c2@...> wrote: > > Hi Evan > > I'm running on Leopard, using LP 8 on a G5 DP 2ghz with 4.5 gigs of > RAM, running LP in DAE and CA mode. I have a digi Digital HD192 > connected via ADAT into a MOTU Traveller. I've also used an Apogee > Ensemble as the CA i/o, and a Yamaha's mLan (i88x/01x). Everything > runs fine (except mLan right now that isn't supported on Leopard). > > I've also had success with LP 8 running in DAE and DTDM (not using CA > in this mode though). > > Happy New Years, > > Craig > > On Dec 31, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Evan Benjamin wrote: > > > I appreciate that that works for you, but I do need PT for alot of > > things. So i'll ask-what do people like for a Core Audio interface? I > > need 8-16 dig out into PT only-no mic pre, no analog. Does such a > > thing exist? > > > > -Evan Benjamin > > On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday, December 31, 2007, at 12:07 PM, "Bob DeMaa" > > > <bobdemaa@...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I concur. I bailed on DTDM years ago and got a dedicate Core Audio > > > > interface to feed into Pro Tools. I have no regrets whatsoever. > > > > > > And I went even farther and dropped Digi altogether. Now I'm > > > absolutely > > > happy with my Logic-Apogee combo - great sound, rock solid (not a > > > single > > > crash in weeks), great performance... No regrets either. > > > > > > Happy New Year to all! > > > > > > Love, Peace and Music, > > > > > > Andy > > > (Logic Apogee list admin > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-apogee>; ) >

Thats true, but I need PT because I do alot of film sound design, which really has to get done in PT for many reasons. When I compose, though, I like Logic. I used DTDM successfully up until recently, when something broke, I think as a result of L8 being incompatible with my TDM rig. Logic quits on me as soon as the "Initializing DTDM" message comes up. Anyway, I can't use Core Audio unless I buy a Core Audio interface. And I may do that, but I'm frustrated that this doesn't work, because it's advertised as working, and that means it should work... naive, I know... -Evan On Jan 1, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Martin Erskine wrote: > I'm using a Tascam DM-24, with an IFFW-DM card. > I have a 96 I/O, so there's only 8 digital channels I can bus > digitally. > Any firewire device that works well with Core Audio can be used to > bus back into protools > with either ADAT or TDIF... > I find I am working more and more in Core Audio only. Most of my > favorite plug-ins are > Core Audio compatible (and screw the ones that that made the bad > business decision not > to support it), and I repeat, Logic with Core Audio sounds better > AND now does ****loads > more than Pro Tools. (Love the comping!!!) > I mostly use PT for sending tracks back & forth between studio's > since it's great for post. > But Digidesign remains EONS behind almost any other DAW for > creating music. > > --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, c2 <c2@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Evan > > > > I'm running on Leopard, using LP 8 on a G5 DP 2ghz with 4.5 gigs of > > RAM, running LP in DAE and CA mode. I have a digi Digital HD192 > > connected via ADAT into a MOTU Traveller. I've also used an Apogee > > Ensemble as the CA i/o, and a Yamaha's mLan (i88x/01x). Everything > > runs fine (except mLan right now that isn't supported on Leopard). > > > > I've also had success with LP 8 running in DAE and DTDM (not > using CA > > in this mode though). > > > > Happy New Years, > > > > Craig > > > > On Dec 31, 2007, at 4:43 PM, Evan Benjamin wrote: > > > > > I appreciate that that works for you, but I do need PT for alot of > > > things. So i'll ask-what do people like for a Core Audio > interface? I > > > need 8-16 dig out into PT only-no mic pre, no analog. Does such a > > > thing exist? > > > > > > -Evan Benjamin > > > On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, December 31, 2007, at 12:07 PM, "Bob DeMaa" > > > > <bobdemaa@...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I concur. I bailed on DTDM years ago and got a dedicate > Core Audio > > > > > interface to feed into Pro Tools. I have no regrets > whatsoever. > > > > > > > > And I went even farther and dropped Digi altogether. Now I'm > > > > absolutely > > > > happy with my Logic-Apogee combo - great sound, rock solid > (not a > > > > single > > > > crash in weeks), great performance... No regrets either. > > > > > > > > Happy New Year to all! > > > > > > > > Love, Peace and Music, > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > (Logic Apogee list admin > > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-apogee>; ) > > > > >

Hello there I have an issue with TDM/Logic 8. I can't seem to be able to change/delete the record path. The option can't be found anywhere (L7= audio configuration/edit/remove record path). Plus the fact that like some of you I can't seem to set any channels above 33 on record. It's always asking me to set a record path (wich I do) and it loops on this routine forever. Setting my record tracks below 33 works, but still drops the audio in the same old folder again. How can I remove the record path in logic 8 and set a new one for sure ? Should it be that I worked on the same songs but from another external drive ? Thank you very much. Arnaud By the way Apple hotline is damn useless

Arnaud Giroux <[ mailto:oriax%40oriaxnyc.com ]oriax@oriaxnyc.com> writes: > I have an issue with TDM/Logic 8. > I can't seem to be able to change/delete the record path. File menu > Project Settings > Recording It's exactly where it should have been for the past 13 years. In previous versions of Logic, it was in a way less obvious place (but once you found it, you found it). Users new to Logic8 have no trouble finding it, but old users are used to the illogical old place. I couldn't find it at first, but once I did, I thought "duh, that's so obvious". f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Hi All: NYLPUG Meeting Announcement The next meeting of the New York Logic Pro Users Group will feature guest speaker Alan Rowand from Metric Halo. He promises to show us cool stuff! As you probably know, Metric Halo is the maker of the highly- respected Mobile I/O series of audio interfaces, and the equally respected Spectra-Foo analysis software and Channel Strip plug-ins. You can bet we'll get a look at Metric Halo's new Console Connect technology, which allows Logic users to access the Metric Halo DSP and mixer seamlessly. As usual, Steve Horelick and Jonathan Perl will be there, as will reps from apple's Audio Marketing team, schedule's permitting. Come join the fun!: MONDAY, JANUARY 28th @ Dale Pro Audio 22. W. 19th St. NY NY RSVPs: jonathan@nylpug.com Attendance is, as always, FREE. An Apple Authorized Training Center

Hi All: NYLPUG Meeting Announcement (note 6 PM start time - omitted in first message) The next meeting of the New York Logic Pro Users Group will feature guest speaker Alan Rowand from Metric Halo. He promises to show us cool stuff! As you probably know, Metric Halo is the maker of the highly- respected Mobile I/O series of audio interfaces, and the equally respected Spectra-Foo analysis software and Channel Strip plug-ins. You can bet we'll get a look at Metric Halo's new Console Connect technology, which allows Logic users to access the Metric Halo DSP and mixer seamlessly. As usual, Steve Horelick and Jonathan Perl will be there, as will reps from apple's Audio Marketing team, schedule's permitting. Come join the fun!: MONDAY, JANUARY 28th 6 PM - 7:30 PM @ Dale Pro Audio 22. W. 19th St. NY NY RSVP: jonathan@nylpug.com Website: www.nylpug.com An Apple Authorized Training Center

Thanks. Arnaud

Hi there, I've just upgraded to logic 8 and having a couple of issues with groups. I have grouped 5 tracks of multiple drum takes on DAE channels with region selection enabled for comping, but when I select regions in tracks 1 and 2, nothing happens (as if the were not edit grouped) if I select regions in tracks 3,4 5, it works fine (except nothing happens to tracks 1 and 2). So its as if channels 1,2 arent grouped and 3,4, 5 are... although all of them are grouped to 1:drums My first reaction to this was reset the group by un/regrouping, but when I selected a new group in the environment... channel strips for tracks 3 and 5 simply disappeared!!! This keeps happening. is this a song error, a bug, or a very messed up logic 8?? I dont know what to do!! Everything else seems to be working fine. If anyone could shed some light on this, that would be great! Thanks in advance. ________________________ G5 PPC Dual 2.7 GHz 4.5 GB RAM OSX 10.4.11 Logic 8.0.1 PT 7.4

Was wondering if anyone else is having this problem. TDM tracks are fine, but DTDM tracks just don't work. Here's my config: PT 7.4cs2 HD Accel Logic 8.01 G4 dual 1.25 MDD 10.4.11 Anyone get this working with similar config? Thanks

What resolution are you running at? My g4 dual/logic 7/PT Mix?panther system won¹t function at any resolution other than 44.1k, I suspect its the machine, anyone else? --

There are times where we're trying to cut audio files (take folders) and Logic crashes. We alone on this? Is there anyway to disable take folders? I would be glad to go back to the old way until they fix the bugs. It's almost been un-usable. Mark Marshall doghousenyc.com

Hello, is anyone finding take management with stereo files perplexing in Logic 8? Tips? We're having a problem also where you cut take folders the regions get moved?!?! Mark Marshall doghousenyc.com

Are you running version 8.0.1? On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Mark Marshall wrote: > Hello, is anyone finding take management with stereo files perplexing > in Logic 8? Tips? We're having a problem also where you cut take > folders the regions get moved?!?! > > Mark Marshall > doghousenyc.com

Hi Bob, Yes. We're running 8.0.1 Mark Marshall doghousenyc.com On Jan 14, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: > Are you running version 8.0.1? > > On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Mark Marshall wrote: > > > Hello, is anyone finding take management with stereo files > perplexing > > in Logic 8? Tips? We're having a problem also where you cut take > > folders the regions get moved?!?! > > > > Mark Marshall > > doghousenyc.com

I suggest you unpack the takes folder before cutting if you're having problems with it. It's a PIA but you can get everything out of the folder. I've seen others flatten the performance immediately after they track it too. Try unpacking the takes folder before editing. and use a new track for assembling comps. If there are a lot of edits, you could repack them into a traditional folder, which is what I do for drums, and vocals typically anyway. You can upack the takes folder by clicking on the take menu... Then select all the regions, go to the region menu: folder: Pack Folder. You may not need to do this, but I find it helpful to get 12 takes out of the main arrangement window. bd On Jan 14, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Mark Marshall wrote: > > Hi Bob, Yes. We're running 8.0.1 > > Mark Marshall > doghousenyc.com > > > > On Jan 14, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: > >> Are you running version 8.0.1? >> >> On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Mark Marshall wrote: >> >>> Hello, is anyone finding take management with stereo files >> perplexing >>> in Logic 8? Tips? We're having a problem also where you cut take >>> folders the regions get moved?!?! >>> >>> Mark Marshall >>> doghousenyc.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Logic TDM Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/L- > TDM > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email logic-tdm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/L-TDM/ > search > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Yeah, I've been starting to do that. Kind of a bummer. Now I have to go through on more step than I used to. I'm having problems with take folders on my Macbook as well:-( The concept is great, but there's a lot of flaws. I hate not being able to delete takes from the take folder or move/nudge certain takes around.. If it was working I could deal tho.. Mark Marshall doghousenyc.com On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Bob DeMaa wrote: > I suggest you unpack the takes folder before cutting if you're having > problems with it. It's a PIA but you can get everything out of the > folder. I've seen others flatten the performance immediately after > they track it too. > > Try unpacking the takes folder before editing. and use a new track > for assembling comps. If there are a lot of edits, you could repack > them into a traditional folder, which is what I do for drums, and > vocals typically anyway. > > You can upack the takes folder by clicking on the take menu... Then > select all the regions, go to the region menu: folder: Pack Folder. > You may not need to do this, but I find it helpful to get 12 takes > out of the main arrangement window. > > bd

Using 44.1k. I would love to hear if anyone with a similar config is running to give me hope. 8.01, 7.4cs2, 10.4.11, HD Accel, G4 dual 1.25 MDD. Thanks --- In logic-tdm@yahoogroups.com, skylabfilmpop <skylabfilmpop@...> wrote: > > What resolution are you running at? My g4 dual/logic 7/PT Mix?panther > system won¹t function at any resolution other than 44.1k, I suspect its the > machine, anyone else?

I haven't visited this in a long while and am having little luck perhaps someone can help. I wuld like to employ Groove templates to tighten drum programming a rex2 loop or two rex2 files to each other. I am using Logic & with a Mix system, OS10.34 and Recycle 2.1. Any Help? Thanks!

Hi Greg.Are you the Greg Whelchel I had the pleasure of playing guitar with in LA in 1978 with Yusuf Rahman? deancholakis@yahoo.com

My DAE 2 buss has disappeared from my arrange and Mix windows in my autoload. Anyone Know how to get this back? Also what is the benefit ow using Link or Contents Link in the MIX window? I would like the mixer to follow the arrange page and not display any extraneous midi tracks or others